Bread maker or slow cooker?

After reading this wonderful forum, I came to the conclusion that instead of a bread maker, it is more logical to purchase a multicooker with a baking function. The price is more affordable, the possibilities are wider, especially when baking rye bread. The efficiency of the multiarc is several times higher. The possibilities are enormous. Yes, you will have to knead with your hands, but this can only scare the housewives ala "Galina Blanca". Two or better three dispensers, 33 baking programs (instead of three really necessary ones) and as one happy owner of a Panasonic SD-2502 bread maker wrote here
- "The soul flew to heaven"
But what a paradise it is when a banal bun is at the exit (judging by the photo). You can't get real 100% rye bread in a bread maker, just ersatz. And the loaves are small, and in a slow cooker you can bake large loaves.
I have nothing against a bread machine, but I want a multicooker.
Or maybe I'm wrong?
Dear bakers, tell me, please, which multicooker is better suited for baking bread, especially rye?
What device can you use to knead the dough, if you feel sorry for someone's hands and time?

Dear bakers, tell me, please, which multicooker is better suited for baking bread, especially rye?
What device can you use to knead the dough, if you feel sorry for someone's hands and time?

Oven + strong kneading processor

[Yuri5]

Respected Yuri5, I'll start from the end.
How to knead the dough if you feel sorry for time and hands? Buy a kitchen machine or a dough mixer - it will cost three hundred dollars (see a suitable topic HERE).

Bake in a slow cooker? It is an ordinary electric pan with its own temperature limits. For example, it will not brown the top of the bread, it will not allow you to get exactly the bread crust. Want to bake in a saucepan? Please, you can pick up something even with temperature control (it seems that TM Brand has a cartoon with an adjustable temperature). See HERE about Brands, and HERE about baking in multicooker.

And for BAKING bread, you really need a normal oven.


In addition, there is no need to post the same message across the forum, it can be considered spam.

Thank you dear Rina for your answer!
I apologize for the spam, this is from inability, the second day on the site.
But let me argue, the principle of heating a bread machine and a multicooker is exactly the same, and both are just a saucepan.
In the latest models of multicooker, the function "Circular heating" began to appear - bottom, sides and top, as well as the ability to adjust the temperature. Perhaps it's still better than HP?

A bread maker, unlike a multicooker, kneads the dough.

A bread maker, unlike a multicooker, kneads the dough.

So I wrote about the batch.
It is a pity that it cannot mix.

Sometimes I bake bread in a slow cooker. In my opinion, it loses to a bread maker. Although tasty, airy, but not that crispy crust.

Yuri5
I understand that you really want a multicooker, which is logical: the range of programs and possibilities is wider, for a man it is almost a second wife
If I didn't have one or the other now, I would buy a multicooker. If necessary, buy a bread maker, besides, after proofing in a multicolor, you can always bake in the oven. Is there an oven? Duc, tada is more logical than cartoon. You are mainly interested in rye, so short mixes are needed for it, you will be a dough mixing machine. The decision is unambiguous in your case. From your words, cartoon is needed not only for bread. More logical - a multicooker.

In the latest models of multicooker, the function "Circular heating" began to appear - bottom, sides and top, as well as the ability to adjust the temperature.Perhaps it's still better than HP?

Which ones, for example? I also suffer from the problem of choice

the principle of heating a bread machine and a multicooker is exactly the same, and both are just a saucepan.
In the latest models of multicooker, the function "Circular heating" began to appear - bottom, sides and top, as well as the ability to adjust the temperature. Perhaps it's still better than HP?

You are a little wrong. In almost all multicooker, heating comes from the bottom, in some there is heating in the lid. In all bread makers, the ten is located just below the middle of the bucket and the bucket itself weighs as if in the air without touching the heating element, the principle of the oven is used.

Now it seems like there are multicooker with kneading dough, maybe it is worth buying only it or is it worth buying a multicooker and a bread maker separately?
I ask because I myself cannot decide what is better to buy.
Help.

[here about the Binatone BM-2170 Multi-Bread Maker]

If we mean a multi-cook bread maker, then they appeared a long time ago.
here about the Binatone BM-2170 Multi-Bread Maker

From my own experience (there is such a hybrid of the company UNOLD) - I do not recommend it! It is better to have a separate normal multicooker and a separate bread maker.

[Miss Raspberry]

Miss Raspberry, but buy yourself such an all-in-one multicooker. Then tell us and show the photo, and we will listen with interest and see.

Well, how many people have so many opinions.
And multi-cook Binaton is highly praised.

[Rina]

Rina, and to be honest, why don't you recommend a multi-cook, bakes badly and kneads the dough ?? The reviews are mostly positive.

[I categorically do not recommend such a unit as a basic technique !!!]

I have a German counterpart, those. higher quality performance. The cover fits properly.

Nonetheless:
I categorically do not recommend such a unit as a basic technique !!!

Now, for the first time in a long time, I will use the function of a bread machine, but, apparently, only kneading dough. I don’t like wheat bread on the main program (no comparison with Panas’s one), there is some kind of undercooking. The bucket flies off when kneading, you have to track it, regularly turn it into place.

Like a multicooker ... well, the basic mode works fine (but this mode works in the simplest rice cooker with a mechanical switch).
The "rice pudding" mode (milk porridge) has a very intense heating, because of the crust formed at the bottom, the sensor is turned off, that is, you have to watch out here too.
Soup mode - the broth turns out great if you put everything down and do not look again. If you add something during the cooking process, the broth will turn out cloudy (again, too strong a boil).
I absolutely do not like the "extinguishing" mode! In order for it to really work, food must float in a very liquid sauce. That is, again, there is a problem with the sensor, it turns off the program after 20 minutes. To stew the same lazy cabbage rolls, you have to turn on the mode three times. It's easier to cook in a slow cooker, at least it doesn't turn off.

What we liked, the "soup" and "stewing" mode (if they ended normally) do not go into heating! Unlike the same Panasonic

If the hybrid is in work, then it takes up one and a half times more space (you need to keep somewhere either a saucepan or a bread maker with all the personal belongings).

In general, if possible (as soon as we revive the main bread maker), the hybrid will go to the mezzanine or to the dacha, and instead I will buy the same dex-60, I have been sharpening my teeth on it for a long time

I could make a selection based on my calls, but I'll just write here.

1. As a multicooker hybrid is far from perfect. For example, he doesn't want me to stew with a little water. The product for Yunold should be SWIMMING in gravy, then the program will not shutdown itself after 10-15 minutes from the beginning (even if I set, say, two hours).
2. like a bread maker - up to Panasonic like up to the stars. There are problems with the attachment of the bucket in the working position - the bucket sometimes flies from the grooves during kneading, then the shaft drive (plastic part) begins to beat against the bucket shaft. It kneads the dough worse than in Panasonic.The top of the bread is always some kind of slightly flattened and pale.
3. The technique is semi-stationary - if you go somewhere, you won't take it with you, unlike a Panasonic multicooker or almost any other.
4. the place actually takes up not so little. If not used, then everything is compactly packed inside. But if at least one function is used, then the unused bucket / form needs to be stuck somewhere. As a result, a multi-cooker takes up little less space during operation than two separate units.

There are complaints about the quality of seals in analogs (binaton). There are many cases where the lid "leads" and a gap forms between the lid and the body.

In general, in my opinion, if possible, you need to take a separate bread maker and a separate multicooker.

Well, how many people have so many opinions.
And multi-cook Binaton is highly praised.

read the topic about binaton somewhere in the region of 20 pages.

[Rina]

Rina Thanks for the detailed answer!!!!!
And as I understand bread, do you recommend Panasonic ??

instead of it I'll buy the same dex-60, I've been sharpening my teeth on it for a long time

And what is this miracle?

Forgive me dear Yuri, but choosing between a slow cooker and a bread maker is the same as between shorts and boots! These things have different purposes. Multicooker - porridge, yogurt, soup, stew, etc. And the Bread Maker is specifically bread (white, bran, rye, muffin). If you want to get a quality product at the end, buy both. You can take not advertised, but high-quality equipment (the girls tested a lot of equipment)

[Miss Raspberry]

Miss Raspberryif finances allow, then Panasonic is the best choice today on the CIS market. It is beyond competition in terms of stability and quality of work and results. It has the least number of breakdowns (t-t-t), it is one of the quietest ovens in the batch (with the exception of model 2502, where the yeast dispenser ALWAYS works, which is quite loud and sharp). I'm not a fan, but Panasonic, as they say, FOREVA As I have already written more than once, if my 255th Panasonic is suddenly completely covered, then the next bread maker will only be Panasonic. My advice is model 2501.

Now there are different multi-cookers, you just need to navigate what is on the market and view and consult on the relevant topics. DEX-60 is a multicooker for the Ukrainian market. There is some kind of analogue, like Brand in Russia.

here on dex https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=174179.0

PS By the way, indicate in your profile where you are from. Then it will be easier to advise something or send you where you need to

[Rina]

Rina, then we will buy bread, while there is no room for both. Thank you very much for your prompt answers.

PS By the way, indicate in your profile where you are from. Then it will be easier to advise something or send you where you need to
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And how to do it? I am from Moscow

Go to your profile, indicate where you are from.
And if you like dex-60, then in Moscow you better buy Brand 37501 (Ukrainian lads have made an analogue)
you can see it (3 colors silver, cherry, champagne), you can also buy an additional bowl there.

there is such a button at the top of the page , click on it, then find the link "change profile", there you will find your way along the way.

my sister advised me the Panasonic SD-2501. Can I get your opinion ??

Now it seems like there are multicooker with dough kneading, maybe it is worth buying just it or is it worth buying a multicooker and a bread machine separately?
I ask because I myself cannot decide what is better to buy.
Help.

I have nothing against either HP or MV, but as one acquaintance says ..... the phone should RING, and the camera should be PHOTOGRAPHING!

* Anyuta *
your friend speaks well. : lol: Yes, I have already decided I will take the bread maker first, and then I'll see.
Immediately I can't master a slow cooker and a bread maker.

* Anyuta *
your friend speaks well. : lol: Yes, I have already decided I will take the bread maker first, and then I'll see.
Immediately I will not master a slow cooker and a bread maker.

At first I also had HP (the initial choice of HP was motivated by the fact that Easter was coming soon ...)

Now it seems like there are multicooker with dough kneading, maybe it is worth buying only it or is it worth buying a multicooker and a bread machine separately?
I ask because I myself cannot decide what is better to buy.
Help.

Well, if you sharpen your teeth only on holidays, and even then, only eating the cooked separately, well, one thing, since the time is not rubber in a day, then you can get by with a multicooker, the older model KuKuu, for example, bakes, bakes and fries very well.

And the plan and sequence of equipping the kitchen with helpers helps a lot.

Explain to an inexperienced person, please, put food in the bread maker, pressed the button, what's next?
and what is such a hitch? Pull out the dough and mash a little and again in HP?

I have nothing against either HP or MV, but as one acquaintance says ..... the phone should RING, and the camera should be PHOTOGRAPHING!

my brother says much the same. "I listen to music from a player, watch films on a normal screen, take pictures with a camera, and chop wood with an ax! I need a phone to call!"

Explain to an inexperienced person, please, put food in the bread maker, pressed the button, what's next?
and what is such a hitch? Pull out the dough and mash a little and again in HP?

put food in the bucket form, put the bucket in the oven, press the necessary buttons to start the desired program. Then the oven CAMA will knead the dough, give it a proofing, the required number of strokes, and bake it too! Any manual intervention is already for keen people. Many remain within the automatic programs.

[Rina]

Rina, but how to do a kneading and what is it

[Features of the Panasonic 254-257 bread makers]

in the bucket from the oven engine, the mixer rotates, which kneads the dough. Then the stove stops kneading, maintains the required temperature for raising the dough. A couple of times during this time, the mixer begins to rotate again, makes several movements so that the dough settles - to release the excess accumulated carbon dioxide. Then the stove again goes into a proofing state, and at the right time turns on the heating of the ten for baking. And the stove does all this within a given AUTOMATIC PROGRAM. All human intervention (ideally) is to put in the food, start the desired program and take out the finished bread. In fact, for some time, it is advisable for beginners to peep at the kneading in order to evaluate and get the dough of the correct consistency (simply due to the very different properties of even simple wheat flour). In general, if you want to understand the algorithm for starting work with the bread maker, then look at the information on these links (the yellow-green text is clickable links):

Panasonic bread makers have differences in performance compared to others.
Please do not be lazy to study the instructions.
If you have any questions, read the topic
Features of the Panasonic 254-257 bread makers.

Don't try or try to tackle an exotic bread recipe or quick baking program right away! Start with plain wheat bread on the main program!

Read "A guide to baking bread in a bread maker" and study "kolobok rule" (see the necessary links below, they are "clickable") - this is your minimum. Please note that recipes are often focused on a certain flour standard that the flour sold in our stores may not have! Therefore, the kolobok rule allows adjust the dough at the stage of mixing.

Nothing else is needed to start.

We read the rest already after obtaining at least the minimum, that is, the first experience with the bread maker!

Realize that food volume and weight are not the same thing!
250 milliliters (standard glass) is only 160 grams of flour!

On electronic scales, the scale can be either in kilograms or grams, or in ounces and pounds.Be careful!
In section Helpful hints and help in baking bread
there is beautiful UNDERSTANDING BREAD IN HOMEMADE BREAD,
pay special attention To the kolobok rule

All possible rules, errors and links to their solutions are considered in the topic
The bread did not work out again, I did everything strictly according to the recipe. What can be wrong?



Remember that ALL RECIPES for making bread in a bread machine are suitable for ALL MODELS of bread machines.

For beginners (and not only) there is a section "The easiest bread for bread maker models"which contains SIMPLE and affordable recipes for wheat and wheat-rye bread.

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Vector instruction manuals can be downloaded here:

Operating instructions SD-2501 and SD-2500:
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SD-ZB2502 Operating Instructions:
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Here Amount of flour and other ingredients for making bread of various sizes https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=1625.0

and here Recalculation of the number of ingredients in the bread recipe. Help for beginners https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=7646.0
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