yaKachka
If for you, as you write, the budget is not important - take Panasonic! Why comparisons!
pecar
I am very flattered by the manual mode, not a desire to be tied to programs!
yaKachka
If you are not going to bake with leaven, why then do you need it? Handmade is good for experienced bakers who bake sourdough.
pecar
so I am with dreams for the future)))) I don’t take it for two months ...
Samanata)
I just think if the functions are the same why overpay for the name? But I already doubt that something else from HB can be considered and we do not have HB Brand 3801 in Rostov, only if you order from Moscow what other options do you offer? I like the design of the Moulinex OW3101 Uno, but have not studied it in detail yet

Vanya28
Quote: Samanata)

I just think if the functions are the same why overpay for the name? But I already doubt that something else from HB can be considered and we do not have HB Brand 3801 in Rostov, only if you order from Moscow what other options do you offer? I like the design of the Moulinex OW3101 Uno, but have not studied it in detail yet

Better announce the entire list of Rostov, we will help you choose from the availability, well, or wait 24 hours while the carriage rolls from Moscow! Blue!
Vanya28
Quote: pecar

so I am with dreams for the future)))) I don’t take it for two months ...

Consider also a discount on the scales that are already built into the stove. No need to buy.
Samanata)
Quote: Vanya28

Better to announce the entire list of Rostov, we will help you choose from the availability, or wait 24 hours while the carriage from Moscow is rolling! Blue!
Well, the whole list will take a long time)))) I sold something for kitchen appliances, well, I still want HB, I need it for a reasonable price, say, up to 4t. p good HB
Vanya28
Quote: Samanata)

Well, the whole list will take a long time)))) I sold something for kitchen appliances, well, I still want HB, I need it for a reasonable price, say, up to 4t. p good HB

Brand 4500 rubles including scales (this is minus 500 - 1000 rubles.You will still have to buy scales)
And look less at design, reliability and function are important.
How he bakes here
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=152895.0

The aunts from there just got the quantity and quality of pastries.
Read 60 pages there ..

They did this in a month. Productive. They would have a skating rink like Raikin's.
So then it was ....
sazalexter
Samanata)Do not take Moulinex or noname that you chose, or Pansasonik 2500
14anna08
Quote: pecar

so I am with dreams for the future)))) I don’t take it for two months ...
so apparently my logic worked, taking into account the future.
14anna08
Quote: Samanata)

Well, the whole list will take a long time)))) I sold something for kitchen appliances, well, I still want HB, I need it for a reasonable price, say, up to 4t. p good HB
you will order if (like me) do not take delivery by Autotray ... better by mail, for 9 days I have been taking it. I spit for such delivery
14anna08
Quote: Vanya28

And what kind of stove did you choose?
Vanechka and nothing that was like this:
Quote: 14anna08

so apparently my logic worked, taking into account the future.
now can you ask pekar?

And indeed, V spoke out for the delivery. and the delivery as faster was advised by the managers. Now, of course, Brand is to blame, I will be that the money came late, but I also worry about how it is kept by the courier all these days.
Vanya28
Quote: 14anna08

.... Brand .... it is kept all these days by the courier.

It's all coming, your stove will arrive.
It is correct that they took her. Price - quality, especially functions - everything is balanced.
Regarding the margin for growth, this is certainly an exaggeration due to inexperience, since you quickly get used to good things.
If you don't throw it into the far corner, but feed your family with fresh bread and pastries, you will immediately start using all its capabilities.
If you like rye bread, from whole grain flour, come to the topic, we'll tell you everything.
With this stove, everything will come down only to learning how to work with the dough (well, without it anywhere) and that's it, no further brakes. Any recipe, any parameters, expose and bake everything.
Well, the ready-made programs there are quite successful.
Buy flour and everything else for your favorite recipes while she is coming to you.
14anna08
yeah, I ordered a link on the site to "peki myself", while in Rostov I don’t know where to buy. but they probably have until 10 days off they are silent for now
Vanya28
Quote: 14anna08

yeah, I ordered a link on the site to "peki myself", while in Rostov I don’t know where to buy. but they are probably silent until 10 days off

And you go to the section, communication with fellow countrymen, there you will find everything in Rostov.
Rostov-on-Don
Samanata)
Today I dreamed of HB all night long, before I got out called so to nothing and did not come yet. And whoever knows what is the name of HB in which you can also bake loaves, I remember how a long time ago there was advertising on TV.
14anna08
Quote: Samanata)

Today I dreamed of HB all night long, before I got out called so to nothing and did not come yet. And whoever knows what the name of HB is in which you can also bake loaves, I remember how long ago there was advertising on TV.
you probably mean moulinex with baguettes in the m-video there are both, but how lucky with the quality. I read about them and somehow did not dare, although outwardly I really liked
Rina
just keep in mind that these same "baguettes" are more likely the size of a bun for one person. And they will have to be molded with handles anyway.
IRR
Quote: Rina

just keep in mind that these same "baguettes" are more likely the size of a bun for one person. And they will have to be molded with handles anyway.

just about, as far as I know, these baguettes are for * playing * the first week ...
Samanata)
Quote: IRR

just about, as far as I know, these baguettes are for * playing * the first week ...
Quote: Rina

just keep in mind that these same "baguettes" are more likely the size of a bun for one person. And they will have to be molded with handles anyway.
so this model disappears, thanks to choose further
sazalexter
Quote: Samanata)

Today I dreamed of HB all night long, before I got out called so to nothing and did not come yet. And whoever knows what the name of HB is in which you can also bake loaves, I remember how long ago there was advertising on TV.
There is also a miracle stove DeLonghi EOB 2071 https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=143917.0
*** yana ***
I also like the LG HB-2001BY Bread Maker (with YOGHURT and BUTTER functions)
Samanata)
Quote: Gasha

Samanata)look

here is this cool Philips HD9040 but it is not on sale
Samanata)
Now I also watched these Philips HD9020, in the reviews on the Yandex brand they write that it smells of plastic when working, I have not read reviews on the forum yet. And in this Moulinex OW3101 Uno there is no rye bread program (again, the Yandex market enlightened). Comrades, just don’t throw slippers at me, I’ve probably already tortured everyone))) I just don’t want to throw money away
Gasha
Samanata), rye bread can be baked in any oven ... Loaves, baguettes, and pies - in the oven ...

Any new technique will smell at first ...
Vanya28
Quote: Samanata)

Now I also watched these Philips HD9020, in the reviews on the Yandex brand they write that it smells of plastic when working, I have not read reviews on the forum yet. And in this Moulinex OW3101 Uno there is no rye bread program (again, the Yandex market enlightened). Comrades, just don’t throw slippers at me, I’ve probably already tortured everyone))) I just don’t want to throw money away

And the flour of choice helps to heal pies and a lot of tea.
Ukka
Help is needed!
I choose an inexpensive bread maker in Russia for my daughter, we will order in Russia with delivery to the region ... Therefore, the choice is not great ...
Dotsya is familiar with the bread maker. When we had Binaton 1008, Dotsya baked with might and main. The current Orion 27 is confusing for her ... I consider myself an experienced baker, so I found a common language with the stove ... But dotsya no ...

Therefore, a stove is needed
1. Inexpensive, up to 2500 rubles.
2. The lock of the bucket must be of the LOCK - UNLOCK type and this is mandatory.
3. No dispenser needed.

Lenok1
Good day. I can't decide on the choice of a bread machine. I like the models: GORENJE BM 900 W, SUPRA BMS-355 and MOULINEX OW 200033.Can you tell me what is better to take?
Vanya28
Quote: Lenok1

Good day. I cannot decide on the choice of a bread machine. I like the following models: GORENJE BM 900 W, SUPRA BMS-355 and MOULINEX OW 200033. Can you tell me which is better to take?

And nothing else is offered for selection?
14anna08
and you are not confused by frequent breakdowns in moulinex?
Lenok1
Quote: 14anna08

and you are not confused by frequent breakdowns in moulinex?
Breakdowns are embarrassing, of course. That's why I wrote to advise what is the best of all this. I am ready to consider other models, just for the price I would like to meet the maximum of 4.000. I would be very grateful for your help in choosing!
14anna08
behold
I tested this model of the bread maker in the month of January. Smiling

White bread, small weight - recipe from the instructions for the bread maker

In terms of quality and taste - nothing bread!

Wheat-rye bread, medium weight - my recipe

In terms of baking quality and taste - not my bread!

I recommend buying a bread maker for those who are not afraid of the noise of the bread machine. It is noisy, the dispenser opens with a bang. There was a situation when I sat down in the middle of the hallway (5-6 meters from the working c / stove itself) because of the roar, and hardly let go of a cup of tea - it seemed right away that a new c / stove had exploded ... Giggles

What this model of bread maker does well is kneading the dough according to the Dough program, the time is 1.30 hours. The quality of the dough is good, the kneading is thorough.

There is a ventilation and cooling mode in any bread maker and even in an oven - to regulate the heat when baking pies and bread.
My Hitachi born in 1995/6 also has holes in the lid, but this does not prevent her from baking wonderful bread with a beautiful crust.
The quality of the color of the crust of the finished bread in this model, as can be seen from my photo, is quite normal and tanned Smiling

I realized that a round bucket with a flat kneading knife is for making jam, preserves and the like, where constant stirring is required. For baking muffins, the knife can be removed.

I am impressed that the instructions for the bread maker describe baking modes by hours / minutes. But, I was not satisfied with the three-fold proofing of the dough with any baking mode, and even more so short - this can affect the quality of the finished bread, and that can be seen from the cuts in my bread photos.

Good bread to you! Give a rose
More details: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=120774.0
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14anna08
Irr wrote in the same topic
If you need small volumes and the principle of spec for one time and tomorrow is fresh, then it is better to buy stoves of small volume, for example Binaton 1008. The price of the issue is 65 USD. e. approximately.
she has max. baking weight 450 gr. and decent reviews on the Internet with pictures.

Compact design Fully automatic bread preparation (kneading, raising, baking) Maintain temperature for 1 hour Memory function during power outages up to 15 minutes Sight glass Removable bowl with non-stick coating Dishwasher safe Non-heating body Non-slip feet Measuring cup and spoon 5 automatic cooking modes Loaf weight 450 g Power 530 V
More details: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=120774.0
14anna08
sorry, for the second stove left to choose - read a lot, see for yourself please
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=102643.0
Vanya28
Quote: Lenok1

Breakdowns are embarrassing, of course. That's why I wrote to advise what is the best of all this. I ready to consider other models, just for the price I would like to meet the maximum of 4.000. I would be very grateful for your help in choosing!

Then write a list of all the local stoves and do you consider buying by mail?
The presented list is somehow not very happy.
Are there already kitchen scales, measuring spoons?
Where are you from, indicate in your profile or write here.

Advise her then ...
Lenok1
I also like these models of PANASONIC SD-2500 WTS, LG HB-159 E bread machines. But I don’t know which one is better. It's embarrassing that there is no rye bread function on Panasonic.
Maybe you would advise?
Vanya28
Quote: Lenok1

I also like these models of PANASONIC SD-2500 WTS, LG HB-159 E bread machines.But I don’t know which one is better. It's embarrassing that there is no rye bread function on Panasonic.
Maybe you would advise?

How can you be joking when comparing this pair of models!

Here is how to bake rye in Panasonic.
Custard rye bread is real (almost forgotten taste). Baking methods and additives.
Rush after Panas and don't think about anything.
Rina
Lenok1, rye can be baked even in the absence of the desired program. You just need to turn on your head and hands. Well, there will not be a full automatic machine for baking rye, so this does not work even if there are programs - it is still advisable to approach HP. So, take Panas - this is a cool, almost trouble-free workhorse.
dimolder
Hello SW. BAKERY
For the second day I have been choosing a bread maker, I can’t decide ... I’m looking at the budget options for the Aurora AU-481 70ue,
LIBERTON LBM-05 66y. e, VINIS VBM-6502 55 cu e.
Please help me decide! Or advise the best option for $ 70. e. Thanks in advance.
mowgli
Quote: Lenok1

I also like these models of PANASONIC SD-2500 WTS, LG HB-159 E bread machines. But I don’t know which one is better. It's embarrassing that there is no rye bread function on Panasonic.
Maybe you would advise?
was LV, now Panas is already six months. I would only take Panas ... though I also like Kenwood 450, but that's another story ...
Samanata)
comrades, well, help me choose HB. Not long ago I bought a Delongy 1200, baked terrible bread several times, handed it back to the store, it turned out to be a factory defect, there was something with ten. And I didn't like the two kneaders. Now you need a HB not very large, max. baking 1kg, power 600-650W, so that you can bake rye bread, sweet pastries. And the main thing is that it bakes well, at a price of up to 4 tons. I watched many different models and scarlet and moulinex and supra and phillips, I can't choose at all, I don't want to get in again.
R.S really looking forward to your advice
mumi
I join with the question about a budget stove with minimal tambourines and maximum reliability. That is, so that without foil and other "improvements" it will bake and not fall apart. I would like to within 2t. r., but I will buy up to 4t if many parameters fit at once.

We are going to bake rye bread for sure.
: girl_cleanglasses: And a separate question - where does it get dense bread?
We do not like especially airy.
sazalexter
Quote: mumi

I join with the question about a budget stove with minimal tambourines and maximum reliability. That is, so that without foil and other "improvements" it will bake and not fall apart.

We are going to bake rye bread for sure.
Panasonic SD-2501 https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=126137.0

Quote: mumi


And a separate question is where it turns out dense bread?
We do not like especially airy.
Mini oven-bread machine DeLonghi EOB 2071 https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=143917.0
And so that for 4tyr and reliable and rye and dense does not happen, sorry
Vanya28
Quote: mumi

I join with the question about a budget stove with minimal tambourines and maximum reliability. That is, so that without foil and other "improvements" it will bake and not fall apart. I would like to within 2t. R., but also up to 4t buyif many parameters fit at once.

We are going to bake rye bread for sure.
And a separate question is where it turns out dense bread?
We do not like especially airy.

For 4000 rubles the largest set of functions for baking any bread, and rye bakes simply playfully, read about it here -
Help with choosing a bread machine Help with choosing a bread machine
Low-grade flour buy and you will thicker bread!
sazalexter
Quote: mumi

I join with the question about a budget stove with minimal tambourines and maximum reliability. That is, so that without foil and other "improvements" it will bake and not fall apart. I would like to within 2t. r., but I will buy up to 4t if many parameters fit at once.

We are going to bake rye bread for sure.
: girl_cleanglasses: And a separate question - where does it get dense bread?
We do not like especially airy.
As an option, programmable HP + recipes based on dough or sourdoughs, but this is also more expensive than 4tyr
yeast-based bread in HP will still be airy
TET
Good day)
Help with choosing a bread machine. Now I stopped at 2 options (based on the price, functionality and reviews on the Internet, but if I missed something, suggest your options)
As a result, I am now considering "Supra BMS 355" and "Philips HD 9020/40"
On the forum I did not find a separate section on supra, only certain topics in general) In principle, I have been using a microwave oven and a TV from this manufacturer for 2 years already, I have no problems. But nevertheless, the bread maker will be more complicated and more "tender", since the question of reliability is open. Although the company seems to be Japanese (it is clear that the assembly is China, but still ...) Well, a dispenser as a bonus)
I count on the amount up to 4k + -, I'm not chasing the Brand (from my experience I know that sometimes a Chinese under the brand of the 2nd echelon can be no worse than other famous brands, but this is not always and not for all products). I want the maximum combination of price / reliability / functionality. Can anyone use these units and leave their opinion?
thanks in advance for the advice
mumi
: hi: Brand I already look after. True, I have the scales and so. By the way, a friend told me that they are going to modernize it in the near future. No one knows?

And Mystery1202 tempts me for the first purchase. Cheap and small, and on it, I looked here in the subject very decently baked. True, the density of the bread is not discussed, you will have to ask how I will finish reading. And the Supras were intrigued.
In the rye topic, were they also mentioned?
Since such an ambush with dense bread, I think it is worth starting with an inexpensive stove and trying to squeeze what you can out of it.
sazalexter
Quote: TET

Although the company seems to be Japanese (it is clear that the assembly is China,
Our firm is primordially Russian assembly China, the quality is at the level of a Chinese toy, service is even worse, draw your own conclusions ...
TET
But aren't the services now about the same everywhere? I mean, basically, repairs in the regions are carried out under a license and, as a rule, there is more than one brand. For example, now I broke through the SC "Electronics" which, judging by the off site, is the SC of the supra in NN and they are also the SC Samsung, Phillips and Sony (+ a bunch of other brands)
Now I read about supra, it seemed like it was Japan, but now it's not clear at all)

But still, what about other analogues for this money?)

ps on phillips strains the smell of plastic during work. Moreover, this is not a single review, I constantly meet on different sites (and it is on this model). And the smell just doesn't happen, so the discharge is coming.

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