Mona1
Quote: mashustik

The fact of the matter is that during the examination, I noticed that the panel is easily soiled and there is no film, but no other points (traces, scratches) were found, they said about the cover that it should be so. And I read about the film already in the manual - at home. In accordance with our legislation, money will not be returned for such equipment just like that! An online store can still go for this, but so it is necessary to prove a technical malfunction and the impossibility of repair. In general, I continue to "sit on treason."
For example, there was no film on the Toshibov thermopot either, but the packaging did not raise any questions.
But if it is in the manual, then it is necessary to demand a complete set. There is a very specific reason for returning HP to them. We must go and demand a replacement. Until 14 days have passed. I'm sure they will change or return the money. Maybe they expect that a person will not pay attention and will ride everything. If you resist, tell them that you will contact the Panasonic dealership and drop it on their store. On the Panasonic website, you can see if this store is their official distributor. If it is, then Panasonic will bring them to their senses if you complain there.
mechanic
Tomorrow I'll try to contact the Panasonic hotline by phone, and I have already sent them a letter (in the sense of the representative office). Media Markt is indeed one of the sellers of this technique. Let's see what the answer is.
Grunt
You have built me. My display also has nothing glued.
Okay. Let's hope it will work out.
From the recipes I got hooked on mixed with oatmeal. Only instead of milk powder I add a spoonful of lemon juice. It turns out very porous.
Deep
I didn't have a protective film either. For the first time I hear what should be. There was a colored sticker on the case, yes. And there was nothing on the scoreboard.
mechanic
Quote: Grunt

You have built me. My display also has nothing glued.
Okay. Let's hope it will work out.
From the recipes I got hooked on mixed with oatmeal. Only instead of milk powder I add a spoonful of lemon juice. It turns out very porous.
What store did you buy from?
My husband, for example, doesn’t care, and doesn’t bother with such trifles. He believes that it is quite possible that they are being sold because the integrity of the packaging of this batch has been violated, so they are trading at the price of an online store.
But since I am a pregnant woman, I generally react to everything very sharply, I used to be calmer, so my faithful does not argue with me much and does not resist my activity.
mechanic
Quote: Deep

I didn't have a protective film either. For the first time I hear what should be. There was a colored sticker on the case, yes. And there was nothing on the scoreboard.
There is no colored sticker on the case, the panel is black with Russified buttons and inscriptions, nothing is sealed with a film on the LCD itself either.
Deep
Quote: mashustik

There is no colored sticker on the case, the panel is black with Russified buttons and inscriptions, nothing is sealed with a film on the LCD itself either.
I have a 2501 model. There was a sticker on it:

Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (2)

And your model may not be. But about the tape on the scoreboard .. where did you get the info? Who has seen this tape?
Deep
And no, you are also supposed to:

Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (2)

But don't be discouraged mechanic... Little things this)
mechanic
No, there is no such sticker on the case either. The protective film is described in the description for the bread maker. Almost the first point, they suggest removing the protective film.
For a very long time I have not bought equipment in ordinary stores, because it is more expensive and may not be of high quality. In particular, we go to MM only to see the equipment in real life, but we buy everything through the tyrnet. And then my husband caught fire with a bread maker, and the price is acceptable, so they bought it.Yes, I understand with reason that this can be complete garbage and the manufacturer himself canceled all these films and colored stickers, but my pregnant worm of doubt does not allow me to calm down. Two years ago, we bought a TV like this, and when you found out that the seller misled us, they could not return or change it, since then only an independent choice and purchase via the Internet.
Deep
mechanic, well, if there is no damage to the scoreboard, then maybe you shouldn't get hung up. The stove shows that it is new.
mechanic
Quote: Deep

mechanic, well, if there is no damage to the scoreboard, then maybe you shouldn't get hung up. The stove shows that it is new.
For today, it's definitely time to calm down, if the representatives of Panasonic answer me, I will write.
In general, they reassured me a little that I was not the only one without film and stickers.
Deep
It's not even a detail, but part of the packaging, in fact. In general, I only found out about the film today) The main thing is that the stove bakes and bakes very tasty
Mona1
Quote: mashustik

For today, it's definitely time to calm down, if the representatives of Panasonic answer me, I will write.
In general, they reassured me a little that I was not the only one without film and stickers.
You all the same, if Panasonic does not answer in writing, then call yourself and ask if the lack of a film means that the stove was opened and repaired, or the factory can supply stoves without a film.
Baker
Good day to all!
Immediately I would like to apologize for creating a new topic, which with 100% probability has already been discussed more than once. But everyone on the forum is so friendly that I can't find a concrete opinion behind the conversation.
Like many, there was a choice between the 2500, 2501, 2502 models. Share, pzhlst, your experience of the pros and cons of these HPs. I also want to knead the dough for pies and dumplings and bread for different families to bake. What to choose? And where is it better to buy that the price was acceptable and there was no marriage? Thank you all in advance!
Vilapo
Quote: Pekarchikha

Good day to all!
Immediately I would like to apologize for creating a new topic, which with 100% probability has already been discussed more than once. But everyone on the forum is so friendly that I can't find a concrete opinion behind the conversation.
Like many, there was a choice between the 2500, 2501, 2502 models. Share, pzhlst, your experience of the pros and cons of these HPs. I also want to knead the dough for pies and dumplings and bread for different families to bake. What to choose? And where is it better to buy that the price was acceptable and there was no marriage? Thank you all in advance!
Baker, it's normal when everyone praises their model and considers their choice to be correct. And no one will do the choice of the xn model for you either: girl_in_dreams: Must read temku according to these models and decide for yourself which model you will be comfortable with Everybody tries to buy in online stores, they are still cheaper, and no one is immune from marriage. Good choice
* Anyuta *
Oh,Rina, ban me better right away ... And then I'll get out of my way .... On Friday I didn't have time ... and now I WILL POST you my photo report on yeast ... ... if anything, scold me right away (for mistakes). ...
* Anyuta *
I think the comments are superfluous ... therefore, SIMPLY look!
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* Anyuta *
Rinochka, yes, I would gladly buy a smaller one ... HEMA ... you won't find it with fire in the daytime (apparently, it is not profitable for moonshiners to take in small batches) ... So I gave my mom a piece .. because I can use this good O-O-O A very long time...
Baker
Vilapo, thanks! Probably, indeed, any choice is a harbinger of experience.
Giraffe
And I buy it all the time.
olvina
Quote: mashustik

For today, it's definitely time to calm down, if the representatives of Panasonic answer me, I will write.
In general, they reassured me a little that I was not the only one without film and stickers.

Girls!! When we bought a stove (if you remember in a magic warehouse), my husband also got to this very film, and so, IT WAS NOT ON ANY OF THE OVENS! and we opened them (boxes with stoves) about eight at random. If anyone remembers the husband found what to do and the discount was still increased for us. There was a picture on my 2501, but there was no film on the display. A friend who bought 2502 replied that there was no film either and there was no picture, but the stove was working great and the friend was sleeping peacefully.
olvina
Quote: * Annie *

Rinochka, yes, I would gladly buy a smaller one ... NEMA ... you won't find it with fire in the daytime (apparently, it is not profitable for moonshiners to take in small batches) ... So I gave my mom a piece .. because I have to use this good O-O-O-O-CHEN for a long time ...
And our moonshiners, you see, have become too hungry, there are two types of yeast in Auchan and both my husband dragged in, both types have already been tested. Thank you girls for the sourdough recipe, the bread tastes different, we like it! In general, I will not play enough with the stove, the panachka, probably, is no longer happy that I got to such a tormentor.


Vilapo
Quote: Pekarchikha

Vilapo, thanks! Probably, indeed, any choice is a harbinger of experience.
* Anyuta *
I also had a display without a film ... I remember 100% ... they took it from an Internet store
* Anyuta *
and yesterday I made a cupcake for sour cream from this site ... the recipe was incorrect .. shorter than the cupcake screwed up .. BUT .. still ate everything ... well, my HP was puffing in vain or what ?!
Giraffe
Quote: * Annie *

and yesterday I made a cupcake for sour cream from this site ... the recipe was incorrect .. in short, the cupcake was screwed up ..

Where is the link to the recipe?
mechanic
Quote: olvina

Girls!! When we bought a stove (if you remember in a magic warehouse), my husband also got to this very film, and so, IT WAS NOT ON ANY OF THE OVENS! and we opened them (boxes with stoves) about eight at random. If anyone remembers the husband found what to do and the discount was still increased for us. There was a picture on my 2501, but there was no film on the display. A friend who bought 2502 replied that there was no film either and there was no picture, but the stove was working great and the friend was sleeping peacefully.


Thanks for the answers, today I somehow already react more calmly to everything, the fuse has passed! Although yesterday I found a small scratch on the side of the lid, I decided to wait a bit with it. And this morning she told her husband about her, so it turns out he also saw her yesterday, but decided to keep silent "out of harm's way"! He said that since I was so worried about the lack of film, it was better not to stutter about the scratch.
I went to master the basics of making bread, using live yeast.
Lagri
Quote: * Annie *

I think the comments are superfluous ... therefore, SIMPLY look!
* Anyuta *, well done! Everything is beautifully and accurately packaged. I want to give this advice: if you store yeast wrapped in a film in the freezer, then for further use you need to put (frozen) several such "cubes" in advance and put in the refrigerator (2-3 pieces, you never know something urgently needs to be done), so that they defrost in the refrigerator and not in the room, they will become soft and easier to use. Somehow I decided to crumble the frozen ones right away, I didn’t succeed (it was all wrapped in watery yeast and then washed off with water, well, less got into the dough).
* Anyuta *
Quote: giraffe

Where is the link to the recipe?

In short, I looked around the site, I could not find the link ... but I remember the recipe and so ...

1 glass of sour cream
1 cup of sugar
1.5 cups flour
2 eggs
1.5 teaspoons of baking soda, slaked vinegar

Well, then a comment on the recipe .. like blah .. blah ... blah ... no need to whip .. bake so much, the program for kneading is this, for baking this (the recipe is adapted for Panas) ... comb .. butter can be replaced with margarine ..... After these comments, I was a little fry in bewilderment ... WHERE IS THE OIL IN THE RECIPE? .. well, the whole pack poured out (that is, the recipe brought it closer to what is in the manual) ... And in the end the dough it was VERY thin and the cake was oiled ...
Lagri
Yes, this is more like a sour cream.
* Anyuta *
here from the camera down I dropped a couple of pictures of my first "bread" ... I don't remember where which one ...

I think it was French ...
Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (2)...

This, obviously, is some kind of cake (we can make a cake for testing ... I recognize it by raisins ...)
Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (2)

This is bread "on tomato paste"
Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (2)

And this, in my opinion, wheat-rye from the manual to HP
Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (2)

This correspondence is INCORRECT ... since I do not remember 100% where which ...
Lagri
Quote: Mona1

We didn't even remove this film ourselves, it's so plump, it's not a film, but transparent plastic. It seems to me that it is here on purpose so that flour or something else does not get into the cracks between the buttons.
And we tried to take it off, but it doesn't take off, we didn't fight. And the instructions say: "The protective film can be removed and thrown away." We liked it too - and worth it. It says "can", not "need".
* Anyuta *
Girls, so you will not tear off the THICK film .. it is "PROTECTIVE" ... so that the keys are not erased ...
Mona1
Quote: Lagri

And we tried to take it off, but it doesn't take off, we didn't fight.And the instructions say: "The protective film can be removed and thrown away." We liked it too - and it's worth it. It says "can", not "need".
And we didn't even notice about deleting in the instructions. So it is with the film. Recently I see - her corner is slightly lifted up, so I invited him to not bulge out. The film is really better. How many times have I poke buttons with wet hands, in flour, and in dough. Then he periodically wiped the film with a damp cloth, everything is like new. And without it, all the dirt would have been hammered into the cracks near the buttons. We have it on the washing machine. So the buttons are already being pressed with a squeak.
Lagri
Quote: Mona1

And without it, all the dirt would have been hammered into the cracks near the buttons. We have it on the washing machine. So the buttons are already being pressed with a squeak.
I completely agree.
That is why I also do not shoot, but they wanted to shoot out of curiosity. And I stuck the film myself on the washing machine. Certainly not as beautiful as on Panasonic, but the panel is as good as new.
Quote: * Annie *

Girls, so you will not tear off the THICK film .. it is "PROTECTIVE" ... so that the keys are not erased ...
I didn't know about it, I will know ...
* Anyuta *
Quote: Lagri

Yes, this is more like a sour cream.

this looked ... (Damn, I don’t cook, but I do some photo reports in the kitchen)

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* Anyuta *
Ban me, ban me, for the fact that FLUDY is here for you ... .. but still I can't help but say ..
On Friday, when I came home from work (when I was showing you the mug) .. I caught myself thinking that I - PANASONICOVER both by vocation and by conviction ... Here is the proof ...

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Lagri
And a slow cooker yet?
Mona1
Quote: * Annie *

Damn, I don’t cook, but I am engaged in some photo reports in the kitchen)
I have the same song. The husband is already afraid to eat. Waiting for me to bark: Do not eat until I have photographed!
* Anyuta *
Quote: Lagri

And a slow cooker yet?

Well, I don't consider MV and HP anymore ..
* Anyuta *
It appears like this .. until they banned me .. fugach on my photo reports ...
* Anyuta *
Pies stuffed with apples and pears (Mesila HP, baked in the oven ...)
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* Anyuta *
and this is a pie made from the same dough as the pies in the photo above (dough in HP, pie in MV)
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And this is how the pie was understood 30 minutes after the start of baking ... (I have a 4.5 liter saucepan)
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The final photo of the pie can be seen here ... Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (2)
Mona1
Delicious. But I've got the knack for baking Ossetian pies. I knead in HP. I bake in the oven on a stone. I want to take a picture and it doesn't work. I do not have time or the light is not the same in the evening, or I forgot.
Lagri
Quote: * Annie *

And this is how the cake was understood 30 minutes after the start of baking ... (I have a 4.5 liter saucepan)
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Is it tasty from yeast dough in a mullet? How from the oven? Or a different taste? In the same place, the top is not fried ... Or then you can brown it in the airfryer))
badito
There was no film on the display and the sticker was still pasted, I did not remove it
marinastom
Today I baked bread from premium wheat 300 g, ordinary rye 50 g and Gallic mixture 50 g, salt 1 tsp, honey 1 tbsp. l. dry yeast 1 tsp, kefir 1% approx. 260ml When kneading, it seemed thick, I added more from Art. l. water. Baked on program 01, on a light crust. It turned out delicious. but somehow "rubbery". What could be the mistake? And one more thing: an hour and a half before the end I tried to even out the dough in a bucket a little, it seemed suspiciously sticky to me for wheat. Maybe because of the kefir?
Deep
Quote: marinastom

Today I baked bread from premium wheat 300 g, ordinary rye 50 g and Gallic mixture 50 g, salt 1 tsp, honey 1 tbsp. l. dry yeast 1 tsp, kefir 1% approx. 260ml When kneading, it seemed thick, I added more from Art. l. water. Baked on program 01, on a light crust. It turned out delicious. but somehow "rubbery". What could be the mistake? And one more thing: an hour and a half before the end I tried to even out the dough in a bucket a little, it seemed suspiciously sticky to me for wheat. Maybe because of the kefir?
Try adding a little oil to avoid the "rubberiness". The rye flour made the dough sticky.
Giraffe
Quote: Lagri

* Anyuta *, well done! Everything is beautifully and accurately packaged. I want to give this advice: if you store yeast wrapped in a film in the freezer, then for further use you need to put (frozen) several such "cubes" in advance and put in the refrigerator (2-3 pieces, you never know something urgently needs to be done), so that they defrost in the refrigerator and not in the room, they will become soft and easier to use.Somehow I decided to crumble the frozen ones right away, I didn't succeed (it was all wrapped in watery yeast and then washed off with water, well, less got into the dough).

I immediately crumble a kg of yeast and take it immediately by weight. I don't pre-thaw, they immediately start to melt in the form, I immediately turn on the program. And more often I do a preliminary batch, and then I set the main program.
* Anyuta *
Quote: Lagri

Is it tasty from yeast dough in the mullet? How from the oven? Or a different taste? In the same place, the top is not fried ... Or then you can brown it in the airfryer))

There was a separate story ...

The cake has risen to such a size ... But the thought crept into my head that it needs to be turned over with the help of a double boiler ... so I turned it over ... ..

An inverted invalid, see the photo below .... (and I also masked the cake so that all the "ugliness" would not be visible)
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he was all over and "blown away" .. apparently freaked out at me that I got into the cooking process ...

And the taste is no different from the oven .. only it gets out of the bowl easier!

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