Ukka
valushka-s , she herself is terribly upset with the situation with Pavos ...
I've been following Brand from the very first day, I read everything !!! Brand's themes, so to speak, a support group ... Of course, this situation is insulting!
valushka-s
Quote: ukka

valushka-s , she herself is terribly upset with the situation with Pavos ...
I've been following Brand from the very first day, I read everything !!! Brand's themes, so to speak, a support group ... Of course, this situation is insulting!

and I'm watching Deksik-60 (and 50 a little), my brother! Interestingly, I am mistaken that it is also discontinued for the same reason !? Was it produced at the same plant?
Ukka
Yes, Valyush, that's exactly why that at the same plant ...
Now Philips will get us this model for the price of two Panasonic ...
I am especially offended for Brand 6050, he revolutionized my brain! My daughter saw him at work, without hesitation - "Will you buy one for me? With a dowry!"
I'm looking forward to 6051, although I won't be able to buy something for another year and a half - a bachelor's degree from my daughter and then a diploma ... And I also got interested in the pressure cooker, then I'll give the 6050 to the father, and God willing, I'll buy a manun ...
Natalia K.
Quote: ukka


Now Philips will get us this model for the price of two Panasonic ...
Ol what model will Philips use for us?
Song
Quote: ukka

Now Philips will get us this model for the price of two Panasonic ...

It may very well be ....
Ukka
Natasha, if neither Dax nor Brand is allowed to make a very popular model, then soon expect this model called Phillips ... And we already know Phillips' pricing policy ...
Oca
Precisely because it was removed from production, I am in a hurry to "multiply" all doubting acquaintances with the 37501th model, prices are already growing up, we must hurry. Now I looked at my technique: half of it is out of production! Well, okay, but already bought for several years will be enough, and then it will be seen ... The 9220 air fryer is also removed, but for some reason a considerable part of the forum is now in a hurry to buy the remaining copies (Eh, if Brand did AF ...)
Song
Quote: ukka

I believe in Panasonic one big minus - expensive spare wheels.
Two - the price of the unit itself is inadequate. With all my love for Panasonic - the money that they ask for him, he is not worth it.
IRR
came and did not understand what has to do with the comparison of the brand (dex) and Panasonic, when Diatima came to choose from this.
Quote: Diatima


I registered on this site, they praised me Polaris PMC 0517AD, went to the section about it, they began to praise the Panasonic SR-TMJ181.

and then I went forest further and saw that before that she again came with the same question (and her manna sent her wherever it was) and again it was the same, that is, it was already on the second circle. It's just some kind of mysterious situation, so I refer to it
Diatima, expensive
just choose something yourself, and then show us, I swear, we will be glad to any option.

and by the way she was interested in the new Panasonic, which is with dumplings. so you are not asked who has an old-style panasik

how I said everything, I will not be more about the choice. I swear by my mom

today, today I will not ... if that let’s tomorrow mahatsa

IRR
Quote: Song *

This is not necessary!

oral idiomatic expression

Manna
Quote: Elena Bo

I also thought about it the other day.
Duc ... we must not think, but offer (to Vadim or Elena) ... We can, they will do
IRR
Quote: Elena Bo

I also thought about it the other day.
Quote: manna

Duc ... we must not think, but offer (to Vadim or Elena) ... We can, they will do

dopplet then she did so, and not even a year had passed, as they say, but everything has already
Ukka
Quote: Oca

Eh, if Brand did AF ...
If...
Lucy, forgive me, I'm sprinkling trochas ...
So I swore and swore that I would never buy an airfryer. Here Wasp made a discovery about the top of the airfryer and a simple stainless steel pan, so I thought hard! I will look for an airfryer with a broken flask, I already have a casserole ...
Vitaok
Ol, can I come to you shake it so to speak... I recently turned up, it is true, Dex50, without hesitation, immediately took it. They correctly write that there are no ideal MVs, but if there are several of them, then there is an idyll. Now the two MVs complement each other. If it were not for the joint in Skarlush with "hot", I would also recommend it to everyone, as I love her tenderly and tenderly.
IRR
Quote: vitaokstep

If not for the joint in Skarlush with "hot", then I would also recommend everyone,

Vika, what is your cant? turns off when frying? 400 do you have?

or is it just not there?
Vitaok
I have 411. I fried in it and it did not give any errors. And everywhere they write that it burned out in the "frying".
I like baked goods better in Scarlet. Only he cooks such delicious soups. I am now comparing with Dex50... Milk, well, how to say, when how, but it has never come out through the valve, only the lid has to be washed and then I repeat - not always.
Ukka
Quote: vitaokstep

Ol, can I come to you shake it so to speak... I recently turned up, it is true, Dex50, without hesitation, immediately took it. They correctly write that there are no ideal MVs, but if there are several of them, then there is an idyll. Now the two MVs complement each other.
Here I am talking about the same thing - you need a lot of cartoons and different ones, but good ones !!!
And congratulations !!!
IRR
Quote: vitaokstep

I have 411. I fried in it and it did not give any errors. And everywhere they write that it burned out on the "frying".

once again for those in the tank can you?

where do they write everywhere? I didn't understand, did it burn? I just have 400 and generally at a ridiculous price and I'm already mentally preparing for large and lush shoals, so I'm interested.
IRR
Quote: vitaokstep

In our theme "Scarlet 411", for example.

yeah, not yours, thank God ... but people just burn in large numbers and they write. Useful information on choosing, ATP

you just write in the past tense, and I thought that the tavos was tired of frying
Quote: vitaokstep

I have 411. I fried in it and it did not give out any errors. And everywhere they write that it burned out in the "frying".
Vitaok
Quote: IRR

yeah, not yours, thank God ... but people just burn in large numbers and they write
Yes, thank God not with me. Although I think maybe the hostesses themselves are to blame when they fried, for example, there is a little onion and the bowl did not fit snugly against the heating disc. I made this conclusion when I got Dex. There is a saucepan, hoo! In it, at least half the onion is fried, it stands tightly, but in Scarlet you need to press something down, and with the lid closed, it just turns off for me, without errors, it just doesn't fry and that's it.

Quote: IRR

you just write in the past tense, and I thought that the tavos was tired of frying

now my Dex is frying, so in the past tense
IRR
Quote: vitaokstep

There is a saucepan, hoo! IN

And by the way, I fell asleep in it, if you need it, you can try it, it fits very well.
Vitaok
Well that's why I threw myself at him, in spite of what is used. Plus I have a stainless steel for them.
Ukka
You are now a queen with such a tandem !!! Let them cook for your joy !!!
* Anyuta *
Tanyush is azaza, no need to refer to the Prus2 post ... in this thread I already wrote that I have the same as with Prus2 and Panas and Dex-60 ... I am writing for the second time this week: don't compare Panas and Dex's pastries ... Panas has baked goods incomparable with anything ..., and Dex is just a good multicooker with advanced, or rather, split functions ...

PySy ... and in general ... how can MV be bad? If she is an assistant, then company name doesn't matter ... IMHO ...
azaza
Quote: * Annie *

Tanyush - azaza, no need to refer to the Prus2 post ...

Sorry, Anyuta. And why does your opinion on the comparison of Panas and Dex have the right to life, while Prus does not? Why should I refer exclusively to you ?! Now I'm not about the merits of Panas or Dex, I'm now about the fact that someone's opinion should be more weighty than the opinion of another person. I strongly disagree with this.
* Anyuta *
And I'm not saying that you need to refer to SOMEONE ...just again, her post has already been cited as an example (just a couple of days ago) ... and the girl focused on, well, you see ... your Panas "crap ..."even those who have it ... so I write the same thing then and now ... DO NOT REFER TO SOMEONE ..... each MV is good in its own way ... each of them has advantages over each other in one or another function ... And each MV bond has its own advantages and disadvantages ... Show me at least ONEan ideal MB, having bought which I would not want to change or supplement with anything (another MB) ... yes there are NO such ...
And the question ...
Quote: azaza

I strongly disagree with this.

So what do you disagree with?
Song
Girls, dear, stop arguing and proving whose balls are cooler... Panas has long been like a red rag for ... those who like to argue. God bless him! Who loves him - to your health! Who does not love - has the right. And let everyone remain unconvinced, while we all live together and rejoice and cook in our different, different beloved mulechki!
azaza
If you take a closer look at my message, you can see that it is a response to a specific phrase by Oli-Yucca, in which she wanted to hear a comparison of Panas and Dex / Brand with those who have them. It would be more logical for you not to argue with me about the two quotations given, and add your opinion to them for a more complete comparative analysis of the two MVs.
And about the multicooker, after which I wouldn't want to buy another one, I have one. Dex-60 is called. I, of course, have not tried pastries from Panas, but the dex one more than suits me. At least it’s just as good as the much-praised Liberton baked goods.
But we in Dex already talked about the fact that each CF has its own character. My Dex in terms of baking is somewhat different from other Dex: it bakes faster than others, but not at the expense of quality. At least I'm happy. For the sake of fairness, I must say that I rarely bake, alas.
azaza
Quote: Song *

Girls, dear, stop arguing.
Personally, I'm far from arguing. I just don't like it when my comments are perverted to my own taste. And Panas or Dex / Brand - deeply violet to me. I am completely satisfied with what I have, the rest does not bother me. I didn't get into an argument about Panas and Dex / Brand. From Yukka's comments, I realized that she had missed the messages of Wasp and Prus, and repeated them personally for her. Now they tell me that I am in something wrong there.
lunova-moskalenko
Anyuta, I don’t know, my baking in Dex is going with a bang. For comparison, I can say that my first MV was and is Vesochka, then I bought Perfez 56 for my son, now we have all of them at work. So baking with a bang I have a current in Dex and Vesochka with an average bang. Recently, a biscuit was baked (in Dex) for a drunk cherry, so it was 11, 5 cm high. And this is the height of the current of a non-cake (semi-finished product). We ran with our son looking for a box to pack the finished cake later. Not found, I had to sacrifice a box from a steam engine and pack a cake there for departure.
Stafa
Quote: * Annie *

Show me though ONEan ideal MB, having bought which I would not want to change or supplement with anything (another MB) ... yes there are NO such ....: p
Anh, it's not worth it so categorically - I have enough Panas for everything why I bought it. In a little over a year, he replaced my stove almost completely. And I tried to find him a cartoon not with other functions - but just to cook smaller portions. I needed exactly the same, but the volumes are 2 times less. Not finding what I needed in the cartoons - I bought a slow-motion film - and lo and behold, it tastes better from it than from the multi, and for me it was a shock. But it tastes better for me and my family, and someone does not like stewed taste. And I finally tasted real baked milk (I remember the taste from childhood from the oven), neither Mozhaiskoye in the store in the USSR, nor from the multi did not suit me with taste. And from MDV it smelled like childhood. And all that is a clay pot with a regulator, there is a minimum of brains in it, but in cooking it turned out to be in favor. Slowly - yes, but HOW.
Taia
Your arguments lead me astray. I want a small multicooker. Now I have Dex.We have on sale from small ones - only Panasonic and, as I understood, at an affordable price. Not only do I wonder whether I really need a small slow cooker, or to trample, but then there are also disputes about Panas.
azaza
Quote: Taia

Not only do I wonder whether I really need a small slow cooker, or to trample, but then there are also disputes about Panas.
Taia, Panas is a good, time-tested cartoon. There is no dispute as such. The point is that Panas is not the only good MV, that's all. And if you need a small MV, there is practically no choice, here Panas definitely rules, especially at an affordable price. There was also a wonderful Liberton-baby, but alas - it was completely unjustifiably removed from production.
So the main thing is to decide whether you need a small MV or not.
Leska
Quote: * Annie *

Show me though ONEan ideal MB, having bought which I would not want to change or supplement with anything (another MB) ... yes there are NO such ...
There are such .
And we supplement it with another model more often to help the main and beloved one. If one is cooking soup or a side dish, then the other is at this time dessert, yogurt and so on, and the third is simmering milk or cooking jelly. Although, everyone chooses the ideal model for himself: for example, the frying function is not important to me, but cooking dairy and simple cereals (especially with a delay), soups, cooking yogurt and baking are the main programs that I need specifically and multicooker cope with them on 5+. If Scarlett did not fit me precisely by these parameters, she gave it up without regret into good hands to the one who is with her.
Stafa
Quote: Leska

If one is cooking soup or a side dish, then the other is at this time dessert, yogurt and so on, and the third is simmering milk or cooking jelly.
Some kind of conveyor
I sprinkle ashes on my head, cook every three days and that is, we get tired.
Oca
Wow, how much energy and free time when MV works for you in the kitchen, so many pages can be written. Already gave a short comparison 18 and 37501. I like both: the aggressive Brand and the quiet Panas. Yesterday they cooked soup and pilaf together, now they are boiling potatoes and baking a cake. Keeping these two multicooker in the house is like having a wooden stool and a soft chair - one does not negate the other ... yes, they are similar, they have 4 legs ... and you can sit on both of them (with different levels of comfort), but it is inconvenient to chop nuts on a chair, and there is nothing to hang an ironed shirt by the stool.
Impressed by stories about electric pressure cookers, I want her too! Despite the fact that there is a stove-top SV, which did not impress at all and is now gathering dust in the closet. Stafa, and where can I read about your slow model, maybe I will like it?
Stafa
In slows (in Russia, there are current kenwoods at the moment from those that the names are familiar, there is still some kind of aurora il somewhere and something else that looks like a spider). https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&board=454.0
Ukka
People, what are you arguing about ???
And Panas18 and Dax60 and Brand 37501 are very good multi !!!
What is the name of the topic? "Choosing a multicooker." A beginner asks which cartoon to choose - you answer - "Dax60 and Brand 37501". I do not deny that they are one of the most successful !!!
But - DEX 60 already in the afternoon with fire needs to be looked for, it seems that the remains are running out, and Brand 37501 and 6050 are also close to this ... Accordingly, spare parts ... And there is no need to keep silent about the exchange service for DEX, another adventure .. And if we advise Brand to buy, then from direct dealers, then there will be no problems with the service (our Brandovtsy are very responsive).

If we recommend these models, we MUST report it !!!


That's what I mean, not that Dax fu, and Panas - WOW !!!

Quote: azaza

From Yukka's comments, I realized that she had missed the messages of Wasp and Prus, and repeated them personally for her. Now they tell me that I am in something wrong there.

Tan, you misunderstood, I did not miss these messages ... But your answer was very appropriate for me. Both the opinion of Prus2 and the opinion of Anyuta and the opinion of Maria-Wasp have the right to life, because they have something to compare, both models have !!!
Lefon
Now I am facing the choice of the second multicooker (one already exists - Moulinex CE4000, a very good device for a large family, we are very pleased) and after reading a bunch of forums, watching YouTube, etc., I settled on 4 models - Moulinex Cook4Me CE 7011 , Oursson MP5005PSD, Cuckoo SMS-M1051F and Cuckoo CMC-HE1055F. Who had the opportunity to use at least a couple from this list, which one would you personally recommend to buy (the cost is not particularly important)?
Vei
Quote: Lefon

Now I am facing the choice of the second multicooker (one already exists - Moulinex CE4000, a very good device for a large family, we are very pleased) and after reading a bunch of forums, watching YouTube, etc., I settled on 4 models - Moulinex Cook4Me CE 7011 , Oursson MP5005PSD, Cuckoo SMS-M1051F and Cuckoo CMC-HE1055F. Who had the opportunity to use at least a couple from this list, which one would you personally recommend to buy (the cost is not particularly important)?
All of the CFs that you have listed are pressure cookers. Share what you are going to cook in it, for what purposes to use it, what exactly do you expect from your future assistant?
Lerele
And who sent a multicooker by mail? Do you think her brains are not shaking from shaking ???
If you wrote in the wrong topic, send me where you need to, pl.
IRR
Quote: Lerele

And who sent a multicooker by mail? Do you think her brains are not shaking from shaking ???
If you wrote in the wrong topic, send me where you need to, pl.
comes well, it is well packed at the factory, foam on all sides with notches. do not worry
Leska
Quote: Lerele

And who sent a multicooker by mail? Do you think her brains are not shaking from shaking ???
Our mail is definitely not possible: not only will the brains fly out, it will also get fractures. If you only use the transport company.
Ukka
Brand 6050 was sent to me by New Mail (a road carrier, and not the most reliable one). I drove like crystal (in the sense of a whole, not a bit).
Oca
Quote: Lerele

And who sent a multicooker by mail?
I received it by the transport company, but I would not dare to send it by the Russian Post, especially since I saw a video of unloading / loading at our main post office. Always wrinkled parcels arrive, recently a couple of broken ones came
Lerele
I decided to buy a small four-button Panasonic on vacation, my sister will buy it and send it, so I'm worried whether it will come or not.
Transport campaigns do not travel before us
Oca
Rina
Quote: Lerele

And who sent a multicooker by mail? Do you think her brains are not shaking from shaking ???
If you wrote in the wrong topic, send me where you need to, pl.
I know that girls from germany ordered multicooker on e-bay and amazon. Everything came without any problems (European mails work better than CIS ones).
Lerele
Yes, this one only has buttons, no screen. It is lightweight for a trip, we always rent a house by the sea, cook ourselves, that's what we needed.
Lefon
Quote: Vei

All of the CFs that you have listed are pressure cookers. Share what you are going to cook in it, for what purposes to use it, what exactly do you expect from your future assistant?
Now in Moulinex we cook hodgepodge and other soups, stewed potatoes with meat, poultry (in different ways), charlotte, but porridge is not obtained in it. I would like more porridge (including milk) that would work out normally, pamper yourself with more baked goods, second courses, and so on - to expand the range, so to speak. I like the food from the modest cooker. I have a family of 6 adults, and when I took Mulinex, it was practically the only 6-liter speed cooker in our market. Now the family has matured to the second apparatus, because the summer cottage season is on the nose. I am also interested in the delayed start function (for at least 12 hours, and not as in some models - 1.5 hours ... it doesn't matter that it is not there at all), since it is not in Moulinex.
Purely multicooker is not considered - they are not interesting to me. I choose only from quick-cookers.

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