Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (3)

[Wit]

Wit, washing has nothing to do with it. The epoxy was formed during baking. When she took out the bread, it was already too late to rush about. The jam is still liquid, and there this method is suitable, maybe.

I'm talking about jam, not pastries!

Hello!
Tell me, are there any functional differences, except for the yeast dispenser, in models 2511 and 2512? Do they have the same programs? (I found conflicting information on the Internet). It's still more reliable to find out here :-)

[Tanya Vladimirovna]

Tanya Vladimirovna, I can answer by 2511.

[$ vetLana]

$ vetLana, is there a rye bread program in it?

[Tanya Vladimirovna]

Tanya Vladimirovna, there is.

[$ vetLana]

$ vetLana, Thank you!

Girls, hello everyone! Can you please tell me if the buckets in 256 and 2501 (2502) are the same? Thank you in advance!

[Teddy bear]

Teddy bear, Tatiana, the boys answer. Buckets are different. In 2501 (2502), another bucket for fastening, the volume is the same. 🔗

Thank you very much to the boy !!!

Greetings to all members of the forum! Today I became the proud owner of 2502, but I wanted to know how the kneaders sit on the shaft (the instructions say: put the kneader tightly on the shaft), but for me they dangle both vertically and horizontally - is this normal or a marriage? I am afraid to start mastering this miracle.

[Rudy]

Rudy,

is this normal or marriage

Fine.

[Rudy]

Rudy, everything is fine! The translators were too clever with the translation. There must be a backlash! It is even patented by the Japanese .. The kneading then starts without a dangerous jerk of the engine. So you are fine with the stove. I congratulate you on your purchase and wish you successful and delicious bread!

Ufff !!!! Thank you for the very quick answers, congratulations and wishes.

I decided to measure the power from Panasonic SD 2501

* multiply the values ​​from the kWh column by your electricity cost per kWh and find out the cost of electricity costs.

If we take the recipe for white bread according to program 1, then we see the cost price as of 06.06.2016:

What do we see? The main amortization goes to 1) flour 2) yeast (bought in 100g bags from "Saf-Levyur", as the least harmful) 3) vegetable oil. If we compare in terms of prices with the production one, then it comes out at the moment 06/06/2016 by 16.3% cheaper than the cheapest "social" store (the price was taken from the Vesta-SA MO chain of stores). Maybe for someone, the price benefit is not visible, but in terms of taste characteristics, homemade surpasses analogs from stores (and there, after all, all the loaves / loaves from yesterday are made)
Compared with breads normal to taste (wheat or even more rye), it comes out much cheaper.

* Our tariff for electricity during the day is 3.69 rubles. and at night 1.25 rubles. and 5p per cube of cold water (06/06/2016).

[Moofiepie]

Moofiepie, Nothing is visible, make it larger and put it on the radical for example.

[Moofiepie]

Moofiepie, I can see everything, but clarification is required. In my opinion, the work is not finished.

[Andrew (Amasar)]

For those in the tank - I also recently got out of there thanks to Andrew (Amasar)
"Warm" rise of dough in Panasonic service mode, that is, proofing for a long time at a tena temperature of about 35 degrees
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=394126.0

there is for all models, only the inclusion is different. There, in the subject, I added for 253 and 254-257, and the inclusion for 2501 acts on 2500, 2502, 2511, 2512

[fffuntic]

fffuntic, The heating element is controlled not by the temperature of the heating element itself, but by the temperature sensor on the HP wall.
For management, the so-called. PWM method (googling), in which the ratio of the on-pause durations is varied in order to maintain the desired average... Therefore, the consumed HP per clock "included" power is always at its maximum. And the temperature most The heating element at the end of such cycles can exceed a hundred degrees. On the beats "turned off" the power is zero, and the stove cools down.
The same method is used in almost all other household appliances: microwave ovens, electric stoves, multicooker, dryers, irons, and even (with reservations) in dimmers for the brightness of light bulbs.

Hello everybody! Quite unexpectedly for myself, I wanted a bread maker ☺, somehow I immediately liked Panasonic, I read you and I understand that I was not mistaken in my choice. Theoretically, I chose 2501, but when I began to look in my city, it turned out that there were practically none, and if there is, then at a price more expensive than 2511 ... the question arose: maybe the 2501 model is somehow still better than newer 2511? I understand that you, most of them are already super-specialists in baking, some nuances do not matter, but I would like a consistently good result on the main automatic programs (I also do not relieve myself of responsibility for the result, of course, but knowing myself, to masterpieces on sourdough, etc. is unlikely to comeой). What do you say, which one would you take?

Panasonic, he is Panasonic in Africa, and in Siberia ...
I have 2501, but I think there are few fundamental differences. It seems that in 2511 there is also Low-yeast bread. So, it won't get any worse!

I have a 2500 model and I am very happy with it. At one time, I also chose, read a lot of reviews and made a choice on the simplest model. There is no regime for rye bread, I bake it in the oven, knead HP. But according to reviews and in those models that have this program, it is far from always possible.

I have 2511. I bake mostly rye bread. For example, this. It turns out great!

I tried it several times with different recipes. The roof collapses or does not work well at all. And I tried it on different programs. Sorry for the food, I scored everything and bake in the oven

[nata1]

nata1, Natalya take 2511. Low-yeast - excellent mode. Rye also does not hurt. Both modes are in demand for me. Even cheaper!

I tried it several times with different recipes. The roof collapses or does not work well at all.

And I succeed. Also 2500. Even here I exhibited a photo. That was a long time ago. But! There is a small nuance: I took the ready-made mixture for the bread maker in "Lenta". And so, I'm not a fan of rye. I bake 350 g wheat +150 g rye. Always.

[gala10]

Ha!!! From the ready-made mixture, to which you only need to add water and vegetable oil, I also get gorgeous bread.
But there are a lot of additives! all the times "E" !!! poked around.
And I want a still-product. With minimal chemical content

Added Saturday 11 Jun 2016 03:19 PM

gala10, So

For example, this one. It turns out great!

So the same recipe for the oven.

Thanks to everyone who responded! I wanted to choose a simpler model, but now we have only 2511 and 2512 on sale, 2501 somewhere I came across one at a price more expensive than 2511 ... bakes in 2501, everyone who tries it turns out great, then a newbie with model 2511 appears in the recipe topic and complains that it didn't work out, and he is "sent" to read the "kolobok rule" and generally practice ☺ So I thought: maybe eat in 2511 some functional differences that complicate ... Okay, I'll give myself another night to think, tomorrow the last. day 11 - discounted model can be purchased for 10.8 t. rub.

then a newbie appears

If a beginner, then something may not work out (and even then it is unlikely). Start baking with simple recipes from the book to Panasonic, you will understand what the right kolobok is and get involved

And be sure to buy electronic kitchen scales immediately with a bread maker. Inaccurate amounts of ingredients are the most common cause of poor bread.
You can, of course, measure it out with a glass, but liquid and salt-sugar are easier. But measuring flour with a glass is problematic. After all, it can be filled tightly. Or it can be loose. And this is a completely different weight.
And the rest will come very quickly with experience.

Ha!!! From the ready-made mixture, to which you only need to add water and vegetable oil, I also get gorgeous bread.
But there are a lot of additives! all kinds of "E" !!! poked around.

So instead of "ha" it was necessary to read the text with the composition on the box. THERE IS NO CHEMISTRY! And just according to the recipe.

Natalya, without looking at that Panasik model, there are more programs. Programs that are common with other models will be absolutely identical.2511 is definitely better than 2501 due to two additional programs.
You will be able to automatically cook more with two good programs than those with 2501.
In terms of management, all the updated Panasonic models are identical and similar, koloboks are formed in the same way. The buckets are identical, the mixer is of the same shape. Common programs are the same.
The assembly for Russia is also one. There is no reason to give up a brand new model.

I would have doubted it is better in 2512, which has a yeast dispenser, because this is a stray that opens all the time on programs, already an amateur.

Added Saturday 11 Jun 2016 5:30 pm

So instead of "ha" it was necessary to read the text with the composition on the box. THERE IS NO CHEMISTRY! And just according to the recipe.

Often people, even harmless E are frightened, although they are necessary and safe.

THERE IS NO CHEMISTRY! And just according to the recipe

The box is different. There were packages thrown away as unnecessary. Of course, I don't remember the composition and additives now. But! Most importantly, that bread from the bag tasted fake. For the last 3-4 years I hardly buy bread in the store, so I can tell by taste that something is not right there. I didn't like him, in a word, his is tastier

Box box discord

Then you got a bad box, but I got a normal one. The bread was delicious. The box is different. Flour too. And there is nothing to argue about. Stop talk about this!

Stop talk about this!

Agree.
You live in the "northern capital", and I "in the center of Europe" (f ...... py). We go to different stores and buy from different manufacturers. What are we arguing about?

Exactly!

And my dispenser is broken !!!!! well, that unlock-lock-on-off thing.
Vital, I can see your red-haired mordulence (you won't be offended, I know !!!). What should I do?
You know, my husband offered me to steal a dispenser with HP in the store !!! It was right the other day when I saw my 2501 on sale ...

Irochka, spit on this pribluda. I bake bread very well without him. And I specially took the stove without him and I don't regret it.

🔗

[Wit]

Witwhat a handsome man you are! AND muzzle face is so happy ... is everything okay?

I bake bread very well without him.

Vital, I also bake beautifully without him! Apparently tore on the Easter cakes. It’s just that it’s even into a stupor - at what minute (hour) to throw additives in the form of raisins, dried apricots, seeds. I somehow did not bother, I knew that my smart girl would intervene in time. Well, I love my all such baked goods with additives ... Sesame, for example, I throw right away. He somehow does not permeate. Small, apparently. And the last time my dates were ground like this ... the bread turned out to be brown, interspersed.

It was just that it became a stupor - at what minute (hour) to throw supplements

Five to six minutes before the end of the batch.
there is a sign here
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...04691.0

Unfortunately, it is only for "winter" time, that is, the temperature in the room is up to 26 degrees and therefore with minimal preliminary standing.
For summer reduced modes, it will be necessary to move in hot weather.

at what minute (hour) to throw additives in the form of raisins, dried apricots, seeds.

If program 03 Basic with raisins, then the display should be 3:08, and if 06 Diet with raisins, then 3:43.
I always have a printout at hand, like a memo and not because I'm so smart

tomorrow the last day 11 - discounted model can be purchased for 10.8 t. rub.

If my sixth year as Cinderella working 256th Panasonic suddenly broke, then for such a price I wouldn't even turn my head towards the new 11th. Would have missed it without hesitation. I would take a cheaper non-branded one. Because now I believe that now I will be able to find a key to any HP. Indeed, in automatic mode, I bake no more than every tenth of my breads on HP. The machine is boring to me.

[intensive daily]

Indeed, in automatic mode, I bake no more than every tenth of my breads on HP. The machine is boring to me.

Choose hp for intensive daily use without accessing the service for years, and even with good quality baking function and programming - the task is complex, completely unrealizable today. If you use it infrequently and carefully, then it is much easier, and if often, you have to choose: either programming and running around, at best, once a year in the service, or trouble-free use, but only with auto-programs, that is, sometimes with a combination of programs, alas

Added Sunday, Jun 12, 2016 01:29 AM

Panasik has this "the sixth year as Cinderella working 256th Panasonic", worth a lot. And the automatic programs are very well thought-out, slow. If you take any !!! notprogrammable stove, then there is no one even to put next.

Well, the programmable ones are all flimsy in terms of operation, although in terms of functionality they are very, very attractive. But the cost of spare parts and communication with the service is not enthusiastic.

Soon 2 years, like mine 2501. I always bake in automatic mode, almost always - on a delay. Mode - basic, medium size. But I play with flour. The ratios are different: premium wheat 300 grams, 100 whole grain, 100 rye (or buckwheat, corn, oat). If there is wheat of 2 varieties - also there. Additives: dried dill, dried bell pepper, sesame seeds. The amount of yeast in the main mode has long been reduced by 2 times.
I started to read the topic about the bun, did not finish. I don't follow the process, and the bread is always handsome!
Panasik 2501 is a cool thing!

[differences]

...
Panasik 2501 is a cool thing!

all Panasonic models practically do not differ in the quality of baking, if the copy is not defective.
I have an old model 253, which I changed to 2501 due to the presence of the Italian regime
I can say with confidence that Panasonic has made cosmetic changes in the general programs of the updated model. There was a choice of a crust in the diabetic, well, the batch in 2501 was more interesting to observe, in places the stirrer movements are more elegant.
BUT principled differences in bread i not noticed. Both the old and the new are the same in terms of operation, the taste of bread, the general programs are completely identical, and they are also not disconnected from the network with a button.
Therefore, the model is better - where there are more programs

I like this flour, only I had 1 grade.

[Wit]

WitHere again ... The red cat :-) :-) :-) :-) came to us to try some bread ...
Having managed two Red Sims and Foxes - both love bread, especially with sourdough, especially rye! And yours? :-) :-) :-)

I also had 2501 ... at that moment it was available on Yulmart, but after reading it, I decided that there was NO difference. Panasonic, there is Panasonic ... I already read Temka then ... and bought it, and happily use it for the second year, pah ... pah ... pah.
I'm very happy!

Semi-off. Yesterday's pizza.