Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (3)

I here in "Magnet" took flour from the Tver flour mill. What a gorgeous flour, and the bread is so fluffy.

I only use it, I switched it long ago, it will definitely be 4 years old

Hello everybody!
Yesterday I baked two white bread, one for myself, the other for my sister. dairy today. just recently took it out. it looks so beautiful, and the smell, mmmmmmm) will soon taste.

Hello everyone from China! A grandson was born in June. I came here to help the children. I wrote that bread is inedible here. Thanks Irina and Talia for the tips. The daughter-in-law ordered good flour, yeast and baking dishes on the Internet. Now I bake bread even in a small oven. Of course, after the bread machine, kneading bread with your hands is difficult and unusual, but real. Here's what happens


It seems that this bread is even tastier - maybe because it is far from home.

Hello everyone from China! A grandson was born in June. I came here to help the children. I wrote that bread is inedible here. Thanks Irina and Talia for the tips. ...
It seems that this bread is even tastier - maybe because it is far from home.

To your health !!! Such bread is beautiful and appetizing
Or maybe it seems tastier against the background of all the rest of the food, because even if it's tasty, it's still not that.

[Tamar]

Tamar, congratulations on the birth of your grandson! May the healthy grow and please parents, grandparents and the whole world!

It's good that we solved the problem with food - wherever we are, the dishes of their national cuisine keep us for who we are. And bread, mixed with hands, too. Few dishes absorb and then give as much of our emotions, sensations, attitude to life as bread.

Irina and Talia, thank you very much for your support and your kind comments !!!
Thank you very much for your congratulations !!! Very nice.

here the bread is inedible. I ordered good flour, yeast and baking dishes on the Internet.
It seems that this bread is even tastier - maybe because it is far from home.

Duc through the handles it is impossible not to put a soul. Know you are a real man. And with the bread maker too, you cook, think what you think about ... Good luck.

Duc through the handles it is impossible not to put a soul. Know you are a real man. And with the bread maker too, you cook, think what you think about ... Good luck.

Valentine, thanks for the kind words!

Friends, tell me, please, how to make yeast dough for pies in Panas-2500. On the porogram I made pizza according to the recipe from the book, I did not like it - it was very dense, does not rise well, not fluffy pies.

[Glowing1986]

Glowing1986 , in 2500 Dough Main mode (12 program). The dough is wonderful. I always do it on it.

What recipe do you use?

For the mood In the Baking section there are many dough recipes, I use different ones. For pies I love this recipe:

https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...ion=com_smf&topic=18396.0
I just knead everything on the Dough mode in HP (Scarecrow forgive me)

why is the density of the test related to the program? As for me, this is due to the recipe and products. I knead dough like "unforgettable Khrushchev's" on pizza - it turns out just fine.

why is the density of the test related to the program? As for me, this is due to the recipe and products. I knead dough like "unforgettable Khrushchev" on pizza - it turns out just fine.

Can I have a recipe for this test?

https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=112415.0 here is "Unforgettable Khrushchevskoe",
and here is a closer version to mine, here are some comments about storage in a refrigerator
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=952.0

Mom's recipe is a little different (I'll post it as a separate recipe later.):

500 g flour
0.75 stack milk (180-200 ml)
1-1.5 Art. l. mayonnaise
120-150 g butter
1/3 tsp salt (1 / 2-2 / 3 measured teaspoon from Panasonic)
1.5 tbsp. l. sugar (ordinary kitchen spoons, I take 3 spoons)
15-20 g fresh yeast
2-3 eggs

I will not write the recipe, as I wrote it down - the dough was prepared by hand. And the products have changed a little. I write as I do myself.

Comments: Since real mayonnaise is not sold now, but itself consists of yolks, rast. butter and mustard, I just use 1/2 teaspoon of real cooked mustard and half or 1 tbsp. l. oils. You can take some mustard powder, but I don't know how much. The spoons in the recipe were ordinary kitchen spoons, so both salt and sugar were measured "with a little bit" (peas without fanaticism). According to my mother's sugar recipe, 1.5 tbsp. l., but not enough for me, so I take 3. According to the recipe, the eggs are separated, the yolks are beaten with sugar, the whites and salt. The proteins are added after the dough, leftover flour, and yolks are mixed. The oil needs to be softened, I quite often take butter and refined sunflower (or corn) oil in fairly arbitrary proportions.

Dissolve yeast in a small amount of warm milk from 1 tbsp. l. sugar, let stand for 5-10 minutes to "revive".
Half flour + milk + mustard + 1 tbsp. l. butter (or without) = stir until smooth, add revived yeast, cover with a napkin, allow to rise.
Or you can put everything in a bucket at once and knead on a "pizza" for 10 minutes. Reset the program and leave everything in the bread maker.

When the dough rises (or maybe something like that starts to fall off), add 2 eggs (2-3 depending on the size), salt, sugar, the remaining flour. Knead on "pizza", when the dough has already formed, stir in the butter. Here you have to stand over the stove, because oil needs to be added a little at a time, otherwise the stove will spray it. When the dough is smooth, you can let it stand and come up a little. I take out the dough, divide it into pieces of 33-35 grams, I can roll them out with a small rolling pin, I can spread them with my hand. I shape the pies, put them on a baking sheet with a pinch down, let them proof for half an hour, grease them with an egg, put them in the oven.

please tell me why the roof of the bread bursts like this
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This is wheat bread on eternal rye sourdough, the French mode, but I also got such a roof with yeast wheat breads - it grows, grows and then cracks around the perimeter

Hello dear bakers! I bought PANASONIK 2500. I bake according to recipes from the instructions, so far everything is great. I'm afraid to experiment for now, but I want to try baking with live pressed yeast, and I have a little question for you. If the recipe contains 1 teaspoon of dry yeast, HOW MUCH DO YOU NEED TO PRESS? In defense of this model, I want to say that I did not notice any noise, no plastic smell, or other nasty things. only positive emotions The absence of a dispenser and a rye bread program does not bother at all (we do not really like it) I bake bran buns in the oven and everyone is happy. Now I knead all the dough only in a bread maker. (and for cookies too) And I try to handle the bucket very carefully. (

Lyusik, everything is very simple. For every 100 grams of wheat flour, we usually take 1.5-2 grams of live yeast. That is, we take 7-10 grams of yeast for a loaf of 500 g flour. I sometimes take six, just like the bread thicker.

Pavlenko, feeling that there is a little lack of liquid in the dough. Try to make the bun a little softer.

Hello Rina! Thank you for your prompt reply. Tomorrow I will buy live yeast and do as you suggested. Your site is very interesting and informative. I learned a lot, although I have been using baked goods for a long time and the dough I almost always came out successfully. In addition to the bread maker, I have a PANASONIK multicooker and a yogurt maker. And here are so many proven good recipes !!! Good luck and the best!

Lusik, if not a secret, where are you from?

I'm from Novosibirsk. Or rather from Akademgorodok. I'm new here, but I dared to dialogue.

I'm from Novosibirsk.Or rather from Akademgorodok. I'm new here, but I dared to dialogue.

Hello Sibiryachka! Greetings! We were all new once. And the rolls used to be not immediately given on the avatar, but they wrote "young baker". Although, many were as "young" in bread as you are.

[Rina]

Rina, thanks for the recipe! I'll try to bake it!
Does this dough make better baked pies or fried?

Lusik , good evening, countrywoman! and I'm just looking at Panas ... And I'm racking my brains whether it's worth overpaying a thousand for a dispenser and rye bread, which I'm used to baking in the oven .. Wait, I'll send you drugs!

[Light]

Light, baked pies. Mom seemed to cook fried, but then you need less sugar so as not to burn. And I like baked ones with a sweetish dough.

Thank you girls for your kind words and support.

And the rolls used to be not immediately given on the avatar, but they wrote "young baker". Although, many were as "young" in breads as you are.

uuuuu .... Am I so ancient ??? I remember those times ... More recently, the other day, I noticed that these signatures were gone !!!

Girls, poke my nose, please, where to read about the differences between 2500 and 2501? I can't find something ... How critical is the difference?

in 2501 there is a "rye" program, a stirrer-comb (seemingly for this program) and a dispenser for automatically adding candied raisins in the corresponding programs.

In 2500 there is no "rye" program, but this can be bypassed by using other programs. And add raisins manually by the "green whistle" - a sound signal.

Girls, poke my nose, please, where to read about the differences between 2500 and 2501? I cannot find something ... How critical is the difference?

I have 2501. The spatula-comb is in the cupboard, I have used the dispenser two or three times in almost two years. : girl_dance: Now I wouldn't bother. And then I bought only a share. (I don't remember which one.)
PS. I bake rye bread either on the Main Program, or Rinin, but just knead on Pizza, proofing without anything and Baking. Or in the oven.

[Rina]

Rina, oh, thank you very much !!!
The only difference is that?
... only I eat rye, the family loves white! So I bake rye in the oven! We will survive without a rye blade ...
... on the previous HP there was a dispenser, it bothered me, the loaf kept trying to rest against it, because it stopped closing!
... I don't add raisins to baked goods - my daughter does not tolerate it (although she does eat grapes!).
Total: you can take 2500 and not rack your brains!

the main thing is that it should be exactly the same as the 2501 that I now have - I borrowed it from friends for a week to understand if I needed this brand, baked two breads according to different recipes, made dough.

General impressions:
pros
1. The stove is "quiet". I did not put my previous one at night, because even in the back room I could hear her kneading, finishing the cycle. For the first time in Panas I put the bread and was right there in the kitchen ... The TV was talking very quietly in the background, the stove was on leveling, and I still could not wait for the cycle to start ... there was still no kneading ... Periodically glanced on the display ... in the next "glance" I noticed that HP is shaking, but is silent !!! I was scared, the stove is someone else's! I open the lid, and she kneads !!! SILENCE !!! (I’m having dinner with my husband yesterday, the TV is just talking, HP is standing next to us, I have already adapted to her and therefore noticed the batch, but my husband never heard ...)
2. The quality of baking is excellent! The bread turns out to be high, well baked, with a wonderful crust, even the top one!
3. A solid bucket. I hope it will last a long time ... (Are there no problems with oil seals?)

minuses
1. of course - equalizing the temperature, but thanks to the advice I have already learned to deceive it - I ventilate the kitchen or put a bag from the freezer.
2. dimensions. It is necessary to have a place so that the cabinet, shelf, etc. do not hang from above ... because otherwise the lid cannot be opened! Problematic!
3. short cord.

According to reviews, Panasonic "requires" more yeast than other ovens. In fact, I didn't notice, it seemed to me that it was even less!
Two "minuses" pale in front of two weighty "pluses". Conclusion: SHOULD TAKE!

Ha! It turns out that I have been on the forum for five years and two weeks! This means that I have a bread maker for a couple of weeks longer!

So, over the years I have used the dispenser a few times (with fingers on one hand), but I will not refuse this gadget. What if the reins fall under my tail and I decide to bake a loaf of raisins! (by the way, and this is an idea - I want the Dnieper, and the oven is not hot to drive). Fortunately, the dispenser in Panas works ONLY in the modes "with raisins".
Light, with the features of your family listed by you, it really does not make sense to overpay.

[marinastom]

marinastom
Thank you!
I feel, and I will have the same song!

[Rina]

Rina
for the sake of interest and I looked at myself - 4 years and almost a month!

... I think in the case of baking raisin rolls, I'll sprinkle it by hand!

Yes, and I would not advise cheating the stove, the Japanese are not fools. In any case, the program will last for the same time. But it may well stand the dough in the heat.

I've learned to use alignment to suit my needs.

I knead half the flour, half the water and yeast on the "pizza" for 10 minutes, then reset the program, add the rest of the products and set the "main". For an hour of leveling, the yeast has time to be well activated, the starch of the flour swells, and gluten develops. And sometimes I put the "main" with a delay of one to four. You will get sponge bread. Try it!

[Rina]

Rinathanks for the experience! I'll try!
I remembered one more "+" and "-", wait I will add to my previous post! Suddenly, it will help someone to make a choice ...

There is a solid bucket by the stove. I hope it will last a long time ... Are there no problems with oil seals? How does experience show?

I feel, and I will have the same song!

And my daughter does not eat raisins, but grapes - for a sweet soul! So what, Light, again

Oh! And how I rejoice at my happiness, the acquisition of HP !!! Sometimes we talk with the toad about: "and why there was 2501 to buy, it would have cost 2500! ...". But only sometimes! My assistant has been working for a month and a half, and I'm still not overjoyed at her. Clever girl! Beauty! activist, Komsomol member The son, who has a musical ear, found a tremendous rhythm when she kneads. He likes these sounds so much !!!

[Irishka CH]

And my daughter does not eat raisins, but grapes - for a sweet soul! So what, Light, again

had fun !!!
... and I thought my one was like that! even from chocolate manages to pick a handful of it!

Irishka CH , and I schizeya bastard, how I like the batch! Scratches itself quietly!

... and I thought my one was like that! even from chocolate manages to pick a handful of it!

Shchaz !!! My child is 20 years old, and does not eat most of the products and all sorts of goodies. Including raisins! And here, get rid of here, invent something so that it is tasty and your son does not take offense! (and accordingly he loves chocolate without any additives!)

And I do not regret at all that I took it with the dispenser. I usually put the bread at night. Therefore, if you suddenly want to add something, then you do not need to guard. My husband and I unanimously decided that instead of raisins, it is much tastier to add dried cranberries. And the aroma of what I add sesame seeds to white bread is also very inspiring.

By the way, about the dispenser. I have long wanted to ask ... Now, explain to me, such a village sucker, when he does his job and clicks, will this lid, or rather the folding bottom, come back? Or should it be snapped back itself? I've been wondering how does it work? If it does not close back, the loaf will simply rest against it! Sorry if I asked the stupidest question ... I just haven't used this gadget yet.

had fun !!!
... and I thought my one was like that! even from chocolate manages to pick a handful of it!

And mine also doesn't eat nuts. Picks out even from candies. There are delicious and beautiful German candies: a cup of toffee, inside a whole hazelnut filled with milk chocolate, and on top of it is a circle of dark chocolate. How she eats them a sight still

The dispenser does not close itself, when I take out the bread, I close it. But if you are worried whether the bread will stick or not, then it is possible to close it "in the process", after it has worked.

By the way, about the dispenser. I have long wanted to ask ... Now, explain to me, such a village sucker, when he does his job and clicks, will this lid, or rather the folding bottom, come back? Or should it be snapped back itself? I've been wondering how does it work? If it does not close back, the loaf will simply rest against it! Sorry if I asked the stupidest question ... I just haven't used this gadget yet.

Irish, it also depends on what size you will bake bread. I always only bake M, so in my practice there has never been a "stop". But I hardly used the dispenser either. And then, I have it too independent, everything strives to open at the wrong time.
I bajus him.

And mine also doesn't eat nuts. Picks out even from sweets. There are delicious and beautiful German sweets: a cup of toffee, inside a whole hazelnut filled with milk chocolate, and on top of it is a circle of dark chocolate. How she eats them a sight still

In-in! all the chocolate will lick, hands in melted chocolate, scarecrow, and nothing more! (no offense to Chuchelka ...)
And after all, a healthy girl is already, and everything is like a child!

Girls, and if the dispenser does not close itself, then the excess heat leaves through it! Yes?

Girls, and if the dispenser does not close itself, then the excess heat goes through it! Yes?

Heat loss is minimal, the lid closes quite tightly. There have never been any problems with bread due to the use of a dispenser. True, I also have the latest model, it bakes better than the previous Panasonic with a dispenser, I don't remember how his model was there, 275 or something. But I also changed the country, a difference in products is possible. Recently, I generally began to bake bread with honey instead of sugar and salt, I put 2 times less. The bread turns out ... different, tastier, more interesting.

Recently, I generally began to bake bread with honey instead of sugar and salt, I put 2 times less. The bread turns out ... different, tastier, more interesting.

Can you tell me the proportion? 1 measuring cup of sugar = 1 measuring cup of honey? So?

I also love honey in bread. Only I have it thick and it is difficult for me to accurately weigh and measure it. Most often "by eye".

I also love honey in bread. Only I have it thick and it is difficult for me to accurately weigh and measure it. Most often "by eye".

Duc to melt it - a couple of seconds in MV

My first WHOLE GRAIN BREAD! The crust is crispy, little crumbles when cut. The smell of wheat is very pleasant and the taste, although not familiar, but not bad. Baking exactly according to the recipe from the instructions. I added milk instead of water. Gingerbread man corrected it a little while kneading, Then at the end she moved it to the center and smoothed it with her hand.

Duc to melt it - a couple of seconds in MV

I'm not very friendly with her. I only have it since the New Year, but something is not too much in demand. And it's a pity to spoil honey. Although, of course, you can select a jar purely for baking. Thank you, kind man!