Melanyushka
So, as a rule, most yogurt makers overheat, which is why people here are puzzled by such a device to maintain the guaranteed desired temperature. And the thermostat was probably not created for yogurt makers, it just turned out to be convenient to adapt this device for yogurt makers as well, and what's wrong if for a particular yogurt maker, when measured with a thermostat, it turned out to be convenient to set the temperature to 38.8 degrees, which turned out to be optimal for this particular yogurt maker, because, as it turned out, during the production of these devices, manufacturers do not always manage to adjust it to a given temperature, preferably 38-40 *. So we, the consumers, have to adapt - who puts the substrates, who uses the thermostat.
Mona1
Quote: igorechek

And I just have one of the first yogurt makers, so it is inaccurately tuned. Modern models, as far as I know, support the factory setting quite well.
Different leavens need different temperatures. For example, I love kefir and sour cream, but they need 30 degrees. No pads will help here, only a thermostat. And in the summer, when it’s hot, it’s much hotter in the yoghurt maker than it’s now, there are also difficulties with overheating. And about the fact that modern yogurt makers are good at maintaining factory settings, so I doubt it. The early is mostly better than the new. Perhaps you are lucky and your yoghurt maker does not overheat so much and you can cope with a simple lining of cardboard. And if you buy now a modern Moulinex, then without a regulator it will definitely not give the required fermentation temperature, because 55 degrees (which is how much the girl who bought Moulinex recently intended, and not only her) can hardly be reduced with anything, except for a thermostat. You understand, we are not spending money here because of a good life on a regulator, which costs a third of a yogurt maker, we have just tried all methods of lowering the temperature, so we order and now everything is OK!
Nata160
Quote: Mona1

Different leavens need different temperatures. For example, I love kefir and sour cream, but they need 30 degrees. No pads will help here, only a thermostat. And in the summer, when it’s hot, it’s much hotter in the yoghurt maker than it’s now, there are also difficulties with overheating. And about the fact that modern yogurt makers are good at maintaining factory settings, so I doubt it. The early is mostly better than the new. Perhaps you are lucky and your yoghurt maker does not overheat so much and you can cope with a simple lining of cardboard. And if you buy now a modern Moulinex, then without a regulator it will definitely not give the required fermentation temperature, because 55 degrees (which is how much the girl who bought Moulinex recently intended, and not only her) can hardly be reduced with anything, except for a thermostat. You understand, we are not spending money here because of a good life on a regulator, which costs a third of a yogurt maker, we have just tried all methods of lowering the temperature, so we order and now everything is OK!
I am not yet a practitioner, but I have read a lot of theory, and I think without a thermostat, good, proper yogurt and other milk will not work ... but relying on the temperature regime of yogurt makers, court reviews, somehow it does not work out very well, of course there are yogurt makers that support the necessary temperature, but for each dairy product it is slightly different, but I want to make sour cream and yogurt, and kefir ... in other things, I repeat, All the right yoghurts!
Irene
Quote: naataa

Girls, good evening! Here, too, the question arose about buying a yogurt maker.In principle, everything is clear from the models, but once someone asked about a yogurt maker - a Hilton thermos, and somehow the people ignored him.

Yoghurt maker - choice, reviews, questions of operation (2)

Can really, than to fool around with thermostats, thermometers, substrates to buy some good thermos? Hostesses, after all, stopudovo, before buying a yogurt maker, someone was shamanizing with the same thermoses, casseroles with blankets, etc. Explain, please, why a yogurt maker with all her whims is better than a thermos? I feel like I was asking nonsense, but nevertheless, develop doubts and I went for a yogurt maker.
And I liked the idea of ​​a thermos))) I will try ... especially since I was making yogurt in a slow cooker))
Mona1
Quote: Irene

And I liked the idea of ​​a thermos))) I'll try ... especially since I was making yogurt in a slow cooker))
Try it, tell me how it is. Perhaps he will keep the temperature if 3-4 hours. It still depends on the thermos. I have a thermos - if you pour boiling water at 100 degrees in the morning, then during the day there is no more than 70. That is, it cools down. And some leavens are made for 8 hours, will it work? But if we assume that the temperature will not change, then how to find out if it is fermented or not. The yogurt maker and the glasses are transparent, pushed into the barrel and you can immediately see how it sways - like milk or like thick, and on the walls of the jars, if such wrinkles appear, then overexposure is coming. And I also like to have it in portions, and not in one container.
By the way, if you use a thermos for yogurt, then I read somewhere that then the lactic acid smell cannot be hammered, that is, you want to brew, for example, a rosehip, but it will smell sour. Therefore, it is advisable to have then a separate thermos for sour milk.
But really, consider whether it's worth it. It's all so awkward. But if it's cooked, then how can it be poured into something, I need to put it in the refrigerator so that the yogurt cools down quickly after cooking. But what about a thermos? I can't say, maybe who did it.
Aygul
And what? I did it in a thermos in general, but, naturally, a thermos needs to be with a wide neck and keep the temperature well. Mine meets these requirements, yoghurt and other starter cultures were made in 6-8 hours. To find out what is fermented is very simple - we open it, check it.
As for the smell - I used this thermos only for sour milk, so I didn't even pay attention to the smells. I still make sour cream in a thermos. My yogurt maker has no temperature control for her.
Here it is ready. What's next? Quite calmly pour into portioned cans of a convenient size (+ wide neck) and put them in the refrigerator, wash the thermos.
The only negative is that the yogurt does not turn out so that the spoon is standing. If you do it right away in jars, then it's worth it, and when we pour the finished yogurt, the structure of the clot is slightly disturbed and a spoon is no longer worth it
Rick
Girls! Tell me please! A relative wants to buy a yoghurt maker, she looked at a tefal for 5 thousand on a yulmart. But I just think it makes sense to buy such an expensive one? Or there are some extras in it. functions are there? And in general, what would you advise to buy?
igorechek
Why so expensive? A yogurt maker, like a double boiler, belongs to the most elementary kitchen appliances, and the extra bells and whistles are just pulling out money.
I need a yoghurt maker to unload the multicooker, because cooking takes a long time, 10 hours each. And if you need to make another fermented milk, then a multicooker is quite suitable for the same 5000.
Manna
Zhenechka, well, there are two options. Option one is to buy the simplest one and a thermostat for it (the most popular option). Option two - Brand 4001 (I can't say anything about the second model), while it didn't overheat anyone.
Rick
I also think that such an expensive device is not needed, the main thing is that it works without breakdowns and does not overheat.
Mannochka! I also immediately told her about Brand, because I read the girls' reviews, and she says, well, she really liked the tefal. it happens with us, women I just thought, maybe someone who has one, will tell you what is so fantastic about it so that the price would correspond
Thanks for answers!
Marina 9
I also want to buy a yogurt maker for everyone, although for now I make yogurt in a slow cooker. I want to buy Yoghurt Maker Saturn ST-FP8512 someone can tell us about it. It has a capacity of 8 pcs, 200 ml each, and another 3.5 l capacity for cottage cheese. Please tell me I read about Brand 4001 on your forum and made sure that outwardly it is the same with Saturn.
Lakki
Does anyone have a DEX 157 yogurt maker? It's just that it's not realistic to re-read so many pages at once, but it is urgently needed, while the action (130 UAH). It's just that at the beginning of Temka, everyone read such an impression only mulinexes, etc., that is, expensive, it would be cheaper for me. Please advise.
Irene
I, nevertheless, gave up the thought of a thermos)) mine will not keep an even temperature, probably, but I don't want to buy one more specially, so there is a lot of rubbish
My question is: girls, where do you get these Brands?
Mona1
Quote: Lakki

Does anyone have a DEX 157 yogurt maker? It's just that it's not realistic to re-read so many pages at once, but it is urgently needed, while the action (130 UAH). It's just that at the beginning of Temka, everyone read such an impression only mulinexes, etc., that is, expensive, it would be cheaper for me. Please advise.
DEX 108 is the most non-overheating, but they still buy a thermostat later. And this one must, of course, be taken for such a price, especially if there is none yet. By the way, the Dex company has an exchange guarantee for small household appliances. For 24 months. That is, if something happens to the yogurt maker during this period, for example, then it is not repaired, but replaced with a new one. And if there is none, then they will give the money. But here it is in advance to discuss with the seller, because some of the shadow on the fence can lead. I have a Dex multicooker, a mixer, and a kitchen scale for my daughter-in-law. But so far everything works.
Lakki
Quote: Mona1

DEX 108 is the most non-overheating, but they still buy a thermostat later. And this one must, of course, be taken for such a price, especially if there is none yet. By the way, the Dex company has an exchange guarantee for small household appliances. For 24 months. That is, if something happens to the yogurt maker during this period, for example, then it is not repaired, but replaced with a new one. And if there is none, then they will give the money. But here it is in advance to discuss with the seller, because some of the shadow on the fence can lead. I have a Dex multicooker, a mixer, and a kitchen scale for my daughter-in-law. But so far everything works.
Thank you very much for your answer, since it's normal, so we'll take it. Somewhere it will be necessary to look for a thermostat, but it will probably be later, but for now we will learn to sculpt yoghurts, somehow dumb, a little, I read: some have too much acid, others have a liquid-kapets, how to find the golden mean ?! Sourdoughs are also riddles, you have to buy and quietly reread the whole topic. And also a question-power is not enough 10W?
Mona1
Quote: Lakki

And also a question-power is not enough 10W?
It seems to be almost a copy of Arietka, look here:
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There is also 10 watts. I once read that in it in winter, when it is cold in the apartment, it can be underheated, the power is usually slightly higher in other yogurt makers. The top was covered with a terry towel.
And do not put it in drafts yet. A round one would be more practical, since the heat is better distributed in a round one.
But on the other hand, if the apartment is warm in winter, and at other times of the year, when it is hot, then there is a chance that it will not overheat, the thermostat may not be needed. Moreover, again, you have to take it for such a price. When you buy a yoghurt maker, it will be better to ask questions about starter cultures in Temka about Bacterial starter cultures. But you will have to buy the normal ones right away, the Italian ones are very good, the Bulgarian ones are there, the Ukrainian VIVOs, and others. In the same Temka, you can ask around where to buy them. You just indicate in your profile what city or country you are from, so that you can advise. I guessed that from Ukraine, since you buy Dex. It is only for sale in Ukraine.
irysska
And I would not buy Dex 157 - 10W is still not enough. I would take Dex 108 - it is more practical - and a suitable bowl to cram, and small vessels (and in a rectangular one it is very problematic).
And yet - if the yogurt maker overheats, then a thermostat will help.But if you do not warm up (which is still possible with a low power of 10W) ​​- the thermostat will not help, you will have to wrap it up or something else to invent.
My opinion is that the Dex 157 model is not practical, you can't even upgrade it to fit your needs (Tanyushka-Mona knows how I tuned my 108, and even now I have it tuned to fit a liter glass jar)
Lakki
Quote: irysska

And I would not buy Dex 157 - 10W is still not enough. I would take a Dex 108 - more practical - and a suitable bowl to cram, and a bowl (and in a rectangular one it is very problematic).
And yet - if the yogurt maker overheats, then a thermostat will help. But if you do not warm up (which is still possible with a low power of 10W), the thermostat will not help, you will have to wrap it up or something else to invent.
My opinion is that the Dex 157 model is not practical, you can't even upgrade it to fit your needs (Tanyushka-Mona knows how I tuned my 108, and even now I have it tuned to fit a liter glass jar)
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Well, what should I do now !!!!!!!!!? I was about to order, but here "10W is not enough", that's it, the night is gone. Thoughts, my thoughts!
irysska

but you can take a chance ... and then you will see how it will be, but everything will be fine

PS I don't even like the rectangular shape anymore - that's absolutely not practical for me, and the power is 10W - I definitely won't say anything here, since my yogurt maker has a power of 20W (about possible underheating is an assumption, no more)
sankai
Yoghurt maker - choice, reviews, questions of operation (2)

Has anyone used such a yogurt steamer?
I'd love to hear feedback ...

Information from the site:
Yoghurt maker Philips HD 9141
Stylish multifunctional yoghurt maker with a steamer function that allows you to prepare not only delicious homemade yoghurts, cottage cheese and various desserts, but also various low-calorie steamed dishes

Type Yoghurt Maker
Body color Combined
Case material Plastic
Power, W 900
6 jars capacity
Jars material Glass
Volume, ml 900
The volume of one jar, ml 150
Extra options:
Features:
5 preset modes for preparing dairy products:
- portioned yoghurt (cooking time 6 - 10 hours)
- family portion of yoghurt (preparation time 6 - 10 hours)
- family portion of thick yogurt (cooking time 12 - 16 hours)
- cottage cheese (cooking time - about 33 minutes)
- milk dessert (cooking time 1 - 60 minutes)
Family portion bowl (2 L)
Drainage bowl for curd
Steamer function
Steaming time range: 1 to 60 minutes
Digital display with countdown
Water filling hole
Sound indication of the end of cooking
Automatic shutdown function
Descaling indication
Indication of the need to top up water
Book of recipes

Dimensions:
Dimensions (H x W x D), mm 330 x 310 x 200
Weight, kg 2
Manufacturer website www.philips.com
Packing size 270 x 270 x 400 mm, weight 4 kg
AlenaDS
girls, here's an inexpensive thermostat, and a thermometer, and leavens. 🔗
Lakki
Why doesn't it open?
AlenaDS
I do not know ... I go from both maxton and google chrome 🔗 everything opens ...
Lakki
Opened. Have you used this store? And what are the good leavens?
Irene
Awww, audience !!! So someone will answer where you can buy Brand yogurt maker?
Mona1
Quote: Irene

Awww, audience !!! So someone will answer where you can buy Brand yogurt maker?
Everything is very simple. In Google, write in the search bar:
buy yogurt maker Brand
And a bunch of links will come out. Choose in Russia, where it is convenient for you. Here is the first one that came across
Irene
Thank you))) I somehow guess about Google, I don't live in the forest .. I just wanted to learn the experience of the experienced ... well, since this is so intimate, I will google, of course))
Melanyushka
Irina, well, what a secret there, it's just that we all live in different places and are looking for the necessary devices closer to home. I just start with online stores in my city, and only then I consider options for further delivery.And first I try to look at the unit I need in a retail store, turn it over in my hands, touch it, in order to understand it, I need to think about it, or look at something similar.
Mona1
Quote: Irene

Thank you))) I somehow guess about Google, I don't live in the forest .. I just wanted to learn the experience of the experienced ... well, since this is so intimate, I will google, of course))
Do not be offended, I did not want to offend you. It's just that Russia is big, the people are silent, because it is necessary that not only someone has Brandt, but also that the person lives near your place of residence, and even if this is so, then he bought a yoghurt maker, most likely not the other day or within a month or two, or maybe a long time ago. And in stores, the assortment is constantly changing. Today there is such a thing, but not tomorrow. Those who already have a yoghurt maker do not monitor stores, they do not care if they are somewhere or not. So it's sometimes easier to find it yourself. You can also enter the name of the city, then there will be fewer links, but the nearest shops will be displayed. Good luck in finding!

Oops, while I was writing, Melanyushka voiced the same thoughts.
Irene
Okay, I'm not offended
I ordered Brand 4001 on Ozone. I'll wait. I compared it with 4002, the difference is in the number of cans (as I understood), in 4002 there are 12, and in 4001 - 7. I have enough seven for now)). Eh, and I'm on the rise ...
AlenaDS
Lakki! I often buy starter cultures from Alena, the owner of a sourdough store. You just need to cook properly. Kefir and biokefir require a temperature of 28 degrees. Ryazhenka (I use baked milk), bioyogurt at 38-40. I use UHT milk. Lazy. I pour three liters of cold milk straight into the multicooker bowl, add the leaven from Alena, stir and set for seven to eight hours. But when I buy vivo starter cultures, I need to heat the milk to a warm state. I took a thermometer for yoghurt in the same place. The owner of the shop is a very friendly woman. And what I like, he will always advise, prompt. There are tons of recommendations on her website. I have been using it for about six months already. Try it, maybe it will suit you. This is what I took, and what our children like and recommend.
Lakki
Thanks for the answer. Today my yogurt maker arrives, we will experiment. And another little question, is this not a wholesale store? I somehow paid 100 UAH. a bit too much (somewhere like this information slipped through, or I read it like that).
sankai
Quote: Irene

Awww, audience !!! So does anyone answer where you can buy Brand yogurt maker?

I use search all the time
almost always you can read reviews about a product or store.
indeed, if they wrote which city, the people would have responded more actively ...

Irene
Quote: sankai

I use search all the time
almost always you can read reviews about a product or store.
indeed, if they wrote which city, the people would have responded more actively ...

so in my profile the city is indicated)))
okay, yesterday they sent me a message that in 9 days I can receive my brand
Mona1
Quote: Lakki

Thanks for the answer. Today my yogurt maker arrives, we will experiment. And another little question, is this not a wholesale store? I somehow paid 100 UAH. a bit too much (somewhere like this information slipped through, or I read it like that).
VIVO starter cultures feel very good in the freezer. When I bought a yogurt maker, I bought so many of them that they were stored there for a year and a half and slowly used. During this time, they have not changed in the freezer. So you can take for 100 UAH, so as not to order often and not pay extra for delivery. From VIVO, the most delicious are Streptosan and Simbilakt. If as the first complementary food for babies - then Vitalakt. We did it for ourselves. But he is so gentle, but I wanted something more plump. But yogurt from VIVO is sour, so I don't take it, but now I take Italian GoodFood yogurt. Well, this, of course, is not for everybody.
AlenaDS
Lakki, no, if you order for 100 UAH. By new mail cash on delivery, the hostess pays the shipping costs. Also Ukrposhta. Here's another site for you, I also take it here. There at least 50 UAH. order, delivery will be all the same. 🔗
Lakki
Girls, thanks for the answers.
Irene
And my Brand came to me))) today I'm going to pick it up ... on Ozone - 5 days .. okay, if I pick it up, I'll immediately cook yogurt))
Irene
in short, I started the process of making yoghurt))) loaded it yesterday night ... today I think I'll try it ... I tried it, I forgot to press the start button, it turns out. Naturally, in the jars, the substance is small, thickened, but liquid and cold. I charged again for 12 hours and went to work. Let's see what one blind man said.
Taia
Quote: Irene

I charged again for 12 hours and went to work. Let's see what one blind man said.
What kind of leaven do you have that you have to put on for 12 hours?
Irene
Quote: Taia

What kind of leaven do you have that you have to put on for 12 hours?
it was me who tested the new yogurt maker by the poke method, because there was no time to read)) Ordinary sourdough _Evitalia, it lay in the refrigerator for almost a year. But nothing. I came home, the gourmet maker had already turned off, the experiment took place)) in jars - a delicate yummy. But a little bit of water completely disappeared. Still, it took so long to ferment ... Next time I will do it without frills))))
Pity
Good day!
girls. no strength to read all topics ..
can someone tell me if there are yogurt makers where you can set the desired T

I read something. like the reviews liked Moulinex. maybe someone knows, do they have such models?
Mona1
Quote: Pity

Good day!
girls. no strength to read all topics ..
can someone tell me if there are yogurt makers where you can set the desired T

I read something. like the reviews liked Moulinex. maybe someone knows, do they have such models?
There is no such thing either among the Mulinexes, or in general, or rather, one is called VIVO Thermomaster, but it is in Ukraine and there you can set the mode to 30 degrees, 36 and 42. That's it. There is no other temperature. Therefore, here the majority of people buy a yoghurt maker and a separate thermostat for it. Only at the same time it is necessary to take the cheapest yoghurt maker, so that there is no automatic shutdown in it, otherwise the thermostat will not be able to adapt. And the Mulinexes seem to overheat a lot without a regulator. If you take it, then one that at least not overheats so much, then it may turn out to do with all sorts of substrates on the bottom, maybe the thermostat will not be needed. In Russia, I've heard, Brandt is praised. I just do not know if there is no automation.
Pity
Mona, thanks!
girls, I'm moaning again: share pliz who has which models are these simpler ones so that you can adapt the Regulator?
AlenaDS
here's a vivo yogurt maker in St. Petersburg 🔗
euge
In my opinion 12 hours is too much, especially for a thickening yogurt. I look at the state of the yogurt after 5h30 minutes from turning on the yogurt maker, if the yogurt is still liquid, after 30 minutes I look. As a rule, I turn off the yogurt maker more often, and leave the yogurt in the cooling yogurt maker. There is enough residual heat to bring the yoghurt to the desired thickness. I have never done more than 6-7 hours.
Irene
Quote: eugeша

In my opinion 12 hours is too much, especially for a thickening yogurt. I look at the state of the yogurt after 5h30 minutes from turning on the yogurt maker, if the yogurt is still liquid, after 30 minutes I look. As a rule, I switch off the yogurt maker more often, and leave the yogurt in the cooling yogurt maker. There is enough residual heat to bring the yoghurt to the desired thickness. I have never done more than 6-7 hours.

a lot, of course))) the whole trick is that I charged the yogurt maker for the night for 6 hours, but forgot to press the start button and by the morning everything was cold. I work and do not have the opportunity to control the process, therefore, having estimated that it takes time to warm up and the further process, given the old age of the starter, I, without hesitation, put the yogurt maker to the maximum)))) the experiment, in general, was a success. The yogurt turned out great, but some of the glasses had just a little bit of whey on top, literally a drop. that's all)) next time I'll be careful
Lakki
Hello. Something I can't do with yoghurts I do with Prostokvashino sourdough, for 1 liter. milk 150g.sourdough, I heat it up to 35g, put it for 3-4 hours, the result is that the cheese is separated, and it turns out like a curdled mass, it does not affect the taste, but ... I control the process all the time, after 3 hours it starts to thicken, and so it is liquid all the time ... This was the situation with actimel. What is the reason? I already tried to heat milk more and less the same result. Help
Melrose
Girls, save! Killed all the lids from the jars of the yogurt maker Moulinex 230. Where can you buy a set?
Irene
I'm just crazy about Brand-4001, crazy yogurts

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