IRR
Quote: ukka

But read the topic about repairs and spare parts for Panasik - 22 pages (since 2007) and the problems are mostly - the saucepan was scratched or the hostess poured liquid without a saucepan ... How many multicooker boast such reliability ???

100%
there are world leaders and Panasonic among them. All these viteks and polaris still have to work and work, although they are trying, pushing, well done, of course. But Toshiba ... Panasonic, Mitsubishi is a name, years of righteous work in consumer markets. The heyday of eastern technologies, you can beat the hell out of it. IMHO especially.
Ukka
Quote: IRR

listen, in this standard milk porridge runs perfectly, but we will forgive him for that, right?
I've never run away ...
But fry me sausage in Panasika - it won't work quickly!
Recently I had an experiment - I had to quickly fry chicken. Due to natural laziness for gas. I don’t look at the stove and frying pan - like I don’t have them ... I turn on Panasik, Brandyusha 6050 and Klasha ... Panasika couldn’t turn it on quickly, I already know this quiet one ... Brandyusha, strong, is trying ... Klasha she fried her portion faster than everyone else and turned off (here's a business one, with one on-off button, and a business one that coped faster than everyone else). We waited with Brandyusha and Klasha Panasikai, all the chicken smoothly migrated to Brandyusha - the frying mode was still working - I closed the lid, turned the valve to pressure - and until the pressure was released. The chicken was delicious with a crust and juicy!
But we no longer take Panasik to such a fried festival - let him do what he can do well - porridge, stewing, and BAKERY! This is where his quiet character is used, where he is just gold.
Quote: IRR

100%
there are world leaders and Panasonic among them. All these viteks and polaris still have to work and work, although they are trying, pushing, well done, of course. But Toshiba ... Panasonic, Mitsubishi is a name, years of righteous work in consumer markets. The heyday of eastern technologies, you can beat the hell out of it. IMHO especially.
Yes exactly, "years of righteous work in consumer markets" !!!
IRRka, your IMHO, then my IMHO !!! I love you !!!
IRR
Quote: Gasha

IRRRRRRRR !!!! For almost six years of daily use - the porridge never ran out of me never!
I read that topic 100 years ago, porridge escapes, what to do?

gan, hear, and we also had a topic - poured water into the MV, but by ... forgot to put the pan itself

this is also a Panasonic gat, why didn't I come up with a red button- put in the pot, moron
pack of advice gave - put on a bag and blow a hairdryer into his ass. not Pakatu, Panasonic

oooh, come running ... banned

listen, we definitely need to be covered, how Yara showed which mv to choose Panasonic, which HP there vapshche without options
rusja
And I have a Panasonic current alone on the economy - an inverter (smart type) air conditioner
Anna1957
I bought Panas in Thailand, which I wrote about more than once. When I stood in front of many multicooker in the store (I only remember Sharpe and Toshiba), not knowing which one to prefer, the saleswoman, seeing my indecision, advised me to Panas. I usually do not believe the sellers, but in this situation I listened and did not regret it even once. The price there is for a large one, identical to ours in functions (and not round, but of a modern form) - just a song: 2090 baht (= rubles). I wanted to buy Toshiba next year, but it didn't work out. I don’t regret reading the topic about her - they still perform more dances there, it seemed to me, although her cup is undoubtedly the best. I also bought a rice cooker with one button there, a small one with a Teflon saucepan for 400 baht (now my son is delighted with it). The cheapest, with an aluminum bowl, start at 265 baht (large). Now it's the turn of the slow cooker.There they are different, I liked the ceramic pots with drawings, someone has already shown them here (I do not remember which topic).
And don't quarrel, girls. The best is Panas from Thailand
Ukka
IRR, but why are there no such battles over pressure cookers? Maybe because there reliability (except for pots) is laid a priori - otherwise it will explode to hell!
Right now they will definitely beat me - the best cartoon is the pressure cooker !!! Its roof is in place, but it blows the mistress completely! I've been cooking in it since February, but I won't get away from the shock - how so, chicken soup in 15 minutes!
IRR
Quote: ukka

. They will definitely beat me with slippers or brooms ...

yes kaneshn, you are here and modern, hara-kiri, olka, on the square in front of the pagoda and we will see, take a look, how the flood ends in profile topics

Quote: ukka

IRR, but why are there no such battles over pressure cookers? M

that's right, there's no one to write badly

Tavos is a quiet and solemn chopin.
Song
Quote: ukka

let him do what he can do well - porridge, stewing, and BAKERY! This is where his quiet character is used, where he is just gold.
Gold words! ukka absolutely correctly identified its niche!
I love him myself, although I have already tried to put it under the table a couple of times, since I bought all sorts of others, but ... I got it again, because his a business in its niche he does the best!

P.S. All of the above is about MV Panasonic.
Gasha
Quote: IRR

I read that topic 100 years ago, porridge escapes, what to do?

gan, hear, and we also had a topic - she poured water into the pan, but forgot to put the pan itself

this is also a Panasonic gat, why didn't I come up with a red button- put in the pan, moron
pack of advice gave - put on a bag and blow a hairdryer into his ass. not pakatu, panasonic

And the topic - "I forgot to insert into the socket" - not bulo?

Hto against Panasonic - he is not worthy of him !!!

Quote: IRR
oooh, come running ... banned

did you see yourself in the mirror ???
IRR
Quote: Gasha

Hto against Panasonic - he is not worthy of him !!!

well, well ... somehow you need to justify your investments
Natalia K.
Quote: ukka

that's why there are no such battles over pressure cookers?
Ol, why fight there. I can say that DEX-40 loses to Panasonic in baking, stewing and stewing. Otherwise, the DEX-40 is a very indispensable assistant. I also can't get used to the fact that the soup is made in 15 minutes and the chicken is cooked in 25 minutes.
Song
Quote: IRR

well, well ... somehow you need to justify your investments
IRR, do not swear, otherwise how will we take offense here and or
IRR
Quote: rusja

And I have a Panasonic current alone on the economy - an inverter (smart type) air conditioner

Olya, about the inverter one, 2 days ago she installed a middea (inexpensive) and a familiar specialist installer said that it was the inverter one that did not notice any savings, etc. (and these are all inverter ones, yes) I will erase the message myself

Quote: Song *

IRR, do not swear

that I myself am tolerance and forgiveness (Tolstoy's version on the face, on the face, Ganya already piled on Skype)
Vichka
Quote: Rita

IRRka is a panasonicophobe!
And what are you all, PANASONIK, yes PANASONIK !!! Why is he so good? Polaris 508 is its full analogue, and porridge and pilaf and on stewing works one to one like Panas (there was a comparison), well, I like him, but after other mules, well, you can't say that he is the main happiness, just VETERAN.
Ukka
Quote: VS NIKA

And what are you all, PANASONIK, yes PANASONIK !!! Why is he so good? Polaris 508 is its full analogue, and porridge and pilaf and on stewing works one to one like Panas (there was a comparison), well, I like him, but after other mules, well, you can't say that he is the main happiness, just VETERAN.
And what about Polaris' service?
IRR
Quote: natalisha_31

... I can say that DEX-40 loses to Panasonic in baking, stewing and stewing.

nook nook. This is interesting and another turn of the topic.
Natasha! i.e. it turns out not so tasty Yes? how in Panasonic? though faster.
And biscuits aren't like that? (because baking in Panasonic is very, very)
Vichka
Quote: ukka

And what about Polaris' service?
I'm not for Panasonic, I'm for reliability ...
Spare bowls can be bought in Moscow, on Sharikopodshipnikovskaya street, it was for sure, a friend bought it, there is a service. I can't say anything about reliability, my Polaris plows and plows, he doesn't need anything.
Vichka
By the way! Pilaf in Polaris 508 tastes better than in Brand 37501 !!!
And the casseroles are not so words!
Gasha
Quote: IRR

And biscuits are not like that? (because baking in Panasonic is very, very)

Gyyy ..... Here is the floor praaalnaaa !!! The conversation in the corner was good!

Vic, it's not about Panasonic being the best, but about the fact that no need to offend others by praising your own devices, and undeservedly ...

I cannot compare Panasonic with Polaris, because I do not have Polaris (and will not).

But the very fact that for six years of work Panasonic has not had a single failure - says a lot (I have not even changed the pan, although I have a spare one), so it's too early to write it off into outdated models ... at first they will serve the same flawlessly for the same period, then let's talk!
Rita
Quote: VS NIKA

And what are you all, PANASONIK, yes PANASONIK !!! Why is he so good?
Quote: IRR


And biscuits are not like that? (because baking in Panasonic is very, very)
Such biscuits, as in Panas, did not work for me in any multicooker. In addition to the cartoons that I have below, I tried to bake them in the first Brands.
We are not saying that the other multi is bad. We say that Panasonic has undeniable advantages.
Ukka
I am not for Panasonic, I am for reliability ... And happiness is not in Panasonic, but in the fact that it works confidently, without failures for some for 6 years! And besides, the percentage of getting into the service is very small ... How many multicooker work so long?
Why does the manufacturer a priori put reliability in pressure cookers? A multicooker cannot be done so well?
Cool cartoon DEX, at one time I caught fire with it ... And then you read - breakdown, no repair, only exchange. Come on, this exchange is on me? Back and forth, but I'm not pleased ... Well, it's dreary with these exchanges ... And I want my favorite technique not to break! Let the cartoon I have is 100 years old, and there are few modes there, but it is reliable. And I have the missing modes in the other two!
IRR
Quote: Gasha


I don't have Polaris (and won't).

never say never, they will begin to improve polaris on our website, and kaaaak they will start to sell free beta testing to everyone
we nafik us your polaris, (we didn't endure the brands) and they need
* Anyuta *
Quote: Gasha


But the very fact that Panasonic has not had a single failure in six years of work speaks volumes (I have not even changed the pan yet, although I have a spare one),

And now I’m thinking .. whether I got excited with two spare bowls for Panasik? .. there would be at least one native and one spare "demolish" ...
Ukka
Will you sell me like this in 5 years? When is mine completely worn out?
* Anyuta *
Quote: ukka

Will you sell me like this in 5 years? When is mine completely worn out?

yeah ... I'll put it in my stash right away ...
Manna
GirlsMaybe the first Panasonic (as well as other manufacturers have this) were reliable and work for 5-6 years, but those that are now selling ... give up in the first months of work. Maybe it comes across a marriage ... I can't say for sure. But you also have to tinker with the repair.
Natalia K.
Quote: IRR

nook nook. This is already interesting and another turn of the topic.
Natasha! i.e. it turns out not so tasty Yes? how in Panasonic? though faster.
And biscuits aren't like that? (because baking in Panasonic is very, very)
IRRA Look, I compared Panasonic and DEX-40 when baking biscuits, baking buns, boiling jellied meat, cooking canned food.
In Panasonic, biscuits and buns are tall and fluffy. Panasonic rules
In DEX-40, biscuit and buns are not so high.
Jellied meat in Panasonic is something.
The DEX-40 turns out to be muddy, I did not like it.
I also like canned food more in Panasonic than in DEX-40.
But this is my IMHO.
Ukka
Quote: * Annie *

yeah ... I'll put it in my stash right away ...
Correctly !!! For the dowry?
I think that Panasonic has one big drawback - expensive spare wheels. But theirs serve well too.And if you find a 100% suitable stainless steel pan in China, then Panasik will become eternal in general ... But there are no such saucepans, alas ... Even my experiments with inserting a stainless steel spare tire from a pressure cooker into Panasik did not go further than inserting - I'm afraid ...
When my Yulka finally gets married, I'll give (or buy) her Panasik the big one, buy e-mail. a pressure cooker (I won't give Brandika 50, I need it myself) and some kind of inexpensive cartoon for picking up (only a spare tire could be bought). And I'll give the Master-pilaf, it’s worth it, I don’t eat in such volumes ... But I’ll buy a manunu-Panasik for myself, I’ll leave Brandik 6050 and Klasha ...
So I was a fool in 2007-2008 ... I go to Foxtrot, there is a Master-pilaf (my dream at that time) for 700 UAH and some nondescript saucepan for 480 UAH, it is written - Panasonic. I did not understand the meaning of it then ...
Time passed, I have both Panasonic and Master-Pilaf ... In the Master I cooked it once and stands for the dowry to Yulka ... But Panasikov could buy 10 for my salary of that time ... I bought it, you fool, at least just a couple ...
IRR
Quote: Stafa

natalisha_31 I hope that the owners of dex are more loyal than redmond 01. For such comparisons, they compared me with a bad dancer who was interfering with something, called them with crooked hands and learned a lot about myself.

but now you have a slow cooker, and there are generally minimum costs with a stable result. And no one says that you have crooked hands, but on the contrary, very good and wonderful meat comes out. And just rubbed it, put it in and
what am I about now
but about the slow cooker
all bye and till evening. it was fun and cool with you in the morning, because you are all kind and good, even those who wave a rolling pin
valushka-s
you can throw your slippers! but I have my own opinion, and I don't like it when someone else is imposed on me!
the topic, as I see it, has become useless, as a continuous PR Panas!
but I don’t need it for nothing! especially the one that sells with us! and there are girls who have Panas and other multi, and they think that Panas is not bad, but another cartoon is better!
I don't even need Panas for a gift! and if you want some more, I'll dream, think about other cartoons or about cuckoos!
I really don't like it when they say too categorically! "My opinion is the most correct, and there can be no others!" --- this is complete nonsense !!!
it is great that your panasy pleases you! but there are other multi, and other people who do not use Panas, but are very satisfied with their technique!
and it cannot be argued, if you PERSONALLY did not work out with another cartoon (and not Panas) that all the rest fuckers all around they lie, clumsy, such and such, if they have developed with that cartoon that did not suit you! and screaming everywhere that that technique is bad because you haven’t fused with it!
WE SHOULD RESPECT ANOTHER'S CHOICE, LABOR AND OPINION!
behold ukka it does not shout at every step that the master pilaf is full of G ..., because probably someone likes this unit and someone is very pleased with it, and often uses it!
everything suits me in my mule! what I expect from her, and everything I need she cooks! but this is according to my needs.
and the frying is good, and the build quality, and a very successful bowl, and sensory programs, and memory retention during a power outage, and the clock, and the convenience of setting the timer ... and a lot of things that I like about it! And you don’t need to tell me that she is so and so, she copes with her tasks with a bang!

Quote: Gasha

Gyyy ..... Here is the floor praaalnaaa !!! The conversation in the corner was good!
Vic, it's not about Panasonic being the best, but about the fact that no need to offend others by praising your own devices, and undeservedly ...
and I agree !!! no need to praise your own devices and offend others !!! and undeservedly !!!
THE TASTE AND COLOR AS THEY SAY .............. there is no consensus in the whole world about beauty, its canons, etc., etc., and here we are about our preferences!
At the same time, I do not exclude that someday I will also have a Panas, but only if it is modern, and not a rarity classic! After all, as here on the links showed that Panas has "smart" modern saucepans!
the fact that Panas was one of the first cartoons to appear in Russia, respect and respect to him! but nothing more!
it would be nice and we were supplied not with old models, but with the latest modern multi-design!
rusja
Quote: ukka

And what is your cartoon?
I'm in profile 5 pcs. counted
so the overview and horizons are extensive
Vei
Quote: ukka

And what is your cartoon?
Valyusha has the main love, about which she spoke - Brand 37501!
valushka-s
Quote: ukka

And what is your cartoon?
of those on my farm, my Brand 37501!
I also like pressure cookers, but I cook more in a mule! I know some girls like SV even more, but I'm more used to cooking in a cartoon. but everyone has their own preferences! although lately I've been cooking only in SV.
and the son does not even come to SV
* Anyuta *
So ... on my tip and recommendation, another MV was bought today ... Brandik ...

do not care what cartoon ... the main assistant is ...
Ukka
Quote: valushka-s

behold ukka it does not shout at every step that the master pilaf is full of G ..., because probably someone likes this unit and someone is very pleased with it, and often uses it!
And I won't say that the Master-Pilaf is g ... because it is a good device in general, but its volume is too much for me and my father ... And for a family - very, very much !!!
Quote: valushka-s

everything suits me in my mule! what I expect from her, and everything I need she cooks! but this is according to my needs.
and the frying is good, and the build quality, and a very successful bowl, and sensory programs, and memory retention during a power outage, and the clock, and the convenience of setting the timer ... and a lot of things that I like about it! And you don’t need to tell me that she is so and so, she copes with her tasks with a bang!
You probably missed it, I wrote about DEKS-60, an analogue of Brand 37501, that the cartoon is cool, only with the service it has problems ... Because of this lack of service, you will think about purchasing ... And no one is bad about your multicooker did not say ... If everything is fine with your service, what is far wrong, then yes, a cartoon dream !!!

Let's get back to our rams cartoons ...
How did the whole skirmish begin - someone praised Panasik and began - each for a different cartoon, and which he does not have, shouts - fuuuu ...

Maybe we can do without emotions, and specifically, when a beginner asks, we will ask what his requirements for the cartoon are, what he most often cooks, loves stewed or fried more, loves milk or not ...
And we will immediately warn the beginner that this model has trend modes like this, but this one is lame, and so on. And if this service has a multinomial service, mmm, so as not to contact it, but still. And is it possible to buy a spare tire, it is very important ...

Quote: * Annie *

So ... on my tip and recommendation, another MV was bought today ... Brandik ...
do not care what cartoon ... the main assistant is ...

Brandik is not a pofik which cartoon, this is a normal cartoon, this is not Vinis for you, or like her, the one that Polina bought - it's impossible to cook ...
* Anyuta *
Quote: ukka

Brandik is not a pofik which cartoon, this is a normal cartoon, this is not Vinis for you, or like her, the one that Polina bought - it's impossible to cook ...

So I made and insisted that Brandik take ... and the argument was "iron" ... there are adequate sellers who solve ANY problems and even bypassing the store, if something is "serious" .... apparently this argument played a role ...
Ukka
Is it true that Brand 37501 is being discontinued ???
Well, then how can you recommend it in this thread? Like I have the best cartoon in the world (I do not argue), but you buy it figs ... It's a shame ...
Elena Bo
Brand 37501 has been discontinued, but you can still buy it.
julifera
Quote: Elena Bo

Brand 37501 has been discontinued, but you can still buy it.

I can't understand if everything in Brand is adequate and everyone likes the cartoon, why then was it removed from production?
Elena Bo
The PAVOS plant, which produced the multicooker, was bought by Phillips. Phillips refused to cooperate with Brand. Therefore, the Brand 37501 multicooker and the Brand 6050 pressure cooker, which were produced there, have been discontinued.
* Anyuta *
My girl bought a 502 model ... I really feel like some kind of "godmother" .... I'm happy as if I took it for myself ...
irysska
Quote: natalisha_31

IRRA look, I compared Panasonic and DEX-40
Natasha, why compare just a cartoon and a pressure cooker? in my understanding - still slightly different devices (although the second one can work without pressure, but still - it is a pressure cooker)
then you need to compare baking in Panasik and Dex-60, for example, but not in a pressure cooker - I think so
irysska
Quote: Stafa

Hope dex owners are more loyal
Sveta, you can be sure. Well, Panasik bakes coolly tender pastries, and Dex 60 lacks Panasik's tenderness a little - so what, it is as it is - why let smoke through your ears
* Anyuta *
Quote: irysska

Well, Panasik bakes coolly tender pastries, and Dex 60 lacks Panasik's tenderness a little - so what, it is as it is - why let smoke through your ears

I wrote about this just yesterday ... ... and it was about baking ... but the cutlets and chicken parts are now exclusively provided to Dex
Stafa
Quote: * Annie *

but the cutlets and chicken parts are now exclusively provided to Dex
And my air fryer is engaged in this, cutlets, chicken parts and much more without oil. And then the cartoon is definitely not in the cashier, not for that.
Manna
Quote: ukka

If everything is in order with the service, what is far wrong, then yes, a cartoon dream !!!
How is it? What's wrong with Brand's service?
Quote: * Annie *

So I made and insisted that Brandik take ... and the argument was "iron" ... there are adequate sellers who solve ANY problems and even bypassing the store, if something is "serious" .... apparently this argument played a role ...


For me ... that's how Brand captivates precisely by its responsive service, for which minor flaws are forgiven him
valushka-s
Quote: * Annie *

So ... on my tip and recommendation, another MV was bought today ... Brandik ...
congratulate her from us!
Quote: * Annie *

do not care what cartoon ... the main assistant is ...
the main thing is that the cartoon would cook well and not disappoint its owner! because our girls cook in different cartoons and are also happy with their helpers! and the cartoon assistant is our everything !!!
Quote: ukka

If everything is in order with the service, what is far wrong, then yes, a cartoon dream !!!
so, apparently you do not have info! Brand's service seems to be fine! T. T. T. and I hope that the mulychka will not let you down further!
Quote: ukka

Let's get back to our rams cartoons ...
How did the whole skirmish begin - someone praised Panasik and began - each to a different cartoon, and which he does not have, shouts - fuuuu ...
the fact of the matter is that everywhere some hayut all the others are multi, if it's not Panas!
..............
Quote: ukka

Maybe we can do without emotions, and specifically, when a beginner asks, we will ask what his requirements for the cartoon are, what he most often cooks, loves stewed or fried more, loves milk or not ...
And we will immediately warn the beginner that this model has trend modes like this, but this one is lame, and so on. And if this service has a multinomial service, mmm, so as not to contact it, but still. And is it possible to buy a spare tire, it is very important ...
you can't argue with that! but the point is, I don't see any flaws in my mule yet. everything I need she does wonderfully.
and I don’t understand how you, without it, can find some flaws in it!
yes, maybe I don’t know how Panas bakes (I don’t hayu because I haven’t tried this pastry), but not having Panas I don’t suffer from it, and my mulychka bakes well!
we just have the right to our opinion, and even if it is at odds with someone!
you can send a person who chooses to topics where girls cook in cartoons of interest to him, let him read and look, make his choice, maybe even go to the shopping center and look live, maybe for someone the design (this is the same everyday use) plays an important role, and makes his own choice!
in principle, the dispute is not about anything!
Now, if I am not mistaken, the Asconi star was not imbued with any cartoons, but it is very disposed to cuckoos, but this is her right. and she does not impose it on anyone. nowhere especially hait all the other multi, not having them. I just bought myself the one that I think is the best.
let's live in peace! and respect each other!
azaza
Quote: ukka

these are all pointless disputes ... How can you and I argue which is better, Panasonic or Dax? You have Dax, I have Panasonic. But you don't have Panasonic, but I have Dax ... The owner who has and regularly uses both can adequately assess ...

Ol, here are the statements of the owners of Panas and Dex (Brand):

Quote: Prus - 2

I myself recently bought Dexica, and I want to tell you - this is a very, very successful purchase! I am now testing it on all programs (since I have been cooking in Panasonic for almost 2 years) and I want to tell you honestly - Dex is BETTER! Maybe he has a slightly smaller bowl (4 liters versus 4.5 liters), but he copes with all the recipes Just like Panas!

Quote: Oca

But I’m still for the Brand multicooker. There’s quality, service, and price ... And if something (God forbid!) Breaks down, I’m sure they will help me right away! What I can’t say about our local Panasonic service.

Is that adequate enough?
In general, there is no reason to argue. A good cartoon that really helps each of us live.
Ukka
Quote: azaza

Ol, here are the statements of the owners of Panas and Dex (Brand):
In general, there is no reason to argue. A good cartoon that really helps each of us live.
Yes, Tan, this is a real comparison, a person has both multi. And so, not having this model, it's not good to fool and offend your opponent ...
Quote: valushka-s

so, apparently you do not have info! Brand's service seems to be fine! T. T. T. and I hope that the mulychka will not let you down further!
As far as I carefully read all the topics about Brand, our Brandovtsy (Vadim, Elena, Denis) are very responsive and always help with problems. Service is at its best if multi-brand direct dealers sell. If they are indirect, then sometimes there are problems with the service and our brandy people solve them (they are great for us). That's what I meant, that's why I wrote it in the interlinear. If I'm wrong, then I apologize ... You can see the situation better on the spot! But ... the last 37501 will be sold, the spare parts delivered by Brand will run out, then what? And if we now, already knowing about the departure of Brand 37501 and Dax 60, (some of the best cartoon models) recommend this cartoon to a person, so we must warn him about it !!!

The theme is called, not whose cartoon is better, but "Choosing a slow cooker"!
valushka-s
ukka Olya, I totally agree that buyers should know!
so in our subject it is written that the cartoon (Brand 37501) is discontinued! as well as 6050.
like, if my memory serves me, then while the cartoon is under warranty, spare parts for it should be produced.
Therefore, I do not bother much about this.
Yes, no one knew that such a situation would happen with Phillips. we were still waiting for the release of model 501, but here.
while our mules are with us, you need to enjoy the convenience of use, and then we will see! We can still invent something!

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