Choosing a slow cooker, pressure cooker, rice cooker (2)

But fermented baked milk turns out like crème brulee.

I get such a crème brлеlée in baby redmond 01 in 5-6 hours. Right now it's worth it, I'll take it out soon

Light, and to be honest, I really like Redmond 01. But 02 Redik, something like that is not so. The soul did not go to 02.
And 01 dragged with me on vacation, well, I like about me, I made friends with him))

And for some reason it seemed to me that 02 should be better. More advanced or something. Can you fry at 01?

I also really like 01, and compared to 02, in my opinion, it has 2 significant advantages: a removable inner cover and a preliminary shutdown of heating. Since model 01 is positioned as a model for baby food, frying is not provided there, but you can still fry. I roasted the whole chicken, did the roasting. But 02 fries more actively.

And for some reason it seemed to me that 02 should be better. More advanced or something. Can you fry at 01?

You can fry, it turns out very tasty fried potatoes. The recipe is here.

I also really like 01, and compared to 02, in my opinion, it has 2 significant advantages: a removable inner cover and a preliminary shutdown of heating. Since model 01 is positioned as a model for baby food, frying is not provided there, but you can still fry. I roasted the whole chicken, did the roasting. But 02 fries more actively.

In short, here you have to think about which of the functions interests you more.

You can fry, it turns out very tasty fried potatoes. The recipe is here.

Wow, great. True, for a long time, of course ...
Girls, can I ask one question about cooking? I decided to try the soup for the first time, even the simplest one in the cartoon, in order to know how it's done. For example, chicken with noodles, and a little confused. In the recipe book it is suggested to cook for the "soup" function, and the noodles are boiled separately. And somewhere there was a recipe where they cook for only 10 minutes on a multi-cooker, then throw in the vermicelli and a little more on "heating". That is, it is somehow unclear whether it will cook in 10 minutes in the same way as on the "soup" function, or I still don't understand anything at all?

Greetings to the readers of the forum.
We almost agreed to buy a Brand 6051 multicooker with a friend, but we were confused by several recent reviews on Yandex Market. They state: "It is undoubtedly wonderful that this multicooker can cook under pressure, that is, like a pressure cooker, only unfortunately it takes a long time to gain pressure - 25 minutes, this is at a time when other multicooker can already cook a whole dish in the same 25 minutes , for which they are so loved. Cooking without pressure in this multicooker can only be with an open lid, and with an open lid I can cook in a saucepan. "
It is interesting to know the opinion of the owners of the multicooker, whether this is true. On this forum I have not seen such statements, rather the opposite - they write that pasta can be cooked in 5-10 minutes. As I understand it, then it is necessary to cook with the lid open?

It is interesting to know the opinion of the owners of the multicooker, whether this is true. I have not seen such statements on this forum, rather the opposite - they write that pasta can be cooked in 5-10 minutes. As I understand it, then it is necessary to cook with the lid open?

The owners of Brand 6051 will say more precisely, but about pasta they mean pure cooking time, without taking into account the pressure gain. And you won't be able to cook with an open lid in a termokovka, just fry.
I have a Brand 6060 pressure cooker, which gains pressure for 25-30 minutes, provided that an almost full bowl of cold water is poured, if you pour boiling water immediately, the pressure builds up faster.
Also note how the Brand 6051 starts the countdown - after the pressure is set or the pressure build-up time is included in the total cooking time that you set. The owners of Brand 6051 will definitely tell you this.

[Pressure set]

"It is undoubtedly great that this multicooker can cook under pressure, that is, like a pressure cooker, only unfortunately it takes a long time to gain pressure - 25 minutes, this is at a time when other multicooker can already cook a whole dish in the same 25 minutes, for which they they love it. Cooking without pressure in this multicooker is possible only with the lid open, and with the lid open I can cook in a saucepan. "

I have a feeling that this review was written by a person who has never seen the Brand 6051 multicooker-pressure cooker.
Pressure set in 6051 happens in a minute or two. And here heating the contents of the bowl can last 20-25 minutes. Anna wrote it correctly, this is if you pour a full cup of cold liquid.

On average, heating the contents + a set of pressure lasts 5-12 minutes. And already directly cooking the same pasta takes 3-6 minutes (depending on the manufacturer).
In a multicooker, not a pressure cooker, the food loaded into the bowl is heated in exactly the same time.

To speed up heating and pressure build-up, we (users) usually pour hot water, especially if something has been fried before and the bowl is still hot. So the program will start faster and there will be no "stress" for the bowl, that is, it will be more whole and will last longer.

And there is no need to cook with the lid open. Although 6051 is fried only with the lid open, this is a fact. Such protection against overheating at maximum temperatures.

If you need a multi-cooker mode, that is, so that the pressure does not build up, then set the temperature in Manual mode to 95 * C and the Quenching mode will be the most common, beloved by many and often used in almost all multicookers. At the same time, the lid will not be blocked - open it, try it, add whatever you like ...

Hello. I choose a multicooker for my mom while I decided on the brand. Panasonic.
She used to buy them a bread maker, she really likes it.
Tell me what is better to buy from a multicooker from Panasonic?
Panasonic SR-TMJ181-BTW

Panasonic SR-TMH181HTW

I don’t understand the difference, only that the body of the first is made of iron? Or maybe the other is better?
Thank you in advance.

We decided that it makes no sense for us to buy a pressure cooker now, it is better to use an ordinary multicooker. And it is better for 4-5 liters to use it for cooking for a week.
In addition, I saw this article today (and a dozen similar ones, with the difference that this is the most informative one): (I hope the moderators will not consider it an advertisement, the link is not active). It seems that there is not much difference between Chinese ceramics and Chinese Teflon. And we will not buy an expensive cartoon yet.
Therefore, now I am considering mainly these two models: Polaris PMC 0517AD and Panasonic SR-TMJ181. On the first side there is a ceramic coating (although it is unclear whether this is an advantage), a sufficient number of recipes, 3D heating: perhaps you can replace the microwave with a multicooker. On the second side - the manufacturer - not China (if you believe the manufacturer's website), a metal case, a better-known company, less weight (although this does not matter for us). Confused by the lack of a delayed start in the Polaris PMC 0517AD in the porridge cooking mode, but it seems that this drawback can be circumvented using a multi-cook. In addition, there are many reviews like this: "I can not boast that I put it and left, I always control the process and decide whether to add enough time or not? That's because the modes are somehow crooked, soup for one cooking does not work, you have to add and so on with almost everything. " Once again, I ask for advice from experienced multicookers.

[Compote]

Panasonic SR-TMJ181-BTW has two new modes: Compote and Dumplings.
But in the previous version Panasonic SR-TMH181-HTW all main modes are available and work perfectly.
Check the features of the new modes with the users of this particular model in the appropriate topic.

Guys, you still look at Avito, there are many different interesting options, primarily for the price. Very often they offer new multicooker at a good price with a large discount.
Perhaps this will help buy a more expensive multicooker for a lower price. The same Redmond 4502 (but only the lineup of the second half of 2012) or Redmond M-70.
On Avito the prices are reasonable in contrast to the shops.

We decided that it makes no sense for us to buy a pressure cooker now, it is better to use an ordinary multicooker. And it is better for 4-5 liters to use it for cooking for a week.
In addition, I saw this article today (and a dozen similar ones, with the difference that this is the most informative): (I hope the moderators will not consider it an advertisement, the link is not active). It seems that there is not much difference between Chinese ceramics and Chinese Teflon. And we will not buy an expensive cartoon yet.
Therefore, now I am considering mainly these two models: Polaris PMC 0517AD and Panasonic SR-TMJ181. On the first side there is a ceramic coating (although it is unclear whether this is an advantage), a sufficient number of recipes, 3D heating: perhaps you can replace the microwave with a multicooker. On the second side - the manufacturer - not China (if you believe the manufacturer's website), a metal case, a better-known company, less weight (although this does not matter for us). Confused by the lack of a delayed start in the Polaris PMC 0517AD in the porridge cooking mode, but it seems that this drawback can be circumvented using a multi-cook. In addition, there are many reviews like this: "I can not boast that I put it and left, I always control the process and decide whether to add enough time or not? That's because the modes are somehow crooked, soup for one cooking does not work, you have to add and so on with almost everything. " Once again, I ask for advice from experienced multicookers.

What can I say, Polaris will certainly have a more interesting design, a time-tested Panasik. At one time I had a Panasonic and almost had Polaris, they gave my husband at work on February 23, opened the box, turned it over and put it back safely. The saucepan, in my opinion, "g ..... o", well, I really did not like it. I sold it without even trying to cook in it. If I choose Polaris or Panas, I would take Panas. The menu is, of course, very simple, but not confusing and reliable saucepan. I have used Panas for more than 2 years, I highly recommend it, but it is desirable. so that the entire tool you interfere with is silicone. Well, I would still advise you Ourson 4002 for 4 liters, I adore it and the saucepan is gorgeous, plows every day since December. I forgot to write that you can buy it for about 4500r.

The saucepan, in my opinion, "g ..... o", well, I really did not like it.

If it's not a secret, what exactly did you dislike? Confused menu and appearance? Or something else?

Well, I would still advise you Ourson 4002 for 4 liters, I adore it and the saucepan is gorgeous, plows every day since December. I forgot to write that you can buy it for about 4500r.

You can find it for 4000. We don't want a pressure cooker for the first time, besides, they often write about this model that the porridge in it "runs away". Starting with Yandex Market ("You cannot cook porridge with milk. Milk foam is sprayed around the multicooker and climbs into all the mechanisms and out through the valve, the condensate cartridge overflows and the milk liquid flows on the table, respectively, and it is much more difficult and unrealistic to wash the multicooker, the foam clogs the entire mechanism and also have to wash the kitchen "), ending with this forum:" The lid was not very clean "(in the barley porridge recipe). Since we are going to cook mostly porridge, problems with this are extremely undesirable. One of my friends has Polaris, it seems they haven't complained yet. Yes and here I have not seen any negative reviews on the forum.They write that nothing can be cooked according to the recipes in the book, but this seems to be a common problem for all multicooker, here it is aggravated by the popularity of the model. Some also write about an unrecoverable odor, but this problem seems to be common from time to time to all manufacturers. Let's take Panasonic. As I understand it, you can cook in SR-TMJ181-BTW according to recipes from SR-TMH181-HTW?

[AntX]

AntX, guys, then take Panas - you won't lose. And the fact that it has fewer programs than others (the same Polaris). In fact, you won't need all of them. Here, mark my word, wake up to use the Steam, Like. porridge, Stew, Pilaf / Buckwheat. The rest you will not need in FIG.

As I understand it, you can cook in SR-TMJ181-BTW according to recipes from SR-TMH181-HTW?

You can, they are the same. As you get into the taste, it will not matter which multi recipe in general.

I have been using Panasik for more than five years and I am very satisfied! The bowl is still fine, but of course you need a silicone spoon. Sensory programs are very convenient, nothing ever burns. In general, I also advise

I have Panasonic SR-TMJ181-BTW, very happy. I like the Express program, it works to boil off the liquid, you can cook porridge more quickly for a side dish, fry potatoes in 30 minutes. Stronger than Bake mode.

I'll take a Panasonic. Their bread maker has proven itself excellently.
But I couldn't find model 181 for reasonable money, I only found
Panasonic SR-TMH18
How does it differ besides the case from 181? Is it worth taking or looking for? 181, I can buy it but it is 2 tons more expensive. R. about ... is it worth it?

[3draven]

"The lid was not very clean" (in the barley porridge recipe). Since we are going to cook mostly porridge, problems with this are extremely undesirable.

Even in Panasonic it can escape (there are such harmful cereals). To prevent this, put cereals (flakes) with water on Heating for 1-2 hours, so that the cereal grains swell and absorb some of the liquid, then there will be nothing to escape. I cook barley and oatmeal, the lid is clean

3draven, look here for the answer: What is the difference between Panasonic SR-TMH181 and SR-TMH18? and Panasonic SR-TMJ181HTW - reviews and impressions It seems that only extra show-off for our hard-earned money.

But it was not possible to find model 181 for reasonable money, I found only
Panasonic SR-TMH18

If you live in Russia
multicooker Panasonic SR TMH181НTW - Yulmart 4 440 rubles
multicooker Panasonic SR-TMJ181 BTW - Eldorado 4 499 rubles

The price is almost the same

To prevent this, put cereals (flakes) with water on Heating for 1-2 hours, so that the cereal grains swell and absorb some of the liquid, then there will be nothing to escape. I cook barley and oatmeal, the lid is clean

And my relative suggested an easier way to me. so that the milk does not run away in the cartoon - grease the edges of the bowl with butter I do just that, I just run my finger in the oil along the side of the bowl and everything is always in order. True, I do this only for insurance, so to speak, since I have never run away in any cartoon, I always cook in pure milk without water and in the store, and now - in the summer - on cow

Therefore, now I am considering mainly these two models: Polaris PMC 0517AD and Panasonic SR-TMJ181. On the first side there is a ceramic coating (although it is unclear whether this is an advantage), a sufficient number of recipes, 3D heating: perhaps you can replace the microwave with a multicooker. On the second side - the manufacturer - not China (if you believe the manufacturer's website), a metal case, a better-known company, less weight (although this does not matter for us). Confused by the lack of a delayed start in Polaris PMC 0517AD in the porridge cooking mode,

And if you look at Polaris, then if the ceramic bowl does not play a role, that is, the PMC 0512AD model is generally for 2,380 rubles. It has a delayed start and the characteristics are almost one-to-one like the PMC 0517AD model

[PMC 0512AD]

And if you look at Polaris, then if the ceramic bowl does not play a role, then there is a model PMC 0512AD in general for 2 380 rubles.

This is the model I would not recommend. Maybe in a year and a half that has changed and their bowls have become better now. But mine hasn't been taken out of the closet for over a year. And I don't cook in it myself. And to give / sell - to make a pod for a person. I don't want to make an enemy for life.

[quality]

If it's not a secret, what exactly did you dislike? Confused menu and appearance? Or something else?

The pan has one very important definition - its quality... Here is the quality of the pan in Panas - it's just the quality of Panas ... BUT ... what's in Panas, what's in polaris, what's in any other cartoon you anyway have to use only silicone spatulas / ladles ...
In order not to explain to you how the quality of pots differs, you can come to any home appliances store and see "live" at a pan from Panas and any other pan from MV, the price of which is 2-3 thousand rubles ...
it's just very difficult to describe this comparison to you, especially if you did not have CF before ...
look here I compared bowls for Panas (original and non-original), but still this "description" will give you little until you see the saucepans live ...

I bought 181 models, which have a stainless steel case. It cost 5990 in a Panasonic brand store in Omsk.
I thought that there are more than 181 gray programs in it and at 18. It does not fit our bread maker by design
from Panasonic, but there are more programs. The difference in price between the two 181 and 18 was only 500 rubles, so he took the most
dear. A gift all the same, although I would have taken the design not metal and not black if other models would have
the same number of programs. In general, I will give it when the DR comes. Thanks for the advice.

Girls, dear! Please help me with choosing a multicooker ... I've been reading the forum for the third day, and I'm getting more and more confused!
We need a cartoon for a family of 4 people. For now, I plan that we will most often cook crumbly cereals, pilaf, soups and bake. We don't eat milk porridge, but maybe we just don't know how to cook them))) I hope the cartoon can fix this. Therefore, the programs have the following requirements:
The program for cooking rice / buckwheat, cereals determined the time itself, that is, it worked until the liquid evaporated (it seems this is called the word "sensory") Therefore, (if I understood correctly) - polaris, scarlets, Maxwells, etc. fit.
Soups so as not to "run away" and be tasty) Frying, preferably immediately in the same saucepan, could be done.
We will use the baking mode constantly - casseroles / charlottes / cakes, so you need the multicooker to bake well and you can set the time and delay start yourself (Panasonic disappears here)
Milk porridge from the morning would also be desirable. (Of course, in order to lay everything in the evening and not scrub the escaped milk all over the kitchen in the morning)
And the yogurt regimen would be very useful (or manual). The ability to mark the heating before the start of cooking is already the ultimate dream.
In general, you need a cartoon to throw in it and forget))) Less "dancing with tambourines", I can dance at the stove (and even love) But there is no time on weekdays!
In all respects, Brand 502 suits me sooo much. But, despite the fact that I live in Russia, they are not sold in my region. It is possible to order, but the lack of service centers confuses (Please advise something that is as similar as possible in functions and quality !!! to it. The budget is no more than 5-6 thousand rubles.

In the 502nd there are no touch modes, only pre-switched heating. Everything you needed in the Brand 37501 model, but it is discontinued.
Switchable heating (in addition to Brand 502) is available only for Redmond M-70, M-90, M-150. But the price does not fit into your budget and there are no touch modes there either.
In my opinion, sensor programs are much more important and in demand than switched off heating.
Sensory ones are in Panasonic (why you rejected it, I did not understand), in Stadler Form and in Japanese like Toshiba and Hitachi. If you do not plan to cook milk porridge, then the Japanese can be studied more closely. And maybe Philips has something with touch modes, unfortunately, I don't remember.

If it's not a secret, what exactly did you dislike? Confused menu and appearance? Or something else?
You can find it for 4000. We don't want a pressure cooker for the first time, in addition, quite often they write about this model that the porridge in it "runs away". Starting with Yandex Market ("You can't cook porridge with milk.Milk foam is sprayed around the multicooker and climbs into all mechanisms and out through the valve, the condensate cartridge overflows and the milk liquid flows across the table, respectively, and it is much more difficult and unrealistic to wash the multicooker, the foam clogs the entire mechanism and you also have to wash the kitchen "), ending with this forum: "The lid was not very clean" (in the recipe for pearl barley porridge). Since we are going to cook mostly porridge, problems with this are extremely undesirable. One of my friends has Polaris, it seems they have not yet complained. here I have not seen any negative reviews on the forum. They write that nothing can be cooked according to the recipes in the book, but this seems to be a common problem for all multicooker, here it is aggravated by the popularity of the model. Some also write about an unrecoverable odor, but this problem seems to be common from time to time to all manufacturers. Let's take Panasonic. As I understand it, you can cook in SR-TMJ181-BTW according to recipes from SR-TMH181-HTW?

I didn't like the quality of the saucepan, I became picky. And I like the menu simpler, but this is not the main thing, the main thing is the quality of the inner saucepan. I cook milk porridge exclusively in milk, without diluting it with water. NEVER RUNNED! In general, nothing has ever escaped in Ourson, I cook the soup, almost to the top, a stupid manner, and then there never were any problems. Mom took the same pressure cooker, she already has Panasik. Although she is 65 years old, she loves pressure cookers. Well, of course you choose.

In the 502nd there are no touch modes, only pre-switched heating. Everything you needed in the Brand 37501 model, but it is discontinued.
Switchable heating (in addition to Brand 502) is available only for Redmond M-70, M-90, M-150. But the price does not fit into your budget and there are no touch modes there either.
In my opinion, sensory programs are much more important and in demand than switched off heating.
Sensory ones are in Panasonic (why you rejected it, I did not understand), in Stadler Form and in Japanese like Toshiba and Hitachi. If you do not plan to cook milk porridge, then the Japanese can be studied more closely. And maybe Philips has something with touch modes, unfortunately, I don't remember.

Reading the instructions for 502, I realized that the cereal is prepared there before boiling. Although I may have misunderstood.
And the Redmond 70, of course, is good, but I don't want to take it for an artificially wound price
Panasonic dismissed it for the lack of the ability to manually set the time for baking and the delay not on all programs, and of yogurt. But if I'm wrong, please correct. Since my head is already spinning)) And I want to find my own cartoon.
Stadler also saw Toshiba here. Toshiba has an excellent saucepan, it seemed to me. went to read more about them) Thank you.

[Ma_LiNka]

Ma_LiNka, in 502 there are no touch programs at all, you have to set time everywhere. In Panas, you can set the time for baking, but the delay (you noticed correctly) only on porridge and pilaf. If you want a delay even for the program Steaming, sensory "porridge", Yoghurt - take 37501, despite the fact that it has been discontinued. Here, for example, order, as long as there are leftovers from the last batch:
🔗
And immediately, in addition to the second bowl to it, this will not increase the cost of delivery by much Plus, dig into the accessories, you may want to order something else (someone buys a second steamer and a plate in the lid exclusively for fish). Or choose another store, closer to you, on Yandex-Market

37501 now with two steamers, no need to buy extra.

[main]

Panasonic dismissed it for the lack of the ability to manually set the time for baking and the delay not on all programs, and of yogurt. But if I'm wrong, please correct.

Here I didn’t understand you at all ... How do you then imagine setting time for baking ??? Or should everything be baked exclusively for 40 or 50 or 60 minutes? ... In fact, in Panas, the time is set from ... to ... (i.e. 20 and 65 minutes, respectively)

The postponement is set for the programs Buckwheat, Kasha and Plov ...
time is not set only on sensory programs - there the MV itself determines how much to cook ...

In general, I want to say that now I think that the presence of sensory programs in the CF is one of the main criteria for choosing MV ... I don't know if I would buy a cartoon now without this function ?!

about yogurt - having a CF with the "Yogurt" program - I don't use it, because it is not suitable for making yogurt (This is in scarlet) ...
If I'm not mistaken, then someone prepares yoghurt in Panas on the "heating" mode ... Here you need to check with those who prepare it ...

someone prepares yoghurt in Panas on the "heating" mode ... Here you need to check with those who prepare it ...

I cooked, it worked well, but not always as thick as in Brand. But according to its technology, milk in cans and water was heated once to 40 °, and then just turned off the cartoon and kept the lid closed for 3-4 hours. If I heated the milk a couple of times during this time, most likely it would have turned out better. At the end, the milk cooled down to 35-32 degrees, which is not enough for yogurt. For me, the big minus of this kind of cooking is that you can't put it on a postponement for the morning and you need to keep track of the time, set the alarm, take out the cans on time so that they don't stand still ...

MaliNka, if Brand 37501 is still on sale, then take it, you will not regret it. It meets absolutely all your requirements, except for the pre-switched off heating. But I wrote about this above, and I myself have never used it, although I had a CF with this function.
The 37501 has 2 sensor modes, excellent frying, manual mode with a temperature setting from 40 to 180C (!), Excellent Baking, excellent Milk porridge, Yogurt mode. There is everything and even more)))
And it is more convenient to immediately take an additional bowl so as not to slow down the cooking process and sleep more peacefully in case you ruin the bowl. It was at our forum when the girl dropped the cup, and the cup was deformed. So anything can happen, it's better to be ready)))

Hello!
Also in the agonizing choice of the first multicooker.
The requirements are, in principle, simple: as it was already said here, "In general, we need a cartoon to throw it into it and forget)))"
Milk porridge is needed, but occasionally. Groats: buckwheat, rice, pilaf. The main thing is probably all sorts of vegetable and meat stews. Well soups sometimes.
Yoghurts, bread, deep fat are not needed for sure. Fry only if for a soup fry.
And the main thing is that the cartoon "forgives" my mistakes as much as possible.
The goal for me is more delicious, rich cereals, cereals, stews; well and cut my time spent cooking.
The delay seems to be not very necessary. In the morning I eat toast - a slow cooker is not needed; from morning to evening to lay - neither time nor energy. And from the evening to the next day, you can cook without any delay.
Turning off the heating is also not essential at all.

Based on the above, as I understand it, multi with touch modes are more suitable for me. In general, multicooker without a touch mode is not very clear to me - what is the advantage over a regular pan then?

What is the best choice?
Verified Panas. There are a lot of recipes for him, a famous brand. But the design is not so hot and the programs are not enough.
Stadler Form. It looks cool, there are more programs like. But an unknown company, the price tag is high, except for technosila is not sold anywhere. Service is also questionable.
There are also hitachi and toshiba, but there are few reviews on them at all.
Brand 37501 is not for sale with us.

Or am I wasting my time on sensory programs? Maybe take some polaris 0517?

The budget, in principle, is not limited within reasonable limits, but I do not want to overpay too much, because I am not yet completely sure that the multicooker will take root with us.

zhariks, I have Stadler Form for the second year. I am very pleased with this slow cooker, it is made with high quality, the bowl is very good. All the dishes are great.

Irman, and what are its real advantages over Panas, except for design? All the same, it costs almost twice as much ...

I don't have Panasonic, so I can't say anything about him, but ask about Stadler, I'll answer.

Or am I wasted on sensory programs? Maybe take some polaris 0517?

The budget, in principle, is not limited within reasonable limits, but I do not want to overpay too much, because I am not yet completely sure that the multicooker will take root with us.

Why do you need sensory programs? They are not in my cartoon, and somehow I do not feel the need for them at all. Choose a cartoon based on the dishes you will cook more often. It helped me.

And the cartoon will take root, it is a very good helper with the right approach to it. When too much is expected of her, then very often they are disappointed.

Well, as I understand it, it's easier with them. They themselves determine the cooking time depending on the volume, products, etc. I just dropped everything, pressed the button and forgot. And without a sensor, how? Measure everything down to the gram so that it matches the recipe? So, in my opinion, it's easier to cook in an ordinary saucepan ...

Well, as I understand it, it's easier with them. They themselves determine the cooking time depending on the volume, products, etc. I just dropped everything, pressed the button and forgot. And without a sensor, how? Measure everything down to the gram so that it matches the recipe? So, in my opinion, it's easier to cook in an ordinary saucepan ...

You got it right ...
And without a sensor, you need to learn to choose the ratio of the amount of cereal / amount of water / set time ...

[main]

Here I didn’t understand you at all ... How do you then imagine setting time for baking ??? Or should everything be baked exclusively for 40 or 50 or 60 minutes? ... In fact, in Panas, the time is set from ... to ... (i.e. 20 and 65 minutes, respectively)

In general, I want to say that now I think that the presence of sensory programs in the CF is one of the main criteria for choosing MV ... I don't know if I would buy a cartoon now without this function ?!

Yes, this and I put it wrong)) I mean that 65 minutes is not enough for baking. A friend has a little Panasonic, she always prepares a biscuit 65 + 20. And I want to put at once for at least 100 minutes, just not to jump and calculate.

Please tell us more about the pros / cons of touch programs. If, I understand correctly, you have multi with them, and without such programs

[Zhariks]

Of course, it's a matter of taste, but I wouldn't buy it without touch programs. I have one multicooker (old Brand 37300) so it can only change the time on two programs and everything else is "sensory". I'm not complaining, I especially like to make baked goods in it - always baked, not raw and not burnt.
Zhariks, just like you do not understand the difference between a saucepan with a timer and multicooker without touch programs. If you can set the temperature - that's different, it's useful. I don’t know how to calculate the time for cooking. One chicken is juicy, the other is not very ... once I put it "by grams", the second time I poured so much ... Do not look under the lid every time? If I take a new recipe, then I cook using one of two programs: Buckwheat or Stewing, always at "5"! I can say for my Panas: the character is docile, forgives mistakes when cooking cereals (at least 2 hours it will puff, but the water will evaporate), squeaks loudly that he has run out of water in the Steamer mode, fries delicately, you can leave it on Baking for 20 minutes onions with carrots - they will not burn, casseroles and biscuits in it are excellent. For two years Panas spoiled only one dish, and even then by my oversight - I completely forgot the semolina on the heating - there was a red crust below.

About sensory programs: my husband doesn't like gravy, he has to put the dish on "Buckwheat". I prefer more moist food - I choose "Stew". I cook scrambled eggs on a sensory program - about 4 minutes, then the cartoon beeps about readiness and nothing burns.

While I was writing, it turns out that they already answered) But, nevertheless, I will ask ... (sorry that twice, I’m just so sure to understand)
That is, if I want to cook porridge, not as usual for 4 servings, but for 3 or 5 servings, then without sensor programs, I will have to think and figure out how much time to set? And with them, a clever saucepan will do it for me?

And at the expense of the 37501 brand .. we, unfortunately, do not sell them, and there is no service, respectively. And what happens, where am I with her (((

[quality]

The pan has one very important definition - its quality... Here is the quality of the pan in Panas - it's just the quality of Panas ... BUT ... what's in Panas, what's in polaris, what's in any other cartoon you anyway have to use only silicone spatulas / ladles ...
In order not to explain to you how the quality of pots differs, you can come to any home appliances store and see "live" at a pan from Panas and any other pan from MV, the price of which is 2-3 thousand rubles ...
it's just very difficult to describe this comparison to you, especially if you didn't have CF before ...
look here I compared bowls for Panas (original and non-original), but still this "description" will give you little until you see the saucepans live ...

It's clear about silicone paddles. I am now reading reviews on Panasonic (both 18 and 181), the same problem is often encountered: the Teflon coating of the standard bowl is scratched, even if silicone spatulas are used. The bones in the meat seem to be the culprit. Now even children know that it is better to throw away dishes with a scratched Teflon coating right away (but many neglect this in vain), so the drawback is very significant - you need to immediately buy a spare bowl (and throw the original one after a month of work), respectively, part of the money is thrown away. I would not like to get such problems immediately after purchase, especially since there are plenty to choose from. I looked at Philips models (3039 and 3077) - it seems that there is no such problem, but there are not enough ready-made recipes. Less pronounced (judging by the reviews) is similar in Redmond (M60 and M4502). Brand 502 is also generally well written. Or better still Panasonic immediately with a new bowl (but then it will be difficult to keep within the budget, and you still need to find where to buy a high-quality bowl). In a word, again I am confused.

Now I have Panas ONLY for baking biscuits, since he bakes them, no one else does)))
The shape of the bowl is very convenient, even badly beaten eggs or my jambs with dough is forgiving. 65 minutes are always enough for me
The lack of a brand service should not scare you, there is mail and transport companies that can deliver a broken MB to Brand, if it is a marriage, then Brand pays for everything. This has already happened on the forum. You can buy it on the manufacturer's website, see the link above.
The advantage of touch modes is that you do not need to guess how long the dish should be prepared, and the result is always good. In the case of cereals, you only need to measure the cereal-liquid with special measuring glasses that come with the kit.

I will add about the preliminary shutdown of heating, or rather, about its absence in 37501. When I don't need the finished dish to be heated, I put it on a delay until about the time I’m at home, so that I can turn off the heating myself.

It's clear about silicone paddles. I am now reading reviews on Panasonic (both 18 and 181), the same problem is often encountered: the Teflon coating of the standard bowl is scratched, even if silicone spatulas are used. The bones in the meat seem to be the culprit. Now even children know that it is better to throw away dishes with a scratched Teflon coating right away (but many neglect this in vain), so the drawback is very significant - you need to immediately buy a spare bowl (and throw the original one after a month of work), respectively, part of the money is wasted. I would not like to get such problems immediately after purchase, especially since there are plenty to choose from. I looked at Philips models (3039 and 3077) - it seems that there is no such problem, but there are not enough ready-made recipes. Less pronounced (judging by the reviews) is similar in Redmond (M60 and M4502). Brand 502 is also generally well written. Or better still Panasonic immediately with a new bowl (but then it will be difficult to keep within the budget, and you still need to find where to buy a high-quality bowl). In a word, again I am confused.

Well, in vain are you talking about Panason's cup. Light superficial scratches are not a problem.This is not a violation of the integrity of the coating and does not pose a danger. In general, the saucepan is very solid and of high quality. Serves for several years.

Sorry, I'm out of topic. My husband urgently needs an answer to give him how much to cook soup from 1 leg in panasik on "stewing". I haven't cooked anything there for so long that I just forgot. Slow quenching is also there. Maybe someone will remind the thread, pzhalsta.

Well, you shouldn't be talking about Panason's cup. Light superficial scratches are not a problem. This is not a violation of the integrity of the coating and does not pose a danger. In general, the saucepan is very solid and of high quality. Serves for several years.

As a result, my Panasok has been serving for 8-9 years ... at first he lived with me, and now with my mother, but in the country. The chalice, of course, has some rest, but not critical.