Svetlenki
Lelka, don’t weary! HP did not miss the link
OlgaGera
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exile did not miss
exactly..
there are 2 liters and the price was below 100 rubles. these are the blue canisters
Choosing a dishwasher
zvezda
Quote: OlgaGera
there are 2 liters and the price was below 100 r
This is where this cut off ??
I don’t remember who, but to this good person, THANK YOU VERY MUCH for the recommendation and reminder of the pill on the grill! A completely different result !!
OlgaGera
Quote: zvezda
This is where this cut off ??
in our wilderness)) in some kind of store. I don't remember. I liked the canister)))
Svetlenki
in your wilderness prices are not at all Moscow. But it should be so, of course! Thanks for the tip
OlgaGera
Quote: Svetlenki
prices are not at all Moscow
differently.
It is possible that the first swallow, and the manufacturer of Ryazan. They scattered them around the region for trial.





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tip
separately written)))
I looked at the manufacturer. The prices are humane. You need to take something else to wash or liquid soap. I erase them quickly.
zvezda
I found it in Fix Price!
🔗
kseniya D
Girls, a question for those who live in private houses and have a septic tank (such as Topaz). We moved into a house (a dream come true). When installing the septic tank, I asked the engineer uncle how often and what can be used for the dishwasher and washing machine. He said that by the usual means, but without fanaticism. I can't do it without him. I lived without an oven for a year and that's why I got it right now, I bake something all the time, I cook, as if there are not three of us, but at least a dozen of us, so a full-size car starts up once, or even twice a day. Because of this, I am afraid of bacteria in the septic tank, as if not to ruin them. I bought BIO MIO tablets, but damn it, the price is finally not humane. There are faerie capsules, but I'm afraid. What means do you use? I liked BIO MIO in terms of the quality of washing, I read in the reviews that people saw the tablets in half and they do their job just as well. I haven't tried it yet. Maybe someone has experience?
At the same time, I'll ask about washing powders. Do you need to switch to some kind of bio or can you still use the usual ones?
kseniya D
I answer to myself, but maybe someone will need information. Tested the BIO MYO tablet split in half in business. Did an excellent job. A full load of a full-size machine, including Keshina's bowl of dough and a pot of porridge, everything was cleaned perfectly!
Svetlenki
kseniya D, Ksenia, hmm ... Interesting ... Or maybe even then try to put half a pill ... It's a thought ...

Listen, what are you taking pills with? I once tried to cut a somat gold tablet with a knife - even nothing came of it
OlgaGera
Quote: kseniya D
halved pill
I thought that everyone does it))) After a whole pill, the dishes have a smell to me. Yes, I'm a sniffer. So I divide the pills in half.

Quote: Svetlenki
what do you take pills with?
husband. He better knows
kseniya D
I saw with a knife, and neatly cut the film from below with scissors, placing a small bag under this case, so that I would not lose a single crumb like a grill.




Quote: OlgaGera
I thought that everyone does it)))
Nope, not all)))). I used Faery capsules in the apartment. Here they are smelly unreal !!! but also wash for 5+.
Scarecrow
Svetlenki,

With a file knife.
OlgaGera
Quote: kseniya D
Here they are smelly unreal
no no, ok!
The smelly ones that have two colors, those yeah ... brrrr. And where are the three colors of the norm
irisska
I also divide the pills in half. They wash perfectly in half, especially if 70 *.
The husband puts the pill in his palm and grunts at it with the blunt side of a large knife, like a hatchet. She cracks. Directly in the package, in a bag.Some are straight with their hands, but these are just a few.
zvezda
Sveta, I'm screaming about half pills from the first day !! I have never used a whole pill! And 40 and 60cm .. car!
I saw with a bread knife or a large chef's knife on a thick wooden board, I directly press and burn ...
Svetlenki
Do not consider it boring, but this is how I saw Somat Gold

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I somehow cut this pill on the rib, and the central "pimpa" is not cut at all. I'm armless, right? Switch to liquid-gels for PMM and not take a steam bath?

Quote: zvezda
I'm screaming about half pills from the first day

I haven't read that since the first day
zvezda
Yes, what a treasure, the main thing is that I cut the pill, though my knife is more powerful than yours ..
Here, I have it and so ..
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Svetlenki
Olya, do you cut or cut? Whack or whack-whack?
OlgaGera
Quote: Svetlenki
and the central "pimp" is not sawed at all.
that's why I don't buy with pimps.




Quote: Svetlenki
Whack or whack-whack?
more sound design is needed))))
caprice23
Quote: Svetlenki
Switch to liquid-gels for PMM and not take a steam bath?
Light, and what does powder do not suit you?
Svetlenki
caprice23, Natasha, consistency. At the risk of spilling, scattering, getting in the wrong place ... I have a better relationship with gels. The tablets are generally superb, of course, but sometimes they have to be cut, and they don't want to be cut Damn, Russian women. I can imagine the eyes of English housewives when they were offered to drink pills for the sake of economy
Wiki
I gave up pills precisely for this reason, I do not want to cut anything. I just use the powder, pour it in and order. Even if something got past the compartment, on the door, well, so figs with him. What's wrong with that?
caprice23
I just think, if we saw a tablet, do we break the sequence of dissolution of the colored layers? Someone is responsible for the quality of washing, some for rinsing ...
Previously, I also sawed tablets, and then spat and began to separately buy powder, salt and rinse aid. Everything suits me. I don't see any difference in the quality of washing, but the savings are significant))
But to each his own course.




Quote: Wiki
Even if something got past the compartment, on the door, well, so figs with him. What's wrong with that?
Svetlenki
Quote: caprice23
if we saw a tablet, do we break the sequence of dissolution of the colored layers? Someone is responsible for the quality of washing, some for rinsing ...

So the same thing occurred to me. After all, this "pimpa" is in the middle, as it were, pressed from above ... But I didn't saw it ...

Okay, of course, I will use the available tablets now and give a chance to the "powder-rinse" tandem. Although my sister snorts - it takes a long time for her to charge the car like that.





And, well, no one canceled the fairies' washing. I found and eliminated the cause of foaming. Normul is an ordinary faerie working. If the dishes are not very dirty, everything is fine.

Quote: OlgaGera
more sound design is needed))))

Lelka, I'm afraid if our forum also makes sounds, my husband will generally howl
Wiki
Quote: Svetlenki
Although my sister snorts - it takes a long time for her to charge the car like that.
I charge the rinse aid every 20-30 days. Powder every time, of course, but it's a matter of a minute, he poured a spoon and that's it. We charge the washing machine every time and nothing.
zvezda
I already have pills, what am I, throw them out ??
Quote: caprice23
if we saw a tablet, do we break the sequence of dissolution of the colored layers?
We do not break! We cut vertically, not horizontally, just reduce the number and that's it! I like the powder less than the pill, but on the basket in the special. "handbag-basket", and from in the door - the powder is better.
Here on those. I talked to the forum about the PMM, so they sent me a video to see what was happening in the car and something else, so guys, experts, they say that you need to pour salt on any!
I always have salt and rinse aid!
Scarecrow
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And, well, no one canceled the fairies' washing. I found and eliminated the cause of foaming. Normul is an ordinary faerie working. If the dishes are not very dirty, everything is fine.


And what about the Fae? It is used at the stage of rinsing, not washing. It's about the main sink, where powder and tablets are used. Or why didn't I understand again?))

In my personal opinion, cutting a pill in the presence of powders makes very little sense. And about the problem of charging the car ... Light, sawing longer than pouring half a spoon of funds)). I don't understand what's the difference: charge a tablet or a powder ?? The same set of movements. Anything you wake up by will be washed off during the pre-rinse. Another thing is that I have water that has not "accepted" any powder. I have come to use only Fairy capsules, which still do not saw themselves)).
OgneLo
If the tablets are washed poorly, there are unsuccessful tablets for some brands, then use them optimally by dropping a small drop of Fairy on that tablet ...
Wiki
Quote: zvezda
I already have pills, what am I, throw them out ??
Your pills - you have the right to do with them what you want, without asking anyone
zvezda
Quote: Wiki
do with them what you want
I did not understand ... why throw out that, what am I ?, ku-ku, chtol
Wiki
Well, then don't throw it away. What did you ask then?
caprice23
There is absolutely not a lot of light, movement and hassle with the use of powder. As well as laying a pill. Only then pour a spoonful of powder. Salt, depending on the hardness of the water, once a month, once every two months. Rinse aid, depending on the settings, once every two weeks - once a month, and maybe even less often. And then only with each wash you pour in the powder and that's it. The only thing that you have to tinker with first is the amount of rinse aid and water hardness. I didn't immediately become friends with the rinse aid. I had to play with the settings, decrease and increase the flow rate, until I came to a result acceptable to me.

Svetlenki
Quote: Scarecrow
And what about the Fae? It is used at the stage of rinsing, not washing.

Scarecrow, Nata, in what sense at the stage? You mean the Rinse program? I'm not picking on words, I just want to understand. Apparently, I did not read well how to use fairies. Do you need to set the Rinsing program? I always screw up the main

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There is absolutely not a lot of light, movement and hassle with the use of powder.

Okay, I persuaded, now I'm using my strategic stock of pills. I immediately grabbed 300 pieces for the action. In the meantime, I will study the instructions for setting the amount of rinse aid and salt. It has something set up there, but you need to double-check for correctness.
caprice23
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Scarecrow, Nata, in what sense at the stage? You mean the Rinse program?
May I answer. When starting any program, first the dishes are rinsed without detergents (such as soaking), then there is a main wash, respectively, with detergent, and then rinsing with rinse aid. And here Fairey will just work for you at the very first stage of washing, remove excess fat from the dishes, etc.
There is no need to set the rinse program separately before washing. Although if you really want to, then you can).
VolzhankaD
For some time I split the pills, here Somat, yes, this "pimp" in the middle does not prick, it looks like salt pills (my daughter brought me from the medical center, they experimented). Now I thought, I have a full-size tablet, and it is designed for this. And in general Frau Schmidt in a soluble shell, it is inconvenient to divide. I twice added salt to the machine, and then washed off the whitish coating from the dishes - there is clear water in the city, although the pipes burst all the time.
zvezda
Look, here it is enough to remember the school curriculum to understand.

Scarecrow
Svetlenki,

No, you don't need to install a separate program on purpose. But any washing program starts with a pre-rinse. At this moment, the compartment with the detergent, where you charged what you use there (I also have fairies, but capsules for PMM) are completely closed, and a drop of fairies, which is just on dishes or a door in the open, is washed off with water and rinsed with utensils.Then this water is drained into the sewer and a new portion of water is collected for the main wash. Then the main compartment opens and the tablet / powder / gel falls out. Full washing begins, the main wash. Am I writing clearly? That is, in fact, with liquid faerie, your dishes are simply rinsed before the main wash. The greasiest dirt is washed off better and the main wash goes better, because the dishes are cleaner and less greasy. But in the main sink, the liquid faerie is no longer there, it has flowed down the drain. Then this water is also drained and new water is collected for rinsing with rinse aid. Almost all automatic programs have this washing algorithm. That is, if you dropped the faeries into the car and did not put anything else from the detergents (in the detergent compartment), your car in the main sink will wash the dishes with just warm water. Without everything. The fairies have already sailed away, and there is nothing else. Only if you add liquid faerie to the main compartment - then yes. The compartment will open just into the main sink and, as it were, add a new portion of liquid faerie. But I haven't tried it that way. In this case, by the way, there may be more foam, because the dishes are already cleaner and the product will bind and react less, and foam more.

optimist
Scarecrow, I also got hooked on faerie pills, I really like the result of washing.
But after reading it, I don't even understand. I throw a pill right into the camera before turning on the machine. So, does she, the tablet dissolve during the preliminary wash and drain into the sewer? then the main wash goes without a tablet?
Scarecrow
optimist,

In theory, yes)). It may not completely dissolve, of course, because the water is cold and dissolution is poor (besides, the preliminary rinse passes quickly), but you flush a significant part of the detergent down the drain. Run the program and listen to the algorithm of your machine. Everything will fall into place.

I even recommend putting a lemon into the car 20 minutes after the start of the program. Precisely because if right away - it will be washed off by rinsing with cold water and no cleaning will work.
caprice23
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I even recommend putting a lemon into the car 20 minutes after the start of the program.
And here is more detailed. Why lemon?
optimist
In general, I thought that the compartment was intended only for powder, I will now put a pill there.
OlgaGera
Quote: caprice23
Why lemon?
to clean the machine from scale.





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compartment is intended
for detergents
Wiki
Quote: zvezda
Look, here it is enough to remember the school curriculum to understand.
I watched a video, with a tablet that needs to be put on the bottom because of the additional 2-3 minutes, which supposedly contribute to its dissolution in my opinion.
2-3 minutes will not add or subtract anything, just if the tablet lies on the bottom, it flops all the time in the water (if you open the car during washing, you can see that the bottom is covered with water), and when it flies out of the compartment, it can be both in the basket and on the dishes. Because of this, it does not dissolve.
Svetlenki
Quote: OlgaGera
to clean the machine from scale

All the same, I need to go get it and read the instructions





Quote: Wiki
Watched the video

By the way, how much do you agree with their advice to put plastic containers in the lower basket? It seemed to me that the plastic is better in the upper wash, since there is a more gentle wash .. Or am I mistaken?
OlgaGera
Quote: Svetlenki
you need to go get it and read the instructions
Gold words
Tanya-Fanya
Quote: Svetlenki
All the same, I need to go get it and read the instructions
What? Haven't read it yet? You promised me this a couple of pages ago
zvezda
Quote: Svetlenki
it seemed to me that plastic is better at the top to wash,
Me too...
Wiki, I meant salt
Wiki
What about salt? I'm talking about the video - they talked about these 2-3 minutes.
caprice23
Quote: Svetlenki
By the way, how much do you agree with their advice to put plastic containers in the lower basket? It seemed to me that the plastic is better in the upper wash, since there is a more gentle wash .. Or am I mistaken?
I wash the plastic just at the top. I agree that there is a more gentle washing.

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