I choose a harvester, blender, processor

I also knead minced meat in it for cutlets

With what?

And in different ways. When hook and when flexi. By mood

[telez]

telez, premonitions did not deceive me. (from)

[Marpl]

Will he knead minced meat for ham

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Marpl, I also have MUM5. I knead the minced meat for both the ham and sausages in the main bowl. I use the grappling hook. There is a flexi-whisk, but I use it for the confectioner. If it accumulates on the walls, I push it down with a spatula.
I believe that MUM4 can handle this too. In addition, for him there is official ice maker, and then stir the mixture for at least half an hour

Girls, thanks for the answers. Your feedback helps you make the right choice.

I read and read the topic, but still decided to write it, because I was completely confused in the names, models and compatibility. I need a device for shredding cabbage, carrots, radishes and other raw vegetables for salads, and for preparing the first, second, etc. dishes. the dough does not matter, because we practically do not bake, there is no time. But vegetables to eat more - my hands are already falling off on hand graters to chop, well, I constantly cut myself no matter how hard I try (((
In general, it is necessary that raw vegetables are straws (necessarily!), So that they do not break in a year, and so that they do not take up much space. a meat grinder, blender, mixer and mini-grinder are already available and are regularly used as intended. But to chop raw vegetables - I have already rubbed all hands on hand graters (((
Although I would try to make sausages, sausages ...

Girls, does anyone have a Bosch MUM 4880? I would like to hear responses. Now in Eldorado there are 30% discounts on it.

[Sibiryachka]

Sibiryachka, there is a whole section about Bosch.

https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&board=622.0

[Miranda]

Miranda, yes, I saw, but I did not find the topic about the 4th series

[Sibiryachka]

Sibiryachka, there is no separate topic, I constantly met in discussions.

[Miranda]

Miranda, well thank you! I'll see more there!

yes, I saw it, but I didn't find the topic about episode 4

And on this page what information does not fit?

[Bijou, Lena]

Bijou, Lena, I had a question: reviews about a specific model. And on this page and on the Bosch page, I only found a mention of it.
But all this is no longer important! I ordered it without any reviews!

And the meat for ham, if mixed in MUM 4, should it be chopped in a blender or is it enough to cut it into small pieces with a knife? And then, I did the ham once, chopped the meat in an old blender, and then kneaded the house of white threads with hooks with a hand mixer. The ham turned out good, and the old blender was covered (some plastic crap flew inside).
Bosika MUM 4 bought by shares on March 8, production of Slovenia. While whipping only whites at 4 speeds. Superrrrrr !!! I would like the ham, but now there is nothing to "whip up" So, I think, maybe it will be enough to cut it with a knife and just knead it with a hook? :: Do you get the notorious "white threads"?

So, I think it might be enough to cut with a knife and just knead with a hook?

Svetlana16 will work. Just stir longer

[Svetlana16, Svetlana]

Svetlana16, Svetlana, I tried it today. It turned out very well with a hook. For about 10 minutes it interfered.

[Sibiryachka]

Sibiryachka, does the motor overheat? At what speed did you interfere?

[kuzashka]

kuzashka, no, it's okay. At first speed.

Girls, thanks for the advice. Today I will also make ham, yesterday I bought a turkey. I will definitely unsubscribe how Boshik will cope

I found a weak point in Bosch 4.)) How wonderful he kneads ordinary bread dough, he just as disgustingly kneads my butter.Dough for 500 grams of flour, with sugar-butter-yolks, introduced into the ripened dough ... Nothing, as they say, did not bode, and suddenly bam! .. The dough was smeared around the perimeter, the hook barely clings, pulling out individual fibers and that's it ... I watched for about five minutes, raked it into Kenwood and ... everything immediately wound around the hook. But somehow it was kneaded.

I don’t understand what’s the matter - whether this method of conducting the test is to blame, or he is not given baked goods in principle.
We still have to try, but without dough.

[Lena]

Lena, I have the same parsley with 5 Bosch. A small amount of not tough donut dough - everything is on the walls. Infuriates

Infuriates

Uh-huh. The edge needs to be flexi bought, I shield.))

Lena, I have flexi. She does not help in this matter - all the same, everything is on the walls.

[Ludmila]

Ludmila, obana ... This is the number!
And what is she for? I was sure that she should sweep from the walls everything that lay down there to rest.

I don't even know why. I bought minced meat to knead sausage. But I don't do much and all the stuffing is on the walls. According to the test, I said. I think that maybe they should knead dough for a biscuit or a cake.

I think that maybe they should knead dough for a biscuit or a cake.

Did you knead yourself? And then, like this, I throw in so much money for this thing, but it is not clear why I need it.))
Although, as for me, such a dough can be shaken with a flat thin whisk.

And yet ... People, how do you Boshami knead pastry, where gluten is on the sidelines and there is nothing to "fold"?
IMHO, a pound of flour in my experience seems to be quite a bit for such a crumb - I make about the same amount of bread, if not less, and it looks normal.

[Bijou, Lena]

Bijou, Lena, I tried bread for 400 gr. flour, also smeared on the walls. But, surprisingly, I liked how I kneaded! Today I want to try more flour. I'll see how I handle it. Yesterday I was kneading the dough on Krepel, on yogurt and soda, 650 gr. flour. Perfectly kneaded, the bun was ready to hook.

I use flexi for creams and for everything with cottage cheese. I don't eat cottage cheese, I don't like it, and in general IMHO it's disgusting. The only option is to grind it into a mass with sour cream. This is still normal.
I mix minced meat for sausages and wieners in my own steel bowl with a hook and everything suits me. For sausages I use a multi-mixer attachment.
On the dough: I often make bread and make it with my own flour. When a gingerbread man assembles himself, when not, the result does not affect. At least for me. Of the rest, I only make charlottes and biscuits

Of the rest, I only make charlottes and biscuits

THAN?? That is the question!

I tried bread for 400 gr. flour, also smeared on the walls. But, surprisingly, I liked how I kneaded!

It's amazing ... I've posted a photo here somewhere - to get a kick out of how cool he kneads bread! Such fibers, such silk in a ball! I don’t even remember smearing it. Maybe our dough is very different?)

650 gr. flour

Whoa! And I feel sorry for him, I immediately shove such volumes into Kenwood. I'll have to risk it. But yeast, nevertheless, in a thin layer along the hook, crawls upward even under the lid. I'm afraid that a lot will come out with a large portion. Many things are difficult to do the first time.

That is the question!

Bijoux, usually with a 3-spoke whisk



Who wanted to look at about flexi, here Masinen laid out the recipe. The mixing stages are visible there
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=428555.0

[Lena]

Lena, and yesterday by 750 gr. flour kneaded yeast dough. Great! It climbed the hook, but did not crawl under the lid, but what about 650 grams. it was, yes, it got through But the consistency was different.
Yes, the bread maker kneads in a completely different way. Although, I am very happy with my Panasonic and love it very much, and I use it to the fullest!

Yesterday I was kneading meat for ham in Bosch MUM 4855. I took 750 g of meat (turkey and pork) cut into 2x2 pieces. I was afraid to take a kilogram. Not "blender" - straight into the combine. Added 100 g of water (prescription). Boshik mixed everything easily.I think it's easier for him to knead meat on ham than dough, because the meat is cut into pieces and they break up when kneading with a hook. Next time I'll put a kilogram of meat. Kneading for 15 minutes, first at 1 speed, but very weakly, switched to the second and kneaded on it to the end. After the blender, of course, there are more white fibers, but even here they appeared by the end. I mixed all the water into the meat. The ham turned out to be good, did not disintegrate when sliced, although the recipe was without gelatin. I am happy, now I will knead meat in Boshik.



Maybe kneading depends on the speed? Kneading the dough at speed 1? Sooooooo slow, maybe because of this everything was smeared with a hook and was not going to the kolobok? And 2 speed will quickly knock out the gluten and the food will not smear on the walls. IMHO my guess

Found a weak point in Bosch 4.))

in-in, and I have all the same.
I don't like Kenwood either. I also want to experiment with the bread maker.
I use my flexi for pancake dough, for muffin, for curd, yes.
But only this flexi has already torn from both sides.
Not. I don't like all this at all.

[Svetlana16]

Svetlana16, I kneaded at 2 speeds. I think due to the fact that flour is 400 gr. it was not enough. The instructions contain a recipe for 500 gr. Well, maybe also because rye flour was 40%.



Rituslya, happy Birthday! I wish you all the best.
I've tried to make the dough for a pound cake, for 3 eggs. He also smeared butter and sugar on the walls and that's it. When I added a little eggs it became better. Maybe you need not a whisk, but this one with three wires. I still do not understand yet, what is it for?

Well, everything, I did it! Bought today MUM4756EU05 in a complete set (almost). I will go later to show and tell the mummy Temko.

Maybe you need not a whisk, but this one with three wires. I still do not understand yet, what is it for?

Natasha, this whisk in the instructions "is intended for mixing various types of dough, for example, non-yeast dough." (You read the instructions, right?)

[svetta]

you read the instructions, right?

svetta, well yes! I just can't imagine for myself what I'm going to mix with them! Sponge cake - with a whisk, yeast - with a hook. And with this, maybe a cupcake, which is thicker

[svetta]

Bijoux, usually with a 3-spoke whisk

Yasnenko, thanks.))

and yesterday by 750 gr. flour kneaded yeast dough. Great!

Wow! ... And what, was the engine sound normal? Our intonation somehow inspires me a little after Kenwood ... Especially on the first program. Such a disgusting sound, I just want to turn it off, so as not to suffer. But I usually translate into the second.))
Is it the same for yours or is it just us lucky?

Although, I am very pleased with my Panasonic and love it very much, and I use it to the fullest!

Oh, but my Panasik was not enough for 10 years of episodic work - the condenser is dead. We bought a new one, but who else would solder it ... ((

I use my flexi for pancake dough, for muffin, for curd, yes.
But only this flexi has already torn from both sides.

Wow, sad. It costs decently, to deliver to us also for a "separate payment", but it also refuses to live ??
svetta, Congratulations! To live long and work well!

And what, did the motor have a normal sound?

Yes, sort of normal. It seems to me that it also buzzed at 400 grams. flour.

Oh, but my Panasik was not enough for 10 years of episodic work

10 years is a period! I had 3 moulinex. Longest job 2 years!

[Lena]

Lena, I had bread dough with bread, as you described - smeared on the wall and does not cling. I have mum XL. I noticed that it depends on flour. For the last six months I have been baking at the Sokolnicheskaya and this has never happened. And when I bought cheaper flour, I regularly came across this. Usually it helped to let the flour swell a little, collect the dough into a lump with a spatula and then knead normally. But sometimes the flour began to "float", then it simply did not stick like a bun on a hook, but stick to the walls. But it was kneaded. Ie.around the hook, like a wide skirt, which is constantly stretched and folded.

That is, around the hook, like a wide skirt, which is constantly stretched and folded.

In, I have today it seems like 600 grams of Makfa were so mixed.)) With two pauses - then it turns out more beautiful and easier. Now I was folding it instead of kneading - it was even kneaded so well that I didn't even manage to knead the dough too much.)) A chubby bun in my hands and that's it.

Question. It's a miracle - the Vitek VT-1433 food processor justifies the price of 3200 rubles?
Or money down the drain?

Food processor Moulinex Double Force FP826H10. Girls, what can you say about him? Is it worth paying attention to this model?

[animegravitation]

animegravitation, I would not buy Vitek! The quality of the plastic is poor!

[Belka13]

Moulinex Double Force FP826H10

Belka13, Olga, deliberately rushed through the Amazons. It is presented in French only and no reviews. Maybe because the model is relatively new and one of the most expensive. They have been selling it since summer 2017.

🔗

But handsome, of course!

[Belka13]

Belka13, and this is because of the two mounts or why you want it?

Now there are so many combines, one is good in one, another is different. I here at Kenwood in their new kFLEX liked that there are two bowls - one plastic with a knife and other discs, that is, a standard set of functions like all + -, and the second iron for kneading dough with a hook that is quite original for combines ( under the spoiler). Well, and weighs more.

This is a complete kit. Even flexi with a removable elastic band is

I was recently ashamed here that I wanted a mini-harvester, they say, already to a fig of different equipment. But small, so that you still want to stand all the time. But the big one, whatever new pieces they come up with, I don't want to.

I would not buy Vitek! The quality of the plastic is poor!

I have a Vitek meat grinder for years, norms. plastic.

[Svetlenki]

Svetlenki, Miranda, just drew attention to the novelty. Seemed cute. I love wide bowls. The power is not bad. I also want a little helper to be at hand at all times. And not just a shredder, but a multifunctional device. It's too lazy to run into the pantry every time for the processor. And because of the small volume, I don't want to wash a large bowl with accessories either. So I'm looking at something interesting.
My dream, of course, is the Kenwood multicooker (I call it that). I also saw a novelty at Moulinex - but the price is 70,000 rubles

[Svetlana Mazqarovna]

Svetlana Mazqarovna, there can be the case in precisely this? When they untwisted, they did it normally ...

My dream, of course, is the Kenwood multicooker (I call it that)

Oh, and mine!
Why am I aware of Kenwood's new products, because sometimes I look at foreign sites for attachments, well, has this "multicooker" not become cheaper, has it appeared in Ukraine, which would be great. And at the same time I see something else. That is, I don't google the harvesters on purpose, only if they themselves caught my eye. But recently I saw that the "multicooker" appeared in the Czech version of the site, but I have not found the Czech price yet. If they publish the book in Czech, it's very good, because I know Czech at the C level. And the instruction, again.

But Moulinex and others alike - this is a lot of space for me. I am ready to select it only for a "multicooker". And putting it on the shelf - so there are nozzles from KM with the same functionality, it makes no sense. I am thinking about a little something, but I don’t make up my mind yet.

[Miranda]

Miranda, oh, I haven't seen Kenwood kflex. I liked him too. But it is not sold in Russia, is it?
I would like a compact model, but always in a metal case. To be combined with CM and other equipment.