Marpl
So I'm talking about the same thing - a normal simple MV, without any bells and whistles. Porridge never ran away from me, I put it to cook at night, in the morning my husband ate ready-made porridge. This MB is for those who are in no hurry. And I always needed everything quickly, that's why I bought SV first. And this little white one was bought for porridge. And when there was a share for little Redmond, I bought it too. In terms of pressing the buttons, it is not convenient, the buttons themselves are large, but the choice of modes - there is nothing to do without a magnifying glass. Therefore, for older people it will be more comfortable to use Panasonic, only 4 buttons.
walexyz
Quote: Sens
well, this is extremely strange, to buy a device for high-quality cooking of rice, which is not called a "rice cooker", not a mv "Panasonic 10/18" or "Hitachi" or other mvs with a touch mode "Rice", but a cartoon without time adjustment and temperature, and generally without settings ...
It is called a cartoon only in Russia, and in the rest of the world it is a rice cooker and original programs for rice, but for us only the labels have been changed. Read reviews on Amazon, if you understand in English, I read and brendabaker most likely, too, and read, but all this does not interfere with fooling around due to inexperience, pecking at a big name. Any Redmond is many times better than this Panas. And the porridge, by the way, is dull and tasteless, it turns out with a crust along the bottom. Strongly not recommend!
Marpl
walexyz, why be so upset - do not like it, we pass by. And the negative experience does not make one thing. If a person is very versed in various methods of cooking rice, then he should have immediately bought a normal rice cooker. Now the choice is huge, choose according to your taste and wallet. One unit cannot be liked by everyone, everyone has their own requirements. Most are happy with this MV, but you can look for the one that suits you specifically. But, unfortunately, there is still no limit to perfection and one particular MV cannot meet all requests. And you rely on only one person's feedback. They also write a lot on the fences, but you don't have to believe everything.
walexyz
Quote: Marpl
walexyz, why be so upset - do not like it, we pass by
What does it mean to pass by? Theme -
about the choice of multicooker. Everyone has the right to express what he thinks. Moreover, I am the owner of this misunderstanding!
Marpl
Probably not the owner anymore. Your words - I had one before registering here. And those who write their reviews here are the owners and still use it. And there is no such negative as yours. You didn’t like the equipment, sold it, bought a new one. Business something. But the negative is already the second page.
Sens
Quote: walexyz
... but all this does not prevent you from looting out of inexperience ...
now this is closer to reality ...

And you need to understand the specifics of the device ... which dishes the programs are set up for, and which ones are not tuned in !!! In Panasonic SR-DF101, you can't cook jellied meat, and you can't cook rice ... but there is much more, but you need to understand how to adapt the recipe to the program, to the heating mode and time. And for those for whom it is simple, everything works out great, SEE yourself !!! To a good cook - nothing gets in the way, like gritting !!!
walexyz
Quote: Sens
now this is closer to reality ...
You gradually move from discussing the device to the individual. For what? Look at recipes and messages brendabaker, and then start making generalizations about qualifications, and so on. Moreover, you have never had this multicooker!




Quote: Marpl
Probably no longer the owner
Lies on the mezzanine, if it is of principle
Sens
Quote: walexyz
especially since you never had this multicooker!
Why wasn't it? And now there is!
walexyz
Quote: Sens
turns off when it boils away?
Why are you asking this question? If you were the owner you would know the answer!
Sens
Quote: walexyz

Why are you asking this question? If you were the owner you would know the answer!
walexyz, I don't use it. They met me in Svyaznoy for 999 rubles, and I bought two for gifts. I gave one, the second is still, I only drove the modes with water in the bowl in order to measure the temperature, and that's it. But, I already have two mvs in use .... I just don't need to use it.
walexyz
Sens, well, then as follows, experience this miracle)))
Sens
Quote: walexyz

Sens, well, then as follows, experience this miracle)))
walexyz, I got now here THIS IS a miracle and must be experienced ...
walexyz
Sens, all the more it is necessary to experience at least in order to make sure that there is heaven and that there is earth))
Sens
Quote: walexyz

Sens, all the more it is necessary to experience at least in order to make sure that there is heaven and that there is earth))
so I said it right away! That the multicooker is all different and you need to understand the features of the device, for which dishes the programs are configured, and for which they are not. And here is Panasonic PANASONIC SR-DF101 - it is not for rice, and not for jellied meat. He has peculiar programs, but experience allows him to come up with the necessary cooking algorithm. I'm not talking about myself ...) And then everything is perfectly prepared. Like Meisinen.

Here I have no experience of pressure cooking programs, and I do not know how to approach this Element ... it takes a lot of evil ... but this does not mean that this MV is bad. You just need to study and understand ...

walexyz, and what dishes do you need?
Lerele
Quote: Sens

turns off when it boils away?

Lereleyou cook pasta like here ? )))

I cook pasta like this, put the pasta, salt it, put a little oil, you don't have to, but I like it with a little butter, pour boiling water, stir and that's it .. steam program. It turns out quickly enough, faster than cooking pasta on the stove.
It works until it boils over.
I also cook rice. I get it rice to grain. Also buckwheat.
I even have a recipe for macaroni
Choosing a slow cooker, pressure cooker, rice cooker (2)Cheese pasta
(Lerele)


walexyz, apparently you expected that this baby would do everything like a full-fledged multicooker, so you have a negative.
I already wrote that this is the simplest cartoon, for the simplest dishes, such as soup, porridge and stewing.
I first bought it for my mother-in-law, because she began to forget food on the stove, then for herself.

Yes, she is not fast, yes, the programs are long, this is not a full-fledged cartoon, but for the elderly and not friendly with technology, this is the very thing.
Elena Gar
Quote: Marpl
for old people who are not friendly with technology, I highly recommend a Panasonic with 4 buttons
I will support this point of view. I had one too. Slow, yes, but the pastries are good in it, and the soup and porridge. I stewed dolma on the "soup", it was very tasty. But it was inconvenient for me to cook milk porridge on it, for a long time, but with a delay we don't like rice, especially since I have 20 multicooker, and I cook porridge in a small radish, it turns out wonderfully. I gave it to my old 90-year-old father-in-law, he is half-blind, but constantly cooks porridge and cereal side dishes in it. The good news is that you don't need to look at anything on the display, pushed the button and wait.
Lerele
Elena Gar, so I'm talking about the same, poured milk, put the cereal, pressed the button and sleep, rest. Even if you forgot to turn it off, nothing will burn. Buttons with pictures, you cannot confuse them, are large, comfortable, no need to bend over.
Mandraik Ludmila
Thank you girl, my pensioner is still a small cartoon for 3 liters, I talked with her what she specifically wants from multi - after all, it's better than 5 liters, I'm considering a Redmond rmc 4500 here, she has a control panel on top, it seems to me more convenient, no need to bend over look
Irgata
Quote: Lerele
Yes, she is not fast, yes, the programs are long, this is not a full-fledged cartoon, but for the elderly and not friendly with technology, this is the very thing.
my mom is 86, 4 g with this Panasik, with 101, normal, I'm calmer too - she won't mix anything up, and she's fine, or even 5 years old, yeah
Quote: Lerele
On a steam program, I cook rice and pasta, it turns out gorgeous.

Lerele
Irsha, and that's what we are talking about, they asked for pensioners, that's what I advised.
And I myself am very pleased with her, but I did not expect from her that she would do something special to me, but it turned out that she was more adaptable than others.
My mother-in-law also stewed soup, porridge, and meat in it, she was happy, and we were calmer that nothing would burn on the stove. And she was 88 too.
Irgata
Quote: walexyz
Moreover, I am the owner of this misunderstanding!
you will be 80 years old and your children and you will appreciate the charm of this simple cartoon
walexyz
Quote: Irsha
you will be 80 years old and your children and you will appreciate the charm of this simple cartoon
Irsha, Best praise)). You have to fall into senile insanity to appreciate the thing)).
The original programs before the cunning panoramic managers re-pasted the inscriptions for Russia were: steam / quick cooking, white rice, brown rice, soup / porridge. Not a rice cooker at all)).
Rick
Quote: walexyz
Irsha, Best praise)). You have to fall into senile insanity to appreciate the thing)).
Hmm ... Wow ... to offend half the forum with one phrase ...
walexyz
Rick, I wrote about myself if that)) there is room to grow))
Rick
I wonder at what age they think that senile insanity is "there is room to grow"
Tanyulya
Quote: walexyz

Rick, I wrote about myself if that)) there is room to grow))
Zhenya, well, that's for sure, a senile nag
I'm sorry dear, I ran past and could not restrain myself
anavi
Quote: walexyz
You have to fall into senile insanity to appreciate a thing
Nooo, why did you decide that people at 80 have senile insanity? I think they will be even stronger in your mind!
walexyz
Rick, do you want to discuss me or multicooker? The multicooker is poor, low-power with confused programs, without an excellent start, without turning off the heating, milk porridge on "white rice" turns out badly, soup with cabbage in one cycle of 1h20min will not cook, a puddle remains on top in the middle of the baking, etc., etc. I hope it is clear))
Irgata
Quote: walexyz
You have to fall into senile insanity to appreciate a thing
or you are already 86 and you think so clearly at this time, and then you or you are up to 40 and you still don’t believe in senile extinction of body functions.

I think we should stop arguing - walexyz has its own strong opinion. well, okay, this is his experience
Lerele
And in my "marasmus" I like this cartoon, I get porridge and soup.
I don’t bake in it, but I cook everything I need.
So what can my pens grow from?




I would like to emphasize once again that in this cartoon it is difficult, with frying, reducing the time and temperature, it will not work.
But her soup and porridge programs are normal, the steam works before evaporation, which makes it possible to cook both cereals and pasta.
Of course, it will not work like in a large multitask with functionality, but what it turns out will be enough for everyday simple cooking.
Marpl
Girls, come on, you prove anything to this walexyz. She has such an experience, and we have another. And it is not necessary to prove anything to her, it is better to spend this time on our families, and not on empty writings. The arms must grow out of the right place and the head must work properly.
walexyz
Marpl, thanks for the gender change. I appreciated. ))

Well, in order not to be offtopic, I will also say that this supermulti does not have a sound signal and the inner cover cannot be removed. So the oatmeal that had baked and crawled out of all the cracks had to be torn off with your teeth if you gape even a little. It is something! I think retirees with weakened cognitive functions will be in seventh heaven with happiness from such a gift!
Marpl
One should not expect miracles from this MV, but she cooks simple elementary dishes normally, so that you do not write here. By the way, my porridge did not run away from any of the MVs. And you are one of those people who want a canary for a penny to sing and not eat.
Irgata
Quote: walexyz
I think retirees with weakened cognitive functions will be in seventh heaven with happiness from such a gift!
About "inadequate" pensioners - my mother, who, in principle, is against all current electrical appliances, and always cooked in pots and pans on the stoves (wood-burning stove, electric, and gas stove since 1971) in this calm and easy-to-operate multicooker once no milk porridge escaped. And the soup didn't run away. And grandmother doesn't need to - cook porridge and soup, stew potatoes with meat, I taught her how to cook macaroni, she loves pasta in a navy way. And the main thing for my grandmother - she pressed the button and that was all, offered her Panasa10 - No, I don’t want to, I don’t really see, there are some "programs" there, I don’t understand them. But this silent Panasonechka accepted and understood.And my decision to buy a multicooker for my mother was dictated precisely by senile forgetfulness, after 80 years it already occurs for everyone, and even after 50 it sometimes happens

It is possible that our stubbornly dissatisfied walexyz the slow cooker is not of high quality - after all, Panasonic 101, 10 and 18 are famous for their not hot temperatures, it is difficult to overcook something in them, or get the lid dirty. But, of course, you need to understand the principles of cooking products, or even in any dishware you will catch porridge and soups and remove the burns from the pans.

And, most importantly, if a person has insanity, and all sorts of "dissonances" there, then he will not be able to cook in any dish, such a patient needs service.
Zena
Quote: Marpl
And on Avito there is now Shteba DD2 ECO for 3500r.
thank you so much for the link and for the idea ..
My girlfriend bought the shtebochka, today we will decide with the shopping mall .. there was not enough data to order yesterday ..
as well as getting on AVITO, I began to look at offers from other sellers and eventually bought a used Panasik 18 like mine ..
though in St. Petersburg .. I couldn't find it any closer .. now I'm waiting for my girlfriend to send it to me ..





Quote: Marpl
I have a Vitesse pressure cooker.
Quote: Marpl
I also have MV Vitesse
thanks for responding .. I will keep in mind for the future .. maybe a little later I'll take all the same 590 model to work ..




Mandraik Ludmila, Lud and b \ y on Avito panska 18 do not want? unpretentious to impossible ... there are still offers and not expensive

Quote: walexyz
You have to fall into senile insanity to appreciate the thing)).
yeah ...
it is good if you keep your sharp mind up to 100 years old ..
my mother-in-law is 75, my mother is 68 ... it seems that age is still not an old person ... but I see, I watch them .. that they seem to be trying to control themselves, otherwise their hands no longer hold the mug and drop, then they forget something cooking on a gas stove ...
but we all think that we will be the same in old age ... only our face will be covered with wrinkles ..

Mandraik Ludmila
Girls, I already wrote that I will still be guided by Redmond, model 4500, for me the same simple, in terms of capabilities and volume it will be sufficient. Thanks for the advice
Sedne
Quote: Zena
otherwise the hands no longer hold the mug and drop, then they forget something that is being prepared on the gas stove ...
It seems to me even less, but I either drop the mug, then I forget something on the stove, I forgot my mistake, now with the multicooker this problem has somehow disappeared by itself.
Marfusha81
Quote: Zena

thank you so much for the link and for the idea ..
My girlfriend bought the shtebochka, today we will decide with the shopping mall .. there was not enough data to order yesterday ..
as well as getting on AVITO, I began to look at offers from other sellers and eventually bought a used Panasik 18 like mine ..
though in St. Petersburg .. I couldn't find it any closer .. now I'm waiting for my girlfriend to send it to me ..
Please write down which TC you could send.
I liked little Toshiba in Tuapse, but I couldn't figure out how to send her to St. Petersburg or at least to Sochi.
What I find is either expensive, or there is no representative office of the carrier in Tuapse.
Wildebeest
In Techport, on order, you can buy babies: Panas10 ~ 2400, Rediki 01 and 02.
Zena
Quote: Marfusha81
Please write down which TC you could send.
Business Line..

this is only by them .. they sent me a cache from Moscow .. in this shopping center they offer a wooden box and the "Fragile" service ..
everything went fine ..
I am also captivated by the fact that this company works like Carlo's dad .. seven days a week and 24 hours a day .. although we are not a large city .. but we suffer from traffic jams .. we are waiting for when it will be 11 or 12 nights and forward on empty roads .. without a queue you get and back the same way ... yes, more expensive than Energy ... but I would entrust the equipment only to them ..

Marfusha81
Quote: Wildebeest

In Techport, on order, you can buy babies: Panas10 ~ 2400, Rediki 01 and 02.
They called me and said there was nothing. Have you checked or just saw it on the website?
Marpl
This little thing is nowhere to be found. And where it is (on the site), the price is about 7 tr.

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Wildebeest
Marfusha81, I just saw it on the site.And the matter of verification is the business of those in need.
What are they? Is it difficult to remove? No, they write "to order".
Marfusha81
Quote: Wildebeest

Marfusha81, I just saw it on the site. And the matter of verification is the business of those in need.
What are they? Is it difficult to remove? No, they write "to order".
They call and suggest Redmond is big. Maybe this is the calculation
Mandraik Ludmila
That's just on January 6, I bought a Redik-01, on Avita, for 2.5tyr, I bought my first Redic-01 for 2tyr.
Wildebeest
Mandraik LudmilaWhere did the first 01 go?
Marfusha81
Marpl, so the item is big and more expensive than 10 thousand, or I'm not looking at it.
And I need a little Panasonic for porridge.
Mandraik Ludmila
It hasn't gone anywhere, thank God it works honestly, it's just that my husband fell in love with him so much that he ordered to buy a second one, shob bulo
Wildebeest
Mandraik Ludmila, understandably. I thought that, out of your kindness, you gave him into good hands, and now I am in a vain search.
Mandraik Ludmila
No, my husband has mastered redia and while I am in town with my son, he actively uses it, and it turned out that he loves completely different porridges than I did. He had rice with curry, barley with babaris and lard, and I would have rolled oats on milk, but we have a consensus on buckwheat. I first bought a second bowl, so it turned out to be not enough, my husband wanted another cartoon

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