Michael
Quote: Kara
suluguni
The filling is cheese with herbs (cilantro), grinds and mixes the cutter in 5-7 seconds.
Suluguni is a less successful cheese for Indian flatbreads than Adyghe cheese.



Added Saturday 18 Mar 2017 07:42 PM

For puree soup (yesterday's soup quality was repeated) -
- parsley (scoop) and three cloves of garlic.
I choose a harvester, blender, processor
Cutter work - 7 sec.
I choose a harvester, blender, processor
LisaNeAlisa
Michael, everything is the same in the Kenwood food processor ... less in the multi-shredder.
And before that, in general, I did it in a chopper from a blender.
I don't understand why you focus on chopping herbs and cheese. Tell us what it can do that universal cache and kitschen cannot, since you have been comparing them so carefully.
Kara
Anita, nothing like that!


Added Saturday 18 Mar 2017 08:36 PM

Quote: Michael
Adyghe cheese and suluguni with cilantro and parsley for Indian flatbreads.
Mikhail, anyone can grind cheese with herbs, the cheapest, the cheapest blender

Here is chop spelled for bread or almond flour to make, this, I understand, is a distinctive feature
LisaNeAlisa
Quote: Kara
Anita, nothing like that!
So here I am about the same))))
Zeamays
Quote: Michael
Professional kneaders for 3-4 days studied very closely and came to the conclusion - we do not need it, plus its narrow film content is present.

Mikhail, why are you so sure that your machine is not Chinese?
"Mechanical equipment manufactured by Robot Coupe is exported to over 80 countries worldwide."
Can a factory in Burgundy cope with such volumes?
Michael
Quote: LisaNeAlisa
Tell us what it can do that universal cache and kitschen cannot, since you have compared them so carefully.
I did not compare Kesha as a combine, unless for a short time a planetary mixer and the purchase of 6 attachments and a cache as a gift have already written about this.
Kitchen took longer and more careful consideration. Although their teapots stink, many know about it and even reluctantly admit magera if you press them against a warm wall.
Kitchen, for several days I studied the thread on the forum about the mixer.
Then I forgot about kesha and kitschen, but kitschen got a chance - KitchenAid 5KFP1335 plus a dice nozzle, I didn't like the reviews.
We are looking at KitchenAid 5KFP1644E, the price is 50K, the reviews are not encouraging.
In general, I don't believe in kitschen, if only because professional and household appliances are different categories.
Quote: LisaNeAlisa
And before that, in general, I did it in a chopper from a blender.
And I did the same work in the Bosch hand blender, the same work that I did the Robocop hand blender twice - the result of the final product is different and it tastes very noticeable.
Why this is happening, I do not know.
Once, a meat grinder, it may be an accident, but twice, a hand blender, is a natural result.
Kutter pleases us with his work, quickly and efficiently.
Quote: LisaNeAlisa
can't universal ...
Our first combine appeared in the summer of 1986. GDR, bought in Leipzig. It seems there is a lot of everything, but there are not many interesting things, I especially remember the dead meat grinder. In a year and a half we sold this harvester.
So, universality is good only in advertising, IMHO.


Added Saturday 18 Mar 2017 09:14 PM

Quote: Kara
Here is to grind spelled for bread or to make almond flour, this, I understand, is a distinctive feature
This is not needed yet.
Quote: Zeamays
Mikhail, why are you so sure that your machine is not Chinese?
"Mechanical equipment manufactured by Robot Coupe is exported to over 80 countries worldwide."
Can a factory in Burgundy cope with such volumes?
Do you propose to open it and examine or take your word for it about China?
* The nameplates of the cutter and mixer indicate - made in France. On the boxes too.
The old Moulinex A-15 is the same, Made in France.
Kara
Mikhail, respect! Bravo! Carefully, regardless of the comments!
Zeamays
Quote: Michael
Do you offer to open and examine or take your word for it about China?
* The nameplates of the cutter and mixer indicate - made in France. On the boxes too.
The old Moulinex A-15 is the same, Made in France.

No, I don’t need to believe, I didn’t assert anything.
This is one of your selection criteria - just not China.
Quote: Michael
Brand China was not considered because other nuances may stink ...

But you raised such an interesting topic .... And I climbed into the Network to read for this Robot - wow! Half of the world has been captured, globalization rules.
Well, how can everyone satisfy without China?
Michael
Kara,
Thank you!

* I'll show you the meat grinder and, if interested, I'll tell you in the thread -
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...n=com_smf&topic=6745.1300
Miranda
I read what they wrote in a day.
Some kind of categorical auto-training.
Kara
And don't say Professional, I would say! Kashpirovsky is resting
LisaNeAlisa
Michael, comparison of non-top universal kitchen machine models with this processor ... well, bravo, in detail ...
Alas, I could not find where the wow effect was from ...
Michael
Quote: Zeamays
This is one of your selection criteria - just not China.
Maybe not expressed about China, or rather it was necessary to write -
- equipment not from Chinese manufacturers, but not equipment made in China.
For example, we have nothing against sneakers from the American company Brooks made in China, Vietnam. Excellent professional sneakers, my wife and I really like it.

Miranda
LisaNeAlisa, I would not compare the Chef Sense KVC 5000 (according to the stock with nozzles) with the induction 094/096, but that's another question.
Zeamays
Quote: Michael
Excellent professional sneakers, my wife and I really like it.
You love everything professional ...
Michael
Quote: LisaNeAlisa
Alas, I never found where the wow effect was from ...

There is nothing to compare the cutter with.
But there is a specific wow effect from a meat grinder and from a hand blender. In principle, enough for conclusions.

Quote: Zeamays
You love everything professional ...

Present
Zhanik
Quote: Miranda
I would not compare Chef Sense KVC 5000 (according to the stock with nozzles) with the induction 094/096, but that's another question.

absolutely sure! very different. From the word soFsem
tascha
I was puzzled by kneading minced meat with some machine. Kenwood is cool, of course, but the price is high for me. What other combine can you knead minced meat? To be inexpensive. Or is it necessary to start a tank on the table?
And further. Love the extra chopper (seems to be high speed) at kenwood (for coffee, nuts ...). Just for the sake of outlook, what volume does it have? Can he chop the onion finely? And the greens?
Anyone knows a separate grinding device with a capacity of 0.2 liters. So sane for onions and herbs?
Bijou
Quote: tascha
Or is it necessary to start a tank on the table?
I would like to.)) Do you need minced meat for sausages? Or just like that, for cutlets? The fact is that I somehow did not really like to knead the minced meat with an ordinary rare mixer "for batter." But flexi rubber is a completely different matter. Minced meat becomes dry, smooth and monolithic.

More or less small shredders are included with submersible blenders or even shredders themselves, with a motor in the lid. But you probably already know about such people.
Ninelle
Quote: tascha

I was puzzled by kneading minced meat with some machine. Kenwood is cool, of course, but the price is high for me. What other combine can you knead minced meat? To be inexpensive. Or is it necessary to start a tank on the table?
And further. Love the extra chopper (seems to be high speed) at kenwood (for coffee, nuts ...). Just for the sake of outlook, what volume does it have? Can he chop the onion finely? And the greens?
Anyone knows a separate grinding device with a capacity of 0.2 liters. So sane for onions and herbs?
Will you just knead the minced meat? Or dough too? Whisk the whites?
A tank is an extensible concept ... I had a Clathronic, now Bosch Maximum, Bosch is compact and a good chopper goes to it.You can knead the minced meat in the Bread Maker, if you have it (now I can't imagine myself without it .., although I've been baking bread for a long time, I started with the "hand" one), beat the whites with a hand blender with a "whisk" attachment, cut the greens with handles, etc. But if there is a tank, as you dubbed it, everything is much easier to do.
There are Bosches of smaller volume, and according to reviews, they are very good, and prices are more affordable.
tascha
Quote: Ninelle
Will you just knead the minced meat? Or dough too? Whisk the whites?
Yes, I need it for minced meat. I want to make ham, and then I have to knead it to the notorious white threads. Kenwood's K-shaped nozzle is very good. Bosch has a different one for this kind of kneading, some kind of flimsy-looking, but I'm just looking closely. If there is a mixer for the minced meat, then the dough for dumplings will be there, and shortbread.
Yes, I have a bread maker (Panasonic), but I doubt that it will withstand the minced meat, because even the dumplings dough according to the recipe in the instructions are not quite cool. you have to mix flour later. Even. if it does it once, it is still not designed for this.
I have two vegetable cutters: Zelmer with a drum - goes like a nozzle for a meat grinder and Philipps 1388 cuts vegetables well. There is a Brown blender submersible and with a capacity of 0.5 liters. + a whisk to it. For complete happiness, there is not enough minced meat and a small chopper, like Kenwood (for garlic, onions, herbs). Here.
Ninelle
tascha, I really feel sorry for the bread maker, and I wrote about this in the topic about my Clathronic. It's a revelation for me about Bosch's flimsy .. I can't say anything about the processor - I have two combines, a Berner vegetable cutter, and a blender with a bowl chopper, I'm not interested in them. Look Gastroragi, they are budget.
Rituslya
I get these white threads in the antediluvian Boshik 4-series. I do not knead with a crochet, of course, but such a nozzle with rods. So nothing flimsy.
I do everything in this small thing. I like the combine very much! My friend!
And I don't use the big Pretzel very often at all. Even rarely, one might say. He's so healthy.

About a month ago, I began to correct the rug for him, tried to lift and rearrange it, and he took my finger and pinched it. Come on ...

tascha
Quote: Rituslya
Pretzel
Is this Kenwood?
What number is Bosch?
Quote: Ninelle
I have two combines
what are the numbers?
Rituslya
Quote: tascha
What number is Bosch?
Bosch 4405.
I also bought a silicone nozzle for him and, in general, became a million times more Happy!
Miranda
Kenwood itself is not very big in my opinion.
On the table in width it took even a little less than Boshik's combine before. But the length will be more, but I had nothing in front of Boshik.

I have it like this | to Wall.

But for the price - great, yes.
And if the price does not fit, then there is no need to discuss Kesha, just worry and tease.

Boshik Mum is much cheaper, but on a computer universe it is even cheaper, or at the same price as Bosch, you can take Kesha there.
kuzashka
I choose a kitchen machine with a kneader function. According to availability, I stopped at Bosch. Of the available-Bosch MUM58252RU, unlike classmates, there is a cube cutter for French fries. But the question is, how does it cope with kneading a tough dough? My combine NPO ENERGIYA does not cope with this task, the rest suits me in Energiya too
Elena Bo
kuzashka, for noodles, I make a very cool durum dough from durum flour with Energy in 20 seconds with knives. But I do it for 1 egg. It turns out wonderful. If the test is not enough for me, then I launch several runs. It comes out very quickly in time.
kuzashka
Elena Bo, I began to try to bake bread according to recipes from this forum (about 350-500g of flour, the simplest ones, while I’m learning the basics) -the power of the Energy is not enough. The motor squeaks, the dough knocks into one lump and stops. For dumplings, I always manually kneaded, and for pancakes (about 0.5 liters of liquid), the dough swirls and pours over the edges.
Mirabel
Elena Bo, tell me, is your noodle dough small or lumpy?
kuzashka
in general, I bought a Bosch MUM58252RU today. Hope it doesn't let you down.
Admin
Quote: Mirabel
Do you get the dough for noodles tiny or lumpy?

If it crumbles and does not collect into a lump, add a little water.
After all, flour is different and takes liquid in different ways. And eggs are different in size, liquids. Where there is enough liquid for the dough, and where you need to add a little during kneading.

And it is also done manually, if the dough is not going, very steep, add a little liquid.
Elena Bo
Quote: Mirabel
Elena Bo, tell me, do you get the dough for noodles tiny or lumpy?
Lump. If there are not enough eggs, I add a few drops of water. I knead for a few more seconds with a combine and the dough turns out as needed - dense and smooth.
tascha
Which combines (bowl, whisk, hook and flexi) can beat 1 egg? Unfortunately, MUM 5 series cannot, I was told so in the next branch. Is it just Kenwood?
lovely80
tascha, I can’t ignore such offensive words about the mum. I’m mum of the 5th series, beats 1 egg without any problems. That's a bit tricky 1 egg whites took longer than usual. But I beat it for the meringue. I'm very happy with the mixer, I bought flexi. I make them all kinds of dough
LisaNeAlisa
tascha, kenwood whips exactly.
tascha
Quote: LisaNeAlisa
kenwood whips exactly.
Which one then? The one that Prosperro whips? It's kind of cheaper.
LisaNeAlisa
Quote: tascha

Which one then? The one that Prosperro whips? It's kind of cheaper.
I don't know about Prospero, I have 020 kmm.
As far as I remember, the prospero is a very old model and nozzles do not fit it ...
tascha
Tell me, to mix 1 kg of fache + onion and bread, what should be the bowl? 4 liters is enough?
Admin
Enough, and there will still be left to knead the minced meat freely
tuskarora
Girls, hello. I will ask you more. The installation is this: my thrush broke her arm, it's hard. She asks me to tell her some kind of kneader, or a processor, to churn out the oil until the hand heals. Well, for the test too. In addition to the function of a dough mixer, she does not need anything in it. But he wants something good. For money, 5-6 UAH thousand so.
Daffi
I have a Bosch MUM 4655, the power is 550 W. I knocked butter for them. Everything turned out very quickly and easily. This is a versatile food processor. They can make biscuit, shortbread, muffin, yeast and even dumplings. You can beat whites and eggs, make creams and mousses, and even knead bread dough.
A similar model (newer, judging by the model number) is in Comfi 🔗 and on the Rosette 🔗
tuskarora
Thank you. I went to see.
Mirabel
In search of a mini chopper grinder.
Owners, tell me, plz. Will a 250ml glass go? or better than 500ml? knives 2e, attached at different levels or better 4e-2 at each level.
tascha
Quote: Mirabel
Will a 250ml glass go?
and where did you find such a volume. As far as I know, Redmond has 250 ml, but there are difficulties with putting on the upper bowl.
I myself am looking for a chopper with a small volume to chop a bunch of parsley (as an example).
Mirabel
tascha, yes, I found it here. Send the newsletter by mail.
but it seems to me that it is too small, even for a bunch of parsley
🔗
tascha
Quote: Mirabel
🔗
there is no volume specified.
Personally, I also need my roomy Brown (even it sometimes requires a double load), but I also need a tiny chopper for a bunch of parsley, half an onion.
Mirabel
tascha, I found out its volume from another source, it is really quite small.
well, we don't even discuss the fact that both a large and a small shredder are needed. but it just might be more functional yet half-liter ...
Anak
Broke today SECOND! blender to your Bosch MUM4. Just some kind of ambush. I didn't even break it: the devil pulled the sauce from the stove in mashed potatoes to grind - my head is bad or is it not designed for this? Glass flask with the SIMAX brand.
I use a blender all the time, the main application is dough for pancakes, berries, breadcrumbs. Now in hard thoughts - whether to buy a new flask (at the price of almost half a combine), or an immersion blender. Alternatively, TEFAL 600 W (some kind of non-standard for Metro chips) or Braun.
Will the submersible handle pancakes and breadcrumbs? Should you chase the puree attachment? Now I make mashed potatoes in a food processor with a flat whisk, but I have to shift the potatoes - a whisk from a blender cannot cope with this task? (suppose, if you knead the potatoes a little with a fork beforehand)
Alisa05
Hello dear!)
I'm breaking my head over shopping, help! Otherwise I'll break it completely)))
The man in the house is wound up, has a sweet tooth, we need to feed him, and I realized that I didn’t have enough tools.
Want:
one.mixer (stationary with a thicket), but so that it can be removed and used as a manual one (I don't know exactly why I need this, but something tells me what will come in handy)
2. Planetary mixer
There is not much money, so you will have to make purchases in turn. Where do you recommend to start? (I have a large kitchen, there is a place for this and that, and there will still be. I will make creams and marshmallows on these things

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