I choose a harvester, blender, processor

[Sannyshka]

Sannyshka,

here no one owns budget equipment?

owns-owns. I have almost all the equipment from the budget. The Irit hand mixer has been working for 10 years for sure. Bosch took the immersion blender, at 600 watts I did not whip a smoothie well, in the morning I went to the store, handed it over. I bought a budget kitchen. a Leran combine and a small shredder of the same company to it, is a completely different matter. I have a meat grinder Vitek. Also (y) It's like a lottery, whoever gets lucky with the technique.

I bought a stove of iritis, I was flattered at a small price to make me sugar syrup next to the combine.
There it is, yes, it warms up, it never broke, but half an hour of half a liter of water does not reach boiling water anyway, but it can’t cope anymore. 1000 watts declared power.
So yeah, like a lottery.

[Svetlana Mazqarovna]

Svetlana Mazqarovna, You probably don't cook so many confectioners, that's why this technique came up.Lena, put everything right on the shelves and painted .. chewed everything and put it in my mouth! Who needs it for what purposes! Protein custard is not destiny! But a mogul or a muffin there, of course it will turn out! Do not redeem, or give back and buy someone more normal .. although, you have to ask in general,SannyshkaWhy did you take it?
I myself recently turned to the girls with a question about a hand mixer (although in my subconscious I understood that it was necessary! And I and Zelmer have manual blenders and 5 blenders, but I'm not talking about the Kenwoods) for each technique its purpose.

And no one can convince me otherwise.

Sveta and what, were willing ?? : I am soPsem already ..

I ordered a Vitek vt-1433 mixer on timoll. I look, no one here owns budget equipment? Do they all have Kenwoods? It would be interesting to know the nuances. While I have read that it is weak, but kneads the dough, whips the whites. Did you make the wrong choice?

budget equipment - it is also different ... The planetary aircraft has rather complex mechanics. If it is also made of plastic, overheating is really dangerous. My planetary is also, I think, budgetary, although it costs 8000. However, according to rumors, the gears are metal.
Here I was kneading it for sausage. The mode is approximately the following: kneads for 3-5 minutes, stopped, shook off the sinewy minced meat from the kneader (at least a minute of rest), kneaded it again, removed it, and once more ... And like this, several portions without significant interruptions. By the end of the work, I felt that the top cover had become warm. Well, the work is over. This is First FA-5259.
I guess 20 minutes without stopping is not a problem for him. But the leg with the Polaris rim heats up much more after three minutes.
Well, about the Bosches. Fifteen years ago, a budget Bosch cost as much as a fancy Indesit or LG - and I took Bosch, and it worked for a long time and reliably. Now budget equipment from a serious manufacturer must withstand the warranty period plus three days - otherwise, it is considered poorly designed. How else? So everyone will buy eternal mixers for themselves - and who then will they sell new ones?
PS. The Soviet-made hand mixer still works fine.

[zvezda]

zvezda, well, so the person here writes that he strained with the money. All the same, we understand that a Mercedes is better than a fret-viburnum, but we dance from the wallet.

if he is going to make a cake every six months, gently protecting Vitka from any overload, then it is normal

[zvezda]

zvezda, and why protein custard will not work? I just got a protein custard with an ordinary leg. But this is by way of exception. Usually I rarely cook anything delicious. I took it for biscuit and yeast dough. And how it turns out in practice, we'll see.

She, girls, I am far from confectionery. Me just for myself.

To do the load of the Vitka half and lower than the prescribed one, do not allow it to even get a little heated or strained.

[Sannyshka]

Sannyshka, Vic, well, you've already ordered Vitek. There is a lot to advise, but the choice has already been made. We have cases when they took a "dark horse", which had not been tested by anyone from the members of the forum, and received joy from using the device. Start using it with bright thoughts and everything will work out. A planetary in many confectionery matters will be more effective than a "leg" one way or another. It's cool to emulsify with your foot. Here planetary will not help in any way.

In general, get, start using and share your impressions, if you have the opportunity and desire

and ordered, that is, have already paid? Why is the conversation going on as a fait accompli? Can't you replay?

[Lena]

Lena, yes) payment first, then goods)

Then throw it out of your head, everything that I wrote above and do as Svetik wrote. The only thing, only very carefully, do not allow extreme loads and overloads. Load products far from the maximum. Touch the head with your hand, if it heats up even a little, stop it.
And in general, this is not an old development of Vitek and it may not disappoint at all as a novelty, your toy will only delight you.

Today in Mvideo I was offered a Kenwood planetary mixer with a 25t discount. R. (cost 45, give 19.9 rubles). This action is on them for 3 days, the pin on the attachments and the seat itself is metal. There are 4 colors, glass bowl.

[CREATIVELADY]

CREATIVELADY, the minced meat for the chopped sausage kneads perfectly. Tried up to three kilos. Three is probably a lot.
I have not tried the dough yet.
In general, the device is not in doubt, it looks powerful and reliable. A worthy helper for novice arthritis.

Thank you. I apologize that I did not immediately notice your answer - I was stuck in another branch)), I am more interested in exactly how the dough kneads and whips the cream, but on a note First, I wrote it down for myself)

[valentine]

valentine, I have a question for you about First) tell me, what is the maximum amount of bread dough that kneads? I look closely at him, I need it mainly as a dough mixer.

I look, no one here owns budget equipment? Do they all have Kenwoods?

Victoria, there are quite budgetary and reliable kneaders.
Take a look at Bomann / Klatronic planetary mixers (kitchen machines) for example.
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There are many different models with quite decent characteristics, including completely metal and even heated models and with a bunch of additional attachments, such as this:
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And we have threads on the forum about them:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=426690.0
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...73608.0
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...286.0
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...778.0

Take a look HERE and other models.
More HERE there are topics about kitchen machines, for example, about proficiency - budget and powerful.
AND HERE many models.
So it's not Kenwood alone ...
Good luck with your choice!

Vityok came to us! So he was christened). I hope it will work for a long time. While delight. Made a biscuit the most common of 4 eggs, I really wanted to check. Super whipped, baked in a slow cooker, the dough is the most tender. Maybe it could be more if I beat it longer, but even at this stage I am very happy. Now mom can always bake an awesome charlotte. It turned out to be quite compact in size, I thought it would be a colossus. I did not notice that when beating eggs with sugar I was very hot, so I think that if there are more eggs, then you can violate the time instructions in order to achieve the desired consistency. Of the minuses, a thin bowl, a little strange smell when washing. You know, when the metal gets wet, it's so specific. And in the reviews they wrote that the products are oxidized if they lie in it for a long time. But this is not a problem, as such, I do not store food in it, I am not going to drop it. And a little bit of the smell of Chinese plastic when it worked, but it will definitely pass. There, the packaging itself smelled more than the mixer. By the way, a pleasant moment, lubrication was not spared on the moving parts. I would attach a picture of a biscuit, but I can't. And we will check the kneading dough in the near future.I hope it won't let you down in this regard.) I will definitely unsubscribe, maybe someone will come in handy with a choice.

[Victoria]

Victoria, and in figs, a thick bowl is needed, only it is harder to pull and wash. In general, I love plastic in bowls. I think I will like it according to the test. Vitka are quite pleasant cars, pleasure will be provided

[Vika]

the girls have thick foam there, but I have garbage.

I just got a protein custard with an ordinary leg.

I did not get that?!
Girls! Yes, I realized that I need to meet the budget. I just don't understand why a person takes it? After all, you need to know the goal ... well, confectionery, cold shop, sausages ...
how to decipher this?

I am far from confectionery. Me just for myself.

Vika for cosmetics or what ?!

[zvezda]

zvezda, her, well, you bent it) not for cakes in the sense. I already understood what kind of nonsense I wrote) in the sense of what household stuff, and not specific purposes. I just look here, someone is only looking for cakes and creams, someone is looking for ham, someone is for dough. I definitely don't need it for the ham. Everything in bits. In general, I gave it to my mom. He will exploit as he wants. In general, she says, she did not know that there are such machines that do everything themselves. In the sense that they are not professional, but so small, for ordinary users. Although many people write that professional

[Olya]

Olya, for especially infrequent use for a small number of people or a small cake in size when guests arrive.
And so the unit will stand. People do not eat cakes, they eat soup. But sometimes you want charlotte and so that without torment.
For such purposes, an inexpensive twist is quite good. Vitka is very pleasant to use, and if you do not work it out, it will bring a lot of pleasure without problems.

They baked pies, we can now say about Vitka as a dough mixer. In this, of course, I disappointed, but not too much. I understood what the users on the network were talking about when they wrote "kneaded on his last legs." My personal feeling is that not everything is so bad. The engine is powerful. If the plastic was better, then it was possible to knead dumplings calmly. We tried to knead 1kg of flour into pies. For him, this is a lot, stirring up his hands. But again, if you knead 500 g of flour, then he will perfectly finish the job to the end and get 800-1000 g of dough at the output, which is just for an ordinary family. It's just that we immediately used to do it rarely, but accurately. And it will normally knead the dough for bread of this volume. 7 minutes is enough. As a mixer I liked him better. This is all subjective opinion for home use. Naturally, those who bake cakes on a regular basis or pies need to take the car seriously. What can I say, it's worth its money. If he works for at least 3 years, as stated in the book, I will be more than happy.

I'm not a magician. It reminds me of using my first blender. Then I bought a scarlet and not the cheapest one))) I happily pinned it on my own from the store and tried it ... on a carrot. I decided to grind it. Nuuuu there was little smoke.
I have a Bosch, a bowl of 3900 liters, almost like yours, it has the same power of 900 watts, but it would never even enter my head to put a kg of dough into it. And yours is softer than mine. In the instructions, the maximum is for 1000g, read right away: this is the maximum for a very soft dough. For safety, immediately reduce the load by one-third, that is, it turns out 600-700 g for a very soft and immediately half should be reduced for what is for pies.
That is, your limit is 500 g and no more !!!!! if you want the machine to work out the warranty period, and not as I did with the carrot.

Once again, I warn you. Reduce the load by at least a third of the maximum in the instructions.

[Lena]

Lena, I got it. I read the instructions. In fact, flour was poured over the eye, but there was a lot, the dough came out steep, too much. It should have been soft. And he just normally takes a soft one for 500 g of flour. I don't know about Bosch, but this one has a power of 500. What is written on the mixer is just the maximum power. It is not particularly important. I just don't understand where Scarlet and the carrot have to do with it? What did you do not according to the instructions?

[Victoria]

Victoria, well, you were more impatient to try the new product on the test, and I would get carrot puree
Immediately experiencing a novelty, and only then being afraid for it - that's what is in common. Start using the device without looking back.
Bosch is also not designed for a large number of products. This is not kenwood, I ship it tenderly and carefully
Excuse me, it somehow persisted, but I just want: let the purchase bring you maximum pleasure.

[Lena]

Lena, nothing wrong. It's just that I rather on the contrary wanted to check whether he was as weak as they slander him. But no, the thing is fire. I'm happy, mom is happy. And this is the main thing.

[Victoria]

but it would never occur to me to shove a kg of dough into it.

I also read it twice, I thought it seemed .. but no !! Risky you girl Victoria! More. than 400 grams of flour and do not think! Quack in a couple of times! I have a manual 500 W, and even then I work with mousses for 5 minutes! not a test! What dumplings
Yeah...Lena, thank you for helping the girl .. otherwise he will do it, oh, my heart can feel it .. this dumpling maker will do it

About the load.
If the Chinese gears are loaded at half the load for which the normal ones were designed (from which the Chinese licked them), then they have a chance of a long work. They will then die of old age, in three years. They can break immediately under full load.

[Dmitriy]

Dmitriy, what we are talking about! But it's not about the Chinese gear or not (now everything is done in China) it's about the company! Kenwood is also from China .. but there the representatives of the company are responsible and monitor the quality.
In general .. let it not overload it and there will be happiness! And most importantly, you can't !! work on it for a long time.

Victoria, I read the instructions for a similar Vitka. He does not knead dumplings.

does not knead dumplings dough.

The stump is so clear ... I said it without reading the instructions! Do not break the equipment yourself ... It's me Vika !! That's why I buy expensive equipment .. not from fat, but just as a technician (I have a higher education, a technical radio designer), I understand the capabilities of this or that technology and I understand that I don't need it! It is better to take one time (I took both on credit and in installments), but normal equipment !! But if they cook little, then it will go easier

I don't know where to write correctly, but the moderators will forgive me
Not long ago an induction Keshenka appeared in our family, now it is overgrown with nozzles. But I have big doubts about the combine. I ask the help of those who have Kenwood and Bosch, I am worried that in Kenwood, pieces of rubbed will slip into the bowl. In the boshe (I'm looking at a separate stationary harvester with a cube cutter), there is some kind of plastic rim, nothing can get through it. Plus, I like the size 8 * 8 * 8 cube cutter ... and please tell me about the disks, I would like to (even if purchased separately) for potato pancakes, large (for blanks) and medium (for soup) graters, fries, shredder (for cabbage , potatoes in circles), please tell us how the dimensions correspond to a normal grater and how many leftovers



But I don't really want to allocate a place for a separate device ... although it can be used as a second bowl ... in short, I am all in doubt hoping for advice from experienced)

[Yulenka]

Yulenka, we have separate topics for kenwoods. They will definitely help and prompt you.

Kenwood kitchen machines (part 3)
Kenwood kitchen machine: working with attachments (2)

Well, according to the numbers and articles of accessories and spare parts, there is a guide

KM Kenwood. Directory.

There are Kenwoods, but I'm interested in the comparison with the Boshik ...

[Yulenka]

Yulenka, Miranda had some kind of Bosch, and now Kenwood is induction. Maybe write to her in a personal note so that she looks into this topic.

[Anchic]

Anchic, no need to PM, I'm subscribed to the topic
I had a Bosch MCM 64085, in the Bosch theme there are my stories about it. I had it from August 15 to June / July 16. After buying an induction Kenwood, I compared it for about 2-3 weeks, and then sold it. If I were rich and I had a huge kitchen, I would leave.

A bit busy at work, but somewhere in an hour + - I'll write a detailed answer (if someone is drunk to write something else, he won't even stick with it)

[Lena (Bijou)]

at Lena (Bijou) I also had an experience, in my opinion, with two combines.

[Lena]

Lena, I think that Yulia is talking about Bosch MCM. Although I may be wrong. And Bijou Bosh, who is Mum.

Bijou has a Bosch for a long time, which is 5529 Cubic. MCM.
But there were no comparisons with Kenwood, and the main issue, as I understood it, is the errors of execution just on his grater-cubes.

I ask the help of those who have Kenwood and Bosch, I am worried that in Kenwood, pieces of rubbed will slip into the bowl. In the boshe (I'm looking at a separate stationary harvester with a cube cutter), there is some kind of plastic rim, nothing can get through it. Plus, I like the size 8 * 8 * 8 cube cutter ... and please tell me about the disks, I would like to (even if purchased separately) for potato pancakes, large (for blanks) and medium (for soup) graters, fries, shredder (for cabbage , potatoes in circles), please tell us how the dimensions correspond to a normal grater and how many leftovers

Into which bowl will the rubbed pieces slip? In a Kenwood food processor, it is rubbed into a bowl. What do you have in mind?

The cube cutter in Boshik is smaller, it is. It was the only thing that was a pity to part with. But everything else + is comparable. Except for one thing, which is better in Kenwood. In Boch, a semi-liquid can climb under a stick in the center of the bowl. Sausage emulsion, pancake dough.



It is very difficult to explain, you need to try it with your hands, but this can be avoided with a certain skill. And Kenwood initially does not have such problems, since the structure there is denser.
I wrote in more detail here Kenwood kitchen machine: working with attachments # 5924

Well, so - there is more bowl in Bosh, he needs a place (the food processor also needs, but less). With a large kitchen, I would keep a separate blender and food processor, not because they are worse in Kenwood, but to be on hand.

There is a place in the kitchen, all the equipment is being updated, so the question is in convenience and I hope everything will last a long time. I watched the reviews, on which the emulsion also crawls out like this in Kenwood, I decided that this was their general error. And about the graters ... for the sake of the cubes I bought myself a simple blender with such a nozzle (the cubes, by the way, are excellent there), but there is a distance between the discs and the bowl, and the unbroken pieces flew into the bowl. Then they need to be picked out and manually processed.
I also doubt whether the combine may not be taken at all, but a Bosch blender with a cube ... it is also with graters, shake out the bowl faster, and during the cutting process, you can distribute the cut. And for large workpieces, the attachment for the keshenka.
Help advice ...

a blender blender does not have as many disks as a big brother. Fries and julienne, very fine for cheese and some others, for example, do not exist in nature for a little one. The Bosch blender has a drawback in the form of a lid that cannot be washed. And in the gaps of which the juice from the meat can get. That is, I use it calmly for dry vegetables, and I use dances with tambourines for wet meat products.
For meat emulsions, I would categorically not take Bosch all the time.
Well, and such a trifle as the assembly. It is not going to be one-two-three, but click there, combine there.
The bowl is small and quickly filled, so if the family is large and you need a lot of the same salad for every day, then for me you will not be so happy to take off the lid back and forth.
And in terms of functionality, it is perfect for my taste. Everything is neat, cutting suits, as far as electronic cutting can suit.
That is, the neck for the same cabbage is small, the cabbage is not planed as neatly as with the hands, such cutting may not suit at all. Onions are not rubbed in neat cubes, as on the same alligator. That is, if you find fault, then ...
cabbage and onions remain the most problematic for Bosch.
And I have not tried kenwood, and its graters are praised the same way.



If the heaped up kenwood did not suit you entirely and you are looking for an ideal and there is a place, then you can look towards the units that individually perform one function perfectly?
For emulsification, it seems like now the girls take this
Blender Ninja with IQ system
ask around there in the topic about devices for obtaining an emulsion.
On graters, the variety is kind of like a bullet
Veggie bullet 3 in 1: spiralizer, vegetable cutter, slicer
But you need to look at the set exactly for your needs.

Of the cheaper and simpler ones, there is only a vegetable cutter of filipoks with a bunch of grapes on the forum, but for Kenwood, I suppose, you can get hold of all this too.
There is a mulinex vegetable cutter that rubs directly into the dish (graters are very simple), but gives a cube + straw.

And here are the cubes, and graters, and the emulsion straight 3 in one, but without flaws, I have not seen such.

I watched the reviews, on which the emulsion also crawls out like this in Kenwood, I decided that this was their general error.

The problem is common for any combine of any brand, where a bowl with a pipe is in the middle, a knife is put on this pipe, and the pipe is placed on the motor stick.

But in different devices with such a design, there is a different degree of creeping of liquid / thick under the stick. In Boch, if you look at it or don't know this feature, don't know how to defeat it, it not only climbs under the stick (as in the photo), but also on the pin of the gearbox on the motor. I knew this feature, and after 4-5 experiments I got used to avoiding it. For liquid / thick dances with tambourines, you cannot avoid, and you need to feel them yourself.

In Kenwood, I once climbed under the knife, but not to the full length, as in the photo above, but a little bit along the edge, that is, 3 + -mm. Everything is tight there and protection against such a feature is provided.

for professionals there is a Robot Coupe technique, here there is literally an ideal for big money. A bunch of types of cubes and types of rubbing, a fantastic emulsion. And for household needs, everything is not at all like that. Two cubes in the teeth and rejoice

Thanks for the advice! So my Keshenka will be waiting for replenishment)

Hello everyone!
I washed the kMix Kenwood blender gearbox in the dishwasher. As a result, the engine block also burned out over time. I am looking for a more than worthy replacement. In the workshop, they recommend Bosch, there are more nozzles, but I have a Kenwood induction machine, how much I need a re-set of nozzles is a question. I understand that everything has already been covered and discussed many times, but times change, new models come out. What do you advise?
KitchenAid 5khb2571 submersible blender - I read the reviews, but there are not enough of them to make an unambiguous conclusion.
Bamix Superbox hand blender superset, perhaps?
Send me to the address, please.)))

He does not knead dumplings

dumplings dough, like any other dough of similar density, is optimal, quickly knead with knives, and not torment the hook.

Dumplings dough without kneading in 21 seconds! (dough for dumplings with knives in a food processor) + video (Doxy)

I am looking for a more than worthy replacement

Isn't it easier to buy a new gearbox instead of a broken one?

Girls I'm going crazy with these mixer choices now
Helpeeeee

I choose a planetary mixer. Only he is needed, not a combine.
The budget is limited to a maximum of 7 thousand rubles.

Now I'm choosing between the brands Gemlux, Kitfort and, suddenly, Bosh Mum 48SL and MUM P1000, which are well within the cost.
In Boch, the small power is confusing - 600 watts.
Between Gemlux and Kitford I don’t understand how to choose. The topics of the forum went through, it didn’t become clearer.
Should you pay attention to power? Or is Bosch still more reliable, no matter what?

In Boch, the small power is confusing - 600 watts.

Why bothers you? I have such a Bosch 4756 and everything suits me.
What is a mixer for?

[svetta]

svetta,

Why bothers you?

Probably because of the comparison with Gemlux and Kitford, which have 1000 and more power. I don’t understand how the power is equal to the quality of mixing and whipping?
I added those models there. which fit into my price range.

What is a mixer for?

I forgot to write right away.
This is marshmallow, sausage and bread (usually rye).
I also liked that the Gemlux had 2 hooks. Sounds good when kneading a dough?

And you, what are you doing yours?