AlenaDS
googled, thanks! At first I was delighted, I thought I would take some pampering in an outlet or in a photo. Liberton LAG-05HDF, Very scared by the reviews, 80% negative .....
Giraffe
Quote: AlenaDS

and not from hallogenic. My friend spat on ves -ovskiy today. I went to take it, not even two weeks have passed.

We do not have a rich choice, but I am happy with my ves as a tank. And more than one year.
Grypana
Quote: AlenaDS

googled, thanks! At first I was delighted, I thought I would take some pampering in an outlet or in a photo. Liberton LAG-05HDF, Very scared by the reviews, 80% negative .....

It's a real deal. There are enough reviews everywhere. It's just that that model has everything like Brand ... And three speeds too, and ten.
albina1966
Quote: Grypana

In the voice of Alice Freundlich from "Office Romance": Is it so, is it
: nea: Nope, Natal, this is the voice of A. Myagkov spoke.
Grypana
I agree, but I'm more Alisa Freundlich, in the sense of a deUshka.
albina1966
Quote: Grypana

I agree, but I'm more Alisa Freundlich, in the sense of a deUshka.
And I 🔗
Shelena
Quote: Vichka

And I won't buy Hotter anymore even with a discount
Vika, why are you doing it so? What are you guilty of?
I was happy with mine. Until ... it burned out.
Vichka
Quote: Shelena

Vika, why are you doing it so? What are you guilty of?
I was happy with mine. Until ... it burned out.
Lena, I used to love him too ... but after the acquisition of Brand, which is almost an analogue, but twice cheaper, even more (I bought Hotter for 11t. rubles), my love passed, because Brand is also more convenient in programs.
AlenaDS
oh, and I support Vichka! When there is something and that, a person knows better. And cheaper. That's for sure! I still cannot afford two models at once. Here on the weekend my husband will break through the conductors. If it does, we will order a brand.
Shelena
Vika, Now it is clear! I really thought that you found something seditious in Hotter (although I read your testing, recipes). His price is undeservedly overstated.
We love our Brandik too (and for the price too).
AlenaDS
girls, this is what I found 🔗 Aeroogril Maestro 761 can take, try? Indulge in. Nowhere is there anything on it ... learn from it, or something ...
Grypana
Alena, if you erase the name from all AG similar, of a similar type, design, etc., then it's all the same. Trust me. You can go to any store and touch, compare, see. Glass basins fit a tube into a tube, a white head with two handles-twists is the same. Take any, and you will be happy. They all have a self-cleaning function declared. In fact, you set 70 degrees, pour water, it will be like getting wet, and if you don't pour water, you can dry the greens. One spinner - temperature, the second spinner - time. That's the whole process. I have the same AG as on the link, only called Liberton
Here it is, mine

Convection oven: model selection, advice, reviews (2)

Alena, in Auchan, in Eldorado AG is at ridiculous prices. In Foxtrot, however, with a halogen, Delphi for 300 with a tail UAH. From all AG you will squeak ... at first, and then, as you fall in love, then buy something more beautiful thread

@ irina @
Girls! I'm with a question. I thought for a long time, choosing AG. I did not find anything with the heating element, except for Supra and Weight 777. Today I bought Weight. I threw in the chicken, the AG is heating, but somehow it seems to me not very intense. At the beginning of work, the ten is heating up (this can be seen), and then the HEAT indicator turns on and off, but the ten does not turn red. And yet, as I understand it, the AG should drive air inside the flask. Mine is silent, it does not make any sounds similar to the operation of the fan. What, really have to hand over? Or is it okay? Who has Weight, answer me!
* Anyuta *
I have a Supra ... the sound of the AG is similar to a hairdryer, well, maybe a little quieter ..
We have VES with Tanya the giraffe, but she is now in Moscow ...
Grypana
Quote: @ irina @

I threw in the chicken, the AG is heating, but somehow it seems to me not very intense. At the beginning of work, the ten is heating up (this can be seen), and then the HEAT indicator turns on and off, but the ten does not turn red.

Irina, I don't have Weight, but if your AG is similar to mine, then ...
Have you set the temperature?
Maybe the handle is not pressing the button? Place a piece of cardboard between the handle and the button to press it. No, so to speak, contact
Viki
Quote: @ irina @

Who has Weight, answer me!
I have weight. But 730. It has a halogen. So, alas, there will be little help from me.
Try turning it on by weight and see if the propeller is spinning inside. You can see it there.
And the halogen, when heated, also glows, as the temperature picks up - it goes out. And only the fan drives hot air in a circle. Then it lights up again.
Shelena
Quote: @ irina @

And yet, as I understand it, the AG should drive air inside the flask. Mine is silent, no sounds similar to the operation of the fan makes. What, really have to hand over? Or is it okay? Who has Weight, answer me!
Irina, my AG is not VES, but the operation of the fan can be checked as follows: put a piece of paper or cotton wool, turn on a low temperature and the maximum fan speed. If there is intense movement (movement), then the fan is working. But what works silently is alarming.
Stafa
I had the same weight. You can check whether the fan is working or not by setting the temperature and time, holding the handle in your hand, press the handle into working condition and see the fan operation and heating.
@ irina @
Is silent! The chicken has been standing for about 50 minutes, she didn't even let the juice in. Okay, hot. The lid is hot, but not hot. The flask is slightly hot from the side (the hand is not straining to endure), closer to the bottom the flask is not even warm at all. Sadness, sadness! Now I'll turn it off, check the fan, although I know it's not worth it, it doesn't work, I can't hear it. Apparently tomorrow I will have to make a return.
@ irina @
All! Packed, tomorrow morning in the store. Oh, how I do not like this business (recurrent)!
* Anyuta *
Quote: @ irina @

All! Packed, tomorrow morning in the store. Oh, how I do not like this business (recurrent)!

Good luck with the exchange!
AlenaDS
Grypana! girls! Thank you all! even for the fact that I can share my experiences with you. I will choose. I could not get out on the weekend to ask the guides for information. Manyunka did not give it, I got sick ..... But I don’t give up this thought yet.
Viki
@ irina @, happy exchange! Let's wait for good news ...
@ irina @
Good day everyone! I took it to the store, took it away without even opening the box. The exchange did not have the same model, the money was returned. Most likely I will order Liberton 03 online. The store has only Supra 1201 (ten), but I want a complete set. I don't think there is much difference between them.
AlenaDS
The girls, after reading everything, decided to take - to indulge - to learn Supra AGS-1201. What do you think is worth it?
AlenaDS
I found a video about this grill. Only something is not impressive. No, in my opinion, a drip tray 🔗
@ irina @
AlenaDS, yesterday I looked at the Supra in the store. I also did not like the package. Only two grates and tongs. I do not remember if there is a lid holder. I decided to take Liberton 03. There are still a lot of adaptations. Yesterday I called, today I'm going to the warehouse for my next Wishlist.
Mona1
Quote: @ irina @

AlenaDS, yesterday I looked at the Supra in the store. I also didn't like the package. Only two grates and tongs. I do not remember if there is a lid holder. I decided to take Liberton 03. There are still a lot of adaptations. Yesterday I called, today I'm going to the warehouse for my next Wishlist.
Inspect the flask carefully so that there are no chips and bubbles in the glass. And also turn the knob a little bit, it should start ticking. Just don't turn it back to zero, it can break (the instructions say this to AG, I have one), and let them turn it on there, check if it works. At the same time, bring your hand to the removed cover (to the grate) with the handle lowered (the handle turns on the AG when lowering, and turns it off when it is raised) - see if the air is blowing and hot.Only it is not hot from the first second, the heating element should heat up.
@ irina @
Mona1, thanks for the advice. We checked everything, everything works. Looked at the bubbles kind of carefully. But at home when I was already washing the flask I found one. And how did I view it? Cooked cutlets. It turned out juicy - super! Another charlotte. I didn't hope that it would be baked. But I was pleasantly surprised by the result. The dough turned out to be thick due to the small shape, but it was baked completely. I will try again, but of course I will correct it. And there was still some bread left after dinner, I made toast. They turned out to be much tastier than in a toaster. In general, AG worked today with a bang. Cool assistant! And why have I been thinking for 4 years: is it necessary or not? It turned out that it was definitely needed. Took a place of honor in the kitchen next to the Cuckoo.
Now I will master the recipes. Tomorrow, according to plan, potatoes.
Asya Klyachina
Quote: @ irina @

And why have I been thinking for 4 years: is it necessary or not? It turned out that you definitely need

Kuru into it urgently, kuru! : yahoo: Marinate properly and cut into pieces on the top wire rack.
Mona1
Quote: Asya Klyachina

Kuru into it urgently, kuru! : yahoo: Marinate properly and cut into pieces on the top wire rack.
Congratulations and confirm: Kuru is urgent, Kuru!
It's so yummy! I just salted and pepper the pieces (wings or thighs, whatever), sprinkled with grilling spices, or other, if desired, and poured kefir over, the older the better. And let it stand for half an hour (if more, then even better). Then I'll put it on the upper grate. Temperature 225-230. for 20 min. then I turn it over and by the same amount. But, you need to adapt to your own and look, maybe after 15 you need to turn it over and also, how much you love the fried chicken slightly or until it crunches.
Yes, I put a piece of parchment at the bottom for baking. And then I put a grate on it. So then wash less. I often bake bread in the oven on parchment, and then I don't throw this piece of paper away, but I throw it straight into the AG. If I bake something there, then I use this paper, a new one is not wasted. He threw out the greased paper and wiped it with a rag. Just do not wash immediately, let it cool down, otherwise it can crack from the temperature drop.
AlenaDS
Mona1, thanks for the advice. But then my husband wanted to. Between supra and liberton, he liked supra more. By glass thickness. It seems like a little thicker. I myself have not seen it live. The husband watched himself. He says that we will put foil on the bottom when we bake. He promised to measure and then buy a drip tray. Everybody walks and dreams of barbecue. Seen enough YouTube about barbecue with the aroma of alder sawdust. Hotter recipe. Just for this he liked the airfryer. She offered to buy him an electric BBQ grill. Offended Xia. Now I don't know ... I went to the store and watched the hotter. He says that if this supra is covered for 400 UAH, it will be a shame. But not so if the hotter breaks for UAH 2700. And now I am wondering where to get these alder sawdust, which is laid on the bottom and sprinkled with water. And they put a grate on top. And where to get the small skewers to string the meat for the supra. Such are the things. We must bring the supra on Saturday. Ordered in the photo. There is still time to dissuade. But with ten, this is the only model so cheap.
@ irina @
Girls! Thanks for the advice! Today I'm just going to cook chicken goulash. I'll go pickle according to Mona1's advice.
Mona1
Quote: AlenaDS

And now I am wondering where to get these alder sawdust, which is laid on the bottom and sprinkled with water. And they put a grate on top. And where to get the small skewers to string the meat for the supra. Such are the things. We must bring the supra on Saturday. Ordered in the photo. There is still time to dissuade. But with ten, this is the only model so cheap.
Sawdust - in the supermarket, where barbecue products, charcoal and so on. But people just tried it with sawdust, the smell of campfire still does not come out and smoked too. To do this, you still need to spray with liquid smoke. I did, however, with oak sawdust, complete garbage. And you don't need to buy small skewers, buy a pack of wooden skewers, cheap and cheerful.
By the way, these bells and whistles, which are in Liberton and not in Supra, are very difficult to find on sale separately, some (for example, a rack for toast) are generally impossible. And what you find costs so much that if you still find and buy, then more than half of the cost of AG will be pulled. Separately, they are very expensive.
But maybe they are not necessary. I have almost all of them lying around uselessly. The pallet is only used often of metal, sometimes the steamer (this is a buy pallet with holes, tongs are needed to get the pallet out of the red-hot AG. The skewers can be replaced with skewers, and the bread holder is still new to me.
@ irina @
And yesterday I used both pallets. She covered both with foil and overcooked the cutlets in two steps. Fine! Nothing got dirty. She took off the foil, the trays are clean.
AlenaDS
Girls! I chose! Hooray! VES AX 777 🔗 the whole set! I'm waiting for delivery. And with ten. Reviews are better than supra) Mona1 and that's it, thank you all! What is liquid smoke? And he probably also happens to be different? All the time on hearing. But I have never cooked with him.
AlenaDS
I found an article discussing the leadership of the Airfryer. And this helped to make a choice. Moreover, my husband really wanted with a complete set and with a heating element. 🔗
Mona1
I didn't cook either. Look in supermarkets. Here you buy cold smoked mackerel or other smoked meats, sausages. It's all not smoked in smoke, but anointed with this garbage and smells smoked. I think this is not a very useful thing, to put it mildly. You can not smear the chicken, for example, with this smoke, but moisten the sawdust with water, and then drip this smoke on them, a little. Well, in general, what I advise there, let whoever did this, he will answer correctly.
Shelena
Quote: AlenaDS

What is liquid smoke? And he probably also happens to be different? All the time on hearing. But I have never cooked with him.
AlyonaI cooked with liquid smoke. I took "Alder Smoke", sold in supermarkets. It turned out, of course, delicious with him, especially the fish. But after listening to friends-experts in smoking, after reading about "smoke" on the Internet, they refused to use this chemistry.
Now we smoke with sawdust. I liked the method that one of the members of the forum advised (make a "cigarette" with sawdust inside and put it under a heating element. The smell of real smoking! Read about this method in the topic of smoking in AG.
AlenaDS
girls, something I do not understand at all .... I ordered it. But on different sites they write different things about ten. Who has it, can you tell me exactly, an airfryer with a heating element (tubular electric heater) or with a halogen lamp? I'm talking about VES-777. If with halogen, I refuse right away.
Mona1
When I looked after my Liberton, they also wrote different things on different sites, I had to call Liberton's website and torture them. Say: TEN. Then I ordered from a local online store for home delivery. She also asked. They said the heating element. I then immediately warned them that I would check when they delivered. I checked that everything is correct. The heating element looks like such a gray rod around, you can see it through the grate in the lid there.
And on sites - they themselves do not know, and the description is simply copied from a similar model. For example, my Liberton has a twin - just like that, but with a lamp. So, the description is the same, they just copied it without going into much.
AlenaDS
"The heating element looks like such a gray rod all around, you can see it through the grate in the lid." - Here is a smart girl, Mona1-thanks! I will try to find a representative office in Kiev, and when they bring me at least I will know how and what to look at.
Mona1
Quote: AlenaDS

"The heating element looks like such a gray rod all around, you can see it through the grill in the lid."
And the diameter of its section is about the same as that of a pencil. And when they turn it on to check, the lamp will probably immediately burn, and the heating element will be the same gray, at least until it gets hot, but for so long, I think, they won't check. Bring your hand to the grate, if hot air is blowing, it means that the fan and the heating element are working.
Mona1
And I have read such cases that people used AG as a heater. They turned on, and put the lid on the end so that hot air blew into the room.Warmed up type.
AlenaDS
I didn’t google the representation ..... ed The only thing that I found this is: I think you can believe.
@ irina @
AlenaDS, Ves 777 - exactly with heating element. She held in her hands, twisted, twisted. Take it, do not hesitate (about ten). And I was not lucky with this model (I wrote on the previous page).
AlenaDS
Oh! And now what i can do? Did he behave like that at once or after a couple of days from the purchase? Who else has a VES-777, and how long has it served you? I am interested in negative reviews, so that I know what to expect, so that my husband does not swear, because the idea was his, to buy an airfryer in the house, and I googled the weight.
@ irina @
AlenaDS, they turned on in the store, the heating started, turned off. So it works. And I didn’t think about checking the fan. I brought it home, in anticipation of a delicious dinner, I put the chicken in, turned it on, but it turned out that not only the fan was not working, but also the heating was not working at full capacity. The chicken went to the oven, I wiped the AG, packed it on the trail. day took to the store. The return took 10 minutes (she said she did not use it). I ordered Liberton 03 (this one has been working for a relative for 2 years without problems), on the trail. took the day from the warehouse. It is almost twice as cheap as Weight. I decided that if it breaks, then it will not be so sorry, but if the AG takes root in the family, I will take something more sophisticated. After the first preparation, it was decided that this is simply a necessary thing. Here the girls suggested that a piece of foil should be put in the flask, closed with a lid, turned on and the foil from the fan should "fly" over the flask. So I bought Liberton with foil. In the store they looked at me like I was crazy. Don't be upset, I'm just unlucky. And in terms of the quality of the plastic, I liked the Weight more, although there was no baking plate and a toast stand, but this is not a problem. Happy shopping!
AlenaDS
Thank you! Brought from the online store Photos. Let see otryat like crazy. It is our right to pay only for working equipment. Recently, I just insist to turn on and check the technique before calculating the money. Even though they don't really like it. And sometimes you have to return it. Like a freshly Hilton potato peeler. The store turned on, it works. And when potatoes were poured at home, no. Even the employees themselves could not turn it on when I returned it the next day. I read one article that the weight is made in the same factory as the hotter. And the price of hotters is unreasonably high.
Oca
I have a suprochka with a halogen, Azazy - with heating element, we are happy. Don't worry about the price! I still grabbed Blaze at the flea market (TENovy), a sitting chicken intermeddle with him and did not catch anything. I drive in tandem with Supra.

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