Choosing a dishwasher

Girls, about the finish, that the tablets, that the powder - some types of dishes have become rough, with stripes inside. Not everything washes away. Accidentally, on an unprecedented acacia in the metro, I bought tablets in a soluble Fairy shell, something really cheap came out, made in Italy - this is a super tool !!!! All dishes glisten again))). They don't smell that strong for me, but I don't always smell them, so I'm not an indicator.

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Hello everyone! I don’t know what prompted me to try the dishes after the PMM
It is bitter. I use finish tablets, tape or paclan powder. Finish salt and rinse aid. I take out the dishes from the PMM and rinse them under the tap. But, something I do not like this process
As far as I understand, this mouthwash is bitter ...
How do I fix the problem? Has anyone come across this

[lira3003]

lira3003, your message made me lick my plates, which I recently took out from the PMM. Finish tablets and rinse aid. Virgin purity. No bitterness, neutral taste. Is it on different programs?

[Mirtochka]

Mirtochka, I have so far only a short 29 minutes and an average 2.40 experienced. There were few dishes there. But, after 2.40 I started the program on 29 Without powder tablet. The result is the same

[lira3003]

lira3003, maybe a rinse aid?

[Olga]

Olga, also suspected him. But how do you get rid of the bitterness? Dilute with water?

[lira3003]

lira3003, I don't know, try diluting it, you can try to suck it off with a syringe or syringe. Or just wait until it's over.

[Mirtochka]

Mirtochka, I have so far only a short 29 minutes and an average 2.40 experienced. There were few dishes there. But, after 2.40 I started the program on 29 Without powder tablet. The result is the same

The rinse aid in the car will run out - pour vinegar. Many people use it as a rinse aid.
I also have Finish rinse, I just licked the plates - there is no bitterness on them.
Another option - maybe you came across "left" products under the Finish brand?
Or, pardon the intimate assumption, with some health problems, you can feel the bitterness on everything.

[lira3003]

lira3003, Rita, hello!

I suggest checking the Rinse Aid Delivery Settings. Either a minimum, or completely disable it, depending on the capabilities of your PMM settings.
Further ... if you run a very short program, then use only powder and a minimum amount, because for this chemistry you have to both dissolve and rinse off the dishes.
The tablets will not be in time for sure.
Once I ran for a short time with a pill, so the rest of the pill lay undissolved in the pocket.

Good luck!

[Chamomile]

Chamomile, Olya, I added water.
Taia, Taya

I also have Finish rinse, I just licked the plates - there is no bitterness on them.

It's good!

can you come across "left" products under the Finish brand?

I don't know, I took it to the Metro.

some health problems - bitterness is felt in everything.

After manual rinsing, I don't feel bitterness.
Tanya-Fanya, Tanya, hi! Listen, I'll try to adjust. But you need to find instructions

[lira3003]

lira3003, all briskly rushed to lick the dishes .. it seems to me that maybe you have something with water? It's just that after hand washing it is impossible to get rid of the detergent to the end, but then it completely washes out .. and the rinse aid is not designed for 100 washes, I mean one fill, can it be thrown into the water ??

[zvezda]

all briskly rushed to lick the dishes ..

zvezda, Olya, made me laugh !!! But seriously, I reconfigured the machine, added water to the compartment with the rinse aid. Now, even after a short program with a small amount of powder, the dishes are clean and dry! And not bitter

what can be released into the water ??

history is silent about this ...

Olya, made me laugh!

Yes, I’m like that, but what, I’ve licked myself through your fault and plastic, iron and wood, for 10 years, I’m definitely not going to lick anything else

plastic and iron and wood licked,

So, plastic and even iron is still understandable ... but wood ??? what wooden things were washed in the PMM? I sometimes wash my knives, but I don’t feel sorry for them, I still want to exchange them for Victorinox.

10 years - I won't lick anything else

... but wood?

And I wash everything from the balcony, so I SPECIALLY washed the crush, and even now, well, to consolidate the effect, I licked the clay pot, no, delicious ..

[Olya]

well, to consolidate the effect, I licked a clay pot, no, delicious ..

Olya, I beg you, stop sprinkling the dishes after PMM. Calm down, it's clean !!!

Okay .. I'll go to sleep having licked

I always have a wooden meat board in my pm. It is cleaner for me from there. Nothing is done to her.

[Chamomile]

Chamomile, Olga, I also have a meat wooden one. After several washings, it began to diverge a little at the seams. Now I bought a silicone one, the PMM cannot harm her.

[lira3003]

lira3003 - Rituyla!

So your problem turned out to be in setting up the rinse aid after all?

No, no, no. This is not a guide to action at all, but simply a belated cry of despair.

There was a dishwasher. Good.
And so that I do not shove into it, starting from expensive products and ending with cheap ones, everything is not so: everything is muddy, then the smell is not the same, then it is disgusting to take it into your hands.
Mlyn Mlinsky, that's worn out right. Like a suitcase without handles was my dishwasher, when it's a pity to throw it away, and it's hard to carry.
Broke down. Hurrah! There was not even any attempt to fix it. Nafik!
The new PM from the Finish droplet is heated so that it is pleasant to take it in your hands after washing in 30 minutes.

[Tanya-Fanya]

So your problem turned out to be in setting up the rinse aid after all?

Tanya-Fanya, Tanya so it turns out that yes.
I bought Finish salt and rinse aid, before that there were others. There are also Finish tablets.
Probably my car did not expect



Rituslya, Rita, with a new assistant! Let this one work for joy !!!

ALL THREE!
Those who know, tell me, is it possible to replace the rinse aid with something at hand?
in nearby shops it is not on sale, but the dishes must be washed and preferably of high quality

[Mirabel]

Mirabel, lemon acid?

Mirabel, citric acid?

PMM rinse aid missing in Belgium? And the delivery service isn't working?

[Kapet]

Kapetmaybe I got it wrong. I use citric acid diluted with water instead of dishwasher rinse aid.

[liberiam]

liberiamAs a temporary short term replacement, or prevention, acid and vinegar will do. But permanently ...? There, inside the PMM, there are details that they don't like very much ... It's your business, but I wouldn't risk using it often ...

The internet is full of information where people are trying to save money on industrially produced means for PMM. For example this:
3 tablespoons of hydrogen peroxide and 20-30 drops of any essential oil have a cleansing effect and can replace a commercially available rinse aid. They must be mixed in 100 ml of water and added to the conditioner compartment. A portion of the product is enough for two washes.

I am skeptical about these ways of saving, but everyone is his own master-master ...

There, inside the PMM, there are details that they don't really like ...

and which ones?
I have been using it for over 6 years all the time.

[Constantin]

Constantin, in my opinion, I did not write about savings, especially about the fact that these funds have disappeared throughout Europe.
We are talking about several days, maximum a week



liberiam, Thank you!
And approximately in what concentration do you use lemon?

Girls, I have a beekeeping inventory in the PMM, just my food, soda, on a quick program, and I never used salt and rinses at all, I don't have them as a class. Only lemon (1 teaspoon without top), when there is a lot of glass, I throw it into the rinse by hand. The water in my village is not ice, a kettle with limescale, this is not St. Petersburg with soft water, but there are no stains and plaque. And my powder is Amveevsky and I don't use anything else

and I never used salt and rinses at all, I don't have them, as a class ... The water in my village is not ice, a kettle with limescale, this is not Peter with soft water

No, here everyone is his own conductor, of course ... But salt, which you do not have as a class, is just used in PMM for the purpose of softening water in an ion exchanger. That is, the logic of refusing salt comes into conflict with common sense and the recommendations of PMM manufacturers. I do not recommend anyone to take this as a guide to action ...

[Mirabel]

liberiam, thanks!
And approximately in what concentration do you use lemon?

Mirabel, a couple of tablespoons per 200 ml of water.

I don’t insist on anything, this is my choice, hmm, in my village it is 5 years, in the city, there is soft water for 10 years, but there I don’t pour lemon juice

Vika, for many years I have been pouring vinegar into the rinse aid compartment, in the beginning it was apple cider, now it is usual.

[Zoya]

Zoya, super! but the water, in my opinion, in your area is soft. The water is terribly hard here!

Here, girls, an illustration of my Fairy drop to the herd on the car door.

I usually add just before washing, so that it is involved in a pre-rinse, and then it is washed / drained by the machine down the drain. But in this case, I needed to rinse the dishes (by the way, for a long time there was an argument about the demand for this program))). This dish will stand until evening (until I come home from work). I don't want it to dry and sour there, I turn on rinsing (this is rinsing, not a quick wash) and the dishes will be soaked until the evening, because the machine will be closed. The bottle is filled with Faerie from a large five-liter canister (Fairey professional from Metro). One press of the dispenser and that's how much it flops on the door. I closed it, waited for the filling and when it starts to water, and now I opened it to show how much foam. Which doesn't exist at all. Somehow like this...

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We have terrible water, hard, but for me the biggest plus of vinegar is that there is no knocking smell of rinse off my feet.

but for me, the biggest plus of vinegar is that there is no knocking smell of rinse off my feet.

Where do you get those stunning-smelling conditioners? Probably using the finishes, yes somata? Well, this is originally - poisonous poison, it never happens ...
We have Frosch, Sodasan, L'ARBRE VERT, DeLaMark - everything smells great. After the Russian tablets BIOMIO "BIO-Total" there is also a good smell - light eucalyptus, unobtrusive, quickly evaporating ...

[Zoya]

Zoya, Yes! vinegar will probably be good then
but my usual mouthwash doesn't smell at all. love Frosch and Ecover

[Nata]

Natadon't you hiccup? I remember every day with a kind word. Thanks, Cool!

[Natasha]

Nata, don't you hiccup? I remember every day with a kind word.

Natasha, and my husband and I !!!

And now, when there is an infirmary in the house, I drip Domestos to disinfect dishes and cutlery from the bacilli.

Well you remember in an amicable way, so you don't hiccup!))

In the Metro recently there was again a promotion for Fairy capsules, again grabbed. We are tortured here with our ferruginous and lime-rich water. All the taps are in lime, all the showers (both the door and the walls) are in lime ... Some kind of nightmare ...

I have a Finish mouthwash and there is no milking smell. It seems to me that there is no need to argue on this topic, everyone has different water and machines ... and the chemistry manufacturers themselves are different.

We are tortured here with our ferruginous and lime-rich water.

Dissolved iron filters and column-type water softeners with backfill will solve your problems.
We, too, suffered for a long time with iron water, until we spat on all this and forked out for a normal cleaning. For ten years now, they have forgotten what hard rusty water is. All plumbing is clean and white. What I wish you too ...

I have Finish mouthwash and no milking odor

I also use the finish or somat. I don't smell any special smell.

[Scarecrow]

For many years I have been pouring vinegar into the rinse aid compartment, in the beginning it was apple cider, now it is usual.

I don’t understand what kind of compartment? I have a compartment for the pills, and at the bottom for the salt. Or have I forgotten what's what?
Scarecrow, and Fairey where to drip? Straight to the door?
I also have different pills and Somat and Finish and other brands - the dishes do not smell.

[Kapet]

Kapet,

This is the same horror what hemorrhoids, yyyy .... With this water treatment. I saw this nipple cleaning system from a neighbor. And service, oooh ....



julia_bb,

Yes.

This is the same horror what hemorrhoids, yyyy .... With this water treatment. I saw this nipple cleaning system from a neighbor. And service, oooh ....

this is the killer. I had this. Stoke ditch ditched. I wrote it out, built it .. I won't wish more to the enemy

Waxing all this rubbish.

I have a narrow Beko, on the door there are two compartments - one for powder, the other for rinse aid, is rinse aid poured somewhere?