Caprice
I wouldn't trust DeLongy either. But my opinion is rather subjective: I don't trust the quality of De-Longhi products at all.
natalka
The question was to choose from two data, and not to trust or NOT to trust. And under this condition of the problem, the answer is clear Delonghi espresso (15 bar, with pump)
Crochet
Uncle Sam,
I would definitely choose Delonghi espresso (15 bar, with pump), but this is my opinion, the last word of course will be yours. Good luck to you!
Freken Bock
Well, again, speaking of oysters, they do not praise the carob coffee makers that are sold in home appliance stores. And the coffee from the geyser coffee maker is quite decent, only without the foam. And comparing the price of one and the other, the answer that carob is better is not so obvious ... But in fact (these are no longer oysters, but personal experience, and although it is banal and obvious, but it was necessary to come to this yourself) in order to get a great espresso you need more than just a great coffee maker. Type of coffee, degree of roast, grind, FRESH grind, etc. Well, what am I telling you, dear coffee lovers! From this coffee, which we now buy for our favorite, and in a Turk, super coffee can be made.
Freken Bock
It started ... I went and brewed coffee both in the geyser and in the coffeemaker. The taste of the drink is comparable.

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Caprice
Quote: natalka

The question was to choose from two data, and not to trust or NOT to trust. And under this condition of the problem, the answer is clear Delonghi espresso (15 bar, with pump)
DeLongi - it is DeLongi, that is, de-mo. And it doesn't matter what model it is demo. If you are going to spend money on a coffee maker, then take something normal, worthwhile, and not something that you throw away in a year.
Uncle Sam
Thank you, Sisters, for a fruitful discussion! And even such a stormy ...

IMHO: there are no really bad companies, there are unsuccessful models.

The marketing joke is that a geyser coffee maker has a display and a timer, but a car coffee machine without. Because of this, their price difference is less than a thousand rubles. Sooner or later I will buy a coffee machine (most likely Saeko). But denying yourself great coffee, expecting a big purchase, is stupid. (now I have Ufesa Capricciosa, 5 bar, no pump, much tastier than instant coffee, but ...)

Something comparative analysis at Freken Bok dragged on ... (if the country suddenly runs out of coffee, you know WHO "tried" it)
Freken Bock
Quote: Uncle Sam

geyser coffee maker with display and timer

It's just a spaceship of some kind! I have not seen such. Why didn’t I see, didn’t suspect about their existence! Even with an eye to the epigraph about oysters, there is nothing to say in this case.

By the way, we got a chain of stores that sold us a coffee maker and did not add a pod attachment. They returned it to us. And again, out of our restlessness, we started drinking coffee in pods. Bullshit, and expensive. Both the thick cream and the incomparable aroma are obtained only from freshly ground coffee.
Uncle Sam
Well, not quite a ship ...
Here you can "fly" on it:
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and here is her rival (my favorite)
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And what was tastier: geyser coffee or from a horn ?! Do not torment! You alone ate oysters from different lagoons!
Freken Bock
Uncle Sam, "carob" tastes better. Adds pluses, of course, foam and aroma. For some reason, the smell in a geyser coffee maker is more modest. And I repeat once again that the result is very, very dependent on the coffee itself. This morning has passed under the influence of inferior gift coffee, the good one is over. Hence the lack of enthusiasm.
Freken Bock
Uncle Sam , I just put a geyser coffee maker on the fire. I think this significantly affects the price.

And about oysters, I'm one of those disputants who have not tried them. I'm talking about the DeLongs.
Caprice
Uncle Sam, it all depends on your personal preferences: which coffee do you personally like more, espresso with froth or macchiato. For espresso, use a carob.If macchiato - one, the other. That's all the wisdom.
Qween
Uncle Sam, probably it's too late - you've made your choice. But, I will also write a few words.
Definitely need to take the espresso machine. I have something to compare with - I have both.
It is even useless to compare coffee from these two types of coffee makers. You can compare coffee from a Turkish and a carob - then there is something to talk about.
Kosharik
And my Saeko went to be repaired. I did not expect so many glitches from Saeki ... And the manufacturer company can be judged, in particular, by the level of service in the service center (and this company, in combination, is also an exclusive supplier in the Russian Federation). It all started with the fact that they poured slop on both me and the seller (it was about the removal by the service center from me of a coffee machine weighing 17 kg). But you can't take us with your bare hands, we ourselves have been working in sales for 10 years.But the seller worked out the problem by all 200% - not only did he offer to take it out on his own, he also rattled on someone's ears at the dealership. But how the repair will end - I don't know yet.
Elena74
Quote: Kosharik

And my Saeko went to be repaired.
What's wrong with your sayeko? How did you determine that it is not working properly?
Cake
"The price has dropped a lot" this is a strong saying ... Still, not everyone can afford to dump a piece of bucks for a device ... and I limited myself to the $ 200 Saeko Magik Cappuccino. It's also a wow device, I'll tell you ... (y) Of course, the coffee itself doesn't grind, it doesn't count the cups, it doesn't regulate the strength, and it doesn't signal cleaning ... But COFFEE MAKES !!!!
Caprice, how can you not love Delongy! : D Why did this Brand offend you so much?
For many of my friends, the devices of this company work perfectly! And Saeko. they wrote above, left for repairs ...
Although, you know, I'm just chatting, don't be offended! I completely agree with you: the device must be diagnosed immediately after purchase. If he makes noise, it means that there are no relatives. But you need to check!
Anna Makl, Uncle Sam has already made his choice! We can only congratulate him and wish the coffee maker to work for a long time and without interruption. But you are also right - if funds allow, then a coffee machine is the best choice.
Caprice
Quote: Tortyzhka

Caprice, how can you not love Delongy! : D Why did this Brand offend you so much?
For many of my friends, the devices of this company work perfectly!
I just bought several different devices from this company and was very disappointed in them. And the last email purchase. ice cream makers of this brand just finished me off mentally. I ruffled my nerves to return and return the money back. Since then, if I see this brand, I know that the product is not worth buying. This is the only answer.
musyanya
And my delongi works and makes us happy with coffee every day! I would not have been able to wait until January 1 either .... During this time, you can try so many different coffee !!!! Uncle Sam, congratulations on your purchase anyway! Let's play with the delongues, and then buy something more serious! I hope the crisis does not attack the manufacturers, and non-toy coffee makers will be on sale ...
Caprice
Quote: Uncle Sam

The owners of the store are my patients. =)
And for some reason it seems to me that (if anything) they will change everything even a year after the purchase ...

Therefore, I remain with my humble opinion: that even Mercedes has unsuccessful models.
Well, good luck As for the unsuccessful models - Delonga has a lot of them. And, not only in coffee makers, but also in other devices. But let's leave. This is my subjective opinion. Personally, I have sworn to buy goods from this company.
Zest
Quote: carry

I also became the happy owner of the Saeko Odea coffee machine.

What is your Go or Giro?
carry
Actually it says Sporty, but it is a complete analogue of Go.
Caprice
Zest, I understand you perfectly, especially in the morning, when I can barely make out the buttons with narrow slits of my eyes That's why I bought Nespresso absolutely no bells and whistles... 19 bar, liter water tank, only two buttons. And it is simply impossible to miss sleepily with a capsule in a dyurochka: there the dyurochka is made in the form of a capsule.And you don't have to bother with coffee: you order a suitable variety / sorts by phone, and they will be brought to you directly home in a day. You don't even need to memorize the names of varieties: "so many black capsules, so many gray, so many blue, so many purple" ... and so on. just the amount to say. And even then: about once every three or four months I order. Sometimes I just say: "Order as always and pay from the same card."
Anyway, I bought a coffee maker suitable for lazy people like me
Alexandra
And I bought this in the office because of the lack of dirt and coffee residues. A tiny coffee maker, there is no dirt from it and you don't need to wash anything from the coffee grounds
coliseum71
please tell me about the ARIETE 1329 coffee maker, is it worth buying?
Seraphim
If anyone chooses a burr coffee grinder, I want to share my impression of the Braun KMM 30. My father bought himself one a couple of months ago. I immediately gave it to the service (I grind it as God will put it), a month later they returned it supposedly in working order. Now she grinds only in one position (the coarsest grind), suitable for espresso, but it is not worth the money that is asked for it. Maybe, of course, dad got the only flawed specimen, but I suspect that it was still not the best choice.
Personally, I have KRUPS GVX2, it has been working fine for over 2 years
Freken Bock
Quote: Seraphim

If anyone chooses a burr coffee grinder, I want to share my impression of the Braun KMM 30. My father bought himself one a couple of months ago. I immediately gave it to the service (I grind it as God will put it), a month later they returned it supposedly in working order. Now she grinds only in one position (the coarsest grind), suitable for espresso, but it is not worth the money that is asked for it. Maybe, of course, dad got the only flawed specimen, but I suspect that it was still not the best choice.
Personally, I have KRUPS GVX2, it has been working fine for over 2 years
I'm afraid to say no about two years, but my Brown hasn't done anything bad to me yet. And our Krups is almost twice as expensive. And also such a story. A friend of his, Brown, in a non-working condition, bought it in a store of defective equipment (there are some, it turns out) for a penny. I soldered some wires and she works for him for a sweet soul. So, go and know.
Seraphim
Quote: Freken Bock

I'm afraid to say no about two years, but my Brown hasn't done anything bad to me yet. And our Krups is almost twice as expensive.
I will gladly agree that my father was simply unlucky. Krups are really more expensive, but we have this difference of 500-700 rubles, and this is of course significant. But 1700 rubles for Braun amazes me. When I bought my Krups, it cost less. And I chose it because of the design, it is very neat and looks good near the coffee maker
Bagel
oh, thank you so much for such a systematized information, for 2 years now we have been walking around Jura with my husband and all at the last moment the toad crushes us .. and you painted everything so well we go to a new circle
Rina
Actually, I have a little dream - to replace my husband's Boshev drip coffee maker with a geyser ...
marinal
ABOUT!! I just wanted to write about my dream, but here is a tank and someone else has the same
I also dream of a coffee maker, but I still can't pay 6000-8000 UAH, so I thought that maybe there is where we are not, it is cheaper
Tanyusha
And my daughter ordered a coffee machine for her birthday, now I'm all in thought which one to buy, because I'm a complete layman in them, I like coffee only from the Turkish.
Rina
nooo ... not a coffee machine, but a geyser - the simplest ... there are such electric ones and such that they put on the stove ... Right now I'll find a picture.
Ukka
Quote: Rina72

Actually, I have a little dream - to replace my husband's Boshev drip coffee maker with a geyser ...
No, I won't trade a Turk for anything !!!
Tanyusha
Rina72 I had a geyser, I didn't like it and I got rid of it.
ukka I, too, will not exchange a Turk for anything, I will buy a coffee machine exclusively for my daughter.
Rina
yes, I would also prefer a Turk in the kitchen, but this is not the case with a glass jug. The coffee in it (in the coffee maker) is not coffee, but just a drink made from coffee beans. And I don't drink coffee, it's all for my husband ...
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Or maybe you can actually buy a good Turk and persuade him to brew coffee?
tanya123
I had an ordinary Turk and a geyser coffee maker, now a coffee machine has appeared.
Now I won't trade my coffee machine for anything.
Rina
Tan, for this you need (at least desirable) to be a coffee lover ...

So, that's it ... I stop suffering and go to sleep. And I wish everyone good night ...
Ukka
I'm a coffee addict ....
I tried coffee from a coffee machine, but I like it more from a Turk (I don't impose my opinion on anyone). Well cooked is a miracle !!! I want to buy a sand tray for it .... Most likely, I will order it somewhere.

Rina72, once in my youth, my medical friends made me a Turk as a gift from this glass, tempered glass, well, they also mix reagents in it. ugh, I forgot ...
The thing was interesting, but you can't use it on gas, only on electric pancakes. Burst ...
Tanyusha
ukka for myself looking at such devices
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Ukka
Quote: tanya1962

ukka for myself looking at such devices

tanya1962, this is the LASTING !!!
And a reference?
Tanyusha
ukka catch the link:
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Panevg1943
I have a Bosch espresso machine with a cappuccinatore. I am very satisfied. I am fond of strong coffee, but lately I have been dissatisfied with the quality of coffee beans (faint smell and taste are not the same). I tried a lot of varieties. Maybe someone will advise something (in the sense of where and which one is better on sale).
prascovia
... I tried a lot of varieties. Maybe someone will advise something (in the sense of where and which one is better on sale).
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I have been using Lavazza espresso for 5-7 years and my car is a kenwood espresso, I am very pleased with the taste and smell. Lavazza has many varieties of coffee.
lina
About coffee ... I have a coffee machine Bosch, a good animal Since I am a drug addict, addicted to caffeine ... I really feel bad if I don't drink coffee on time ukka, whether in a berghof, or in a zepter, or in something similar, I saw a turtle with a tray for sand.
kleskox35
And my friend (knows my passion for coffee!) Brought me a coffee filter from Vietnam, which is simple but works well !! And to him a pack of coffee, take this eye out! Panevg1943 look for it! If there is something stronger and more aromatic, then I have not yet come across one .... it's called sapa coffee

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Tanyusha
kleskox35, but I really didn't like Vietnamese coffee, I mostly buy Yemeni, Ethiopia and Kenya, if I can buy green beans, I fry myself.
marinal
Quote: tanya123

I had an ordinary Turk and a geyser coffee maker, now a coffee machine has appeared.
Now I won't trade my coffee machine for anything.

What is your coffee machine ?? because I also fall behind the coffee machine but have not yet decided for what
kleskox35
tanya1962, I agree the taste is not for everyone, but I don’t drink coffee without milk ... and you can drink Vietnamese only with milk, the Vietnamese generally drink it with condensed milk! I really don't understand the taste of sweet coffee, for me it's a translation of the product ... But I really like their brewing press, it's simple, quick and easy to clean! And the coffee is good too ..
Panevg1943
Quote: tanya1962

Panevg1943 Well, how do you like coffee from a geyser coffee maker?
Tanya, I had a carob Bosch. Began to extract bad coffee. Water began to accumulate in the horn, and the other day I passed it. Before that, there was an American Universal double: drip and carob. Then we did not have water softeners yet, and it quickly became covered with scale inside and nothing helped. The coffee in both was not bad, with a chiffchaff. About drip - only for brewing tea. The geyser was praised by my friend, and I decided to experiment. Spe I specially bought the smallest one: for 2 portions of 40 ml. The coffee turns out to be stronger than in my carob. There is no coffee smell in either one or this one. Lately, aromatic coffee has not been produced in the Turk either.

IRR... I'm joking. She's a crazy deviceaholic herself. The husband eats a little all his life, the granddaughter goes crazy so as not to eat too much, and I have to go on a diet for a long time. I love to cook, but what I cook is always abundant. Devices full house and apartment. I will not start new ones, but (just in case) you have to be aware of.

Tanyusha
Panevg1943 I just didn’t like the coffee from the geyser coffee maker and I got rid of it (gave it to good hands), I wanted to know your opinion, am I the only one who is fussy or not. Now my daughter asks for a coffee maker with a cappuccino maker for her birthday, but I don't have a heart for coffee makers and I don’t know how to dissuade her so as not to be offended.

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