I choose a harvester, blender, processor

[Elena]

Elena, there was already, it seems, I looked and was touched, the crash test of planetary mixers:

This is marshmallow, sausage and bread (usually rye).
And you, what are you doing yours?

Minced sausage and rye dough is still hard to mix, but here it all depends on the amount of minced meat / dough.
I have a harvester, not just a mixer, so I use it comprehensively. It is in the bowl that I make biscuit dough, muffin, I can knead a small amount of yeast dough (for 250-300 g of flour), sometimes I twist the meat directly into the bowl with a meat grinder and then in it I make minced meat for cutlets with hooks (maximum 500 g of meat, a larger quantity I don `t need it). Well, the vegetable cutter works at full capacity in the summer.

Bosh Mum 4

caption to the video "Kneading yeast dough from 500 g flour takes about 3 minutes":

The hook is turned on either at I or II speed.

In my Bosh Mum 4655, I knead the dough for bread from 500 ml of water and 800 g of flour, which I bake in a Redmond 380 fast maker on the bread program (without turning it, it's easier for me). The dough is kneaded perfectly.
In the photo, the remains of bread (crispy crust - bottom)


I also knead the dough for cake from 1 kg of flour

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[Marina ま り な]

Marina ま り な, well, he does not knead the dough for 3 minutes. This is where editing takes place. The dough must be kneaded for at least 10 minutes.

[Anchic]

Anchic, this is the text from the caption under the video, I did not measure the time, but quickly enough. Moreover, in parallel, you are doing something else ...

The dough must be kneaded for at least 10 minutes.

And the bread maker generally does not sausage the dough for less than 30 minutes. Therefore, 3 minutes in the combine is nothing, and even 10 minutes is not enough. All these videos are solid advertising, you have to believe wisely.

[Marina ま り な]

Marina ま り な, I just have a big Bosch. And the dough has not been kneaded at all in three minutes.

And the bread maker generally does not sausage the dough for less than 30 minutes

Panasonic, like, kneads for 20 minutes. At least in dumplings mode for exactly 20 minutes.

I think there is a misunderstanding in terms. Yes, the dough will be kneaded with hooks in 3 minutes, that is, it will be gathered into a bun. But we do not just need to knead the dough, we need to knead it for the development of gluten, and this is precisely what is achieved by long-term operation of the hook. But for such a long work I didn't really like the hook, the dough winds up and creeps up, only the lower part is kneaded, the combine must be stopped periodically and the dough removed from the hook. In terms of kneading, HP or dough mixer drives, where the mixer is from below.
IMHO

Panasonic, like, kneads for 20 minutes. At least in dumplings mode for exactly 20 minutes.

I have Moulinex, dough mode 30 min. kneads and proofing hour. Pelmeni is not a yeast dough, there is also 10 minutes. that's enough.

Minced sausage and rye dough is still hard to mix, but here it all depends on the amount of minced meat / dough.

The amount is small, I will hardly do more than kg. Me and the bowl is not more than 4 liters, ideally.

Girls, is power important to the planetary?

Looked more closely, there is no K-attachment in Boch, is it? Her sausage is interfered with, in my opinion?
If anything, I'm still a sausage-theoretician

the bread maker generally does not sausage the dough for less than 30 minutes

in a bread machine, the "kneader", as well as the "working area in which direct mixing occurs", is not comparable with similar areas in the combine and, moreover, in the planetary mixer. Accordingly, kneading the same dough from the same ingredients in such structurally different units requires different times.
The fastest way to knead the dough with knives is in the mixer bowl, and slowest in the bread maker's bucket with a bread mixer.

Her sausage is interfered with, in my opinion?

In Boche they interfere with a hook

The fastest way to knead the dough with knives is in the mixer bowl, and slowest in the bread maker's bucket with a bread mixer.

Marina, I wrote above about kneading and kneading. For yeast dough, kneading is most important.

But we do not just need to knead the dough, we need to knead it for the development of gluten, and this is precisely what is achieved by long-term operation of the hook.

to stay 40 minutes in the refrigerator at + 10 ° С is enough for this, without any hook ...

Looked more closely, there is no K-attachment in Boch, is it?

There is definitely no series 4 in Boch, later series should be looked at the possibility of completing additionally.

to stay 40 minutes in the refrigerator at + 10 ° С is enough for this, without any hook ...

Marina, I will not enter into polemics about the test, there are a lot of topics about this on the forum. But this is not at all, not at all equivalent !!!

I will also listen, because we need a budget stationary unit for whipping proteins, cream, marshmallows and so that the whisk does not melt if hot syrup is poured into the proteins.

For yeast dough, kneading is most important.

by the time the bun has climbed onto the hook, the dough is completely kneaded. Next, we send the kolobok to the refrigerator, and then, slightly warm it at room temperature and then according to the technology for preparing a specific product.
In any case, it was like that in MUM, and in the old GDR mixer, it was the same (there were two hooks and the bowl was rotating).

so that the corollas do not melt if hot syrup is poured into the proteins.

How can metal beaters melt ???

There are units where plastic attachments are included for whipping. That's why I'm looking for a new one, so that there are metal ones.

[Anastasia]

Anastasia, I have never seen, honestly. But maybe there is still heat-resistant plastic?

No, now I will only take a metal bowl with metal ones, so that it does not bend / deform from the hot whipped. On the old Brown, the plastic whisk was bent from under-whipped, semi-liquid marshmallows.

[Anastasia]

Anastasia, can I take a hand mixer with a bowl? Like this:

[Anchic]

Anchic, Anna, for some reason, planetary type mixers evoke more sympathy. But it is terribly difficult to choose when I did not use either planetary or such manual ones, specifically as in the picture. The agony of choice.

[Anastasia]

AnastasiaBy the way, "yes", a mixer of this type, for the needs described by you, is very convenient. Its hooks for kneading minced meat are ideal.

[Tricia]

Tricia, but how do you like this - Kitfort KT-1343? I am reading a review about him now.
Although, if only for marshmallows, then it's probably too much.

Can you post hyperlinks with reviews?

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The only thing I don't like about it is the price. Goes beyond what I want.

[Tricia]

Tricia, but how do you like this - Kitfort KT-1343? I am reading a review about him now.
Can you post hyperlinks with reviews?

The only thing I don't like about it is the price. Goes beyond what I want.

But is this characteristic suitable for your needs?
"Automatic shutdown after 10 minutes at speeds 4-6, after 20 minutes at speeds 1-3"

But is this characteristic suitable for your needs?

This is kind of a very long run time? No?

Marshmallow is whipped for about 10 minutes, I don’t know about sausage and bread, I have never had a planetary.

I understand that any unit requires a forced break. Planned to mix, let him cool down, mix.
So wrong?

Does Bosch work longer without interruption?

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Here is the phrase "estimated service life of 2 years" from the characteristics of the mixer just killed. It's like, so that later the manufacturer would say - did we warn you?

[Elena]

Elena, I don't make sausage and marshmallows, I make yeast dough in HP, so I don't know if this time is enough for you or not. You have to work, so pay attention to this, maybe that's enough, I don't know.

[Elena]

Elena, the planetary whites beat up a little longer than manual. Ie.until he starts whipping them into normal foam, it will take 3-4 minutes for sure. In general, I did not notice - at first he mutuzit-mutuzit them, it seems, without result. If you turn away, do something else - just look, and already the foam has gone. You just need to track the desired stage of the whipping strength.

the topic caught my eye. I don't understand mixers, but I always watch a thread with the owners of a similar device on the forum. Offhand I immediately saw: Kitfort KT-1308, planetary mixer
look for more owners, ask around. Go to the topic for each harvester, write down the pros and cons of each, then choose, not necessarily one to one model, one manufacturer usually has bonuses and shortcomings strongly repeated in close models. SOS! Choosing planetary mixer # 9
Which mixer to choose for kneading tough bread dough? #elevenhemlux scoldGemlux GL-SM5G planetary mixer # 79
look on the search for example Kitfort planetary, Kitfort planetary and there are many Bosch owners on the forum. Ask about your sausage and marshmallows.

[teara]

teara, Tatiana, thank you. All this has been read and re-read, of course.

hemlux scold

And on the next page they praise

Ask about your sausage and marshmallows.

So I came here. The topic seems to be just on demand

Today, for me, perhaps the most incomprehensible question for me is how much the brands Gemlux and Kitford, unknown to me personally, are inferior to Bosch in terms of reliability and durability.

Once upon a time, when I was choosing a mixer or a bread maker, I was praised by Boshu for yeast dough. But for the cakes, everyone praised Kenwood and KitchenAid more. In my memory, Bosch is not the best for marshmallows, but that was a long time ago. Maybe everything has changed now. And I mix the sausage with a hand mixer. Therefore, here, too, before it seemed to me that any mixer will cope, the question is the amount of minced meat. More important than grind this mince.
It stuck in my memory that your questions are not idle. It's not just about durability, but also about the quality of work. Here the topic is suitable, but apparently, who bought it, doesn't look too much here. And who came in, is not interested in your tasks, you need to ask in the thematic model thread. In terms of durability, as luck would have it, the cheaper the larger the tape measure.

[teara]

teara, why don't they look)))? Seberia, Elena, I can write my opinion as the owner of the perennial Bosch MUM 4855 - an excellent machine for whipping creams (any), biscuits, kneading yeast dough up to 700 g of flour (it will be very difficult for him more!), Beating minced meat up to 1 - 1.5 kg. As for the marshmallow, I doubt very much that the volume of the bowl will be enough, as for the rye bread dough - definitely not! Cake dough for 1 kg of flour - divide and knead in 2 times. Tight dough for dumplings / dumplings / manti / noodles - I've never tried it, I doubt it ((. Bosch MSM 5529 used to do this kind of dough for me earlier. So they worked together - 2 Boshiks. They worked for 7 years. Perhaps they would have worked the same (and now both are in excellent condition), but I bought myself a Kenwood Elite with a 6.7 liter bowl.This is a beast machine! It does absolutely everything! True, I took it without induction - I thought it was more reliable, without unnecessary electronics. half cheaper than with induction. I advise you to still look at Kenwood, take it in installments, with hands or for a promotion (buy nozzles + the machine itself as a gift.) There are options for buying! will prompt, help you choose the best option!

[Prus - 2]

Prus - 2, Lyuba, your reasoning is very logical, but I understand for sure that most of the attachments for the combine will remain unclaimed in my small (there are only two of us) and poorly eaten family
I will choose the smallest possible mixer. Where do I have 6 liters, we will eat for a month. And we will not eat.

So I still do not consider a combine for purchase, and even more so I do not want to get into loans for this.

[Seberia]

Seberia, for your needs it is optimal to choose the so-called.hand mixer but! with a stand (when working with a volume that fits in a bowl, there is no need to hold the mixer with your hands, at the same time, no one bothers to hold the mixer in your hands to work in a suitable container with a large volume of product), a rotating bowl (not all mixers have a bowl that rotates, which is convenient) and sufficient power. He will perfectly knead the dough, knead the minced meat, and whip up the marshmallows, and the cream.

[OgneLo]

OgneLo, Marina ま り な, it's like the Bosch that Anchic on the previous page showed?
Will they knead the minced meat and the rye dough?

I looked at their capacity, up to 500. It seems to me not enough.

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I went into the topic of choosing a kneader. Looks like me there.

[Elena]

Elena, yes, it will knead the minced meat. I kneaded. I have two Boshiks - manual with a rotating bowl and Maximum, i.e. large planetary ship. Rye dough, in theory, should also, but I have not tried it. In general, I don’t bake pure rye bread, I bake rye-wheat bread. Take a look at the MFQ36460 model.

is it like the Bosch that Anchic showed on the previous page?

Yes

[Anchic]

Anchic, I realized thanks.

In general, I don’t bake pure rye bread, I bake rye-wheat bread.

Yes, I, too, rather not pure rye will bake. Combine with whole grain.
I'll think in the direction of a stationary mixer But I now have a Brown manual mixer. Does not whip up marshmallows. It settles in the end.

[Elena]

Elena, I did not whip the marshmallows, but whip the cream until soft peaks with a whisk attachment on a submersible blender. Maybe you need to beat a little longer?

Maybe you need to beat a little longer?

Here the risk of burning the mixer arises.
Last time I made marshmallows from black currant. Threshed for 10 minutes, it has already warmed up. She gave a rest and beat for another 5 minutes. The result is not very good, of course.
There was not enough power, definitely.

Cream, yes, whips up without problems.

Girls, I'm upset. My Kenwood hand blender got covered the other day. Not suitable for repair. You need to buy another one. Which one? Who will advise what? I want a blender with a glass and a bowl of knives to it. In Kenwood I also had a nozzle for mashed potatoes and hot soups, but I did not use them.




Or am I writing in the wrong topic? If not, send me where I need to

[Elena]

Elena, began to look for how much Bosch can work and found such a detailed review on him 🔗



Natasha, I have faithfully served submersible Brown for 9 years. As soon as I did not overheat it, it cools down and continues to work

submersible Brown has been serving for 9 years

Ha, 9 years old. Mine is already 13 plowing !!!

[svetta]

svetta, we bought it at the end of 2010, when the son had to introduce complementary foods. The son is now 9 years old. So, that half a year, I seem to have added. My husband chose. As I understand now, I have chosen well

[Anna]

Anna,

I found such a detailed review on it

Good review And what a nice price for this mixer
We need to think in general.
I already tuned in to the planetary. It seems to me that this is some kind of new level in my household appliances.

submersible Brown has served me faithfully for 9 years.

Ooooh, my Brown is 15 years old for sure. Maybe more, I definitely don’t remember.

[Anchic]

Anchic, and Brown was presented to us for the wedding on September 8, 2006. I myself asked for a good mixer, too, were not mistaken.

I have a cheap hand mixer of unknown Chinese origin, bought at a cheap price in a stock store, has been working for 7 years. The main disadvantage is short corollas and starts at a fairly high speed. But I do everything for them: marshmallow, sausage, cream, and even every dough is not very dense, although rarely, for this I have a bread maker. Therefore, it is difficult for me to imagine that the planetary aircraft would not cope with something. He's a PLANETARY. The question is in quantity at a time, I guess.
Therefore, a Bosch mixer or a Bosch planetary mixer? for me the planetary is more solid, and more beautiful, so neat and small. By the way, visual pleasure is also important.
although an ordinary mixer can be removed and whipped in any bowl with it, but for planetary workers this bowl must be washed, one is working there.And so, I don't really understand what can be done in a planetary gear, which cannot be done in a mixer with a rotating bowl, such as this bosh. , only slightly less and less pleasant to look at work. Maybe it thunders harder?
Now I thought: and how to knead shortbread cookies in a mixer? is there a blade in the planetary gears, but in the mixer? Probably, for cookies, the mixer is worse than the planetary in terms of equipment.

I am also on the side of Brown, I have their iron, I am not overjoyed. A friend has a blender - a beast, no demolition.

only slightly less

in this case, the quantity is limited only by the bowl used, the power of the mixer and the duration of its operation, since, if necessary, the mixer can be removed from the bed and taken in hand to work in any other container.

Well, I'm still for the planetary, if finances allow. The biscuits are inconvenient with a mixer, the tea leaves are very much crawling over the whisks at my mixer, it should be more convenient in the planetary.
And for a brown blender. I also like him, then I'll buy myself one.

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And for the brown blender

Which one? There are so many of them
Can't figure out where Brown has an advantage over others? I ask, not with the aim of offending, but I want constructive arguments.
Now I borrowed Redmond from my mother. The power is declared even more than that of my Kenwood, but in the work it is felt that it is weaker. And the leg is somehow small, flimsy. Mine was with three knives, this one with two. Punched berries, Redmond does it much longer.
Plastic is worse, metal is thinner.
Here he is both.

Kenwood to the left, Redmond to the right.

[caprice23]

caprice23, Natasha, look at blender BBK KBH0908. It has three knives and a power of 850 watts.
My BBK KBH1011 is very happy.

Kenwood 724 ordered to live long. I bought a replacement VVK.