@ irina @
Oca, and what, a chicken sitting does not fit in Supra?
igorechek
Quote: Mona1

Sawdust - in the supermarket, where barbecue products, charcoal and so on. But people just tried it with sawdust, the smell of campfire still does not come out and smoked too. To do this, you still need to spray with liquid smoke. I did, however, with oak sawdust, complete garbage.
I already wrote somewhere. Never, as it is written in the recipes, smoking with sawdust will not work - there is not enough temperature to release the smell.
The solution is very simple - put the sawdust on the foil and roll the foil in several layers with a sausage. Then make small holes, for example, with a fork and gently bend the sausage itself with a bagel (so that it does not burst). Place it in the gap between the glass and the protective grill, close to the heating element. Smoke at any T you want, but first, be sure to let the sawdust warm up at MAX temperature. The smell will be awesome without liquid smoke.
igorechek
Quote: Mona1

Here you buy cold smoked mackerel or other smoked meats, sausages. It's all not smoked in smoke, but anointed with this garbage and smells smoked. I think this is not a very useful thing, to put it mildly.
Experts explain about smoke a little differently.
Liquid smoke itself is harmless. There is no chemical-water solution with a smoking smell. And if you cook for yourself with liquid smoke, that's fine.
But in factory production, so that the product does not deteriorate when using the w. smoke (it has no preservative effect) preservatives are added to it.
Therefore, use liquid smoke at home - and you will be healthy.
Asya Klyachina
Well, today I tried to smoke mackerel with a "cigarette", though inside there were not sawdust, but soaked alder chips. The mackerel is of course smoked, you won’t say anything. But along with it, the entire airfryer was smoked. Barely "Shumanite" laundered. Something I felt sorry for him. Better, of course, a smokehouse for this. And the smell, of course, is good that I smoked in the garage. This method, of course, is "when the HUNT IS LOST".
igorechek
I do not know about you, I have a good hood at home. Smells, of course, not all, but draws out.
And in my opinion there are normal smells of "nature", which are pleasant in an unobtrusive form. If you stand and breathe smoke, then it is unpleasant, and if the slight smell of haze, it resembles nature.
Then, based on logic, it is necessary to fry both potatoes and meat in the garage. Isn't it easier to install a hood?
About the smoked flask. I am always by the type of kitchen appliances, I can determine what kind of hostess. If it's dirty and smudged, it's a slob. And if it is absolutely clean, then it does not use it. It is IMPOSSIBLE to keep your kitchen appliances ABSOLUTELY clean. And why wash out the light sooty of the flask if it is not grease and dirt? Wipe with a damp cloth. The smell is not transmitted anyway. Look at programs like "repair schools". On the contrary, the look of shabby furniture and antiquity lends charm to the apartment. Once again I say, I'm not for dirty equipment, but for moderate cleaning.
Oca
Quote: @ irina @

Oca, and what, a chicken sitting does not fit in Supra?
Slightly, literally a couple of mm, the halogen lamp grid is lower in it. As a result, it turns out that the AG cover rotates on the chicken "roost" as on a pin, loosely covering the magnifying ring. But! This despite the fact that I bought a high wire frame for the chicken (at a 50% discount) and put it on the lower wire rack so that the chicken's tail and legs do not float in fat.
AlenaDS
Girls! Here are the first impressions of the VES-777., The height of the flask is 17 cm. The height of the expansion ring is 8 cm. I cooked chicken in it today.I put foil on the bottom, then put a low grate, on it a plate (I don't know what to call it, but it came with the grill, iron). She put chicken in it, which she had previously marinated in (mayonnaise, mustard, paprika, black pepper, turmeric, nutmeg, poured with lemon juice, fennel). I put an expansion ring. And she turned it on. At first I tried to put the chicken on the poultry stand. I didn't fit. The grill lid was in the way. Then I tried to put the expansion ring and again plant the chicken on this stand. Again, not that. As a result, she freaked out, and just laid it (chicken) with a carcass. She turned on the grill at a temperature of 200, for an hour. I watched when the top turned brown after forty minutes, lifted the grill lid by the handle, he switched off, turned it over with forks, and set it back to 200 for forty minutes. Exhibited for an hour, of course. But it was necessary to disconnect earlier. Bottom line: delicious. We got it right away. Where there shop grilled chickens compete !!!! Before that, I cooked small pieces of chicken. Now the legs, then the breasts. Not less than 40 min. talk one side. And she always put foil on the bottom. It is very comfortable. And they write about this in the instructions. Kebabs are delicious!
Mona1
Quote: AlenaDS

Before that, I cooked small pieces of chicken. Now the legs, then the breasts. Not less than 40 min. talk one side. And she always put foil on the bottom. It is very comfortable. And they write about this in the instructions. Kebabs are delicious!
Congratulations on the tasty treat! Delicious chicken in the AG comes out. But when not a whole chicken, but in pieces, I get 20-25 minutes on one side. You may, like with a whole chicken, put it on the lower grill, so it takes a long time.
I have them on the top without an expansion ring, the temperature is 230 degrees. Marinate for a short time in kefir with spices.
In general, most of all I like the store wings, cooked in my AG (homemade ones are suitable only for soup).
igorechek
Buy a deep fryer. Only not an air fryer, but an ordinary one. After cooking the wings in it, you will not touch the store!
svet777
Today I sent my brand 35128 back to ozone, I worked only for 3 months, I liked it so much ... but here I have such an opportunity, I definitely can't, without an airfryer, again the question arose, which one to take, girls, what would you advise, I ask for help
AlenaDS
I have already chosen :) Fryer PHILIPS HD-9220/20
Mona1
Quote: AlenaDS

I have already chosen :) Fryer PHILIPS HD-9220/20
I looked, too, for the sake of interest - pretty, but the price ... And I was already on fire ...
igorechek
Quote: svet777

today I sent my brand 35128 back to ozone, I worked only for 3 months, I liked it so much ... but here such an opportunity, I definitely can't, without an airfryer, again the question arose, which one to take, girls, what would you advise, I ask for help
Take Hotter, they first launched it 20 years ago. During this time, it was run in. I think she has been working for my friend since 1995-96! I have 10 years.
svet777
;) Heh ... it happens to me like that, I ordered a hotter (there was just an action), I went to your forum ... and then they dissuaded me (she has a hotter and a brandy) ... I refuse to call and order this unfortunate brand, with shadows, the run is not big, once or twice and ... there was no more aerogrill. You are talking about the air fryer here, I also looked for it in online stores, not available anywhere
igorechek
If you want to cook well and tasty - buy both the airfryer and the classic deep fryer SEPARATELY. There are different principles of cooking and the taste will be different and you will cook the dishes - in one device one, in another device - others.
You won't be able to buy one universal device.
svet777
understandably. Now I was looking at aerogrills on the ozone, almost only units, I never bought anything from their technology, in general I have some kind of stopper, I don't understand what to take, in my brandy everything suited me, the color black was also cool ... it was black, too few airfryer
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Svetlana, what happened to Brand? What kind of breakdown?
svet777
after 3 months of work, it began to turn off for no reason, it will stand, then it can work again for 30 minutes, and then one fine day it did not work at all, the display is on, you click on any program, no signs of life, silence, I looked in the book the address of the service center, 90 km away from us, we come, and they say that we are not taking the brands for repairs now, I called the ozone, they said, return, these are the pies ... now I am again suffering with the choice ...
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Oh, exactly, you already wrote, I forgot, sorry. It's a pity, of course, that it broke.Good luck with your new choice!
AlenaDS
Girls, regarding the choice between the hotter and the ax-777 weight, I do not see any difference. Moreover, as I already wrote, they are made at the same plant. Look at my earlier posts. Ten is not halogen, complete set, grates, stands, skewers. 8 pcs. accessories. I've already cooked so many different dishes in it. So why pay more? It's not even about how much it costs. I can afford to buy what I like. It's about the toad. Which just prompts, if the hotter hits, I'm sorry for the money. If God forbid, I'll go buy a new one. And you don't blow off dust particles from it as you would breathe on a hotter for such a sum.) But, I use it to the fullest. The husband wanted a chicken, please, dotsya kebabs, too. I took from a reasonable savings point. Maybe someone will find my advice useful. But I think, all the same, the price of a hotter is very high. Yes, in mine it is not electronics, but mechanics. So what? This does not affect the quality of food. Believe me, it plows when necessary. And it is not necessary (absolutely mine are already spoiled, when my husband is hungry from work, and at three o'clock in the morning he prepares barbecue for himself). Big family. But while the weight-777 is justifying itself. and not a bit sorry that I bought it.
Giraffe
My weight ax-747d plows steeper than dad Carlo ... At the time of purchase, probably 4 years ago, there were probably no others on sale. I bought the same for my mom a year ago.
Viki
Quote: Giraffe

My weight ax-747d plows steeper than dad Carlo ...
Giraffe, Tanya, I have been plowing Weight 730 for a long time and successfully. Here, I understand that the problem of choosing a tenovy AG. Our halogen ones are not suitable.
Giraffe
Yes, that's me, in support of the brand.
Viki
Quote: Giraffe

Yes, that's me, in support of the brand.
And I have already had all the conservation for 4 years only in the AG. Despite the fact that there is a lot of conservation, I am very pleased with my weight. This year there was a force majeure and it was necessary to preserve a lot in one day, so from 9 in the morning he worked for me at midnight with a break of one hour while I was running after more tomatoes. He turned out to be a hard worker.
svet777
I think that I was just unlucky, that's all, these brands work for girls, thank God, regularly, everyone is happy (of course, with the exception of people like me). There are almost only units on ozone, who, girls, are so AG, please respond, and a few supras Chegoy are expensive too, to be honest: pardon: Vika wrote in a branch here that she removed the hotter, she likes the brand more .. ...
Giraffe
Or maybe it was just worth changing to another, but the same model?
svet777
: umnik2: I don't care now, shadow or halogen: yes: if only it works
svet777
: yes: yes, I would be glad, but now in our city for some reason they stopped repairing brands, you never know what again ... I don't even know ... will it be reasonable: pardon: to be honest, I really liked it, the equipment is good , color black, everything was fine ...
AlenaDS
svet777, maybe try as me? The girls advised me here when I had the pangs of choice. Take Alyonka and learn - indulge in the simplest and cheapest airfryer. As for the first experience, any will do. I took the weight. Happy as an elephant. Try also.
svet777
;) And maybe so ... I will now wait for the return of money: girl_manikur: I think it will be a long story: pardon: yes ... wait and see, thank you girls for your support: rose: By the way, I searched online stores , whose scales are nowhere to be found
Shelena
Svetlana, reading about the agony of choice, I remembered my throwing 3 years ago.
Then my Hotter burned out. And urgently needed to look for a replacement. But I didn't want to roll back and buy a simple one with one speed! Having tried the best, I just don't want to return to the good.
Watched VES with 3 speeds. I didn’t like the build quality, although the equipment was very attractive ...
In general, the month tossed about. And then Brand's 1st three-speed model appeared (the number is indicated in my profile). Immediately I liked it externally and in function. Have bought. We are happy for three years! If anything, we will buy Brand again.
My opinion: once I lay down on my soul, everything was fine, it is worth trying again to take the same model. And, alas, isolated cases of equipment malfunction occur.
Happy choice!
svet777
Len, by chance your model is not 35128, I had the same one, also 3 speeds, this model is very similar to a hotter
_IRINKA_
Hello, can you please tell me if the principle of operation of an airfryer is similar to a microwave oven with convection and a grill?
igorechek
Quote: svet777

after 3 months of work, it began to turn off for no reason, it will stand, then it can work again for 30 minutes, and then one fine day it did not work at all, the display is on, you click on any program, no signs of life, silence,
Look at the pins between the power cord and the grill itself. This can simply be due to poor contact. I have already seen this more than once, and the repairmen will take the grandmother for the repair, supposedly of which, and the bastards will giggle.
igorechek
Quote: _IRINKA_

Hello, can you please tell me if the principle of operation of an airfryer is similar to a microwave oven with convection and a grill?
There is no similarity with a microwave oven, And if you have a convection oven, then it is better than an airfryer
_IRINKA_
as far as I understood the airfryer works on the principle of a fan (convector) and ten, in the microwave there is also such a function convector + grill microwave waves are not included, so I think it looks like it with an airfryer?
igorechek
Quote: _IRINKA_

as far as I understood the airfryer works on the principle of a fan (convector) and ten, in the microwave there is also such a function convector + grill microwave waves are not included, so I think it looks like it with an airfryer?
Yes, the airfryer is extremely simple: a fan blows the air over the heating element. But due to the fact that the air is blown exclusively from above, it cannot be compared with the oven, for example, in terms of the quality of baking. And the volume will not allow you to do what a good oven can.
And in a good oven there are heating elements from all sides and you can regulate the process more universally. As I understand it, the function of the heating element and the microwave goes on alternately. Well, why do you need an airfryer then?

Shelena
Quote: svet777

Len, by chance your model is not 35128, I had the same one, also 3 speeds, this model is very similar to a hotter
Sveta, I have even more "ancient model" 35129 (with shadow)! Almost identical to Hotter (this was an important argument when choosing 3 years ago).
AlenaDS
I read it and wanted to help you. Here are the links where it seems to be. I'm from Kiev, and it's hard for me to break through the whole of Izhevsk. But what in my power, I tried to do. 🔗 🔗[city_id] = 19 🔗 🔗 🔗 the last price list is exactly as they say
_IRINKA_
Quote: igorechek

Yes, the airfryer is extremely simple: a fan blows the air over the heating element. But due to the fact that the air is blown exclusively from above, it cannot be compared with the oven, for example, in terms of the quality of baking. And the volume will not allow you to do what a good oven can.
And in a good oven there are heating elements from all sides and you can regulate the process more universally. As I understand it, the function of the heating element and the microwave goes on alternately. Well, why do you need an airfryer then?

I just thought I would get baked goods according to recipes for the airfryer, and really everything worked out, I made the Gourmet pie (the recipe was for the airfryer), now I will use recipes and found a way out like an oven without an oven
fronya40
oh, class! write a recipe!
AlenaDS
can I have a recipe?
svet777
very informative of course;) the difference between halogen and ten 🔗
Mona1
Quote: svet777

very informative of course;) the difference between halogen and ten 🔗
I have - with TEN AG and I love him dearly, but in fairness I want to say all the same that this article - on the Hotters website has a goal - to turn buyers away from the halogen in favor of TEN, and therefore Hotters. Therefore, you need to keep this in mind when reading the article.
igorechek
The fact is that heating elements are really better than halogens.
Take a look at ovens, which are a lot like the airfryer principle. What kind of heaters are there? Do you think the leading manufacturers are wrong?
Halogens are used in microwaves and mini ovens. In the first case, to create just a fried crust, and in the second case, for quick heating.
Previously, halogens were also used in glass-ceramic hob panels, but due to their fragility, reputable manufacturers stopped making them.
But exactly where long-term cooking is needed, it is more profitable to use heating elements.
I have looked at this question for a long time and not only on the Hotter website. If it's not difficult, take 20-30 minutes and read all the pros and cons on independent sites ...
fronya40
I will say one thing - I have a halogen - Liberton is 3 years old, for that price (I bought it for 400 UAH) - I served it with faith and truth. I didn’t even know then that there were ten. when they start to carry br ... that the factories make heaters, I still remember how my friend uses the ceptor cosmetics, and everyone tells her that all her life at this factory they made dishes on you. The main thing is that it works - despite the anti-advertising. Works and pleases)))
and I'm glad that this joy cost 400 UAH with a bunch of bells and whistles - a stimmer, grates, a cake pan, tweezers, a plate, and I didn't buy a Hotter for 2500 UAH without all this set. Honestly, I think about it every time I turn it on!
svet777
: yes: I also have, by the way, the oven is electric, when I bought it, I specially chose the stove with an electric oven
Lagri
Quote: Mona1

I have - with TEN AG and I love him dearly, but in fairness I want to say all the same that this article - on the Hotters website has a goal - to turn buyers away from the halogen in favor of TEN, and hence Hotters. Therefore, you need to keep this in mind when reading the article.
I also have an airfryer with a heating element, they bought it specially with a heating element, but with a halogen they do not accept anything at home. The microwave has been idle in a corner for a long time (I sometimes sterilize jars in it), and energy-saving light bulbs too. Of course, there are many that are harmful, what we use ... for the sake of convenience, we believe the manufacturers, but what can you do ...
sazalexter
Quote: Mona1

I have - with TEN AG and I love him dearly, but in fairness I want to say all the same that this article - on the Hotters website has a goal - to turn buyers away from the halogen in favor of TEN, and hence Hotters. Therefore, you need to keep this in mind when reading the article.
In 2010 or 11, I don’t remember exactly now, Hotter began to produce AG with a halogen heater, with huge advertising ... but quickly curtailed the production and sale of such models ... and why would it be? ...
Vitaok
Quote: sazalexter

but quickly curtailed the production and sale of such models ... and why would it be? ...
Besides, halogens are not durable. And Hotter guarantees quality for 10 years. And what quality can we talk about if every, at best, 3-4 years, these halogens need to be changed. IMHO

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