Non-standard forms at Panasonic

[Creamy]

Creamy, and from which HP ordered the baguette holder?

[Ksyusha,]

Ksyusha, to model Moulinex 5004.

And, well, to Moulinex, in a word. Means like mine. The only thing to keep in mind is that in HP with baguette holders, there are usually two heating elements. On the top form, it may not bake with one ten. But that's just my guess. Maybe I'm not right.

We will check with practice. I suppose that 2 heating elements are needed for baking large bread, like up to 1.5 kg, and here there are 4 buns of 100 grams each. Everything will become clear only after "field trials"

[Creamy]

Girls and boys, but I couldn't stand it today, I went to our service center and ordered a baguette case with pallets. They took 1000 rubles in advance, they said it would cost around 2000 rubles. So, we will wait a month, and only then we will get rid of how to put it in Panasonic.

Good for you, Creamy, and my molds are scratched and everything shamelessly sticks to them, because I foolishly put them in the dishwasher once. I wanted to order new ones, but at our "service" point they said to wait about six months!
By the way, from HP Mulinex 6002 and 5004 the forms are identical, and 6002 also have trays for cakes-rolls. I wish I could find ...

[Creamy]

Good for you, Creamy, and my molds are scratched and everything shamelessly sticks to them, because I foolishly put them in the dishwasher once.

peel off the nonstick to the end, and then treat it with drying oil (look for the topic of cast iron restoration). What if it works out?

peel off the non-stick to the end, and then treat it with drying oil (look for the topic of cast iron restoration). What if it works out?

Found about cast iron. But mine are aluminum. Something I did not understand from these links, whether it is possible to treat him like that.

Unfortunately, different metals. And you just grease them with a non-stick talker, and everything will fly out with a bang.

[Creamy]

Good for you, Creamy, and my molds are scratched and everything shamelessly sticks to them, because I foolishly put them in the dishwasher once. I wanted to order new ones, but at our "service" point they said to wait about six months!
By the way, from HP Mulinex 6002 and 5004 the forms are identical, and 6002 also have trays for cakes-rolls. I wish I could find ...

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can they have?

I will try tomorrow or the day after tomorrow to finally test aluminum molds treated with tung oil.

[Rina]

to Rina: where to buy tung oil?
to Creamy: what are the proportions of non-stick talker? if I don't have lard right now - how can I replace it?

tung oil can usually be purchased from furniture decorators or refurbishers. You only need to search for pure tung oil! If not, look for pure flaxseed. It can be food, that is, searched for in products. Both oils can be found where they sell paint and varnish products, both for household and artistic purposes.

The non-stick talker can be replaced by so-grease the molds with margarine or butter and sprinkle them with flour. Turn over and shake off excess flour.
And flaxseed oil can be found in grocery stores, in the departments of healthy food and in the markets, in the departments where they sell all kinds of nuts, everything for pilaf and various oils, sesame, and linseed as well.

I usually do this with mold release. I just thought, maybe there are other ways.
We sell flaxseed oil for sure, so you need to look for tung-nut oil.
PS. By the way, baguettes are already being processed. They'll be baked soon, I'll post it.
PS2. shiiri vitannya to dear Kiev!

Here is the L7 form:

I should fit into Panasonic)

Where can you get this form?

Where can you get this form?

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I usually do this with mold release. I just thought, maybe there are other ways.

And there are such methods on the forum. Many people use it and are happy. Read here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...22419.0

I usually do this with mold release. I just thought, maybe there are other ways.
We sell flaxseed oil for sure, so you need to look for tung-nut oil.
PS. By the way, baguettes are already being processed. They'll be baked soon, I'll post it.
PS2. shiiri vitannya to dear Kiev!

check for the result!

I report: everything worked out!
I decided to put a small stainless steel plate upside down on the bottom of the stove for "boosting". By height, the stand entered perfectly and stopped touching the shadows. Baked baguettes from Mulinex's book of recipes with oatmeal and honey (210 pounds of flour, 40 rye flour, 30 g of honey, 3/4 teaspoons of salt and dry yeast, 175 ml of water).
I wanted to attach pictures, but I can't. Maybe I can't?

I'm trying again. I don’t know what will happen. If something goes wrong, don't blame me!
1. Stand without preparation.



2. At the bottom is a stainless steel plate.



3. I tried it on with baguettes, but the distance to the shade is not clear from the photo - approx. 5-7 mm.



4. Ready-made baguettes. were baked evenly, but the ones to the left were from the bottom, therefore, rounder.

How is it impossible ?! Photos to the people in the studio! Look, I got teased, and we are speculating here. So we are waiting for the photo report.

Pancake! Already evil takes and other words are torn out. On this radical. ru with advertising froze, but no sense. Or am I dumb? links are laid out, but pictures are not shown.

I didn't understand something, why so many unnecessary gestures, was it not easier to bake baguettes in the oven? , I do not regret my HP, it makes life so easy.

Or maybe you need to bake 4 sausages in a dough, for students in a hostel, or in a country house where there is no oven?

Wonderful photo report. Nice mini-bags. Congratulations on your initiative!

I finished it off! Me or me? ..
It may be easier in the oven, and I baked in the oven before. And that's why she kept the baguette holder. But I have a gas oven with a grill on top. every time you have to take out all the grates from it, because the stand does not fit, and the molds are small and slippery to place them.

Now you will bake mini-buns with different fillings - cheese, garlic, fruit, various vegetables, meat and fish.

Well, well, well, where to read about the fillings in more detail, Guru?

girls, touched, moved and knocked over

give the external dimensions of the delivery, I am now trying to find out the dimensions of the baguette holder from the liberton.

You shouldn't be talking about the Guru, I only registered on the forum two months ago. "A week without a year" is about me. And we have the topic "Baking with fillings", it has a good, extensive subtopic "Fillings for pies, pies, khachapuri, rolls"

Not in vain! (about the Guru).
Sizes: 21 / 19.5 / 10. This is max.

and where is the height?

, height 19.5, trays approx. 18 cm.

In general, I want to say that this is a historical moment. If earlier the Panasonic oven was one of the best bread makers, now with its expanded baking capabilities in various forms, it has become the best. Give the Panasonic fanclub!

[marinastom]

marinastom!!! Bravo!!! I am delighted!!! What handsome men! Thanks for the photo.

I didn't understand something, why so many unnecessary gestures, was it not easier to bake baguettes in the oven?

It is very debatable which is easier! And if a person does not have an oven at all? And if a person saves electricity? And I will repeat once again (I already wrote a couple of pages ago): baking in KhP is absolutely automatic. In the oven, you need to monitor, adjust the temperature, and then put the mold in the HP, set the time and forget, the stove will do everything itself - and the temperature will be maintained and switched off when necessary.

In general, I want to say that this is a historical moment. If earlier the Panasonic oven was one of the best bread makers, now with its expanded baking capabilities in various forms, it has become the best.Give the Panasonic fanclub!

Creamy! Plus and bow! L7 - it was mega-cool, and now the baguette holder has been screwed on. No words ...

[Creamy]

Creamy, I also acquired a cast aluminum shape L 7.

But to my regret in my Panasonic, it did not fit in length (if only to substitute something under the form). Others seem to fit, but I get up on the heating elements. I don’t understand why this is so. The form freely entered Moulinex and stands like a native, without touching the tenes.

Now I put the mold to roast, smeared with oil, in the oven (as the sellers of the goods recommended to me) and then I will put the bread to bake. I'm sooo happy about the purchase. Here's another way to push it into Panasonic. Or I will look for a smaller one for Panasonic.

Oh, no need to ignite it, burn it! I did so and was stupid! Let it remain in its original form. Just grease it with Pyshka margarine with a wide brush with elastic bristles, nothing else is needed. And add the dough right away. a baked loaf flies out with a whistle. About the fact that the L7 form is not included in Panasonic. I saw on many websites of manufacturers of bakery molds that they have different markings and mold numbers with the same mold sizes. Unfortunately. there is no single standard of designation for bakery forms, that is, one manufacturer has a name according to its TU (technical conditions), and even is cast on the bottom of No. 7, then another manufacturer, according to its TU, calls a shape of the same size No. 6. And here it will be more correct to focus on dimensions in mm than on form numbers.

[P.S]

Oh, no need to ignite it, burn it! I did so and was stupid! Let it remain in its original form.

It's already late, I ignited it and it darkened inside me from the oil, now it's such a horror story:

And here it will be more correct to focus on dimensions in mm than on form numbers.

Now I'll try to buy # 6.

P.S... I already figured out how to put the L7 form in Panasonic and the problem was solved. I put L7 in my old kit and everything is OK. You don't have to buy L6.

[Creamy]

Creamy, and you do not admit the option that the matter is not in the form, but in the stove?
Lagri has a 2502 model. You have 2500, I have 2501.
Anyone baked in 2502 except Lagri? What if she is a little smaller? After all, the form fits into our stoves almost end-to-end.

The numbers are assigned to forms for a reason. This is GOST. And as for the L6 form, it is even larger than the L7. I have L6 and it does not fit into Panasonic. Here in the picture, they are the first two, look at the dimensions.



Of course you're right, Creamy, in that the manufacturer can assign a number to the form, although its dimensions do not meet GOST. Maybe that's what happened with the form Lagri... Or maybe not...

Lagri, measure your shape. What is its top length? Only not internal, but external size is needed in this case.

And another question, Creamywhy don't you recommend annealing the forms? I calcined the new forms, as recommended, at 150 degrees with oil .. All the rules. And at Lagriit looks like the temperature was higher, that's why the shape darkened.

[Deep]

Oo !! So, judging by the picture Deep, not L7 at all, but quite even N10 here's how.
But the main thing is that it goes in and out normally. Good help in the heat

[Deep]

Oo !! So, judging by the picture Deep, not L7 at all, but quite even N10 here's how.
But the main thing is that it goes in and out normally. Good help in the heat

I join! Me too, it turns out 10!

[Lagri]

Lagri, measure your shape. What is its top length? Only not internal, but external size is needed in this case.

The dimensions of my L7 shape are the same as in the picture. These are the forms they have.

it looks like the temperature was higher, that's why the shape darkened.

Yes, the temperature was 220 degrees, so it means ... I tried to scrub it off, but it didn't work. How to clean it now, can you tell me? Deep, you do not know, by any chance?

But to my regret in my Panasonic, it did not fit in length (if only to substitute something under the form). Others seem to fit, but I get up on the heating elements. I don’t understand why this is so. The form freely entered Moulinex and stands like a native, without touching the tenes.

Look at my pictures about the baguette holder (above) - I had the same problem - I just put a stainless steel plate d15,5 sm, h3 sm on the bottom of the stove and everything got up perfectly!

Look at my pictures about the baguette holder (above) - I had the same problem - I just put a stainless steel plate d15,5 sm, h3 sm on the bottom of the stove and everything got up perfectly!

Yes, I saw and did so too.

I don't have such a diameter, bigger, but then I'll find it. And this one also stands steadily.
Uraaa !!!

At night, I also tried to bake bread in a form 7. I stood up close to the length of the shadows, all was afraid that the sides would burn out. But they did not burn out, it turned out great! Thanks to the inventor of this method, otherwise we don't want to approach the oven yet. Wholegrain baked with rye sourdough. Unfortunately, since I baked at night, did not take a picture, and in the morning I found the already shredded bun, my husband did his best. Mine love brick bread more. Thanks again!

[Deep]

Yes, the temperature was 220 degrees, so it means ... I tried to scrub it off, but it didn't work. How to clean it now, can you tell me? Deep, you do not know, by any chance?

do not scrub anything! Already use it as it is. In any case, the aluminum mold over time gets a "shirt" of dried fat (or margarine, or grease).

[Rina]

do not scrub anything! Already use it as it is. In any case, the aluminum mold over time gets a "shirt" of dried fat (or margarine, or grease).

Thank you, Rina, you reassured me. I was told what to do after the purchase, but they did not say at what temperature, so I got into trouble. I just thought that this carbon could get into the bread and wanted to wipe off the mold, but I couldn't do it, I even wanted to keep it in a soapy solution for a day - it might be easier to wipe it off. But now she put the bread to bake while she postponed washing. Can't wait to bake in the mold.

[Catwoman,]

Girls, what good fellows you are all the same! Catwoman, I congratulate you on the initiative - the first loaf - Brick! After reading your posts, I measured my L7 shape, outer length 220mm, at the bottom sign 7. That's right, my L7 is included in Panasonic 2500. And then she herself began to doubt.Lagri , do not despair that you have smoked your form, I learned the same thing with mine. But now I know that only cast iron should be smoked and burned, not aluminum. But all the same it is interesting, do the stoves 2500, 2501, 2502 differ in internal dimensions, or in some of them the heating element is simply placed higher from the bottom, and therefore a stand is needed?. It can be compared in a store, ostensibly choosing a stove as a customer. Yes, that's bad luck, all the sellers already know me by sight, quite recently they immediately removed two Panasonic and Mulinex stoves from the shelves for me. We tried on a baguette holder from Moulinex at Panasonic. But I honestly admitted to them that I wanted to order a baguette holder in the service center, which was done. Thank you marinastom, for her idea with a stand for a baguette holder, otherwise I was going to abuse the baguette holder with a hacksaw for metal, and she, one might say, saved the poor girl from violence. Thanks again to Marinochka from Murom

[Rina]

Thank you, Rina, you reassured me. I was told what to do after the purchase, but they did not say at what temperature, so I got into trouble.

nobody got involved. Even aluminum absorbs drying oil. Just grease the baking dish with a non-stick drip pan, and after baking, do not wash too vigorously with soapy products - after them, the dough may begin to stick tightly to the baking dish.

Just grease the baking dish with a non-stick drip pan, and after baking, do not wash too vigorously with soapy products - after them, the dough may begin to stick tightly to the baking dish.

Thank you. I got it.

Girls, but I don’t wash aluminum molds, I shook out the bread and put it on the shelf, do I have to wash it?

I wash with warm water with a drop of Ferry and wipe it dry, but without much fanaticism. Here, everyone is free to decide what to do.