Baking in DeLonghi BDM 125S

[Dentist]

And then you carry it to the Service Center, and there they say: “there are no details, you have to order, they will bring it in two months”.

Dentist, according to the law on consumer protection in the SC, they must either fix it in 21 days, or, with a longer repair, give you a similar product for temporary use, or completely replace your entire stove if repair is impossible

[Dentist]

Dentist, according to the law on consumer protection in the SC, they must either fix it in 21 days, or, with a longer repair, give you a similar product for temporary use, or completely replace your entire stove if repair is impossible

Uh huh huh. So I remember how the telly was repaired for us - 2 months (100 hertz block flew) and the radio tape recorder from the car - 1.5 months (the front panel burned out). All these parts were ordered somewhere very far away, and then they were taken for a very long time.
Maybe in Russia, they adhere to some laws, but in Ukraine, it's a complete mess.

... Maybe in Russia they adhere to some laws ...

No, this is an illusion. You can, of course, enforce laws in court, but this is long and troublesome.

in fact, in 90% of cases, a pre-trial claim is enough. they are too lazy to sue too

I join those who like to experiment in the kitchen! Today they brought home a new purchase (kenwood 256), now I sit and study the peculiarities of the recipe. True, I don't see the owners of Kenwood yet, more and more Panasonic ... Let's experiment!

After buying a bread machine, I can't look at store bread (especially loaves). Your bread turns out to be delicious.

I have the same picture in my family :)) only bread turns out not only tastier, but also more satisfying. You can just eat tea with a slice of bread in the morning and that's it)

I join those who like to experiment in the kitchen! Today they brought home a new purchase (kenwood 256), now I sit and study the peculiarities of the recipe. True, I don't see the owners of Kenwood yet, more and more Panasonic ... Let's experiment!

I don’t think the recipes will somehow depend on the HP brand. Therefore, feel free to choose from the proposed those that interest you. The only thing is more accurate with proportions. Your measuring cup may be completely different. Therefore, be sure to count.

in fact, in 90% of cases, a pre-trial claim is enough. they are too lazy to sue too

Do you think so or have practical experience?
Personally, I have experience. And not the only one. For me, in three cases out of three, the pre-trial claim did not bring the desired results. So, alas, only the court.
I hope it won't come to that in this case.

About the dispenser.
Did the other day I made Easter cake (test before Easter). The recipe is for chopped nuts. Loaded them into the dispenser. The results are as follows. First, some of the small fraction immediately woke up. Secondly, when opened, something still woke up past the bucket. How - I don't understand But the facts are on the face.

About the dispenser.
Did the other day I made Easter cake (test before Easter). The recipe is for chopped nuts. Loaded them into the dispenser. The results are as follows. First, some of the small fraction immediately woke up. Secondly, when opened, something still woke up past the bucket. How - I don't understand But the facts are on the face.

Before baking, I fall asleep in the dispenser, everything that is smaller than the holes in the dispenser goes into an empty bucket. I take out the bucket and empty it, during kneading after the dispenser has worked, I throw these residues back into the dough.
I have never thrown a bucket past me.Yes, and it is difficult for a dispenser to get past. And the contents were thrown by - where? Which side of the bucket is relative to the dispenser?

Before baking, I fall asleep in the dispenser, everything that is smaller than the holes in the dispenser goes into an empty bucket. I take out the bucket and empty it, during kneading after the dispenser has run out, I throw these residues back into the dough

But this is know-how, however. I only had enough to throw everything by the sound of the dispenser.

I have never thrown a bucket past me. Yes, and it is difficult for a dispenser to get past. And the contents were thrown by - where? Which side of the bucket is relative to the dispenser?

Not all content was abandoned, but only part. On the far side, behind the bucket, under the dispenser, under the lid hinges.

Well, either the dispenser with a higher speed for some reason leaned back, or the dispenser was wet, the nuts stuck to the walls, when the dispenser was triggered, in this case, they did not spill out freely, but continued the trajectory of the tray after it stopped / hit ...

At the same time, particles with a size close to the size of the slots in the dispenser probably flew past.
That is, the version is that the particles in a free state got stuck in the slots, and when triggered, due to acceleration when the dispenser rests on the opening limiter, they still slipped through.
Or maybe it is more and more commonplace: before the dispenser was triggered, the stove cover was opened, and small fractions at that very moment woke up through the cracks.

In short, there is only one conclusion - you must try not to put into the dispenser something that can fall through the ventilation holes in it. And why put this in there? As far as I understand (now theoretically), something should be put into the dispenser that should not be ground into small particles during mixing. If you put something small, then it is quite possible to fall asleep immediately with the ingredients of the dough.

Hello! Finally found people who have DeLonghi BDM 125 S.

I wanted to buy X / oven. I didn’t care. But I love raisin muffins (type: capital).
I read it on the Internet. turned out: we need an oven with a dispenser.
There are only 2 models: Panasonic and Delongue.
Panasonic rejected for 2 reasons:
1.Do not put sticky products, such as sbekon, and even chocolate in the dispenser (it will melt)
2. What is more important. to make a cupcake (taken from the instructions), you need to knead everything yourself in a separate container, and then pour it into the oven and make a cupcake. That is, the bread maker will have to be used only as an oven. Stupid.

And with DeLonghi there are other problems: no one sells in St. Petersburg. Funny, huh? (I'm interested in half a year) But today I found an office: (an online store) well, the guys are there with great oddities. And I'm afraid for problems with the warranty.

And why don't our stores buy this oven? The thought comes to mind that x / DeLonghi oven is really x. or Mr. as you like. Radiators with this brand are in every store.

But according to the description, in appearance - I really liked DeLonghi. all as he wanted.

HERE, I FINALLY FIND you - I was glad that at least a living person can be asked:
So:
1. according to what I wrote above: maybe I did not judge correctly when choosing?
2. For some reason, in breads in recipes that Panasonic and Delongi do not have ANY cupcake with raisins. Has anyone baked this? And am I and the author of the instructions for Panasonic right, that it is only suitable for baking a cake, and for kneading dough for a cake myself?
3. Concerned about health issues. Delongue bread is at least 750 grams. and I am alone, but a friend who does not eat bread. Bread is not so useful. And you can get fat. Or am I wrong?
4. If I bake bread, I want it with additives such as dried fruits, vegetables, etc. Pumpkins (for example) are larger and less flour. (for reasons of health). and in the recipes - there are additives - with a gulkin's nose. Has anyone tried to dump additives with a shaft, which would be less flour, and what came of it?

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, to everyone who answers on the merits. I am waiting and will prosmetrirovat messages, because if you buy so now (I am guided by Easter. Easter cake to do)

[SAPetrovich]

Yes and SAPetrovich condolence immeasurably, but of course you greatly upset me (
More precisely, your oven.Today I wanted to buy DeLonghi, but now I will wait for answers on the forum.

At the same time, particles with a size close to the size of the slots in the dispenser probably flew past.
That is, the version is that the particles in a free state got stuck in the slots, and when triggered, due to acceleration when the dispenser rests on the opening limiter, they still slipped through.

Most likely it is. Since I chopped it by hand (in the combine, it just turns out porridge), the sizes of the pieces are different.

In short, there is only one conclusion - you must try not to put into the dispenser something that can fall through the ventilation holes in it.

Exactly.

If you put something small, then it is quite possible to fall asleep immediately with the ingredients of the dough.

Here I will allow you to doubt. Not all of the ingredients are needed when mixing right away. On the contrary, if you remember the same cocoa.

[SAPetrovich]

1. according to what I wrote above: maybe I did not judge correctly when choosing?

In principle, everything is correct.

2. For some reason, in breads in recipes that Panasonic and Delongi do not have ANY cupcake with raisins. Has anyone baked this? And am I and the author of the instructions for Panasonic right, that it is only suitable for baking a cake, and for kneading dough for a cake myself?

I didn't have a cupcake (I sin on cocoa), but the cake with raisins and nuts turned out quite well.

3. Concerned about health issues. Delongue bread is at least 750 grams. and I am alone, but a friend who does not eat bread. Bread is not so useful. And you can get fat. Or am I wrong?

SAPetrovich gave a program and recipe for French bread. A small loaf is obtained, less than 500 grams.

4. If I bake bread, I want it with additives such as dried fruits, vegetables, etc. Pumpkins (for example) are larger and less flour. (for reasons of health). and in recipes - there are additives - with gulkin's nose. Has anyone tried to dump additives with a shaft, which would be less flour, and what came of it?

I won't tell you anything here. Tried making bread with mozzarella, delicious.

Thank you. And what is the size of the delongue's measuring cup? And I guess - dispenser = measuring cup or not?

And yet - everyone dissuades me: nah. (a decent word. ends with H) do they tell you a bread machine? I myself do not understand why, but I really want to, for some reason.
And I love cupcakes.
But you also upset me here that you did not succeed. Only I do not feel that I am smart: in my mind, a cupcake is something that MUST be with raisins. Here is how Stolichny in "Pyaterochka" (such a store). I really don't feel like putting cocoa in it or anything. The main thing is raisins and MORE (I'm serious)

And more about the Dispenser: will everything that has fallen out of it, will it be on top of the cupcake / roll, or will it be mixed? (I need more raisins inside.)

AND!!! laugh or not, but I like to use things not quite for their intended purpose. For example, in the dishwasher, I like to wash the kettle.

Maybe Delongi can do something? you can change programs. For example, boil rice porridge? (the question is that one loaf is enough for me for 2 weeks. And that the oven will simply take up space?)

Or maybe it is more and more commonplace: before the dispenser was triggered, the stove cover was opened, and small fractions at that very moment woke up through the cracks.

mmm .. but I think - why did I have a little poppy under the bucket .. I watched the batch and lifted the lid :)) thank you for the hint :))

[must be put in the dispenser]

Panasonic rejected for 2 reasons:
1.Do not put sticky products, such as sbekon, and even chocolate in the dispenser (it will melt)

I haven't tasted chocolate yet. But in the recipes for Panasonic 253 there is a recipe for marbled bread and it says that grated chocolate must be put in the dispenser.

2. What is more important. to make a cupcake (taken from the instructions), you need to knead everything yourself in a separate container, and then pour it into the oven and make a cupcake. That is, the bread maker will have to be used only as an oven. Silly.

just looked at the recipe for a cupcake. The fact is that eggs are first beaten there with softened butter.That, firstly, may not have a very good effect on the Teflon coating, and secondly, it is hardly advisable to use CP as a mixer. Further according to the recipe are the terms "whipping".

2. For some reason, in breads in recipes that Panasonic and Delongi do not have ANY cupcake with raisins. Has anyone baked this? And am I and the author of the instructions for Panasonic right, that it is only suitable for baking a cake, and for kneading dough for a cake myself?

I'm going to put the raisin cupcake right now. Later - I'll write what happened :)

4. If I bake bread, I want it with additives such as dried fruits, vegetables, etc. Pumpkins (for example) are larger and less flour. (for reasons of health). and in recipes - there are additives - with gulkin's nose. Has anyone tried to dump additives with a shaft, which would be less flour, and what came of it?

the term "shaft" is not very clear. I put a full dispenser of raisins and chopped dried apricots, almost half replaced the flour with flakes of various cereals and seeds.
But you need to know when to stop - you want to get bread and not pancakes or tortillas. You need to "fit" something.

[added 100 g of raisins]

I just took out a cupcake I made according to the recipe given in the instructions, only added 100 g of raisins... I baked it for 70 minutes, although the recipe needed 60. When I checked it with a match, it seemed to me that it was damp, but after 10 minutes I realized that it was so airy))

Wheat flour - 175 g
Sugar - 175 g
Butter - 175 g
Egg - 3 pieces
Cocoa powder - 2 tbsp l.
Baking powder - 1 1/2 tsp

1. Beat the softened butter with a mixer with sugar
2. Add eggs and beat again
3. Gradually add flour and baking powder. Knead quickly to a homogeneous dough. Add raisins.
4. Put 1/3 of the dough in a bowl and add cocoa, previously diluted with a small amount of water.
5. Lined with baking paper.
6. Put the dough into the mold - 2 tablespoons of white - 1 spoon of dark
7. Bake 60 minutes in the "Bake" mode.
Leave in the mold for 7-10 minutes, then cool on a rack

It turned out to be a very airy and beautiful cupcake)

1. Beat the softened butter with a mixer with sugar
2. Add eggs and beat againIt turned out to be a very airy and beautiful cupcake)

Thank you for telling in such detail, BUT WHY BUY SUCH AN EXPENSIVE DEVICE, so that you can do everything yourself?
I already made a cupcake with my own hands: It worked. But I don't want any more.
For this, you need an automatic machine to drop the ingredients and get the result. And that would be preserved Teflon - so let the manufacturer rack his brains. Otherwise, using the x / oven as an oven seems wasteful to me.

um ... Well, actually it's a bread maker. For bread - threw the ingredients and got bread. Aren't you surprised by the impossibility of making waffles in it ?? or grilled chicken .. or pancakes? And cupcake and jam are just extra features. Thanks for them)

Surprising, not surprising, it's not that important
I need to make muffins with a lot of raisins
Washing machine and refrigerator not suitable. The closest thing is a bread maker.
If she cannot do what I need, then the money will have to be kept with her.
For me bread is not so important, I eat little bread. that's why he asked about misuse.

the term "shaft" is not very clear. I put a full dispenser of raisins and chopped dried apricots, almost half replaced the flour with flakes of various cereals and seeds.
But you need to know when to stop - you want to get bread and not pancakes or tortillas. You need to "fit" something.

The term was understood correctly. I want everything and more, and even that would not turn out bread but a vegetable-milk or fruit product - even better.
I repeat, I don't eat much bread. a lot is not useful. But there are two of us. girlfriend eats even less than me? what to do with one loaf? But if something useful and tasty can be done, it's another matter

.. what you put on - it will mix and bake. I just can't answer your question exactly - I don't want to conduct such experiments. I liked what I did in it. People also made bricks. And they were very edible.

um ..Well, actually, it's a bread maker. For bread - threw the ingredients and got bread. Aren't you surprised by the impossibility of making waffles in it ?? or grilled chicken .. or pancakes? And cupcake and jam are just extra features. Thanks for them)

Korata completely agree with you.
Several times I tried to bake a cake in a bread maker, the result was not amazing. I really love cupcakes and I have many recipes for making them, but everything I did in the bread maker was much worse than the so-called oven ones. Well, firstly, the cupcakes turn out to be small, and secondly, the shape is not typical for the cupcake (I do it in a shape with a hole in the middle - the aesthetics always bake well). Also, you cannot make muffins with a high content of butter (like a muffin), since they simply do not have time to bake.

I think if you have already kneaded the cake by hand, then there is no point in baking it in a bread maker. Of all the ovens that I have come across, only DeLonghi kneads and bakes the cake itself, although the cake from this oven I have not tried and I can not judge its taste.

In any case, it seems to me that buying a bread maker because of the cake is not advisable. However, if you do buy it, homemade bread, I think, will delight you and half 750g. loaves, will be swept away even warm (as experience shows, because we also ate little bread before). In any case, it's up to you. I wish to make a worthy decision, and later not regret the purchase.

[only DeLonghi kneads and bakes the cupcake herself]

Of all the ovens that I have come across, only DeLonghi kneads and bakes the cake itself, although the cake from this oven I have not tried and I cannot judge its taste.

In any case, it seems to me that buying a bread maker because of the cake is not advisable. However, if you do buy it, homemade bread, I think, will delight you and half 750g. loaves, will be swept away still warm

That is why I dismissed Panasonic and became interested in delongues, and also because there you can make recipes yourself.
Are you talking about "only DeLonghi kneads and bakes the cupcake herself"read the instructions? or heard from the user (I read the instructions, but the instructions are somehow afraid to believe, in this case.)

And as for the amount of bread consumed, I don’t eat it because I don’t like it. I really love bread, but I CARE about my health, that's why I limit myself.
Don't you care about such questions? Or is it just me "dull"?

[only DeLonghi kneads and bakes the cupcake herself]

And as for the amount of bread consumed, I don’t eat it because I don’t like it. I really love bread, but I CARE about my health, that's why I limit myself.
Don't you care about such questions? Or is it just me "dull"?

Well, if we talk about health, it's better to eat homemade bread than store-bought bread. The current producers put SUCH in bread (from various economically profitable purposes), which is just brr ... And their own bread, at all the same nature. product. Plus, homemade bread can be baked with a low content of wheat flour (use: rye, buckwheat, oatmeal, corn, rice flour) and even completely without yeast (you can grow yeast-free sourdough). So everything is in your hands. Make your bread as healthy and tasty as possible and minimum in calories.
Also, of course, it is not necessary to quickly eat a loaf, because homemade bread is stored 2-3 times longer and is better than store bread, plus it can be stored in the refrigerator or even frozen.

Are you talking about "only DeLonghi kneads and bakes the cupcake herself"read the instructions? or heard from the user (I read the instructions, but the instructions are somehow afraid to believe, in this case.)

I read the instructions, visually seeing the oven in the store. A Exhumer, as the owner of this stove, also confirmed this function (see above), I think he can be trusted, he gives the impression of an honest person

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Delogni can actually knead the cake dough herself.
However, my couple of experiments with making a cupcake in delongue have resulted in an underwhelming result. Alas, I really think that the bread maker is exactly breadstove. Cupcakes are certainly possible, but it is rather from hopelessness.For example, I just do not have an oven due to the small area of ​​the kitchen. True, I use a convection oven.
In short, my opinion: If you are primarily interested in baking muffins, then you should not spend money on a bread maker.

And what is the size of the delongue's measuring cup? And I guess - dispenser = measuring cup or not?

A glass of 240 ml of water, or 60 g of flour. And how it relates to the dispenser - I don't know, I didn't measure it.

But you also upset me here that you did not succeed. Only I do not feel that I am smart: in my mind, a cupcake is something that MUST be with raisins.

You can buy a semi-finished product in a bag, put it in the oven (according to the recipe) and it will do it in its best possible way. I haven't done it myself yet, but I want to try it one of these days. In general, there are plans to make an "honest" cake.

And more about the Dispenser: will everything that has fallen out of it, will it be on top of the cupcake / roll, or will it be mixed? (I need more raisins inside.)

The dispenser is triggered at the end of the second batch. Everything will be evenly mixed inside.

For example, in the dishwasher, I like to wash the kettle.

Quite as intended. I’m in the dishwasher.

About the dispenser.
Did the other day I made cake (test before Easter). Chopped nuts are used according to the recipe. Loaded them into the dispenser. The results are as follows. Firstly, some of the small fraction immediately woke up. Secondly, when opened, something still woke up past the bucket. How - I do not understand But the facts are on the face.

And I thought it was only Panasonica's trouble. Sometimes my supplements wake up too. And these are pretty big pieces like raisins.
The first couple of times, naturally, they burned and there was a corresponding smell. I had to turn off the stove and get the coals and then bake them separately.
Now, after the dispenser has been triggered, when the kneading stops, I check if anything has woken up and, if necessary, take out the bucket and remove the pieces that have fallen out.
The automation of the process is certainly lost, but what to do ... I don't really like the smell of burnt ...

And I thought it was only Panasonica's trouble. Sometimes my supplements wake up too. And these are pretty big pieces like raisins.
...

Well, in delongues, this can only happen with small additives, those that are smaller than the size of the ventilation holes (~ 1-2 mm).

Weighed it on the scales several times. 1 cup - 160 g flour. Well, plus or minus 5 g, which will not really affect. But, by the way, the instructions say that it is advisable to weigh the flour. I'm weighing. Even the process of measuring flour with a scale is much more convenient. There is no need to shake the glass, remove the "slide" from it, etc. Pour yourself directly from the bag into the weighing pan (through a sieve). So I recommend it to everyone.
And the blade of the mixer does not jump off the axis either. Pour boiling water over if plain water doesn't work. Should come off. It is better not to lubricate with oil, but just wipe the rod thoroughly, and scrape out the hole in the blade with a brush (while it is hot and sour). I do this once a week somewhere ...
The recipes in the instructions, I already wrote in another topic, are a little crooked for large loaves. I have counted some basic recipes and use these calculations. The best ratio for a large roll is 430 ml of water / 750 g of flour.

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Want to buy, what's the difference in terms of health benefits / harms between bread and cake? If you tend to eat fewer carbohydrates, then in a cupcake and bread they are the same amount. Even the cupcake has more, because there is more sugar. If you are afraid of bread yeast, their harm is completely unproven fact ... Moreover, it is far-fetched IMHO ...
Anyway ... why rape yourself ?! If you really love bread - eat it to your health !!! Restraining yourself, constantly denying yourself pleasure, that is, in fact, being constantly in a state of stress, you cause much more harm to your health than 2 slices of fresh, aromatic bread can do!

Well, I still eat cupcakes. And when you seize what you put: and your soul is calmer.
And about two slices, so here you read how delicious it comes out, and you understand that you can't do with two slices

I cannot say that I suffer without bread, because I eat it, just not as much as I would fit. That's why I buy half of the bread in the store, or even a quarter. And then immediately - 750 grams. On me, but on the beauty who does not eat bread at all.
How to deal with it (750 grams)? me this for 2 weeks. Even if you freeze. And I want to change the assortment (during these 2 weeks)

So I was interested in what can be done so useful, so that I can eat and not think that I ate a lot and it is harmful.

About stress: it's all true. But the formula was not applied, how can one get rid of these thoughts?

How to deal with it (750 grams)? me this for 2 weeks. Even if you freeze. And I want to change the assortment (during these 2 weeks)

On the oven under discussion, with a certain skill, you can, in my opinion, bake any weight of bread. The recipe proposed here for D has been adjusted to reduce weight, and, instead of a half-kilogram bread, it turned out to be about 300 grams. You can probably bake something for a couple of slices ...

I wish I could take the skill somewhere else

I ordered the 125 dellonghi stove. On the trail. week should deliver. So I will also be a baker. take into your ranks

I don't know what to bake a simple one, what exactly would come of it. But always with raisins.
Any advice?

Was in gastranome and could not resist - bought yeast in advance: Saf Moment and Royal Yeast (KRON JAST).
SAF is expensive though. 8p50 kopecks For one kg of flour.

Congratulations on joining our ranks!
Well, the recipe for raisins. Since the stove will be delivered to you in a week, it will be just in time for Easter .... So try to bake a cake.
250 ml warm milk
2 eggs
20-30 grams of melted butter
620 g flour
7 tbsp. tablespoons of sugar
0.7 tsp salt
1 + 3/4 tsp yeast
Pour milk, butter into a mold (I usually pour milk into a cup, throw pieces of butter there - and in the microwave for a minute). Beat the eggs with sugar and pour into the mold too. Then pour the flour, from above into the hole - yeast, and salt where-thread in the corner, so that it does not touch the yeast .... Well, and a COMPLETE DISPENSER OF RAISINS !!! you can add more nuts. And in the sweet pastry mode
I am sure you will LOVE it!

Thank you, everything sounds so appetizing, even though you are heading to Crimea, I will have time there and back.
I understand you when you wrote that you didn’t want to buy from the internet store. Waiting for delivery is such a flour

And why the mixture in the microwave? I don't have a microwave.

And what happens if you don't beat the eggs with sugar, but pour it out? Painfully I'm lazy.

I chose delongues to ... work only on eating.

And here are some more questions:
Has anyone been confused about kneading dough for oatmeal cookies? And then how to bake it, if this is possible?

And yet, has anyone tried to make "Karelian bread"

SAF is expensive though. 8p50 kopecks For one kg of flour.

Well, you got it somewhere by pull, for such and such a price. I, in Moscow, buy at 5-6-50. Not more expensive.

This "Moment" is for baking. Maybe this is more expensive?

[Want to buy]

Want to buy
I put milk and butter in the microwave to warm it up to a temperature of 35-40 degrees. The same can be done in a saucepan on the stove. I did not try to heat it, I can not vouch for the result. I didn’t try to beat eggs either (however, I don’t beat them too much, so, stir with sugar until omelet consistency and that's it). Try everything exactly according to the recipe for the first time, and then experiment.
Good luck!

This "Moment" is for baking. Maybe this is more expensive?

For muffins, of course, more expensive, but this is only for sweet pastries. Not for every day.

[Want to buy]

Want to buy
I put milk and butter in the microwave to warm it up to a temperature of 35-40 degrees. The same can be done in a saucepan on the stove. I did not try to heat it, I can not vouch for the result.

So there is also a pre-heating function in the stove, just up to 30-35 degrees, you will not overheat. Or is it absolutely necessary to pour flour with ingredients into warm milk?

The recipe said "warm milk". So I obediently and warm up. Moreover, this process takes 1 minute in the microwave. If there is no microwave, it is quite possible to warm it in the oven. But there is no preheating in the Delongy Sweet Pastry program. It doesn't bother me at all to put a cup of milk and butter in the microwave. At this time, I am just measuring the flour. In general, I think it is quite possible to do without heating. But I'm used to heating in the microwave. But the temperature of the milk is unlikely to play such a big role, especially since it heats up during kneading. However, it’s a habit !!!

And I still sit without a stove. promised to bring back on Wednesday. But the car did not come from Moscow. And now they promised tomorrow. on Friday. The shop is closed on Saturday. so if they don’t bring it in, or if it’s late, then I’ll be left without Easter cake.
Kind souls, pray for me that I would be on Easter with my cake from Delonghi. And then only my prayer is apparently not enough

Good afternoon, Bakeries!

Recently I was presented with a bread maker and I immediately went for groceries. First, I decided to make banana bread from whole grain flour. I could not find such flour and decided to do the same from the usual one.

Recipe:
3/4 cup water
3 cups flour - Nordic
1/2 cup chopped bananas
1 yolk
1/2 teaspoon vanillin
3 teaspoons honey
1 teaspoon salt
1 1/2 tablespoons butter - poured sunflower
1 1/2 teaspoons Dried Yeast - Preston
2 teaspoons of poppy seeds

Baked in whole grain bread mode. The bread is heavy, the dough does not rise well, the crust is very hard.

I thought that probably the problem was that the flour was ordinary, but the recipe for whole grain and decided to make sweet banana bread.

Recipe:
3/4 cup milk
3 cups bread flour - took another flour
3/8 cup bananas
1 yolk
1 teaspoon salt
2 tablespoons sugar
1 1/2 tablespoons butter - took sunflower again
1 1/2 teaspoons dry yeast - Preston again

The dough was very dry, but rolled into a lump. The dough did not rise at all, it was impossible to eat a bun, even balls of dry yeast came across, which practically did not dissolve. I threw it away.

I decided that the problem was in yeast and bought SAF-Moment yeast, although Preston had a normal shelf life.
I read that it is better to sift flour and put salt away from yeast. I decided to make the most ordinary bread.

Recipe:
1 1/8 cups water
3 cups flour - Nordic again
1 teaspoon salt
2 tablespoons sugar
1 1/2 tablespoons oil
1 1/2 tablespoons milk powder
1 1/2 teaspoons dry yeast - SAF-Moment.

He measured everything meticulously accurately with the help of a measuring cup and a spoon that came with the bread maker. I chilled the water as instructed.

The dough rose again very badly, the crust is thick and thick, the "bubbles" in the bread are very small, the loaf is heavy and small.

I was almost desperate to get anything edible ...

I have the following suspicions:
The yeast was bad both times, although I bought it in different places.

Flour should be put in less than in the recipe, since I first measure it, then sift it.

It may be worth taking not sunflower oil, but vegetable oil or even butter.

Can you please tell me what could be the problem? (bread maker Hitachi HB-C103)

Control the dough while kneading. After about 10 min. after the start of the kneading, a bun should form. rolling on the bucket does not stick to the walls.
If not, the dough is thin, gradually add flour. By the end of the batch, there should be no batter under the mixer.
If the dough is steep, add water gradually as well. You need to be more careful with water, because it interferes worse.
As a result, the dough should be slightly sticky, but not sticky to the fingers.

[2 tablespoons butter]

In the recipe book for HITACHI, butter is used almost everywhere (except in my opinion one recipe).
Your sweet bread recipe is no exception:
1 cup fresh milk
2 egg yolks
1/2 cup ripe bananas (chopped)
4 cups bread flour
2 teaspoons of salt
2 tablespoons butter
1 1/2 teaspoon dry yeast
Sift flour before measuring.
All recipes from this book are great for me! Difficulties arise when I try to make Panasonic bread.

Thanks a lot, with butter the dough rises, the loaf is soft.
Only now the crust is still hard, and for some reason now the top of the bread has "sagged".
Is the top sagging due to a small amount of flour (well, or a lot of water)?

I had the same story with egg bread (but not from a book to the stove, and the recipe was taken here on the forum). Here is a link to my experience and there is also a commentary to it.
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in..._smf&Itemid=26&topic=87.0