Kenwood kitchen machine: working with attachments

[lady inna]

But in general, is there a fundamental advantage of KM over a bread maker in kneading a simple yeast dough? Well, except in some cases the size of the test?

lady inna, for me this advantage is huge and tangible, and not at all in the quantity of the dough, but in its quality. I do not argue that my Panasonic produces good dough, but compared even with the spirals of a hand mixer, it loses, what can be compared with the work of Kenwood. Someone expressed himself here on this issue, and did not stand next to it. I wrote a huge post here on mixing, these are not rules, but my conclusions. I'll find it now, I'll poke it on you. Maybe you will find something useful for yourself.

I will support 100%: hug and cry with delight

eye! Yes! You take it out of the bowl, and it sings in your hands, so elastic ("like the bottom of a child, like the belly of a sleeping cat" - these are the comparisons of Admin), silk, all in small thin-walled bubbles. And this despite the fact that I have it from 1st grade flour with the addition of whole grain to the sourdough.

Peter Push, eye, wow, you convinced me with your enthusiasm at once! And my bread maker is also Panasonic.

[Miranda]

What did it seem? And what did the raisins confirm?
I’m already confused

Miranda, but the same it seemed that hanging on the hook did not move. For Admin, "when kneading, the dough goes down and up on the hook." So I tried it, but Admin is right!
All about kneading and speeds is not a word more, honestly

[mixing speed]

About mixing speed.
Not every dough likes to be beaten (which in this case is equivalent to high speed). Meat "dough" (for sausages, cutlets, ham), for example, loves. Some types of cereal dough are also recommended to be beaten on the table.
Many types of bread dough and almost all yeast dough, on the contrary, like slow, smooth, squeezing movements. This corresponds to a speed even lower than 1. That is, the speed of movement of the hook must be such that between the cycles of operation with a particular corner of the dough, it has time to "exhale".
That is, the hook lifted the dough in one place and went further in a circle, and in this place the dough should have time to settle, fall under its weight.
At high speed, it does not have time to do this.
That is, when a manufacturer writes his recommendations for yeast dough, he focuses not so much on the endurance of the CM, as on the manufacturability of the process itself, that is, its maximum approximation to manual, when we knead the dough with our hands, picking up and kneading it with smooth movements, as if rolling up and kneading it on the board.
And at high speed in the KM, spreading is obtained, throwing the dough against the walls of the bowl, and not methodical kneading. Yeast dough doesn't like it.
Good luck!

[Silicone lid]

Maybe someone will be interested. Silicone lid for a redmond multicooker bowl, it is ideal to sit on a small Kesha bowl. I use actively

Olga, and what is it used for? there is a native cover

anna_k, if there are two cups in one dough, a kind of silicone is suitable - there is a small hole in it to breathe, and in the other you work

[Ketsal]

Ketsal, Thank you! I have two just

Girls, and who has glass bowl - what are the advantages? I have my own metal and plastic from the ice cream maker. Glass does not give rest

Anya, I had a glass second to the sense, I really liked to do everything in it basically .. I sat down at the computer and I see how the bun sees itself ... or when I am doing other things .. and there is the dough .. you can see everything ...

Helen, and in terms of adhesion? The dough practically does not stick to the plastic.

Anya, her, does not stick !!

Anya, does not stick to metal either. But washing glass is harder than metal (it is heavy). Plastic is easier to wash, what is dry falls off easily.

Where can I see a glass bowl? I have a 096 model, does it have this bowl?

Natusichka, no, 6.7 liters glass no bowl.
It would be very hard.

Looked "in nature" press for berries AT644 Painfully small holes in the grid there Owners, tell me, can you squeeze out a lot of berries before the grid clogs up and you have to clean it? And how quickly and conveniently can it be done?

Girls, boys, help out!
Question about the nozzle-sieve KAV992PL sieve-wipe
He seems to be for the Chief. But everything converges with the old AT 930. And the thickness of the pin and the diameter of the bowl. Stands up for Cooking norms. But on the AT930 there are bends and notches (it is not clear why), it still does not cling to the handles and spins a little when wiping. And in this one there is just a cup with rims to lay on the cup and that's it.
And now the problem will arise on KM020, is it normal?
A very urgent question!
Thanks in advance for your answers!

PySy on the official website there are three varieties. And the photo is the same. With bumpers like AT930

Looked "in nature" press for berries AT644 Painfully small holes there in the net

Galina, look at the reviews in the thread.
For example, here, here.
Yet this is might be useful, etc.
Flip through the topic, there are many opinions.

It can also be useful, etc.

here, by the way, the sieve is being discussed. Thank you, Olya!
But AT 930, for example, I already have plastic, although I bought it three years ago for sure. And the body is not deeper than for the chief. and the thickness of the pin itself and the height are the same
The only difference is in the sides. AT 930 the side is as if with the letter P, and 992 with the letter G

The silicone lid for the redmond multicooker bowl fits perfectly on the small Kesha bowl. I use actively

We do not have such a multi, but the need for such a cap, I'm sure, is clear to everyone.
it would be better if instead of a mat under a hot lid they figured out

the thickness of the pin itself and the height are the same

not the same height of the pin (((I didn’t see it right away. Not a very noticeable difference
I inserted the bowl and the pin too, but did not lower my head ... But I had to. Then I would not ask anyone any questions ... Well, maybe someone will come in handy ... People will buy a lot of Senses now
992-purely for the boss means
but my brain got cancer. Why is the chef longer then?

[Zhanik]

Zhanik, well, maybe the distance between the bowl and the head is a little more.

[Zhanik]

Zhanik, well, maybe the distance between the bowl and the head is a little more.

can...
and logically it seems that if the bowl is higher, then the pin should be higher

[Zhanik]

Zhanik, it's not the height of the bowl itself, but the distance between the bowl and the head.

The Senses have a bowl lower than the Majors, but their head is lower.

[eye]

eye, so this cover in Redmond is sold separately for 200-300 rubles. I'll take a picture tomorrow

[Olga]

Olga, thanks, but I have a bowl of 6.7 liters, it is unlikely to fit

[Olga]

Olga, thanks, but I have a bowl of 6.7 liters, it is unlikely to fit

diameter of bowls is practically the same
I checked on a sieve today

well well!!!
will need to pay attention

We do not have such a multi, but the need for such a cap, I'm sure, is clear to everyone.
it would be better if instead of a mat under a hot lid they figured out

Sorry, but I'm putting on a shower cap, well, something like that is now being sold to her for cooking. Very convenient, since not all lids fit on a 6.7 liter bowl.

Are you wondering about the cube cutter discs sold separately? We could have made the size of the cubes ourselves.

I tried on a redmond silicone lid to my 6.7 bowl - it fit perfectly! I wouldn't even think of trying it on. Still, the collective mind is great! Thank you!

I tried on a redmond silicone lid to my 6.7 bowl - it fit perfectly! I wouldn't even think of trying it on. Still, the collective mind is great! Thank you!

Can you see a photo? Are these covers sold separately?

[Anna]

Anna, covers are sold separately, I bought in a redmond store, we used to have such a store in our city. I saw them in hardware stores or in mvideo or eldorado. I can't take a picture now, I'm out of town with slow internet. It just won't boot.
I have a burgundy color with an inscription redmond.

[Inna]

InnaThank you, I remember seeing them in sets in Eldo. We have to look.

Girls, I'm reporting. Got spiral hooks for kmix and 065 from ebay (thanks to the girls Miranda and Peter Push for the tip, discussed on pages 49-50). The hooks come without a shank. The rods are unscrewed from the standard and inserted into spiral hooks. They are so fat. It is written that it is impossible to wash in the dishwasher, since the hooks are made of an aluminum / zinc alloy, m. B. corrosion. And that the best kneading result is from 63% hydration. I personally liked how the dough is kneaded. Now my darling is happy!

[lou]

lou, or you can link for the hook for the little chef


Girls catch-cap

I tried on a redmond silicone lid to my 6.7 bowl - it fit perfectly! I wouldn't even think of trying it on. Still, the collective mind is great! Thank you!

And I have a cover from the add. bowls to Shteba and also ideally fits a bowl of 6.7l))) but it is the usual nylon.

[Ketsal]

Ketsal, here is exactly the same and I have a cover. It's a great idea to use it for a bowl!

Received from ebay spiral hooks for kmix and 065

Excellent, happy for you and that you liked it.

065 is this a big bowl?
Spiral hooks fit to it and from induction.
But for small bowls, foreign craftsmen sell on ebee.

The new Titans also have a spiral hook, like for a small bowl, but you need to see if the pin is the right one for compatibility.

[Miranda]

Miranda, to know how to look!

Sorry, but I'm putting on a shower cap, well, something like that is now being sold to her for cooking. Very convenient, since not all lids fit on a 6.7 liter bowl.

Natasha, I also adapted the hat, which I wrote about more than once, suddenly someone will come in handy.
with a lid more civilized somehow

[Ketsal]

Ketsal, Olga, Thank you. Really very comfortable and aesthetically pleasing. It is necessary to buy on occasion.

Are you wondering about the cube cutter discs sold separately? We could have made the size of the cubes ourselves.

Yes, I often see it on ebay.

[Miranda]

The new Titans also have a spiral hook, like for a small bowl, but you need to see if the pin is the right one for compatibility.

Miranda, a pin in the cross-section of a square, I saw myself in the store. The seller asked "the geometry of the bowl of this novelty and the bowls of previously released machines are the same? Is the thread pitch of the pin of this hook identical to that of the Kenwood Chef hook?" I looked somehow bad and could not say anything. I wished him success in studying the materiel and left, but the questions remained ...

Added on Tuesday 14 Feb 2017 00:22

Got it from ebay

This was before the message lou , now I know the answer. I just want to buy such a hook ..... oho-ho

Well, maybe someone will come in handy ...

Do I understand correctly that 992 is not suitable for a cooking chef?

Do I understand correctly that 992 is not suitable for a cooking chef?

Yes. Doesn't fit Majors

Well, well .... I missed so many interesting things! Spiral hooks appeared to small bowls ??? Am I getting it right?
As for the pins, spare pins go to the attachments - mixers that are purchased separately.

[Zhanik]

I often see on ebay

discs with different cube sizes? Are they homemade, or Kenwood's, we just don't have them?
Zhanik, Thank you! It's a pity (((there was hope ... I got confused with a sieve while I read the topic with nozzles, all three sections on cars, generally confused which ones are suitable for coking (

[lou]

a pin in the cross-section of a square, I saw it myself in the store.

Interestingly, but what about the souffleika?
Or can a round pin go into a square socket, but a square one into a round one not?

Well, at least from the video in the new induction, a round pin.
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Spiral hooks appeared to small bowls ??? Am I getting it right?

Not Kenwood, but homemade.
Some craftsmen from the Netherlands make hooks for different machines - kenwood, kitchenaid, etc. And they sell them on ebee.

For 6.7 bowls, it makes no sense to buy such, since there is a native Kenwood from induction. But for small bowls it makes sense. lou, I bought this one.

Read in this thread 49-50 pages, there are different links on YouTube and ebay.

Thank you girls for the congratulations. Maybe this is my quirk, but I didn't really like kneading with regular hooks.

065 is this a big bowl?
Spiral hooks fit to it and from induction.

So, for the sake of economy, I also took for 065 in this place.

🔗

Thank you! It's a pity (((there was hope ... I got confused with the sieve

alas, I also wanted to get by with one and the Major and the Chief (((But no

[Miranda]

Interestingly, but what about the souffleika?
Or can a round pin go into a square socket, but a square one into a round one not?

Well at least from the video in the new induction round pin

Miranda, hook, k-shaped, whisk, soufflake in Kenwood Chief Titanium and Kenwood Chief Elite have a square pin, I think round and square pins are interchangeable.
Yes, in the new induction the pins are round, but whether the diameter is the same as in previously released machines is still a question. The company does not really bother itself in terms of the interchangeability of nozzles.

Maybe this is my quirk, but I didn't really like kneading with regular hooks

lou, yes, all the same spiral-shaped are the best in this regard, it's not just that spiral hooks are on the kneaders and the bowl turns there during kneading.

Kenwood has something else to surprise us with, to make a bowl spinning during kneading at least on Kmix!

[souffleika]

hook, k-shaped, whisk, souffleika in Kenwood Chief Titanium and Kenwood Chief Elite have a square pin, I think round and square pins are interchangeable

But there is a standard AT512 for a large bowl.
The only thing, I think, is that one pin is unscrewed, the other is screwed in. But what about the hook, which is not recommended to touch.

The company does not really bother itself in terms of the interchangeability of nozzles.

I partially disagree.
For many years, from the very beginning until the appearance of Sense and beyond, all nozzles were divided only into - a large bowl and a small one. The nests were also the same, if any.

It was only from the appearance of Sensei that the confusion began.
For some reason, the company changed the low-speed socket first, then the pin, and completely removed the middle one. Only the high-speed jack is unchanged.

Probably, there is some explanation for this, except for the idea of ​​making money on adapters and new attachments.

Yes, in the new induction the pins are round, but whether the diameter is the same as in previously released machines is still a question.

Several countries have well-organized owner communities. The best thing in France, such a structure is envious. For the complete ideal of philanthropy, they only lack service - they handed over the old model, paid a little extra and took a new one, and the market for the models handed over.

So, in the French club, in the Italian, everywhere they describe in detail what is new and how to be with the old nozzles. And there they write that an adapter is needed only for a low-speed socket, and it is included in the package bundle. They also mention a new pin for a food processor, immediately noticing that a new processor with the correct pin is included, so there is no need to worry here either. And the old stirrer of two sticks and the old hook, if anyone loves them, will stand up normally.

And I am in doubt with the ice cream maker. Before, I almost constantly stood in the freezer, and then accidentally noticed that the ice tasted a bit bitter. It will melt - everything is fine. This is a dumb quirk, I checked it, let others try it. I removed it - everything is fine. I searched for a long time, but did not meet such a problem. Now I'm thinking. Maybe this refrigerant is running through?

And that the best kneading result is from 63% hydration. I personally liked how the dough is kneaded. Now my darling is happy!

Oh, girls, how savvy you are. I do not understand at all what this is about, even Miranda and Biju wrote about some percentage of moisture during kneading, discussed, for me it is still very cool! I read it and did not understand anything)))))
A question for techies and craftsmen, Miranda join, please - your inquiring mind is necessary! And also men appeared as service workers or just very skillful people, I also read them.
I'm talking about an ice cream nozzle, or rather about its insert with refrigerant. This insert leaks for many, almost all of them are strange to the hike.
mine is from Germany, in use for a month, everything seems to be clean, but today the herds are putting ice cream and I see some unfrozen drops, strange, minus 21 ..... then she began to shift the ice cream and lick her finger, well, the drop got in and there was such bitterness. I began to look carefully, there are no smudges, but where does it come from! Oozing slowly.
Actually what is the question. Is it possible to walk along the side, where it is seamed from the outside with some kind of cold-resistant glue. Will it help as a preventive measure, or maybe it is oozing from somewhere, but in the freezer I saw liquid in the package where it was packed for cooling.
In general, what will be the thoughts. I have these formed. If this is normal with glue, then what would you advise to glue. Well, it's not superglue to glue it, even though there won't be any contact with food, but I'm afraid that it doesn't need minus 21 temperature. (I would put it right under the side and in a circle.) I will post it on the photo, but many have this nozzle and have already flashed in this topic).

Added on Tuesday 14 Feb 2017 17:18

Natasha, I also adapted the hat, which I wrote about more than once, suddenly someone will come in handy.
with a lid more civilized somehow

I only then read up to your message, did not visit the topic for several days and accumulated, so I answered, and then I saw your message
With a lid on the proofer will not rise - the head gets in the way.))))) And the hat, as you wrote, a little immersed and that's it.

Added on Tuesday 14 Feb 2017 05:23 PM

And I am in doubt with the ice cream maker. Before, I almost constantly stood in the freezer, and then accidentally noticed that the ice tasted a bit bitter. It will melt - everything is fine. This is a dumb quirk, I checked it, let others try it. I removed it - everything is fine. I searched for a long time, but did not meet such a problem. Now I'm thinking. Maybe this refrigerant is running through?

ABOUT! right to the point, I also got it after about a month of use. I, too, accidentally, wrote above that I licked my finger, the ice cream just cooked when transferring it, and I also touched the sidewall with it at the bowl ..... I think to prophylactically walk with glue, I'm waiting for the opinion of odnoforumchan - keshavodov!

Miranda and Biju also wrote about some percentage of moisture during mixing

No, no, it's Bijou! I don't need someone else's glory
I still do not operate with such concepts as the percentage of moisture in the dough, I am just learning.

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I don’t know what to suggest about the ice cream maker.
I only saw her in the picture, I did not hold it in my hands.

For myself, long before buying Kenwood, about five years ago I made a conclusion that if I want an ice cream maker, I will buy a separate freezer. I don't like the idea of ​​keeping a bucket in the freezer. I watched this from relatives, did not like it. Because I don’t want to keep the place all the time, it’s a pity, but when it’s necessary, it’s good if you need to think about it in a day at least, and so on. Plus the result.

Therefore, I have never considered an ice cream maker as an attachment or a separate device (for any money) with a bucket in the freezer, did not google, etc.

hook, k-shaped, whisk, soufflake in Kenwood Chef Titanium and Kenwood Chef Elite have a square pin

Is it new? I have a Kenwood Chef Titanium and nozzles with round pins (I don't have a prompter - I don't know which pin).

[Miranda]

Miranda, I'm talking about the principle of gluing. Do you think this is possible at all? Now I'll throw a photo of the side.
I took it just for testing, but do I need my own ice cream, since my husband is a terrible ice cream eater! I'm not idle, I have a conveyor! Freezer, so there is room.but in the future there will be a freezer, so it seems to me)))) In the meantime, help me figure it out. We use food glue, well, there is probably someone who glue what, in theory, can come into contact with food? ......

General form. The metal is rolled to the outside and does not come into contact with food there.

I think to glue it under this side ..... while I washed it and I want to dry it and warm it up completely. And then I have it all in use.

Added on Tuesday 14 Feb 2017 06:24 PM

More than that, he essentially has nowhere to go.
There are no holes, the metal is inserted into plastic and the cavity inside is filled, by the type of cooling elements, what is in the refrigerator on the door or what is put in bags.

[Bast1nda]

Bast1nda, never came across food glue, if any.

You need to google it, look for an answer, or contact the service for advice.

To be honest, I am surprised that such an ice cream maker is. This is either some strange game, or something is wrong with the use, and you need to read the instructions.

[Miranda]

Miranda, so it’s not only for me, for many on the seam, the bunches simply dry up, and for someone they left at all, while they cleaned them in the closet for the winter - I read on HP. Vaughn and Arlei he writes a similar thing, it’s just unnoticeable in our country, but we felt it. I'm already googling, I found different adhesives, including poxipol, maybe also men in the subject can clarify something.
If you find something or think of something, remember - write.