sazalexter
Kolodkina The temperature in the SE11 mode is not adjustable, you can turn it on again as much as you like.
In sourdough THERE IS yeast, read more about this above and on adjacent branches.
Alexa13
Quote: zaharich

I'm at a loss.

Quote: sazalexter

zaharich Everything is clearly confused in your head.



I especially liked:
many require a separate SOUND ISOLATED room

they say the viewing windows float
What kind of "miracle stoves" are that ?! which make noise like an airliner taking off, and their "windows" also melt
zaharich
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Kolodkina
In sourdough THERE IS yeast, read more about this above and on adjacent branches.

Yeast to yeast - discord, some, in fact, GMO, others - NATURAL ...
Although this is secondary for me now ... Primarily - the choice of HP ...
Kolodkina
You can use it as an oven, in the sense that I want to put my starter culture and set the temperature to 28 degrees so that it suits me. If possible, how can the temperature be determined, because there is no display, only with the help of a special thermometer.
sazalexter
Kolodkina Oven from 60 * С. Alas
sazalexter
zaharich Again, for yours, I ask you not to spread pseudoscientific nonsense on the forum!
zaharich
Quote: Kolodkina

You can use it as an oven, in the sense that I want to put my starter culture and set the temperature to 28 degrees so that it suits me. If possible, how can the temperature be determined, because there is no display, only with the help of a special thermometer.
In the end, the sourdough can also be used in a water bath. To maintain the required water temperature, you can use an electric thermostat-heater for, for example. aquariums. Why buy an almost unnecessary thing for 10 tyrov in a house where there is already a stove?
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Quote: sazalexter

Oven from 60 * С. Alas

Alexander, for me, for example, a thermostat in a built-in oven starts from 50 * C. But in the average (slightly larger) position from 0 to 50 degrees, it is already starting to work. Somewhere it gives out 25-30 * C. just the proofing temperature. Doesn't it work like that?
Kolodkina
Great with many thanks to zaharich. I just broke my head, what should I do. It's great that there is such a site and people who are ready to give good advice. Thanks again.
sazalexter
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @ I did not turn it on in this mode, I do not need anyone ... there will be time, I will check
zaharich
Quote: sazalexter

Ksyushk @ -Plushk @ I did not turn it on in this mode, I do not need anyone ... there will be time, I will check
And what to check, the fish are not a forum, they do not need yeast, they eat it ...
When you study a person as a living, extremely versatile huge bio-physical-quantum genius mechanism, etc., you begin to understand that the truth is somewhere nearby, but is it true ?! ...
Dollicat
Tell me, did anyone bake charlotte in the oven? My top is on fire, everything is damp inside ... Maybe I choose the wrong mode?
sazalexter
Dollicat Today my wife baked, and yesterday, 190 * C, the lower grate is 2 tena, 30-35 minutes, Teflon form. Everything is just amazing. Maybe a lot of filling?
Dollicat
Quote: sazalexter

Dollicat Today my wife baked, and yesterday, 190 * C, the lower grate is 2 tena, 30-35 minutes, Teflon form. Everything is just amazing. Maybe a lot of filling?
Just an oven mode?
Perhaps the shape is very tall and narrow.
sazalexter
Dollicat Simple oven mode
Dollicat
Thank you. Tomorrow will be take two
sazalexter
Dollicat The shape is round, high, with a wavy edge.
Elena74
I'm thinking of a similar stove. I read the topic. The function of making cakes is very interesting. Does the oven knead everything by itself or does it just bake these cakes? If kneading, then what kind of dough: biscuits, cake? Are the recipes included, or will you knead what you put in? how does it taste like?
Rina's boat
Greetings. I am renovating my apartment and decided to give up the usual gas oven. And I want to buy this wonderful oven DeLonghi EOB 2071. Tell me how it will turn out not bread / boulders but ordinary broilers, fish, meat, casseroles and cakes / cookies? Or in case there are some other stoves, then advise which ones ...I never came across bread and never baked it, but I really liked this stove and after reading the forum on it, I decided if I buy and try to bake bread in it.
sazalexter
Elena74 Alas, the oven itself does not know how to bake cakes. He bakes only bread on the machine, you can also try to bake a cake. We don't bake cakes or muffins in it. Only pies and pies like in the oven.
Elena74
And how do you bake a charlotte, as in the oven, or does she knead it herself?
sazalexter
Rina's boat The whole chicken will not go into the oven, only the chicken. Fish, meat, casseroles are simply amazing. We don't bake cakes. The pies are great
sazalexter
Elena74 Knead the charlotte dough in the Bosch MUM 5 combine, bake it like in a simple oven. If you try to do it on the machine in HP, apples will turn into puree
kotyuchok
First of all, I want to thank all the forum participants, thanks to you I also decided to buy such a device, before that there was only a Soviet gas stove with an oven, which I do not like to use, there is no thermometer in it, so the temperature had to be guessed and the result was not always successful

Yesterday they brought the oven and, of course, you need to try it right away, baked a cake closer to midnight, and this morning, a curd casserole, and then pizza, walk around like that, since there was no HP before, it was a miracle for me that the cooking process is to fill in the food , turn on the program and EVERYTHING! then everything kneads by itself, the dough grows and when the dough is ready for cutting, the oven informs. For me, it was a sincere surprise that the dough worked out in principle (the recipe is from a book, next time I will adapt my working recipe, since I didn’t really like the taste), I got used to work with the dough with my hands and feel when to add something, how much to knead, and here I measured it by the scales and it is ready, sincere surprise, sorry for the many words

I didn't like the pizza and would like to know if someone has the same problem and how to solve it. I made dough for 2 cakes, the first one baked in pizza mode. the baking time by the program was set to 30 minutes, 10 minutes before the end, she herself interrupted the process, since the top began to burn, the second cake in the oven mode was convection for 20 ° C for 20 minutes, and so the second cake rose better during baking and baked as needed. Is it only to knead in pizza mode?
sazalexter
kotyuchok I don't use the pizza program, so I can't say anything about it. For baking I use the "oven" mode and we eat pizza mainly in an Italian restaurant
kotyuchok
sazalexter, as I understand you, these Italian pizzerias are just a misfortune, we have opened a chain of restaurants, they declare the most Italian of Italian pizzas, but there really is a principle of baking in the oven, the cake turns out like lavash, at home it will not be possible to reproduce this, so this is our favorite place, but homemade pizza for friday night is going with a bang
sazalexter
kotyuchok You will laugh, but I ate real pizza in Rome only in one pizzeria, I also found delicious pasta in only one cafe. What is prepared in our restaurant is much closer to my taste and is not adapted for Russo-tourist (C) as in Rome
kotyuchok
sazalexter, tell me, when you bake in the oven, do you humidify? what is the question, I was baking pies yesterday and it feels like they were dry, my dough is really fresh, with not a lot of yeast and I was baking in convection mode, maybe this is the reason, now I am thinking about making the first bread and now I think it is necessary somehow add a couple of extra

and about convection, if possible, write a few words, do you use it? and when?
sazalexter
kotyuchok We bake pies, according to the classic yeast technology, which has probably been for more than a hundred years.
With or without convection. No moisture. Convection really dries, so it's better without it. Although bread in AU 8 mode is baked with convection.
kotyuchok
Thank you, I decided to bake focaccia tomorrow, I'll tell you about my successes (and not very much)

I read the topic 2 times before buying the oven, I'll go through it again, now with an understanding of the essence of what is happening
kotyuchok
I report on bread, made according to the recipe https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=175287.0, I took 1/4 portions, since, firstly, not bread-eaters, and secondly, this is the first bread and with yeast dough I have little experience, of course I really wanted it to work, but as a result I was not sure

I liked the process, the dough was kneaded in HP mode on SE10, fit on SE11, and baked in oven mode, a few photos in the process and the result
Mini oven-bread maker DeLonghi EOB 2071 Mini oven-bread maker DeLonghi EOB 2071 Mini oven-bread maker DeLonghi EOB 2071

As a result, the loaf was smashed together in two passes with tea and currant jam, in general, for those who decide to buy or not, there is one big drawback - you will bake a lot and often, which is fraught with a joke, but the baking process is greatly simplified - this is a fact
sazalexter
kotyuchok Excellent bread turned out With the initiative of you
kotyuchok
Thank you, sazalexter, herself satisfied, like an elephant, in a gas oven I would never have dared to bake bread, it seemed to me that it was super difficult to bake bread and is accessible only to very experienced craftsmen, it's good that such a technique appears that makes cooking easier
Catwoman
Well, you can't! Looking at your bread and tempting to buy this oven.
kotyuchok
Catwoman, thanks for the assessment, decide whether to buy or not, of course, for me it was a 50% whim, 50 a necessity, of course it would have been possible to go further with an old gas stove and hands, but I wanted comfort in cooking, less time standing in the kitchen and a more predictable result, since baking in a gas oven has always been a surprise for me, even proven recipes were obtained every other time, of course it is upsetting, despite the fact that labor and time were spent
It should be borne in mind that the volume of the oven is still not large, for me it is optimal, there are two of us in the family, I never cook for future use, even breakfast, as a rule, various cereals, I try to sentence cheese cakes fresh, before work, the maximum that we have is a few days it is borscht and pilaf
I think that if I had an electric stove and at least some HP, I wouldn’t be looking for other happiness, but here it’s 2 in one, how can you only go through it, what else would it be to cross it with a microwave oven?
Well, plus the electricity bill has not come yet, I hope I won't have to hang a lock on the stove
Catwoman
Oles, so I have this 100% whim, because there are two bread machines (Panas and Zosya-Bolshaya) plus an electric stove that bakes well. But more and more often I look into this Temka, because I want to remove the stove, put the hob on 2 pancakes, because I rarely use a large oven. I pay about 600 rubles a month for electricity, but for me the main thing is not to spend half a day in the kitchen, but to put it on, press the buttons and you can do other things, and not half-exhausted after work to go to the kitchen. Therefore, I have a lot of kitchen equipment and I do not regret money for it, because all together they replace my housekeeper in the kitchen. My husband is already calmly looking at my acquisitions, he uses them with might and main.
kotyuchok
Lena, since my husband is calm and wants to, we must take
I didn’t have HP before, there’s nothing to compare, but since my oven bakes like it, there are problems here, in the automatic mode, I baked the top of the pizza, and until I figured out how to make steam for bread, but everything can be solved, the first bread turned out to be very delicious, albeit without steam, and the modes can always be adjusted manually.

offtopic: you have a cool british chocolate on your avatar, we also have a prankster blue cattle straight
Luda
I just bought a bread maker, but I don’t know how to pull out the "Form for kneading and baking with Mini-oven-bread machine DeLonghi EOB 2071", I’m afraid to tug strongly so as not to break it. Good people, please tell me how to pull it out?
kotyuchok
Lyudmila, congratulations on your purchase The form is pulled up, no strong efforts are required there, but I will not say so that it comes out very easily, I hope it helped, if you write something
Vica
Quote: julifera

What can I say - I felt it alive today, not really, but I was a little disappointed ...

My opinion is of course not a bread maker:

- do not add anything in the process
- do not control the bun
- a spatula cannot help a difficult batch

It's just a mini oven, but it's kind of very small.
Not very tight, that is, it can be easily covered and that's it, in my HP the lid fits more tightly.

It’s not me that it’s bad, no, for mini-sizes it’s probably good, electronic control and all that ...
it's just that she is categorically not worth the money that they want for her
about a spatula, difficult kneading does not help - try to thoroughly stir the finished mixture (already with water) before putting the mold in the oven
Deppert
Hello everyone!
After a long year of desire to have a bread maker in addition to a multicooker, I bought this wonderful oven.
So far, its main and only user is me, not my wife. Actually, I wanted a stove too.

They baked pizza, bread according to the "Turbo-bread in 1 hour" program (surprisingly, only 1 hour passed from the beginning of the kneading to the finished bread, however, it came out, of course, not so magnificent) and "Loaf of the times of stagnation".

The baton, by the way, did not come out. It's kind of baked, but somehow tasteless. I measured everything on the scales, what is wrong - I don't know, maybe flour? (Melkombinat No. 3). Bake on the "Baguettes" program, but the program at the stage of baking itself had to be interrupted ahead of schedule, since the top crust began to darken too much for the loaf due to the periodically turning on of the top heating element. I baked it already in the "oven" mode with one lower heating element turned on.

Vica
Quote: sazalexter

On the cut. As you can see, the bread turns out denser than in Panasonic

Mini oven-bread maker DeLonghi EOB 2071

Mini oven-bread maker DeLonghi EOB 2071
Did you touch the bread before turning on "baking" (when the display is blinking)? Have you looked at the date of the yeast?
This happened with me. I stopped touching with my hands and making cuts, when preparing the mixture + a little extra yeast and bread with a 750g program, it will be "super airy" and barely fit in the oven
Vica
Quote: Orchideyika

She became the owner of this miracle.
Please tell me if you need to use some special flour for baking bread.
If so, which one. Interested in "white" and "black" bread ...
I am very grateful for the answer in advance.
In fact, experts do not recommend "top grade", but "first"
Deppert
Quote: Vica

In fact, experts do not recommend "top grade", but "first"
In the sense of "general purpose baking flour"?

And in what way, by the way, is it different from the premium?
marish_kay
I also bought this unit! I have been experiencing it for a month now. Personally, I am absolutely delighted! The oven runs almost every day. Bread, pizza, muffin, and just dough for frills (yesterday the children cooked sausages in dough) everything turns out perfectly the first time. Although, in principle, I bought a mini-oven mainly as an oven, so as not to drive the big one again, and the function of the bread maker was like a pleasant bonus for me - so sometimes to indulge in it (well, we don't really like dough in order to buy a free-standing bread machine).
It is very easy to control the bun in it during kneading (otherwise they wrote somewhere that it is not possible - neither to control, nor to fill up) opened the door and poured flour (I always do this, since I bake mainly from 1 grade flour or coarse grinding, and it almost always has to be filled up).
I also really like the heating function, maintaining the temperature is a super thing! I use this function to heat baguettes, buns ... the aroma is as if I just baked it. It is also very convenient to reheat dishes that are not very convenient to heat in a frying pan, for example lasagne (I don't have a microwave oven! I threw it out deliberately). Or keep the patties hot while the potatoes are fried ...
I haven't tried a delayed start yet, but I think I'll get to it soon.
Thank you, everyone who answered my questions about this unit!
Recently, all new items in my kitchen appear thanks to this site.
sazalexter
Deppert Wheat flour in Russia, types, varieties, properties https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=100279.0
Deppert
Today's bread. Recipe from a book for the "Loaf of bread" oven, program AU3.
It turned out great!
The strange shape of the bread is explained by the small volume of dough in a large bowl (I put the ingredients on 500 grams of bread in total, the entire volume of the bowl did not take up the dough.
Mini oven-bread maker DeLonghi EOB 2071
sazalexter
Deppert Excellent bread, with an initiative Sometimes it blows my roof too
kotyuchok
sazalexter, and what is the reason, a lot of yeast?
sazalexter
kotyuchok Lack of water, just a little

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