azaza
And I carry it right in my native stand with handles, it's more convenient and not scary at all. I even rinse in it (in the stand). And at first, she also shook every time she dragged the bowl separately. Everything has become easier now.
kirch
I will share my experience on cooking in a pan. We got hooked on barbecue. I cooked all the time, pouring water, and today I decided to try it without water, after all, it gives the effect of a double boiler. She put foil on the bottom. Girls, it tastes better without water. First, there was a kebab smell (this was not the case with water). The meat turned out juicy (I was afraid it would be dry without water). It was very vkuuus. Of course, it also depends on meat. It is better to take a fatter neck. The fat is very tasty. In general, I am more and more satisfied. At first I was upset that I didn’t understand and bought not enameled one, but now I calmed down. By the way, we also have an electric shashlik maker. But we very rarely used it, it was very dreary: get it, then wash it.
Vredina_07
Quote: kirch

I will share my experience on cooking in a pan. We got hooked on barbecue. I cooked all the time, pouring water, and today I decided to try it without water, after all, it gives the effect of a double boiler. She put foil on the bottom. Girls, it tastes better without water. First, there was a barbecue smell (this was not the case with water). The meat turned out juicy (I was afraid it would be dry without water). It was very vkuuus. Of course, it also depends on meat. It is better to take a fatter neck. The fat is very tasty. In general, I am more and more satisfied. At first I was upset that I did not understand and bought not enamel, but now I calmed down. By the way, we also have an electric shashlik maker. But we rarely used it, it was very dreary: to get it, then wash it.

By the way, there are more cooking possibilities in a Teflon frying pan, you can bake various casseroles, pies ... in the oven on it, but you cannot put an enameled pan in the oven. Therefore, each coating has its own pros and cons.
nimart
Quote: Vredina_07

, and enamelled ones cannot be put in the oven. Therefore, each coating has its own pros and cons.
why not in the oven?
Tillotama
Quote: Vredina_07

By the way, there are more cooking possibilities in a Teflon frying pan, you can bake various casseroles, pies ... in the oven on it, but you cannot put an enameled pan in the oven. Therefore, each coating has its own pros and cons.

it is not teflon. This is a heat resistant coating, do not think that it is a nonstick.
IMHO it is very thin to put the mold in the oven.
in general, I think that every thing is intended for its intended use.
you can of course also bake a pie or casserole in an enamel bowl or a very thin heat-resistant dish
but it will be much more convenient and tasty in the dishes intended for this.
Vredina_07
Quote: nimart

why not in the oven?

The enamel will crack from the heat.

Quote: Tillotama

it is not teflon. This is a heat resistant coating, do not think that it is a nonstick.
IMHO it is very thin to put the mold in the oven.
generally I think that every thing is intended for its intended use.
you can of course also bake a pie or casserole in an enamel bowl or a very thin heat-resistant dish
but it will be much more convenient and tastier in the dishes intended for this.

I have not used a heat-resistant one, but I communicate with girls from Russia and they quite often bake all sorts of goodies on it in the oven, and in principle everything is fine.
Tillotama
I have a lot of different dishes, I just know how it turns out in a thick and thin in the oven
but with skillful hands miracles can be done on the knee, in principle
tanatoza
Girls!!!!!!!!!! Or maybe someone knows where such a miracle can be purchased in Moscow? I found it on an Internet only in Belgorod
celfh
Here, today I received from Tillotama

Frying pan Miracle Grill-gas (reviews)

True, I will not try today, and not even the day after tomorrow, somewhere after Easter
kolenko
Alyona!
It says on the top what is used for a regular gas stove burner. And where about the electric stove? I do not supply
Price, yeah. And the weight is 19.6 kg (even if the whole package)
Tillotama
Quote: lesik_l

Girls, but what appeared in Ukraine and they say can be used on electric ovens. True, the infection is expensive.
The principle is the same, but the bottom is closed (well, I understand that)

Unfortunately, nothing works with the picture, so look at the address

a little later I will have an enameled version without a hole inside, a bowl with a grate
but it is supposed to pour coals there and use it as a brazier

IMHO on the electric stove the bottom will still burn or you will have to pour water, and then the effect is not the same at all ...
lesik_l
Quote: kolenko

And where about the electric stove?

Yes, I saw an advertisement, well, this one: One does a girl next to her with an open mouth and endless ahs. That's where they said about electric stoves. And here I just shared information.
In this saucepan, I realized that there is an additional level inside for collecting fat, that is, fat and juices do not drip to the bottom. Therefore, you can put it on an electric stove. But my IMHO - if an electric stove is better to buy a normal rokletnitsa-grill, everything is already thought out for grilling.
celfh
Today I used a frying pan for the first time. Fried German sausages. Liked!
Frying pan Miracle Grill-gas (reviews)
Chiaroscuro
Please reveal a secret! How can you pluck juicy meat in this frying pan? I pour water on the bottom, and the fire is below average, and put the marinated meat in the middle. It still turns out dry and uncooked, and if you overdo it, you get coals. Honestly, I regret this purchase.
celfh
I don't know what the secret is, but I put the foil on the bottom, closed the lid, the fire was above average at first, and when the pan warmed up, I made it below average. I opened the lid once, because I had no idea what was going on inside. All
kirch
We constantly make shashlik from the neck. First I poured water, and now I put the foil. I like it more. Marinate in onions and kiwi. The meat is very soft.
Tillotama
Quote: Chiaroscuro

Please reveal a secret! How can you pluck juicy meat in this frying pan? I pour water on the bottom, and the fire is below average, and put the marinated meat in the middle. It still turns out dry and uncooked, and if you overdo it, you get coals. Honestly, I regret this purchase.

do you have enamel or heat resistant coating?
Chiaroscuro
Quote: Tillotama

do you have enamel or heat resistant coating?
enamel, bought from Tillotama
Tillotama
Quote: Chiaroscuro

enamel, bought from Tillotama

why did you pour water there?
try without water on a below average heat
and do not open the lid for 20-30 minutes
Chiaroscuro
Yes, without water, too, everything turns out dry. I'll try not to open the lid. Otherwise, I open it and check it every 10 minutes.
celfh
I think if you open it often, the temperature will be low, and as a result, the product is raw ... but dry? can you cut it thinly or keep it on fire for a long time?
Tillotama
Quote: Chiaroscuro

Yes, without water, too, everything turns out dry. I'll try not to open the lid. Otherwise, I open it and check it every 10 minutes.

no need to open the lid, you release all the heat
be sure to marinate the meat before cooking
and what grade do you take and what exactly did you cook?
Chiaroscuro
regular pork, chicken legs. Apparently I'm really doing something wrong, the girls look really juicy. And I have delicious (especially kebab) but dry, although marinated in a marinator, or it burns out.
Tillotama
Quote: Chiaroscuro

regular pork, chicken legs. Apparently I'm really doing something wrong, the girls look really juicy. And I have delicious (especially kebab) but dry, although marinated in a marinator, or it burns out.

make the heat less than medium and do not open the lid for half an hour.
elen13
Can you tell me where you can buy such a frying pan in Minsk?
nimart
Frying pan Miracle Grill-gas (reviews)
Frying pan Miracle Grill-gas (reviews)

Made Oatmeal Stripes from Mistletoe
slait
Quote: nimart

Frying pan Miracle Grill-gas (reviews)
Frying pan Miracle Grill-gas (reviews)

Made Oatmeal Stripes from Mistletoe
good evening)
can I have a recipe?
CRALKA
Quote: celfh

I think if you open it often, the temperature will be low, and as a result, the product is raw ... but dry? can you cut it thinly or keep it on fire for a long time?
but you can ask ... but does not bother the owners that the products are fried on gas, is it harmful or I don’t understand how it works? Explain please .. if not difficult
Tillotama
Quote: KRALKA

but you can ask ... but does not bother the owners that the products are fried on gas, is it harmful or I don’t understand how it works? Explain please .. if not difficult

the fire does not touch the food, it only heats the air inside the pan. the metal of the lid is also heated, food is baked from the heat.
nimart
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=163994.0
divided several times
optimal, since the recipe contains one rate, then apples are baked better and tastier
cut out two half rings from parchment, cut off on both sides, so that it did not fit close to either the lid or the central hole
baked on low heat for 30 minutes, nothing on the pallet, foil can
if after 30 minutes it is not very golden, then you can turn it over, carefully remove the paper and bake for 10 minutes, the stripes will no longer fall apart
1.5 norms, in my opinion, is worse, the layer is thicker, it takes longer to bake and the taste is worse than when you make one norm

children really liked
Good luck !!!
Keti
Chicken wings are very tasty (cut into pieces at the joints). Only beforehand I insist overnight (or even almost a day) in tomato + seasonings. Mayonnaise is not worth adding - it burns. Foil to the bottom and over medium heat
Marfa Vasilievna
Seduced by the stock, I almost decided to buy, but vague doubts torment me about how it fits on my stove, of such an intricate design
Frying pan Miracle Grill-gas (reviews)
Tillotama
Quote: Martha Vasilievna

Seduced by the stock, I almost decided to buy, but vague doubts torment me about how it fits on my stove, of such an intricate design
Frying pan Miracle Grill-gas (reviews)

with you she can only stand on the side burners
the distance to the wall will not allow on the back, on the front - I'm afraid the handles may heat
check that nothing gets in the way from the sides, because it has a fairly large diameter of 32cm
Marfa Vasilievna
Hmm ... The side ones are big and very large ... And they recommend the middle one (it is in front, and the handles will really interfere ... measured). But on the back, small, it should fit. You can turn on the fire to the maximum, right? Or is it still preferable to medium with medium heat? What a bad luck
Lyalya Toy
Girls,but tell me, please, where can you buy such a frying pan in Moscow? Who has already bought?
lesik_l
Quote: Martha Vasilievna

Or is it still preferable to medium with medium heat? What a bad luck

In my opinion, the most suitable is the left middle. The right one is too large - you will heat the bottom, and the small one will not give a normal temperature, everything will dry, and not fry.

Quote: Lala Toy

Girls,but tell me, please, where can you buy such a frying pan in Moscow? Who has already bought?

So Tillotama has, turn to her
makabusha
Quote: Martha Vasilievna

Seduced by the stock, I almost decided to buy, but vague doubts torment me about how it fits on my stove, of such an intricate design
Frying pan Miracle Grill-gas (reviews)

I have a stove of this design and such a frying pan. You can put it only behind the back or only on the front burner, and the wall really interferes with the back, the frying pan itself is slightly crooked and a little heated. On the front it is shaky, you need to carefully remove the cover so that the whole structure falls off. I still had a fall once. In general, you need to be careful. I love the frying pan, and I do not refuse it, but of course the burners could be more comfortable.
lesik_l
Quote: makabusha

You can only put on the rear or only on the front burner

Natasha, why can't you use the side ones?
makabusha
the side ones are very large .. the flame does not get into the pan at all ..
makabusha
If it's still relevant .. I can take pictures ... closer to the weekend ..
Tillotama
Quote: Lala Toy

Girls, I got it !!!!
Julia Thank you HUGE !!!
Now I'm running off to buy chickens and fry.
Question! Do you need to pour water to the bottom or not?

you are welcome!
You do not need to add water to your grill. With an enamel coating, everything works out with a bang. The fire is slightly less than average and do not open the lid for 20 minutes.
Lyalya Toy
Girls! I'm with a report.
bought chicken legs, marinated in a marinator for 2 cycles of 9 min.
Marinade "Universal" and soy sauce.
🔗
After 35 min. got the following result.
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There was also a potato, but hungry relatives did not allow to capture the result.
They burst, rattle with spoons, smack their lips and grunt with pleasure
Marfa Vasilievna
Lenochka, wonderful chickens turned out

Quote: lesik_l

Better with mushrooms, they are so wonderful.
Can you share the recipe?
celfh
Quote: Lala Toy

After 35 min. got the following result.
Beautiful legs!
Lyalya, it is very convenient to cover the bottom with foil - I removed the foil, the bottom is clean! well, juice collects on the foil, it does not burn, you can pour the meat with it
iris @
girls, tell the beginner to marinate the meat in the marinade. or can you just anoint with mayonnaise, for example, chicken, and marinate the meat like a shish kebab? And also tell me is there a topic with recipes here? : girl_red: thanks for the tips
celfh
And also tell me is there a topic with recipes here?
everything somehow does not work to open a separate topic with recipes for this frying pan, all the recipes are posted here.
I marinate the meat, but the chicken, I think, can just be made with mayonnaise
iris @
girls, do you need to marinate sausages to fry them or not?
nimart
Quote: iris @

girls, do you need to marinate sausages to fry them or not?
you need to proceed from the fact that our frying pan needs products that are fatter and fatter, that is, try to fry min7-10 without skin and try, then you can turn it over and add-spread what you want
put together a hot cheese sandwich, for example,
Lyalya Toy
Today I cooked sausages with cheese and bacon.
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After 15 minutes. the cheese leaked out a little.
🔗
Bon Appetit!
🔗
Taia
Today my frying pan passed its second test. She fried a barbecue in it. ... It turned out superb, I didn't even expect such a great result. It was very juicy, fried, only a little smoke from the fire was missing. On the street today, it rains almost all day, and we were looking out the window at the bad weather, killing the kebab. Only because of such an opportunity to fry a kebab without effort, I would buy a frying pan again. They are not expensive with us.

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