Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (3)

And it is better to cook jam in another device, and use ours for its intended purpose.

: nea: Somehow unconvincingly explained why "... it's better to cook in another device ..."... A wonderful and tasty jam is obtained. And there is no need to stick out with a spoon over the stove. Then he poured some water, stand a bucket with it and there will be no trace of the syrup-jam-sugar.

[Lagri]

Marina, I support!

Argument, please Lagri, Your support.

: nea: Somehow unconvincingly explained why "... it's better to cook in another device ..."... A wonderful and tasty jam is obtained. And there is no need to stick out with a spoon over the stove. Then he poured some water, stand a bucket with it and there will be no trace of the syrup-jam-sugar.

I took a chance, cooked strawberry, but so that the sugar would not scratch the coating of the mold, I first melted the syrup over the fire and then poured it into cotton. After cooking, as always, I filled the mold with water with the addition of dish detergent. Everything went fine. Confused only by the amount of jam and the time spent on such a volume. I had 10 kg. and only 600 grams can be put into a mold, so the rest of the quantity was cooked in the traditional way over the fire.

Everything went fine.

As for the jam, it is understandable, a lot of time spent, when a small amount of goodies comes out. What's wrong with the cupcakes? Why is it better to mix it somewhere else?

As for the jam, it is understandable, a lot of time spent, when a small amount of goodies comes out. What's wrong with the cupcakes? Why is it better to mix somewhere else?

Here is the instruction. Read page 18. #
Kneading a cake in a mixer does not bother me: minutes. But you have to get a handle on baking. It's easy too. Good luck to you!

Thank you, I found it! I read it. Why not do a built in kneading function ... can't get in the way ...

Thank you, I found it! I read it. Why not do a built-in kneading function ... can't get in the way ...

The instructions say that the cake will burn without baking paper. I didn't risk it. Knead the cake dough separately - a few minutes.

As for the jam, it is understandable, a lot of time spent, when a small amount of goodies comes out. What's wrong with the cupcakes? Why is it better to mix it somewhere else?

The bread maker is designed for yeast dough. If the cake is made with yeast (and there are such recipes), then why not? It's just that, as a rule, the muffins go on baking powder and the dough is not thick - this is an extra hassle to do in HP. It is easier to make it by hand or with a mixer, and you can bake it in KhP.

Clear. I still adhere to the recommendations in the instructions)) And don't you tell me, in comparison with the 2500, 2501 and 2502 bread makers it is written that 2502 does not have a function for memorizing the program in case of a power failure, is it?

Thank you very much for answering my "stupid" questions: rose: It's just that the price of these devices is not small at all.

Thank you very much for answering my "stupid" questions: rose: It's just that the price of these devices is not small at all.

So you yourself answered which HP to buy. I haven't read the 2502nd instruction, but I doubt that there is no memorization function there. Most likely in comparison, they messed up.
I read instruction 2502. Nonsense, as I expected. In the event of a power failure up to 10 min. everything remains

Clear. I still adhere to the recommendations in the instructions)) And do not tell me, in comparison with the 2500, 2501 and 2502 bread makers it is written that 2502 does not have a function for memorizing the program in case of a power failure, is it?

Where did you read this? I have big doubts about the veracity of this information ... Do all Panasonic stoves have them, but the most expensive ones do not?
If the price matters to you, then take 2500. The simplest and cheapest, no worse than the others. How many of those raisin rolls will you bake? Here I have a dispenser with HP, and I have used it for almost 4 years just a couple of times. After all, you can also manually throw raisins on a HP signal. Or do you definitely want to bake with raisins at night? There, with the dispenser, sometimes hindrances happen: either it stuck and did not open on time, or on the contrary, everything spontaneously fell out of time (not with me, but I read such stories).

https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...sk=view&id=843&Itemid=207 here looked at the comparison. But in 2500 no rye regime. Or I'm wrong again. We eat rye, multigrain and with raisins too. And often enough. 2 kids and their bread very much))

https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...sk=view&id=843&Itemid=207 here looked at the comparison. But in 2500 no rye regime. Or I'm wrong again. We eat rye, multigrain and with raisins too. And often enough. 2 kids and their bread very much))

Someone was very clever.


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Power Failure Memory (min) 10
And this means that 10 minutes applies to all three models. Otherwise it would be like this:




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Power failure memory (min) - 10 -
Perfectly baked and rye at 2500. Read tips on how to do it. And I have to go to work early tomorrow. If you have any more questions, please contact us, but I will answer only tomorrow. And our other bakers will not leave you without help.
Good luck to you!

Thank you! It can be seen already late and I did not carefully read the comparison, I really need to look at everything with a fresh mind tomorrow))

But in 2500 no rye regime. Or I'm wrong again. We eat rye, multigrain and with raisins too. And often enough. 2 kids and their bread very much))

Rye with a small amount of wheat flour (like Darnitsky) can be baked perfectly in the main mode.

[Lagri]

Argument, please Lagri, Your support.

I Masha submenu, while the night in the South Urals.

Confused only by the amount of jam and the time spent on such a volume. I had 10 kg. and only 600 grams can be put into the mold, so the rest of the quantity was cooked in the traditional way over the fire.

- this is the first BUT.
The second is more serious, but less frequent. I already wrote that in the previous oven (Mulinex), my jam leaked through the shafts of the mixers inside. A bit, but enough for a large repair crap. Thank God, it was still under warranty.
Since then, "I'm not a rider here anymore" ...

Hello Irina 86. Perhaps my little experience in baking will help you. HP Panasonic 2501 has been with us since March. We bake all the time, we like it very much, we don't buy bread in the store. They took this precisely because of the RYE regime. As far as I know, according to the instructions, 2500 does not bake rye. Of course, you can adapt and there are different recipes, but it's more pleasant for me when everything is automatic and according to instructions. We have jam on an industrial scale - the stove will not cope. And as for the dispenser, we sometimes use it, but in principle, everything can be thrown by hand, it doesn’t seem much needed. You decide.

... The second is more serious, but less frequent. I already wrote that in the previous oven (Mulinex), my jam leaked through the shafts of the mixers inside. A bit, but enough for a large repair crap. Thank God, it was still under warranty.

This is an exceptional case - marriage. I first pour liquid into my stove, and then I fill in everything else and everything is fine, it mixes much better. And the option with jam leakage is generally
I have a model 2500. Rye bread is baked perfectly: kneading in the "Dough" mode, raising without a program and baking in the "Baking" mode. I bake gray bread in the main mode.
But sometimes you want a fresh roll for breakfast and more often than once in half a year. But even if without raisins, or pour it into flour, the program for the bun is not set on the timer. So I put simple bread at night, otherwise I bake it during the day without a timer.
In general, the presence of a dispenser with a timer and a rye mode is everything. The choice is yours Irina. What is more important for you: I fell asleep at any time and pulled out the finished product - the stove did EVERYTHING BY ITSELF or savings in the form of a difference in cost. Remember, you don't buy a stove for a month or even a year.
There is also a nuance, the stoves are produced in two versions: for Europe and for Asia.Probably you can easily identify visually, but I have not seen, I have a European woman, bought at the place of residence. The differences between them are in the availability of programs and the attached recipe. There are 25 programs in the European oven including "Italian", "Sandwich" (special sandwich bread) and "Pastry". But in the Asian stove there is a "Pelmeni" mode.

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Clear. I still adhere to the recommendations in the instructions)) And do not tell me, in comparison with the 2500, 2501 and 2502 bread makers it is written that 2502 does not have a function for memorizing the program in case of a power failure, is it?

Disconnect regularly his if you are not satisfied with the rise, up to 29 minutes-program DOES NOT CLEAR, turned off for 31 minutes - dropped

Oooh, difficult choice. I will definitely not take 2500 because of the lack of a mixer for rye bread. Why overload the motor ... But my choice is difficult between 2501 and 2502 ((the fact that metal is more of a hassle with its cleanliness, children smear the coffee maker so with their fingers that I wipe it every day ... Programs are important to me. European is more impressed here , because we eat more varieties of bread than dumplings)) But where can I buy it, I want it now ((And we are planning to go to Europe in August, and then not quite to Europe, you won't find it in tourist places ... But you can't buy it at the airport) exactly))

Yeah, thanks, calmed down! So he remembers))

Oooh, difficult choice. I will definitely not take 2500 because of the lack of a mixer for rye bread. Why overload the motor ...

The motor is not overloaded. I always use one stirrer. At first, always for wheat bread, because it was just too lazy to change them. Over time, the stirrer peeled off and the bread began to stick to it. I replaced the stirrer with a rye comb and now I use only it. There is no difference.

In my opinion the 2501 is a great choice! And he will cook rye bread in the morning, and throw raisins into a sweet roll. Recently I again cooked cherry jam in my 2500th - I filled one liter and one 750 ml cans from one bucket (I do not read the instructions, I did not know that to cook so much nizya). Nothing should leak. The sugar should not scratch the bottom, because, firstly, mixing begins after a couple of tens of minutes, when the berries with sugar have warmed up and everything has melted, and secondly, the gap between the mixer and the bottom is sufficient for grains to slip under it.

... Over time, the stirrer peeled off and the bread began to stick to it ...

How did it peel off ??? There is such a serious coverage. Maybe the care is wrong or someone washed very hard, using illegal methods, in your absence?

My bread maker has been for so many years ... And only the stirrer has peeled off, and even then not all of it, but it has shaken from the bottom, but nevertheless it began to stick.
I worked for 5 years with a scapula, almost every day and more than once. And for two years now with a comb.

This is an exceptional case - marriage. I first pour liquid into my stove, and then I fill in everything else and everything is fine, it mixes much better. And the option with jam leakage is generally

Natasha, I'm very happy for you with the stove. God grant that everything will continue to be OK! But, "he who is forewarned is armed."
PS. And about jam and Rina wrote somehow.
I repeat, I do not insist on my opinion. It's up to everyone to decide.

My husband ordered 2502, the price difference was less than 1000. Well, I decided to give it to me, although I liked both and honestly no matter what to buy. I hope the bread maker will delight me and my loved ones with delicious bread. And so that no breakdowns.

Natasha, I'm very happy for you with the stove. God grant that everything will continue to be OK! But, "he who is forewarned is armed."
PS. And about jam and Rina wrote somehow.
I repeat, I do not insist on my opinion. It's up to everyone to decide.

Marin, I am also happy for us. If it starts flowing, it will not be my problem, because first pouring liquid is the husband's supply. He knows for sure that this loading order provides promes and I was convinced myself, having tried it several times. I still like this option because I do not jump around the stove every time: "How did it get mixed up there, is it neat?" Because I like to make the crust look perfect, without puffs of impurities or flour. I DO NOT AGITATE ANYONE. Well, then, if something happens, then he will buy me a new HP
We do not cook jam on an "industrial" scale, but cook a little to feast on

When my husband bought me this oven, they didn’t know ANYTHING yet and he bought it according to the principle “you don’t need the most expensive - you need a good one”. So at 2500 I do not have enough timer Very happy I loaded the ingredients - I pulled out the finished bread, saves time. Yes, night baking is even better for me, because no one walks around, does not open the door and does not breathe. My oven is in a passable place, which means in a draft. Everyone knows that yeast dough does not like draft. Alas, there is no other place. I always get better night bread.

My husband ordered 2502, the price difference was less than 1000. Well, I decided to give it to me, although I liked both and honestly no matter what to buy. I hope the bread maker will delight me and my loved ones with delicious bread. And so that no breakdowns.

Congratulations and good luck to you !!!

So at 2500 I miss the timer

: o What do you mean "... at 2500 I miss the timer ..." ?! And that they put it to me by mistake? I almost always put it at night. Even you say something wrong

Congratulations and good luck to you !!!

Thank you! I hope it meets my expectations))

In what order to lay food, whether to use a bread maker as a jam maker is everyone's business. But knowing the dubious points is highly desirable. I will repeat my thoughts one more time. Let them be at the level of a housewife.

In ordinary baking, the liquid from the dough, when laid according to the instructions, practically does not pass along the shaft. Even when laying upside down, pure (or relatively clean) water gets onto the shaft. The temperature on the shaft is not higher than 30 degrees, well, it may be a little hotter, but there is no such aggressive hot liquid, which is a sugar solution. The lubricant that should be on the shaft in minimal quantities (I think that a fluoroplastic gasket still requires lubrication) does not melt or collapse under the influence of slightly warm water.

Hot sugar syrup, by definition, has different properties than water. Whether you like it or not, it will penetrate capillary along the shaft, mixing or replacing the native shaft lubricant. And when the syrup cools down, we get a viscous or even solid substance. Remember also that sugar is easily caramelized and burns out, leaving the carbon in solid form. There are enough baking temperatures for this.

In general, I do not subject the bucket to such extreme tests. Even with such a gentle mode, for three and a half years (this is how much the second bucket works for me) I had to apply grease to the shaft a couple of times, but I did without disassembly (the grease was applied according to the same capillary principle).

In addition, the bucket is made of some sort of aluminum alloy. It is almost impossible to avoid damage to the coating. And aluminum and fruit acids are not very good friends.

Still, it is better to use a bread maker for its intended purpose - to bake bread, and jam can be cooked in a saucepan, according to a recipe from a book.

at the beginning of using the bread maker, I cooked cherry jam in it. What can I say - it seems both tasty and easy (put it in, turned it on, forgot it before the signal, poured it into a jar). If not for one more thing that came to light during storage - jam from a bread machine would spoil more easily. The verdict was as follows: the option is interesting if you make jam "for the table" from frozen fruits, but not as a preparation. And since my jam is just a blank, then this function is not in demand either.

Ir, and bread in HP are baked for the table Logically, the modes "Jam" and "Compote" are the same for the table. What's more, so that in 3 days the maximum was eaten the shob ne disappeared Just as in the northern regions, they can only in the northern regions, and our equipment is made by the southerners
We need to do it in the Soviet way: check everything for endurance and use it to the maximum. I often catch myself doing this, especially recently, when they began to do everything only for the warranty period and anyhow

[Waist]

Waist, I'm sorry, but how can a draft (through what?) affect baking in a bread maker? I drove my own onto the balcony, in the same place the laundry is drying, the windows are open so that it dries faster (it's still blowing!) - everything is fine (there is a photo on the previous pages). I would advise you to look at the voltage in the outlet - it is usually higher at night, and therefore in the morning the loaf is more beautiful. For a year now I have been connecting the HP through a voltage stabilizer, the jokes with light and low breads have stopped.

Rina, well, I cannot agree with the fact that the syrup has such a low surface tension that it, like kerosene, penetrates everywhere

: o What do you mean "... at 2500 I miss the timer ..." ?! And that they put it to me by mistake? I almost always put it at night. Even you say something wrong

Vital, I understand that the speech is about not putting bread with additives at night. I can’t either, although I have 2501. I couldn’t pull the spring in the dispenser enough, as you and Lena advised me.
Damn. It seems like a smart device Aypad, but why the hell does he rule for me? I am writing a spring - I replaced it with a spring, a dispenser with a dispensary. And who among us is the fool after that?

In my opinion the 2501 is a great choice! And he will cook rye bread in the morning, and throw raisins into a sweet roll. Recently I again cooked cherry jam in my 2500th - I filled one liter and one 750 ml cans from one bucket (I do not read the instructions, I did not know that to cook so much nizya). Nothing should leak. The sugar should not scratch the bottom, because, firstly, mixing begins after a couple of tens of minutes, when the berries with sugar have warmed up and everything has melted, and secondly, the gap between the mixer and the bottom is sufficient for grains to slip under it.

The volume is provided so that all the viscous mass would be stirred, it mixes more, but not completely, it is not very important for compote, but for jam it is important

My husband ordered 2502, the price difference was less than 1000. Well, I decided to give it to me, although I liked both and honestly no matter what to buy. I hope the bread maker will delight me and my loved ones with delicious bread. And so that no breakdowns.

Irina, metal for 2502 is special, I don't wipe it at all. But Hajiya is a coffee maker, I really constantly rub from stains. I support the choice, I am very pleased with the "assistant". For all the time I have never failed.

Irina, metal for 2502 is special, I don't wipe it at all. But the Gadzhia coffee maker, I really constantly rub from stains. I support the choice, I am very pleased with the "assistant". For all the time I have never failed.

Thank you all very much for your help in choosing! I'm waiting for the evening, I will test))

[Rina]

Rina, well, I cannot agree with the fact that the syrup has such a low surface tension that it, like kerosene, penetrates everywhere
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Marin, I agree with Irina, water and natural syrup are different things, and the lubricant probably has an organic basis (food industry).

: o What do you mean "... at 2500 I miss the timer ..." ?! And that they put it to me by mistake? I almost always put it at night. Even you say something wrong

Vitalik, I meant baked goods with raisins when you want a fresh, still warm bun for breakfast. And in other modes, the timer is of course

Vitalik, I meant baked goods with raisins when you want a fresh, still warm bun for breakfast. And in other modes, the timer is of course

Ahh, clear.

Hello dear bakers.
For several days now, as far as my free time allows, I have been in the process of choosing a bread machine.
Initially, I wanted programmable to bake sourdough bread, but they convinced me that it was not worth it, and in Panasonic everything should work out.
Now it remains to decide on the model, choose between 2501 and 2502. In the second, I like the stainless steel case, I like this technique outwardly.
But what about the functionality? Is she really more "able" than 2501? or can you not overpay?
I understand that this question has already been asked, but unfortunately I do not have the opportunity to read the whole topic, and I have to check in here in order to receive notifications ...

It seems like a smart device Aypad, but why the hell does he rule for me? I am writing a spring - I replaced it with a spring, a dispenser with a dispensary. And who among us is the fool after that?

Ham this device! Climbs out of place, ...: spiteful: bastard. Disable this option and he will shut up. I turned it off, but by typing.

I understand that this question has already been asked,

And no further than yesterday and here.
I chose the same for a long time and chose not exactly what you are. I chose 2500! ... And I am very pleased. The owners of the 2501st and 2502nd are also satisfied. And the fact that dispensers are buggy and rumble is the little things in life. Well, it happens that the scallop-blade also bends. So this is also garbage: you can straighten it. And if at the same time it breaks (silumin everything!), Then you can finally throw it away and interfere with the normal one. So, as Marinochka from Murom wrote above, "... As for the rest, beautiful marquise, everything is fine, everything is fine! ..."

[Wit]

Wit, and at 2500 the blade does not bend?)
I stopped at these two models for the rye bread program

[Rina]

Hot sugar syrup, by definition, has different properties than water. Whether you like it or not, it will penetrate capillary along the shaft, I had to apply grease to the shaft a couple of times, but it was done without disassembly (the grease was applied according to the same capillary principle).

It is difficult to hurt me with capillary syrup, but here's the lubricant ...! Rina, pzhalsta, you can learn more !!! What kind of lubricant? I did not find it in the instructions. They do not specifically write that they would carry it to the service. Or just sunflower oil?