Vei
Quote: Omela

Olga, so everyone went through this torment. And with the first .. and with the second and .. with a multicooker. The person himself must decide what he needs, there is information on each model. Because any opinion is subjective, as you understand.
That's right, that's why in this topic we either just discuss different models, especially new ones, or after learning your requirements for CF, we can offer to read about specific models that meet the selection criteria. We execute a kind of filter in the search engine, but we will not make the choice for you)))
valushka-s
Quote: Gasha

Valyush, let's be careful in expressions and advice!

Panasonic is not just good, but a VERY good multicooker, and the most reliable one!
I know that many are happy with it, and even very much.
but I was surprised and amazed why Panas does not improve, does not develop newer perfect models of multicooker!

I think the girl needs to decide on the functions she needs, and read in the topics how which cartoon copes with these tasks, which ones are + and - these models have! watch them live, and make your choice!
or maybe in the store another model will like, and it will be love at first sight!

Liz, I agree with you! all correctly stated! there are a lot of nuances for which the choice of the assistant is made!

and I can't even imagine how you can do without Brand 37501! if suddenly something, I don't even know what to do! it is hoped that by that time there will be a newer model, no worse than my favorite!
Sonadora
Valyushwhy not perfect? The new model adds functions that were not there before: soup, buckwheat, dumplings, compote. If she could still cook under pressure, she would have no price at all, but that's just my opinion.
valushka-s
Quote: Sonadora

Valyushwhy not perfect? The new model adds functions that were not there before: soup, buckwheat, dumplings, compote. If she could still cook under pressure, she would have no price at all, but that's just my opinion.

for so many years, so far only one has been released.
But with such functionality there is already a large selection of mules! now there is plenty to choose from.
apparently, they previously did not consider this topic promising for its development, and did not stake on it.
but who knows, maybe now they will come up with some kind of innovation ?! and overtake their competitors.

Song
Quote: Sonadora

If she could still cook under pressure -
... it would already be a pressure cooker.
Leska
Quote: valushka-s


for so many years, so far only one has been released.
But with such functionality there is already a large selection of mules! now there is plenty to choose from.
apparently, they previously did not consider this topic promising for its development, and did not stake on it.
but who knows, maybe now they will come up with some kind of innovation ?! and overtake their competitors.
Valyusha, if in Russia Panasonic is presented in 1-2 models, then this is by no means the manufacturer's fault. When my son arranged a video tour of the assortment hall of the plant (after the flood and restoration of workshops), I was in the deep.
valushka-s
Quote: Leska

Valyusha, if in Russia Panasonic is presented in 1-2 models, then this is by no means the manufacturer's fault. When my son arranged a video tour of the assortment hall of the plant (after the flood and restoration of workshops), I was in the deep.

well, what can you say, it's sad!
it is a pity that the Panas company treats its consumers like that!
it looks like fashion! someone takes the most fashionable models at the moment, someone takes (depending on the consumer's capabilities) models of the last season with a discount, and someone is out of fashion, uses only the classics! It is a pity that Panas deprives us (if he already has a choice of multicooker) of choice! but offers only "last season models"!
yaKachka
it is a pity that the Panas company treats its consumers like that!
Rather, our buyers, perhaps simply do not want to let more sophisticated Panasonic cars enter our market (someone should buy all sorts of Redmonds and others like him). We would have these Panasonic models on the market
Choosing a multicooker, pressure cooker, rice cooker (2)Choosing a multicooker, pressure cooker, rice cooker (2)Choosing a multicooker, pressure cooker, rice cooker (2)
For many, the question would not stand, which cartoon to take more modern.
* Anyuta *
Quote: Olyushka

(Theme of Multvark DEX-60, p. 533): "I myself just recently bought Deksik, and I want to tell you - this is a very, very successful purchase! I am now testing it on all programs (since I have been cooking in Panasonic) and I want to tell you honestly - Dex is BETTER! ".
So take your pick! Good luck!
Quote: Gasha

Again, this is the personal opinion of one person!
Gasha ... .. as the owner of both Panas and Dex 60, I will say that baking in Panas is baking in Panas and there is nothing to add here, but in Dex - it is just good ... and moreover, not always (even taking into account it power) .. This is IMHO ....
Lerele
But if all the multicooker disappeared from you, and you had to buy one, which one would you buy ???
Oca
Lerele, I would take Brand 37501 again, the red one - for my family it has all the necessary functions (sensory "porridge", Frying, Yogurt, Stewing, Steamer with a delay in the morning (!) + clock + energy-independent memory), excellent bowl coverage and suitable displacement. I used the manual mode twice in 7 months: when I made cottage cheese and baked pies. I can make baked goods even on "porridge", even on Fry, I rarely use other modes.
Luysia
Quote: Oca

I can make baked goods even on "porridge", even on Fry, I rarely use other modes.

Wasp, why do you make baked goods on Zharka and Milk porridge? I have nothing against it, but quite interesting!

I bake with Baking or Manual (1500FROM)
Oca
Luysia, it meant "porridge" = "Buckwheat" and "Rice", then that before the water boils, it is multivariate. I cooked only milk cream on Milk Porridge, it turned out delicious, did not burn (again, personal preferences, milk porridge is not in demand with us). On Manual +150 (according to your advice) I don't really like the bottom, it is fried strongly, the whole power of the heater is felt. And somehow it turned out that, asleep, she poked at the first mode on the list, poured out the dough and came to her senses only after half an hour and nothing, everything is fine! Now I bake 90% of muffins for 1-2 eggs in Brand 37300 (old model 3L) on Basic mode - how the water evaporated, so the cake is ready, is it logical? What Brand 37501 lacks is control of water boiling off on Steam, you can't fry eggs in the same way as in 37300.Therefore, I make large scrambled eggs in MV, which is called with the letter P ...
On Frying Meat or on Manual +180 you get nice Pies in oil.

PS If the dish is new and I don't know what it is cooked on, I put it on the Stantart mode (Basic / Porridge / Rice / Krupa) - the cartoon has never spoiled the food! If I want to burn it, I put it on Manual
Vei
I would have bought Panas just because of the biscuits!)))
Since old Panasonic bakes them, no one else can. As a result, it forgives any jambs on the dough, and bakes an even, tall and beautiful biscuit.
And the rest is in pressure cookers)))
Leska
Quote: yaKachka

Rather, our buyers, perhaps simply do not want to let more sophisticated Panasonic cars enter our market (someone should buy all sorts of Redmonds and others like him). We would have these Panasonic models on the market
Choosing a multicooker, pressure cooker, rice cooker (2)Choosing a multicooker, pressure cooker, rice cooker (2)Choosing a multicooker, pressure cooker, rice cooker (2)
Plus, these models have a bowl-pan with diamond processing on the outside and coated with fluorine on the inside (rice and cereals need and can be washed in it and no scratches - the instructions themselves are allowed). Rice in this bowl cooks faster and it is much tastier and more fluffy than in the old workaholic Panasonic. You don't have to talk about baking.
IRR
Quote: Leska

Plus they still have such a pan

sho for the pan? why is it so wonderful? do you have?
IRR
Quote: Leska

Irish, this is a bowl for Thai pasik

Well, I get it, but what is it about her? it is stronger, right? what is the ribbing outside?
Diatima
Thanks everyone for the comments.
I don’t know how you can decide on the choice in the store? On the Internet, you can find all the information about the model you like, and read whether you need it or not. So I read the internet. I reread many articles, forums, and narrowed my searches down to these two models. I have no problems with technology, there are many buttons, or few.I don't need to buy a simple one to understand something, and then buy something more sophisticated. You can immediately heaped up))))) I cook everything, I love baking, Panasonic seems to cook well, but the functions are not enough in my opinion. Polaris, functional, but it's some kind of polaris, not a Panasonic, reliable, time-tested multicooker!))) So I got confused among these two. Temki read about each one, it is difficult to understand something, people mostly share recipes ...
Vei
Diatima, but you never answered
Quote: Vei

Well, I can't agree with that!
Panasonic is a good cartoon, but here the question is different: how much the functions and capabilities of this or that MV will be in demand.
If there is no desire to bother with the modes, then you need an MB, in which each cooking operation is carried out in a separate mode in the menu, that is, there will be the same eggs only from different angles (frying all types of products, baking, casserole, crust, etc.)
Do you need yogurt or a multi-cook, which is more important - active frying, or correct Milk porridge, which is more important - flexibility in control or sensory modes.
Which type of bowl is best for you, the ability to purchase an additional or replacement bowl, the quality and the possibility of after-sales service.

From sensory MVs, you can consider Panasonic TMN-18 (and others like it) and Stadler form, you can also include Brand 37501, which has 2 sensor modes.

From multi-mode Polaris 0517, Redmond 4502; M-60; M-70; M-90; M-150, Brand 502.

What is the budget allocated for the purchase, since even for 2500r you can buy a multifunctional and good cartoon with absolutely all the necessary functions and even a multi-cook (!), For example, Polaris 0508 Floris.

There are a lot of options, you need to clearly formulate the tasks:
-Volume
-Gastronomic preferences in the family
-The family's lifestyle (how important is the delay or speed of cooking) may you even need a pressure cooker more
-Involvement in the cooking process (Desire or ability to understand or control the process)
-Budget
Oca
But I’m still for the Brand multicooker. There’s quality, service, and price ... And if something (God forbid!) Breaks down, I’m sure they will help me right away! What I can’t say about our local Panasonic service. Several acquaintances at my filing bought them, so far no one has complained. Another MV has arrived from the capital, she is standing in the corridor waiting for her mistress.
Vichka
Quote: Oca

But I’m still for the Brand multicooker. There’s quality, service, and price ... And if something (God forbid!) Breaks down, I’m sure they will help me right away! What I can’t say about our local Panasonic service. Several acquaintances at my filing bought them, so far no one has complained. Another MV has arrived from the capital, she is standing in the corridor waiting for her mistress.
So I, too, supplied all my friends, colleagues with Brand, everyone is happy !!!
Lerele
And my daughters and I are happy with the Brand, I have 6050, I gave her 37501.
And here everyone chooses other multi, I’ll still wait for a small Brand, I need a small one, but I just can’t choose, all of which is missing.
And yes, it’s a shame that the Brand doesn’t spread in the same way as one strongly advertised on the neighboring forum. Even we already sell such multicooker at the price of an airplane.
And do not throw your slippers, but as soon as I see the shape of a racing helmet, it’s immediately rejection, I don’t want that.
So, there are other selection criteria.
* Anyuta *
Quote: VS NIKA

So I, too, supplied all my friends, colleagues with Brand, everyone is happy !!!

And today I sent another friend for MV ... only now for Brandik ...
Lerele
Quote: Diatima

Are they collected in China? How is the assembly?
I don't know how to assemble, but we like the saucepans.
Keti
Quote: Diatima

Are they collected in China? How is the assembly?

Now everyone is collecting in China The main thing is how conscientiously. And for this we are here and we are checking whether we have done a good one or not. And of course we will only offer the best to others.

P / S friend, after listening to my stories, bought a multicooker. But ... I bought Panasonic, although I advised DEH. She said it's a famous brand.About a year has passed, the daughter is getting married and she gives her DEX for her wedding. I say, why so? She, DEH, is still an improved model, they are young, and Panasonic is enough for me. And then I bought a DEX for my friend. I say, why didn't you buy yourself right away? ...
As they say, everything is learned by comparison.
Diatima
Okay girls, thanks.
I registered on this site, they praised me Polaris PMC 0517AD, went to the section about it, they began to praise the Panasonic SR-TMJ181. I began to try to deal with them, they praise Brand 502, and now there is also a certain DEH ...
So I understand which one I will buy and then I will praise you as well. You can't try everything right away?
I got confused now, I was sure I want Polaris PMC 0517AD, but now I don’t know, Brand 502 is also not bad in terms of descriptions ...
Does Panasonic have a sensor program? Nothing burns in it and does not run away, it turns out crumbly.
Lerele
Dex is a Ukrainian multicooker and an analogue of Brand 37501.
If I needed a full-fledged large multicooker, I would buy exactly the 37501.
yaKachka
I don't need to buy a simple one to understand something, and then buy something more sophisticated. You can immediately heaped up))))) I cook everything, I love pastries, Panasonic seems to cook well, but the functions are not enough in my opinion.
Then Brand 37501. Modern, multifunctional, very good, durable bowl cover, company support. I have Panasonic-18 and Brand 37501, and if I chose between the two, I could have left only one - Brand would have left it.
Vei
Diatima, HERE is a comparison of 502 and 37501, read, better understand the difference.
Keti
DEKH-60 Choosing a multicooker, pressure cooker, rice cooker (2)
Twin brothers
DEH in Ukraine
Brand in Russia.
Arnica
Quote: yaKachka

We would have these Panasonic models on the market
Choosing a multicooker, pressure cooker, rice cooker (2)Choosing a multicooker, pressure cooker, rice cooker (2)Choosing a multicooker, pressure cooker, rice cooker (2)
For many, the question would not stand, which cartoon to take more modern.
Now, if such a Panassonik were sold here, I would also buy this rice cooker. And different. the price on the site is 140 USD e.
Elena Bo
If such a Panasonic were sold with us, it would cost 3 times more.
Arnica
You're right! So they sell with us something that is not even on the site anymore, but at a price more expensive than this model they have.
yaKachka
Now, if such a Panassonik were sold here, I would also buy this rice cooker. And different. the price on the site is 140 USD e.

These are not rice cookers, but multicooker. Of course I would buy it too.
If such a Panasonic were sold with us, it would cost 3 times more.
Exactly, our suppliers would wind up three times at least. Well, everything is unfair. In America, these multi-cookers are for a reasonable price - I don't want to take them. And even Panasonic pressure cookers for more than 5 liters are available, and the price is affordable.
Elena Bo
Most likely ours are purchased by a prehistoric model at bargain prices. It is not profitable for them to take something more expensive, because it sells so well.
Anna1957
Quote: Leska

Irish, this is a bowl for Thai pasik

Leska, in which shops are they sold? I asked at Big C and Tesco Lotus in Pattaya - it was not. Specify, if possible, with your son - maybe next. buy once.
yaKachka
It is not profitable for them to take something more expensive, because it sells so well.
Exactly But then our Panasonic is already a classic - the first multicooker in the world! I am still on sale and I want to buy Panasik-18 for my daughter. Of course, there will be and there are already a lot of all sorts of modified multicooker, but the classic is the classic (cartoon legend). And let the heaped up and modern she herself then choose what she likes, progress does not stand still.
Arnica
Interesting: whoever would like to buy a Nokia 3310 phone now is also a classic.
IRR
Quote: yaKachka


These are not rice cookers, but multicooker.

all multi-cookers are rice cookers (for terminology accuracy)

Quote: yaKachka

Exactly But then our Panasonic is already a classic - the first multicooker in the world!

the first rice cooker in the world was made of wood. And the first electronic rice cooker from Toshiba, in the 56th year of the last century.

In 1937, the Imperial Japanese Army authorized the equipping of mobile car kitchens with primitive rice cookers. They were a rectangular wooden box with two electrodes.To prepare the rice, the box was filled with washed rice and water, then a current was passed through the electrodes. The water boiled and the rice was boiled. When the rice was cooked, the amount of water decreased, resulting in an increase in resistance and a decrease in temperature, thus automatically keeping it warm. This method, however, was not perfect, as it gave different results under different conditions. The unit also posed a high risk of electric shock and was not intended for home cooking.

In 1945, Mitsubishi Corporation became the first company in Japan to produce a home electric rice cooker. The product was an aluminum pan with a heating coil inside. She did not have an automatic shutdown mode and required constant supervision during the cooking process.

yaKachka
all multi-cookers are rice cookers (for terminology accuracy)
But it was Panasonic who first guessed to provide the rice cooker with an expanded number of functions, touch programs, and this electronic saucepan became a multicooker.
the first rice cooker in the world was made of wood.
Our frying pan-oven Miracle Soviet, too, according to this logic, turns out to be the grandmother of modern multicooker, and in principle, it is so.
IRR
Quote: yaKachka

But it is Panasonic for the first time I figured out to provide the rice cooker with an expanded number of functions, touch programs and this electronic saucepan became a multicooker.

do you claim it?
Or just Panasonic the first hit our market? and therefore you think that it is the first with advanced features?
I think that Toshiba put her hand first and gave impetus to the multicooker rice cookers, although I can't say for sure.
In fact, the history of rice cookers is a very exciting experience.
yaKachka
do you claim it?
Not me)))
BT: Panasonic multicooker started a new era in Russian kitchens, became the embodiment of the dream of a magic pot that he cooks himself. How did the idea of ​​creating such a device come about?
“We wanted to create a universal appliance that would greatly simplify the life of the consumer and allow him to enjoy tasty and healthy dishes. To do this, we have carried out relevant research and developed programs for a new product. It received the name "multicooker" for its versatility.

(spoke with Roman GORNOV - head of the household appliances department at PANASONIC)
In fact, the history of rice cookers is a very exciting experience.
That's for sure, but the main thing is that the Japanese are good fellows who have invented such a wonderful saucepan to help us! (The invention is worthy of the Nobel Prize, I think)))
Ukka
Well, it started again ...
Who invented a multicooker rice cooker before ... Well, that's what you don't like Panasonic? Well, he came to our market earlier, and well done! This means that his marketers turned out to be better ...
And about who came up with the first rice cooker ... Read Wikipedia ...
But an interesting fact ... I met photographs and information that rice cookers (electric) were successfully used in the kitchens of Suvorov schools in the USSR in the distant 50s ...
Arnica
Yes, no one argues about Panassonik himself, of course, a good MV. It's just that it's morally outdated by comparison ...
Ukka
Yes, and the Klatronic rice cooker is so generally the century before last ??? Nevertheless, it worked for me for three and a half years, and I'm not going to give it up, I bought a spare tire for it. I use it for certain dishes - stewed cabbage, vegetable stew and pilaf from it tastes better for me ...
Ol, these are all senseless disputes ... How can you and I argue which is better, Panasonic or Dax? You have Dax, I have Panasonic. But you do not have Panasonic, and I have Dax ... The owner who has and regularly uses both can adequately assess ... And so ... We have only a comparative technical characteristic ...
I'm not going to argue with you about Brand 6050, here we are sisters, the shapers of this pressure cooker!
I remain in my opinion - multicooker - rice cooker - pressure cookers, it is desirable to have several reliable and different, with different modes! Well, there are no perfect instruments. In any there is some kind of minus, that's a little bit to the ideal was not enough!
Stafa
Quote: ukka

Well, it started again ...
Who invented a multicooker rice cooker before ... Well, that's what you don't like Panasonic? Well, he came to our market earlier, and well done!
This is not the reason. There is simply a concept - a standard. And everyone is trying to push off from him and approach him. After all, there is no such dispute either in steam cleaners, or in grills, or HP and other equipment. There, too, there are, as it were, recognized firms that produce better equipment, better in terms of characteristics, quality, and price, but there are no such battles either. But in cartoons it's a strange thing - and cheap and expensive pots are all trying to compare with Panasonic. Okay, from the economy segment, but the owners who consider their equipment to be the elite of pots, and they remember everything about Panas in the right place and out of place, although stupidly counting - you can buy 4 Panas for the price of a cuckoo. Why compare them, because the money is not paid for that. I have two Panasonic in my house - HP and cartoon, and I'm not a fanatic of Panasonic, my technique is different - I take some purely for checkers - this is my hood - all so beautiful and shiny, for almost a year it did not work for a guarantee from burnt out brains and they could not be replaced for lack of them. But this is a thing for my eyes and is not the essence of how it works, if only it fits into the interior. Although the price of the issue is not 3 kopecks, but 12 thousand, but not the point.
I would have taken the first cartoon more modestly or more expensively - not a fact .. when choosing, I first start from the names - who produces this technique - which companies, then I choose from them already - from eminent to non-names. If some non-names - I take and do not worry, I initially know INTO money down the drain in this case, or how lucky. So it was with AG - for me the Hotter company does not seem to exist, so there are only non-names in them and it is as if to choose the current with my eyes. And I always wondered why the eminent ones do not release AG. I did not find the answer - but I see the wrong segment. And here is the Philips air fryer or Aerofray Tefal - a completely different calico, but it seems from the same opera.
But - at least the quality is more or less guaranteed there, in contrast to non-names.
Now, to the brand - I think that it is also worthy of attention - the firm is well done, a little greased, a little listened and that's it, advertising is practically out of the blue. And little shoals will forgive, and they will send a thermal sensor and instructions on where to move it. But tell me, why send those sensors, isn't it easier to do it right away? Although maybe I want a lot? We are all different and each has its own selection criteria. You just have to be more tolerant and not offend out of the blue those who are out of step, not the fact that walking in formation go there

And never will the same brand and cuckoo roast and bake meat like AF. And milk tastes better in a slow cooker and porridge, too, and meat.
But we are looking for compromises so that one device can do everything. Until it turns out THAT, you still need to have other devices.
IRR
Quote: ukka

Well, it started again ...
Who invented a multicooker rice cooker before ... Well, that's what you don't like Panasonic?

and nothing started ...: girl_dance: where else can you just talk about the rice cooker, about the history of its development, and not argue over which one is better.
and Panasonic hasn't gotten rid of anything, just as cooking porridge, side dishes or just soup cannot become obsolete. And you shouldn't think that the Japanese always cooked rice in it, and only Panasonic started everything. Panasonic management will tell you something else, they can make excellent money on us, yes ... they can't take that away. Here are the first fellows brought to our market, so they are still in favor.
these models 10 and 18 are very cheap inexpensive (there is a photo on the site where there are many multicooker in a Chinese-Japanese store in a row, Panasonic's prices are 30 yea equivalent) and you yourself, Yukkochka, told us that prices started at the beginning of 2000 from 50 yea with us, and then jumped to 300 already in my memory.It is fortunate that other models have come to our market, otherwise there would be no place where now we can chat about rice cookers, or rather about the choice.


Quote: ukka

Yes, and the Klatronic rice cooker is so generally the century before last ??? Nevertheless, she worked for me for three and a half years,

Quote: ukka

Well, it started again ...



ABOUT, staf, kick your aunts
Stafa
Quote: IRR

and nothing started ..

ABOUT, staf, kick your aunts
I am kind and fluffy, I just didn’t have slowness before, but now I breathe in aromas at night in my sleep, she does not let me sleep tightly. Panas has eclipsed in taste for the belt, although there is something to cook Panas - such as rice. Well, he will get baked goods. Although not a fact.
Ukka
Answer ... if we were calm about the choice of others !!! Alas, we still don't know how ...
Yes, IRR, for Panas in 2007-2008 the price in our city in the Foxtrot network was something about 480 UAH ... 60 USD. f ... But then I did not know what a multicooker was ... I bought it ... I used to think that they had an overpriced price ($ 200 and more then) and now I think! I consider the optimal price to be 700-800 UAH for the availability of quality service. And their spare wheels are expensive ... But read the topic about repairs and spare parts for Panasik - 22 pages (since 2007) and the problems are mainly - the saucepan was scratched or the hostess poured liquid without a saucepan ... How many multicooker boast such reliability ??? We need to talk about this, about the reliability of the service and the device itself, and not about obsolescence!
Morally outdated ... What? Appearance? But I'm a conservative and I like round saucepans! Again they will say that I am Panas PR ...
Vei
I just got used to the appearance of Panas, he is no longer so ugly to me, he has become cute
But the fact that it takes up a little space is a fact, it is more compact than cute brothers ...

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