lisa567
Quote: Ma_LiNka

While I was writing, it turns out that they already answered) But, nevertheless, I will ask ... (sorry that twice, this is for me to understand for sure)
That is, if I want to cook porridge, not as usual for 4 servings, but for 3 or 5, then without sensory programs, I will have to think and figure out how much time to set? And with them, a clever saucepan will do it for me?

And at the expense of the 37501 brand .. we, unfortunately, do not sell them, and there is no service, respectively. And if something happened, where am I with her (((

I have a cartoon polaris floris. The porridge and rice program is not sensory. But I cook any porridge in any proportion, I always set the time almost the same for at least 2 servings, at least 4, depending on the cereal of course. Corn with a delay and 3 mst. and 5 mst. I put milk for 1 hour. She cooked everything she could, not one ran away and did not burn. I never calculated the time. And on baking, the time is adjustable to 3.5 hours.
yara
Quote: albina1966

Ehh! And in response, silence ...
Everyone is already spoiled. And how did you cook on the stove? So here, let him try, it will be ready - turn it off. We quickly get used to good things, yes, Albinka?
albina1966
Quote: yara

Everyone is already spoiled. And how did you cook on the stove? So here, let him try, it will be ready - turn it off. We quickly get used to good things, yes, Albinka?
Yar! That nope, he's on a long business trip and I gave him panasika, he ate hot stuff. And he wants to throw everything in the cartoon in the morning and go to work, but I don't know how long to put the extinguishing regime on. Well, I did not wait for an answer here and said to put it for 2 hours.
Anya
Quote: albina1966

Yar! That nope, he's on a long business trip and I gave him panasika, he ate hot stuff. And he wants to throw everything in the cartoon in the morning and go to work, but I don't know how long to put the extinguishing regime on. Well, I did not wait for an answer here and said to put it on for 2 hours.
Yes 1 hour should be enough, I think so. In my CFs, just 1 hour is enough.
rusja
Anh, so the DEKHs have one and a half times more power than Panas, that's why it's faster
I think Albina told her husband correctly
AntX
Quote: Song *

Well, you shouldn't be talking about the Panason's cup. Light superficial scratches are not a problem. This is not a violation of the integrity of the coating and does not pose a danger. In general, the saucepan is very solid and of high quality. Serves for several years.

Of course, I am not an expert in materials science, but here is what V. Petrosyan, UN expert on chemical safety, said:
At the slightest scratch, polytetrafluoroethylene is ingested. In addition, when heated, this substance begins to melt and decompose at temperatures slightly above 250 degrees.
Someone will say that this is superfluous, but this is not the only example, so using the bowls (as some do) until they burn out to the holes is a direct way to the hospital.
Song
Quote: AntX

I am certainly not an expert
AntX, so much has been said and discussed about this that I don't want to repeat myself. And you read in one place and immediately shout "guard" ... Do not think that you are here discovering America.
AntX
Quote: Song *

AntX, so much has been said and discussed about this that I don't want to repeat myself. And you read in one place and immediately shout "guard" ... Do not think that you are here discovering America.

Not in one place, of course, this is just one example. And I don't open America, but the fact that perfluorooctanoic acid, according to studies, was found in the blood of 95% of Americans, already makes you wonder. Just ask, you don’t need to say that "Living is harmful."I just want to find a bowl with a non-stick coating that will not scratch or lose its properties after a month of service, provided that only silicone spatulas are used.
finanna
Quote: AntX

In a word, again I am confused.

The more you read and choose, the more likely it is to buy in the end not what you expect exactly.You must take immediately and quickly, what you liked the most - then you will not be mistaken (checked)
My advice remains the same - Redmond RMC M10 And in terms of volume, the very thing, and the presence of modes, etc. And I know where such a new one is also worth a ridiculous price. If you don’t like it, it will not be a pity to give it to your neighbors in the hostel
Arnica
Quote: finanna

The more you read and choose, the more likely it is to buy in the end not what you expect exactly.You must take immediately and quickly, what you liked the most - then you will not be mistaken (checked)
Exactly. Overkill always gives a shortage.
AntX
Quote: finanna

The more you read and choose, the more likely it is to buy in the end not what you expect exactly.You must take immediately and quickly, what you liked the most - then you will not be mistaken (checked)
My advice remains the same - Redmond RMC M10 And in terms of volume, the very thing, and the presence of modes, etc. And I know where such a new one is also worth a ridiculous price
I don’t want to praise myself, but I’ve retired ... right now, I’ll count ... 6 families, and for each family a cartoon was selected from different companies and different prices from 1,440 rubles to 7,000 rubles - everyone uses it and says thank you. praise, but still praised
Thank you, if she were 4 liters, I would probably take it right away. 3 may still not be enough someday, although we'll think about it. In addition, there are not enough recipes for this cartoon, I hardly see them at all on this forum. Still, I would like to cook for the first time according to the principle: I threw everything that was necessary - I opened the lid after cooking. And with the accompanying recipe book, this is unlikely to work.
As for how much I read - over the past 3 years, whatever technique I chose - I could not spend less than two weeks on the choice. And I thought about some purchases for several months. But in the end (pah-pah) I was not disappointed in anything, I always got exactly what I was counting on. There was just a contradiction here: on the one hand, I want to buy a multifunctional, proven and not harmful to health equipment, on the other hand, the budget is very limited, since I am buying not for my own home, but for a hostel. Myself, of course, I would choose from a completely different price category. I am glad that different people here advise different options, since it is almost impossible to consider all the available variety of models by yourself, and using the advice of people who know firsthand about multicooker, you can finally choose the right one.
Ikra
Quote: Ksyushk @ -Plushk @

This is the model I would not recommend. Maybe in a year and a half that has changed and their bowls have become better now. But mine hasn't been taken out of the closet for over a year. And I don't cook in it myself. And to give / sell - to make a pod for a person. I don't want to make an enemy for life.

Ksenia, senior Redmond with ceramics tested with a girlfriend. On the second day, we decided to make a charlotte with her (on the first - we cooked soup). So I broke it off for half an hour in order to somehow save the integrity of the cake. In my Panasik everything pops up in a minute.
After all, probably, the ceramics have not yet reached the "commodity" level.
finanna
Quote: AntX

Thank you, if she were 4 liters, I would probably take it right away. 3 may still not be enough someday, although we'll think about it. In addition, there are not enough recipes for this cartoon, I hardly see them at all on this forum. Still, I would like to cook for the first time according to the principle: I threw everything that was needed - I opened the lid after cooking. And with the accompanying recipe book, this is unlikely to work.

If you have never cooked anything yourself, it will be difficult with a recipe book and without a book, and with recipes from the Internet and without them. And if you have even a little experience in cooking, for example, soups, then there will be no problems, the experience will appear in just a week. And there are enough recipes for any Redmond, the volume of the bowl does not matter.
The beauty of multicooker is that it is not necessary to cook one soup for a week and then eat it every day, better less, but more varied. Cooking with any cartoon is easier and takes less time, so the menu will be more interesting Any recipe adapts to any saucepan
Vei
I will answer again to students
For you, of course, I am not an authority, although I have cultivated SOOO many people in life and in different forums, there have been no complaints)))
Reading your doubts about perfluoroactanoic acid and Panasonic in particular is simply ridiculous. Firstly, we have been living and preparing for several years, and secondly, Panasonic has also been in operation for more than one year, and their bowls have proven themselves from the good side, and, most importantly, in MV the temperatures never reach those critical thresholds when all the dregs of this PFTA of the acid itself can manifest itself, moreover, its harm manifested itself in the process of manufacturing the Teflon coating, and not in operation as such. And now almost all manufacturers except DuPont have abandoned its use in non-stick coatings.

Now about the damage to the bowl. Bones can scratch any bowl of any manufacturer, but usually only lamb bones scratch the coating so seriously, the rest scratch not critically. Do you often cook lamb with bones? On the contrary, the Panasov coating is very stable, but it is always better to use silicone accessories, and not plastic ones, especially the standard ones from the kit, in any case.
finanna
Quote: Vei


I have cultivated a LOT of people both in life and on different forums, there have been no complaints)))

I urgently cross out my modest merits
Vei
Quote: finanna

I urgently cross out my modest merits
Anh, that's not what I said at all! I apologize for the incorrectness
I only want more people to feel how good it is to be cultivated, how much easier life such a device makes!
Arnica
Quote: Vei

I only want more people to feel how good it is to be cultivated, how much easier life such a device makes!
And our employee's daughter got married recently. We decided to humbly congratulate the newlyweds. There were no options for a gift and I offered to buy MV, everyone agreed. Yesterday I ordered Scarlett-410, today they have already brought it.
We decided to test it at work, and at the same time show everyone what a wonderful saucepan. I bought rice, milk and made milk porridge. Everyone was delighted and two of the three non-multivariates wanted a similar saucepan. And I was so glad that the presentation worked! But when I told them, it somehow did not work.
Vei
Ol, agree, what is such a joyful feeling of satisfaction?))))
Arnica
Quote: Vei

Ol, agree, what is such a joyful feeling of satisfaction?))))
! Conversely, you get upset when a person does not want to understand his happiness.
Rita
Quote: AntX

Of course, I am not an expert in materials science, but here is what V. Petrosyan, UN expert on chemical safety, said:
At the slightest scratch, polytetrafluoroethylene is ingested. In addition, this substance, when heated, begins to melt and decompose at a temperature slightly above 250 degrees.
Someone will say that this is superfluous, but this is not the only example, so using the bowls (as some do) until they burn out to the holes is a direct way to the hospital.
But there is Steba with a stainless steel bowl.
Olega_mama
Quote: AntX

Not in one place, of course, this is just one example. And I don't open America, but the fact that perfluorooctanoic acid, according to studies, was found in the blood of 95% of Americans, already makes you wonder. Only please, you do not need to say that "Living is harmful". I just want to find a bowl with a non-stick coating that will not scratch or lose its properties after a month of service, provided that only silicone spatulas are used.
somehow you are very boring for a student)))))
Think yourself - WHO and HOW will study blood in order to find perfluorooctane acid in 95% (!!!!)? British scientists? ))))

zhariks
Quote: finanna

The beauty of multicooker is that it is not necessary to cook one soup for a week and then eat it every day, better less, but more varied. Cooking with any cartoon is easier and takes less time, so the menu will be more interesting

And why? The most time consuming part of the soup is to peel and chop everything.And using a combine is easier to do a lot at once. And then, that in a saucepan, that in a cartoon - I threw it and cooks by itself.
* Anyuta *
Quote: AntX

Now I read reviews on Panasonic (both 18 and 181), the same problem often occurs: the Teflon coating of the standard bowl is scratched, even if silicone spatulas are used. Apparently the bones in the meat are the culprits ....

Watched Philips models (3039 and 3077) - there seems to be no such problem, but there are not enough ready-made recipes... Less pronounced (judging by the reviews) is similar in Redmond (M60 and M4502). Brand 502 is also generally well written. Or is it better, all the same, Panasonic immediately with a new bowl (but then it will be difficult to meet the budget, and you still need to find where to buy a quality bowl). In a word, again I am confused.
Quote: Vei


Now about the damage to the bowl. Bones can scratch any bowl of any manufacturer, but usually only lamb bones scratch the coating so seriously, the rest scratch is not critical.

I wanted to answer the same thing .... .. absolutely any bones can scratch absolutely any cup.... There is still a lot depends on who and how handles objects and any things ...
And most of the information about the fact that Panas's bowls are scratched is logical .... quite logical !!!! You wonder about what time is it there are other MB models on the market and what time is it Panas already exists ... Here is the answer to your question ...

Arnica
Quote: Olega_mama

somehow you are very boring for a student)))))
Think for yourself - WHO and HOW will study the blood in order to find perfluorooctane acid in 95% (!!!!)? British scientists? ))))
Or maybe they are future doctors ...
IRR
Quote: Rita

But there is Steba with a stainless steel bowl.

and not only her. Many of us have such bowls, by selecting
Song
Now "students" will start discussing the quality of stainless steel bowls alloys ....., the appearance of black dots in them ... a change in the color of the metal ... and off we go ...
IRR
Quote: Song *

Now the "students" will start discussing the quality of stainless steel bowls alloys ....., the appearance of black dots in them ... and off we go ...


let them take a chance



no, well, in fact, 2 - then the cups are better than one, moreover, the second stainless steel

Why didn't you stuff the students into gorgeous themewhere there are excellent experts, let them disassemble the holivar for Teflon, everything has long been said and negotiated
Ikra
Quote: zhariks

And why? The most time consuming part of the soup is to peel and chop everything. And using a combine is easier to do a lot at once. And then, that in a saucepan, that in a cartoon - I threw it and cooks by itself.
Wrong In a saucepan you need to: remove the foam, reduce the fire, watch so that it does not boil away, and so that the neighbors in the hostel do not take a sample. You will not get away from the soup until it is cooked.
In the cartoon, he threw everything, put it on his windowsill, away from prying eyes, and went to his library to write notes. Then I met my friends ... Then at the cinema ... Then ... Bah! Yes, my soup is being cooked !!!! I ran to the hostel covered in soap, and there, as if nothing had happened, there was a cartoon, it kept heating: eat, dear, hot! Nothing boiled away, did not run away, did not burn. It just got better.
In!
Vasilica
Ikra, ppcs!

Quote: zhariks

And why? The most time consuming part of the soup is to peel and chop everything. And using a combine is easier to do a lot at once.

Using a combine, you can chop and chop as much as possible, put them in bags and freeze in the freezer, and that's all - a minimum of body movements.
* Anyuta *
Quote: Vasilica

Ikra, ppcs!

Using the combine, you can chop and chop as much as possible, put them in bags and freeze in the freezer and that's it -
Not. Well, of course, this is quite logical for boys-students and "business travelers" (I write with great sarcasm) .... ... business travelers, for example, carry with them both CF and freezers and combines ... but what? Is it hard? ... and students in general are nonsense - in the dormitory they live from the "good life" ... and they will buy their own freezer, but the harvester - all the more so - why are the guys there - the boys make a soup-vegetable preparation. ....

But seriously ... I already wrote this above .. guys are boys and their food will be porridge, side dishes + sausages / wieners and semi-finished meat products and the most primitive soups like canned fish ... And students simply have no time to "twist the cauldrons" and even more to bother with all sorts of delights ... and especially boys ...

Maybe everyone has been students for a long time and have forgotten "how it is" ...but in my memory student life is have time to learn (precisely to study) in the intervals between "earn some money and take a walk" .... As one teacher used to say: from session to session students live fun...

Vasilica
Anyuta, if anything, then I answered this post

Quote: zhariks

And why? The most time consuming part of the soup is to peel and chop everything. And using a combine is easier to do a lot at once. And then, that in a saucepan, that in a cartoon - I threw it and cooks by itself.

I don't think this post was written by a student who has a harvester in his dorm.
* Anyuta *
Quote: Vasilica

Anyuta, if anything, then I answered this post

I don't think this post was written by a student who has a harvester in his dorm.

.. ashamed ... I confess ... this post should be addressed to this particular message ...

Quote: zhariks

And why? The most time consuming part of the soup is to peel and chop everything. And using a combine is easier to do a lot at once. And then, that in a saucepan, that in a cartoon - I threw it and cooks by itself.
Rick
Quote: Rita

But there is Steba with a stainless steel bowl.
And by the way, why did no one advise the guys to look at Shteba again?
AntX
Quote: IRR


let them take a chance



no, well, in fact, 2 - then the cups are better than one, moreover, the second stainless steel

Why didn't you stuff the students into gorgeous themewhere there are excellent experts, let them disassemble the holivar for Teflon, everything has long been said and negotiated

I'm not going to breed holivar here (even if I use a cast-iron frying pan), this will still lead to nothing, everyone will, as always, remain unconvinced. I'm just listening to different options. For this, in general, then, and came to the forum. Although, after the purchase, of course, I will write my impressions in the topic, and based on the results of testing the recipes, I will probably write more.

Quote: Rick

And by the way, why did no one advise the guys to look at Shteba again?

But for this I would not say thank you - and would have bypassed this cartoon with undeserved attention. And you say - boring Not all the students are clear choleric, everyone has different temperaments - someone likes to "cut from the shoulder", and someone tries to make any decision without undue haste.
Song
Quote: Rick

And by the way, why did no one advise the guys to look at Shteba again?
Quote: AntX

But for this I would not say thank you - and would have bypassed this cartoon with undeserved attention. And you say - boring Not all the students are clear choleric, everyone has different temperaments - someone likes to "cut from the shoulder", and someone tries to make any decision without undue haste.
Yes, they already offered ...
Quote: Rita

But there is Steba with a stainless steel bowl.
LiaSHa
Quote: Vasilica

Ikra, ppcs!

Using a combine, you can chop and chop as much as possible, put them in bags and freeze in the freezer, and that's all - a minimum of body movements.
Eh, while I was reading reviews about multicooker, now I wanted a combine

Girls, well, help with the choice of a multi or a pressure cooker or two in one yet, otherwise it's already a mess in my head. I am interested in a bowl of 4-5 liters, attracts of course a large number of programs, but I have already read that everything is interchangeable, but since I am still a beginner in this business, I wanted to have a function: steaming, frying, stewing, baking bread , well, if the yogurt is not scary (although there is a separate one). According to the description, I liked REDMOND M110, I was bribed by the number of programs, but also the fact that it is a pressure cooker and without pressure can be cooked, but the price. can what analog is more sparing on money? I also looked at PHILIPS HD 2173/03, but read reviews that the touch panel is not comfortable, who tried it? Or maybe what kind of Panasonic to consider? And what to watch a pressure cooker or a cartoon? I usually cook: porridge, soups, pilaf, stew, in general, nothing special.
Vei
Liana, Redmond M-110 is definitely not worth taking, Not because it is bad, but because an ordinary pressure cooker, and the price was raised 4 times. At the same time, she does not cook without pressure, or rather she cooks in the same way as any other pressure cooker.
Phillips? ... In general, it should not be bad, but also far from ideal for its price.
Better take Shteba.Here everything is really optimal and a stainless steel bowl plus the opportunity to buy a Teflon one for baking.
LiaSHa
Quote: Vei

At the same time, she does not cook without pressure, or rather she cooks in the same way as any other pressure cooker.
and I thought it was "+", a pressure cooker and a multicooker in one device
Quote: Vei

Better take Shteba. Here everything is really optimal and a stainless steel bowl plus the opportunity to buy a Teflon one for baking.
I have not seen something like this in Ukrainian online stores, but which model is better? Dex-60 is also highly praised, but the company is not familiar, how is it in terms of the quality of the material?
Vei
Dex-60 is not a pressure cooker, but a multicooker, but the legendary quality and set of programs are just wonderful! Highly recommend!
Ma_LiNka
I seem to have made up my mind))
I want Philips 3037. Can you please tell me if there are reviews and recipes for it here? Something I didn't find a topic like this
Or please respond those who already have one ... I would very much like to talk with those who dealt with it in practice
yara
Quote: Vei

See what I found:

Has anyone seen this before? Price 4490r.
Unfortunately, the image cannot be inserted (((
Something does not pull on a multicooker More likely an electric kettle with knives
Song
Quote: Vei

See what I found:
This? Written by a multicooker-blender ...
Choosing a multicooker, pressure cooker, rice cooker (2)
IRR
Choosing a multicooker, pressure cooker, rice cooker (2)

Choosing a multicooker, pressure cooker, rice cooker (2)
Tanyulya
And I like this garbage, I would have to adapt something for a chocolate maker ...
Vei
This teapot with knives has a maximum temperature of 97C - in theory, nothing should escape.
Tanyulya
Quote: Vei

This teapot with knives has a maximum temperature of 97C - in theory, nothing should escape.
So I read that the temperature is right, the knife seems to be metal, the current is something jabon for 5 tons. buy crushes, even if only a thousand 2
LiaSHa
Girls, now poiogite, if Shteba is in Ukraine?
albina1966
Quote: LiaSHa

Girls, now poiogite, if Shteba is in Ukraine?
I don't know how in Ukraine, but its price in rubles is 9999 rubles.
Vitaok
Quote: LiaSHa

Girls, now poiogite, if Shteba is in Ukraine?
Until nowhere to be seen
Tanyulya
Quote: Vei

This teapot with knives has a maximum temperature of 97C - in theory, nothing should escape.
Lizavetaaa, I ordered it. That is, girls in Moscow will buy and send it to me, for 2200

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