Irgata
Quote: CroNa
it is easier to dry bread with large breadcrumbs and sharpen them on a grater.
) and the metal from the grater is not erased with the breadcrumbs? especially if it's the current Chinese spill grater - made of nothing.
Well, and WHY to rub crackers by hand, if there are a lot of grinders of different sizes, not in a cave while we live))
And ready-made ground crackers can be bought, like everything else that we do at home, yes.
Crown
) and the metal from the grater is not erased along with the breadcrumbs, especially if this is the current Chinese spill grater - made of nothing.
No, it is not erased, the roles change there, the tips of a potato grater act as an abrasive, and a crouton - in the role of a gentle victim. :-) Hand pressure is regulated and the crouton crumbles with sand, and in a meat grinder it is crushed into pieces with strong squeezing, picking the metal at the same time. No, this is not our method. ;-)




Well, and WHY to rub crackers by hand, if there are a lot of grinders of different sizes, not in a cave while we live))
I feel sorry for the chopper knives, but I don't want to start another device for the rusks, especially since there really are not so many of them. And a simple grater is still needed on the farm, I already wrote that it is convenient to grate coconut on shavings, and it is convenient to remove darkness from burnt baking (not often, but it happens) with a terechka.
Irgata
Quote: CroNa
this is not our method.
I have never suffered from a craving for trouble and lengthening the cooking time - my credo is more convenient, easier, easier, faster
Crown
Everyone has their own understanding of convenience, ease and simplicity.
By the way, I have a manual meat grinder in the storehouse, I have only been using it for three years, but if I leave everything, I will pick out the old meat grinder, assemble / screw it and start twisting these unfortunate crackers, I strongly doubt that it will be "more convenient, simpler , easier, faster ", the handles on the river are clearly easier.
Irgata
Quote: CroNa
Everyone has their own understanding of convenience, ease and simplicity.
undoubtedly.
But after the crackers, a meat grinder quite clean, I always clean the meat grinder with breadcrumbs after the meat - then just quickly wash the meat grinder, the breadcrumbs are cleaned off everything.

oh oh oh ... they will tell us on their heads for flooding, although there is no moderator in the subject
Crown
Irsha, of course, clean, it’s not crackers that “dirty” the meat grinder, but they are, and there will be no noticeable potholes, we are talking about microparticles.
Even in an electric, modern alloy, meat grinder, in the place where the rod rotates in the hole of the mesh, the meat turns black from rubbing metal.
From what before did many queens and princesses die in their prime? They smeared their faces with whitewash, and there was lead! In micro quantities, and the damsels were dying. :-(




No, lead is from another story (about vessels for wine), but arsenic ruined the beauties.
Charlotte
Crown, modern alloy is incomparably worse in comparison with the old one
The philosophy of things has changed - the device should last 2 years, a good alloy is not needed. Broken / dull Soviet manual meat grinders I don't remember at all. Unfortunately, this is the disease of the century - the modern cultural layer consists of consumer goods with a short service life, the amount of garbage produced is monstrous, and it contains a catastrophic percentage of non-degradable plastic ... but this is already a flood.
Kapet
Quote: Charlotte
KroNa, a modern alloy is incomparably worse than the old one
The philosophy of things has changed - the device should last 2 years, a good alloy is not needed. Broken / dull Soviet manual meat grinders I don't remember at all.
As you remember, almost all the products of the USSR light industry were produced at the enterprises of the defense industry, for which good raw materials were not spared.So the light industry received the same high-quality raw materials, and often some household appliances actually worked much longer than the current made in China or made in PRC.
And the products of the concern ESGE AG, which includes BAMIX AG, also "keeps the brand" of quality. The reliability of modern BAMIX mixers, according to user reviews, is not worse than 20-year-old products, which still work for many consumers ...
Svetlenki
Quote: Kapet
The reliability of modern BAMIX mixers, according to user reviews, is not worse than 20-year-old products, which still work for many consumers ...

Yes, I also read about this in the reviews. And they seem to have improved the food processor ...
Svetlenki
caprice23, Natasha, personally for you, I bring a report on bread crumbs. I was quietly silent in a rag, because I dry the crackers, collect them in an ikeevsky bag and then pray before the next minced meat for cutlets. And today an emergency happened - I forgot to grind them before cooking minced meat

In general, for two loads into the mill for wet and dry, I ground exactly enough rusks for 20 cutlets. And the child was sleeping next to him on the couch. That is, the noise was quite insignificant.

Bamix M200 Superbox blender and the entire Bamix blender family
Bamix M200 Superbox blender and the entire Bamix blender family

So he knows how to do it, you don't need to wash it later. Works quietly. Everything is fine. Plastic as new, no scratches
caprice23
Svetlenki, Svetul, thank you
You mean the processor? If it is, then I just grind the crackers in it, I don’t feel sorry for it, there is nothing to be blunt, the knives are already dull in themselves. I don't like the degree of grinding, very fine. I want a coarser grind. I don’t know how to get it.

It's a pity for Slicey, because the knives in the Kenwood chopper are dull from my crackers, I'm afraid they'll ruin them here too. But just such a grind suited me.
Svetlenki
Quote: caprice23
You mean the processor?

I don't know what I mean. Such a thing with a white bottom and a transparent top, without graters. It's just a knife.

Quote: caprice23
I don't like the degree of grinding, very fine.

Agree. Bigger would be better. I thought hard how it turns out in a meat grinder. Seem bigger
Irgata
Quote: caprice23
I don't know how to get it
meat grinder. = differently sized holes in the grates = different sized chips

+ meat grinders - knives are easy to either sharpen or buy new ones
Crown
Irsha, nope, this meat is cut with a knife on a lattice according to the size of the hole, and crackers are crumbled, crushed at random, including finely, and the largest, yes, by the size of the cells.
Irgata
Galina, I do not want to start negotiations again about the next unsuitability of the meat grinder - but, I have been grinding them in a manual meat grinder for almost 30 years, and my mother has been doing this all her life.
And there have always been crackers. And different in size.
Because, like meat, a grill with larger holes rather will release the chopped with a knife through itself than the grate with small holes, which retains the mass, and it continues to grind until it easily falls out of the grate.
caprice23
Quote: Svetlenki
Such a thing with a white bottom and a transparent top, without graters. It's just a knife.
Yes, Light, this is the processor.
Irgata
Quote: CroNa
meat is cut with a knife on a wire rack to fit the hole
the meat is cut with knives, and the grate does not cut anything, it acts as a damper with larger and smaller holes.
As soon as the knife chops the meat or whatever to the size of the hole in the grates, the chopped one begins to crawl out through the grates.

Crackers, of course, are free-flowing, but their crumbs will not crawl through the grates to the appropriate degree of grinding.
Crown
Irsha, I'm not talking about the unsuitability of a meat grinder for dry food, but about the fact that a meat grinder also cannot calibrate a crumb of a certain size, there will also be a trifle and a larger one.
The size of the crumb does not soar me, usually the small sticks to the cutlets, but the large remains. You can probably pre-sift the little things through a colander (I have a small-hole ikeevsky) and add to the minced meat instead of bread or manka, and the large one for breading.
Svetlenki
Quote: CroNa
I don't care about the size of a crumb

Remembered. Likewise, the size of the crumb did not really bother our Galina the dog is gray... She said that there are no calibrated ones. And this is exactly what helps the quality breading after molding. No, well, you can get confused and sift through a sieve of a certain frequency. But, I think, more precisely I hope that there are still no such idealists here.

Crown, Galina, but here we are talking precisely about the fact that after the Bamix processor, the crackers are ALL small. After the meat grinder, there are crumbs of different sizes. And now the big ones are crunchy in fresh cutlets. Well this is the most tsimes
Irgata
Quote: CroNa
You can probably pre-sift the little things through a colander (I have a small-hole ikeevsky) and add to the minced meat instead of bread or manka, and the large one for breading.
so I do.
But the difference between gratings with different holes is that large holes let more large crumbs pass through, which is sometimes required
Svetlenki
Quote: Irsha
so i do


Irgata
Svetlenki,




Quote: Svetlenki
But, I think, more precisely I hope that there are still no such idealists here.
ahh
Do not eat. The sieves are different, so don't use them, on occasion, if desired.
Crown
Svetlenki, so can we just turn it off earlier, because the longer the chopper works, the more the product is chopped?
Irgata
Quote: CroNa
so we can just turn it off earlier
very heterogeneous crumbs, something had time to smash, something did not have time.
I used to grind in a food processor and grinder of different sizes.
A meat grinder gives a more uniform grinding - it is the largest one that is - it is homogeneous, since the holes are the same.

I don’t understand at all what the problem is - there is a way that has been proven for many years to get rusks of different sizes, why think ...
Svetlenki
Quote: Irsha
very heterogeneous crumbs, something had time to smash, something did not have time.
I used to grind in a food processor and grinder of different sizes.
A meat grinder gives a more uniform grinding - it is the largest one that is - it is uniform, since the holes are the same.

I agree completely here. There was just a dumb scene today. I am with a bowl of minced meat, which urgently needs to be fried in cutlets, because this is minced meat. And a dirty meat grinder. And a bag of breadcrumbs not ready for breading I had to invent
Irgata
Quote: Svetlenki
And a dirty meat grinder.
which would be miraculously cleaned with bread crumbs
Hardworking jenchina does 2x the work
Svetlenki
Quote: Irsha
which would be miraculously cleaned with bread crumbs

no, no, this is not our way. But there is a sensible idea, I do not argue.
caprice23
Quote: Irsha
I don’t understand at all what the problem is - there is a method, proven for many years, to get crackers of different sizes
Yes, I guess my problem is that I don’t want to start another meat grinder because of crackers
I feel sorry for Kitchenovska.
caprice23
Ozone now has spare blender attachments. Meat knife and beater attachment. So suddenly who needs
Margit
Girls, does anyone else use a manual meat grinder? I threw mine out, but sometimes I miss it so much.
caprice23
Margit, Margarita, and in what cases is she missing?
By the way, my mother gave me an old Soviet hand. For crackers. And so, just in case. But there is no desire to collect it for me. And there is nowhere to fix it. It is not attached to the countertop in the kitchen, but a dining table with a very thick countertop, and even with glass. And it will not fit and the glass is a pity.




And I dabble with graters at the bamix. I like it very much.
Now I compared how a large drum in a kitchen rubs and the largest grater in a bamix. For kitchen, carrots are obtained in wider stripes, for bamix it is narrower. That is, the size is different in total. Very good for different tasks
Irgata
Quote: Margit
I threw mine
why throw out the working unit
Electricity may or may not be, the electric motor may kick.
Crown
I also have an old manual meat grinder in my stash, I think to adapt it to the dough. I looked at the TV, I liked how a small gang of grandmothers, like Italian ones, cooks cookies for the whole village. They knead the dough with their hands, then squeeze it through different nozzles on a manual meat grinder.Most of all I liked the cookies in the form of a donut, a thin sausage is squeezed out through the nozzle (almost like for sausages) and put on the protrusion in an even circle. You can, of course, roll this sausage with your hands, but through the nozzle faster and smoother.

I also made spaghetti on my electric meat grinder, but the standard grills have too large holes, and special pasta nozzles do not fit it because of the large diameter, I will have to buy a set by hand and give it a second life. :-)
Margit
Quote: caprice23
Margarita, in what cases is she missing?
I spin the minced meat a lot in an electric meat grinder and freeze it in bags, and when I want to cook something, for the sake of one or two onions, I don't want to turn it again on an electric one. It doesn't work very well on a grater, I don't like Bamiks on a grater either.
Helen
Quote: Margit
and when I want to cook something, for the sake of one or two onions, I don't want to turn it again on the electric one.
so I wonder why it is easier for manual than electric, the amount of washing is the same ...
Margit
Quote: Helen
so I wonder why it is easier for manual than electric, the amount of washing is the same
The electric one is much larger and there are many residues inside the car. In manual not so. Check for comparison.
caprice23
Quote: Helen
so I wonder why it is easier for manual than electric, the amount of washing is the same
Agree. It's easier for me to rub it on bamik too.
Margit, Margarita, why don't you like it on the grater of bamix? On the contrary, I think there are such successful attachments, such aesthetically pleasing shredders are obtained.




Margarita, I don’t understand, do you want to twist onions in a manual meat grinder? If onion, then with knives in a slice it comes out great. No need for any graters and grinders.
Margit
Quote: caprice23
there are such successful attachments, such aesthetically pleasing shredders are obtained.
I agree, but not onion))
caprice23
But the meat grinder doesn't rub either ...
Margit
Quote: caprice23
But the meat grinder doesn't rub either ...
She twists the onion with a slice of minced meat




Quote: caprice23
If onion, then with knives in a slice it comes out great. No need for any graters and grinders.
Where can you see? I have become completely retarded.
caprice23
Quote: Margit
Where can you see? I have become completely retarded.
Here is the slice
BAMIX SliceSy Bit Set Light Gray
🔗 As far as I understand, you have it since we are talking about graters?
She has not only graters, but also a knife. This knife perfectly grinds the onion to the desired consistency. It can be large, but it can generally be a mess. For cutlets, I chop the onion with knives with knives. I love.
Margit
caprice23 Thank you Natasha!
Svetlenki
Margit, Margarita, Natasha is right, pay attention to the "chopper". Basically, for any chopper. But if there is a bamix, then, of course, it's easier to look at its accessory. The onion will turn out like from a meat grinder. The only thing I have a suspicion is that you will have to "joke" a couple of times with a spatula and mix the contents of the chopper bowl in order to get a uniform consistency. But there are more pluses than this minus - it is definitely easier to wash. Yes, and collect. And a bunch of other opportunities to use.

I'm friends with Burner, so I'm sticking with the bamix slices for now. Otherwise I would have given up long ago!




For bread crumbs, the meat grinder is unmatched all the same. Rusks are in it. But, if I forget in the meat grinder before the minced meat, then in the bamiks I have to. But the baby is very small is a fact




But I also want to say about grinding sugar. There is caster sugar and granulated sugar in England. So the so-called "caste shugar" is used in confectionery. It has a very fine grind and somehow dissolves quickly. In the Russian Federation, everything is easier with sugar. Therefore, the mill (more correctly, the processor for dry and wet) bamix is ​​super cool
caprice23
Quote: Svetlenki
The only thing I have a suspicion is that you will have to "joke" a couple of times with a spatula and mix the contents of the chopper bowl in order to get a uniform consistency.
Yes, you don't even have to "play around". If you hold the slice in your hands while chopping the onion and sometimes shake the mass, it will turn out to be homogeneous
Quote: Svetlenki
But, if I forget in the meat grinder before the minced meat, then in the bamiks I have to. But the baby is very small is a fact
Now I have adapted to do things in a new way. I do not dry the bread that is on crackers, but I freeze it. When necessary, I take it out of the freezer, break it into pieces and grind it in a mill. It is in this case that a crumb of the size I need is obtained. Not so fine when grinding dried bread.
I also really enjoyed grinding cheese in the mill. Yesterday I prepared the cordon blue. And there you need cheese and crackers for breading. So the mill grinned everything perfectly for me. True in 2 approaches. But in the second I even put the remains of cheese and bread together. Everything was finely crushed and not finely
Svetlenki
Quote: caprice23
It is in this case that a crumb of the size I need is obtained.

And how do you like cutlets in such a crumb? Or are you not breading cutlets in it?
caprice23
Sveta, I have not tried tunics yet, but in plans. Made nuggets, cordon blue, something else, I don't remember. Seems not bad. But she hasn't completely swelled yet.
Stubbornly I do not want to start another device for crackers. So I'm experimenting.
Alternatively, you can roll such bread into crumbs and dry it.
You should try to grind not frozen bread at all. If the same crumb comes out, then generally excellent. You don't need to make any crackers. I dried it and folded it into a bag.
Anchic
Natasha, I somehow needed crackers, I just lacked a little. I took fresh bread, rolled it into crumbs and dried it right in a dry frying pan, stirring constantly.
caprice23
Anna, I'll try today. Maybe I'll stop there.
So it will even be easier than drying crackers, storing them somewhere (they take up space) ...




Anna, and the result is how? Acceptable?
Mirabel
Natasha, and in finished form, how did such a breading look like? Was it crispy?
Anchic
Quote: caprice23
Anna, how is the result? Acceptable?
Yes, it is quite. Only I coarsely ground the bread when it was fresh. Then I walked with a crush, when it dried up, a little smaller crackers turned out.

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