Panevg1943
Quote: tanya1962

Now my daughter asks for a coffee maker with a cappuccino maker for her birthday, but I don't have a heart for coffee makers and I don’t know how to dissuade her so as not to be offended.
Tanya, a geyser coffee maker is quite inexpensive compared to a carob (let it be), and the latter does not form such a dense tablet as a geyser one (even under running water it does not completely disintegrate). This suggests that coffee is not completely extracted in the carob, although the stated pressure is 15 bar, and this, you will agree completely
a lot. It can be seen that the pressure does not correspond to the declared one. And this is all too often. Many people complain. IMHO carob mainly suits those who are not picky about coffee and had nothing to do with real coffee before purchasing it. That coffee, which was obtained the first few times, still draws on the rating "good with a minus", and then just slops (I put the same amount of coffee -3.5 tsp with a hump of 80 ml of water). I will ask my friends to bring good coffee from Italy. In boutiques I will not buy any more, such a falsification for rather big money. Tanya, do you get aromatic coffee when brewing in a Turk or not? The smell of coffee, which in the old days stood in Eliseevsky and in the confectionery on Pushkinskaya, is not forgotten. I once drank coffee imported from Tanzania. What can I say about the fortress, and about the spirit ... And in Italy you can enjoy not only local sights, but also scanty portions of real espresso. If your daughter loves cappuccino, then the cappuccino maker can be purchased separately. I dissuade her unequivocally.
Alexandra
Tanya,

My Saeko cappuccino maker is just lying around at home. Start rinsing the straw much more than the joy of using it - I only use the Aerochchino Plus jug

This is an excellent cappuccino maker with a separate jug, electric, whips hot and cold milk foam, sold by Nespresso.
Panevg1943
Quote: kolynusha

I, too, dream of a coffee machine, and to have everything in it at once.
Kolynusha, I just noticed that you and Tanya's daughter are dreaming about different things: she is about a coffee maker, and you swung at a coffee machine.
Zest
Quote: kolynusha

So I want not only us, but also for us to conjure.

I am very happy with my coffee machine. In the mornings, when you float into the kitchen with your eyes half-closed, ohhh, how you don't want to mess with the Turks. Moreover, I know 100% that my coffee will run away. I'd rather just press one button and get a cup of aromatic coffee without any problems. After all, it's not at all a fact that I would have cooked him better when sleeping
kolynusha
Zest, I sleep and see when I, too, press the cherished button, have mercy, do not tease, otherwise I will choke on saliva.
k.alena
Quote: kolynusha

Zest, I sleep and see when I, too, press the cherished button, have mercy, do not tease, otherwise I will choke on my saliva.
Both I and I dream of a coffee machine. These are plans for the distant future. I started with a drip coffee maker (the one that you pour coffee into the filter at the top, and pour it into the jug below), then switched to the Roventa espresso machine, a couple of years later I reached the 15-bar Gadzhia carob (I still have it). Now I'm dreaming of a fully automatic machine.
Tanyusha
k.alena due to the fact that I had a question about buying a coffee machine, I read a lot of all kinds of information on this issue, and so coffee gourmets do not recognize coffee from a coffee machine, but your Gadzhia is very much praised, so I faced a choice what to take.
Tanyusha
Quote: Panevg1943

Kolynusha, I just noticed that you and Tanya's daughter are dreaming about different things: she is about a coffee maker, and you swung at a coffee machine.

Panevg1943 I probably put it wrong, my daughter wants a coffee machine
k.alena
Quote: tanya1962

k.alena due to the fact that I had a question about buying a coffee machine, I re-read a lot of information on this issue, and so coffee gourmets do not recognize coffee from a coffee machine, but your Gadzhia is very much praised, so I faced a choice what to take.
Maybe I got an unsuccessful copy, or maybe this is the norm for coffee makers, but I am annoyed by decent dripping after the coffee is brewed and I took the cup. The tray under the cup fills up fairly quickly with water and coffee residues. But it did not start from the first day. During the year of the warranty, I took her to the service 2 times to replace the valve. When the warranty was over, I unrolled it myself (well, with the aim of washing and cleaning too). I did not find any valve there. A spring and a ball and that's it. Now I’m thinking .... something and changed it right with lightning speed, in my presence (but I didn’t see the part itself, and I didn’t look right under my arms). After my procedures (untwisted, cleaned everything, collected) it drips less. But after a week or two the same thing
I don’t consider myself a gourmet, but I also don’t like coffee from vending machines (those in supermarkets). And I drink it not only because I like the taste, but also because without it I can't wake up at all
Maybe if I had used a coffee machine, I would not have dreamed of it. In terms of price, the difference is significantly greater than the difference in functionality. That is, the difference is naturally large, but it does not bother me to cook in mine either.
Lika
Quote: k.alena

Maybe I got an unsuccessful copy, or maybe this is the norm for coffee makers, but I am annoyed by decent dripping after the coffee is brewed and I took the cup. The tray under the cup fills up fairly quickly with water and coffee residues.
Here, she told me about mine. But we did not go to the service, I wipe it with a napkin or leave the cup longer, once a week I remove the grate and wipe the tray. But a coffee maker is a morning option, when you can't see yourself in the mirror, but I bought myself a copper one for myself or use a press. A large green amphibian is strangling onto the coffee machine. Maybe after the death of this coffee maker (Roventa 15 bar) I'll think about it ...
lina
I have a Bosch coffee machine (Bosch - but because there were only 2 coffee machines in the city, 1 this Bosch, 1 Krups, but it wouldn't fit ...). Once they asked if I was tired of her - she answered "and you don't get bored with a hairdryer, iron, kettle, refrigerator? A coffee machine in the same row is an essential item!" A coffee girl, addicted to caffeine .... I will not dare to call myself a gourmet. I threw out unwanted grains, because I could not drink. aroma - when I leave the bathroom, I immediately smell whether the coffee is ready or not. Who said that you can't wake up without coffee? On the contrary, it tends to sleep after a dose ...

Quote: kolynusha

tanya1962, I'm afraid I won't be able to dissuade my daughter. I, too, dream of a coffee machine, and to have everything in it at once. And no one will dissuade me. It is necessary to conjure with a Turk, with a separate cappuccinator too. And here I pressed the button and they did everything for you.
I don't drink cappuccino at all. but for the sake of interest I tried to cook it, and I did it for the guests. perhaps my coffee machine has the wrong cappuccino maker or, as it is unnecessary, has not mastered it well, but warm up, froth milk, rinse. Be careful, because the steam is hot (and if you are asleep ... well, then you will definitely wake up if you get scalded). Rinse immediately, I have a bad idea of ​​washing off the boiled cold milk from this tube. That is, you get an espresso after pressing two buttons (turn on and brew), but a cappuccino ... think, do you need it in the morning? or only espresso in the morning?
Alexandra
Lina, here I have a dislike for a cappuccinatore from a coffee machine. He's not worth all the fuss. Good for bars and offices. when the tube is constantly used and it is not necessary to wash the milk from the milk, so as not to dry out
kolynusha
Lina, Alexandra, about the cappuccino maker, of course. If it is included, then let it be, but I will not focus on it. My task is complicated by the fact that I want a built-in coffee machine, but there the choice is not great. But I do not know from the reviews whether they are inferior to stand-alone ones or not. Oh, now Turkish lovers are throwing slippers at me.
Panevg1943
And I like more and more coffee from my baby geyser coffee maker. In a few days, yuzanya and the amount of coffee was determined (strength), and with varieties, and with the moment when the coffee is ready. Even the smell appeared, which I have been striving for from all the coffee machines for a long time. Now I want a Mukka geyser coffee maker (the so-called "ladybug" among the people), in which a thick cappuccino is obtained and there is no need to rinse the tube, since the latter is not there, but there is a jug for milk. You want a cappuccino, you just want a coffee with milk. The granddaughter loves this.
Lina is right. For me, too, a cup of coffee in the late hours has a soporific effect.
zvezda
I have a built-in cappuccino maker and for those who want a normal cappuccino from KM, it is important to observe two conditions:
milk must be cold
fat content - not less than 2.5%
and it is easy to wash the tube in the PMM, and I adapted with my hands using a wooden skewer for barbecue, by the way I also clean the grill with it. I can’t imagine life without coffee .... now the car is being repaired (for the 4th month already), so I started having soluble heartburn. And I have such a machine
Choosing a coffee maker
lina
Quote: zvezda

I can’t imagine life without coffee .... now the car is being repaired (for the 4th month already), so I started having soluble heartburn.
so there are Turks, French press and just mugs with strainers)))
Tanyusha
And I, on the contrary, need a cappuccino maker, I found Siemens TK 58001 with an auto cappuccino maker, but I don’t know everyone advises Saeco, Jura, Gaggia, in general I’ll go to Gorbushka to watch it live.
Alexandra
Quote: Panevg1943

Now I want a Mukka geyser coffee maker (the so-called "ladybug" among the people), in which a thick cappuccino is obtained and there is no need to rinse the tube, since the latter is not there, but there is a jug for milk. You want a cappuccino, you just want a coffee with milk.

Panevg1943,

Can I ask (either here or in Temka about coffee makers) to tell you the principle of making cappuccino in this very geyser cow? I have a geyser, even of the same company, but not for cappuccino - it turns out the coffee is completely tasteless. And how to make such a cappuccino - I don't understand ... The Internet also did not enlighten.
kolynusha
Does anyone have a built-in coffee machine? Which company is better, and does the taste of coffee differ from a stand-alone one? Maybe your friends have?
zvezda
My friend Siemens is sooooo happy.
Panevg1943
Quote: Alexandra

Panevg1943,
Can I ask you to tell me the principle of making cappuccino in this very geyser lady? I have a geyser, even of the same company, but not for cappuccino - it turns out the coffee is completely tasteless. And how to make such a cappuccino - I don't understand ... The Internet also did not enlighten.
Alexandra, read here: 🔗 and here: 🔗

Only your cappuccino won't work. You can, of course, buy a separate cappuccinatore jug in the same place. But why your espresso turns out to be tasteless, I don't know. Maybe you don't put in too much coffee or not? I, like, still perfectly understand the taste of coffee, and my "baby" did not disappoint me. Above I wrote that the coffee is strong, rich and even became perfumed. I read somewhere that through a geyser coffee maker you need to drive coffee several times, and only then will the taste appear. Maybe you stopped after the first experience? Today my daughter came and I made her coffee. She really liked it and she is a coffee lover. For her, Lavazza Rossa was brewed - this is her favorite coffee. I myself love the Yemeni mocha. Success!
Shl By the way, only the Mukka model is called a "cow" (there are specks on it, like a cow's skin), and not all geyser coffee makers.
Alexandra
Panevg1943

Thanks, I'll go read it. What is impossible in mine is understandable, in principle I did not understand where to pour milk there

I just poured the red lavazza there. I cooked it 2 times. The nasty taste turned out, bitter and rough in taste. It's the same in a coffee machine and in a Turk - a completely different matter. Apparently, she has not mastered the secret.
Tanyusha
In general, I will go tomorrow, that is, today I will watch the Spidem My Coffee RS coffee machine, in terms of functions it fits, but I want to see and touch it with my own eyes.
zvezda
Quote: tanya1962

In general, I will go tomorrow, that is, today I will watch the Spidem My Coffee RS coffee machine, in terms of functions it fits, but I want to see and touch it with my own eyes.
There's only one drawback ...you cannot use ground coffee, but if this is not important, then the price corresponds to the functions. And once you go, you can look at models with automatic cleaning, which is a very convenient function, otherwise in Italian CMs this is a weak point, as well as in all CMs, because you have to clean it once every 2-3 months.
kolynusha
zvezda , do you have a coffee machine? Your friend probably treated you to coffee. How do you compare?
zvezda
Quote: kolynusha

zvezda , do you have a coffee machine? Your friend probably treated you to coffee. How do you compare?
I already have my second CM. I am a patient with technology .... (such a diagnosis) and a terrible coffee man, so I picked up the car. so that everything would be ... there was still advertising on her ... Prima donna-cappuccino by pressing the bottom button ... here I have itChoosing a coffee makerbut now under repair: (already the fourth month, waiting for details.
zvezda
Here it is, though not very visible ...Choosing a coffee maker
she makes three kinds of coffee at the touch of a button
Choosing a coffee maker
marinal
The machine is certainly good, but the price cannot be seen as your ears
kolynusha
zvezda , well, the most important thing. How does a friend's coffee taste? What confuses me about built-in KM is that there are no brands such as Gaggia, Saeco, Spidem, Rotel, Jura among them. Built-in ones are represented by AEG Electrolux, Miele, NEFF, Siemens. I think someone specializes in embedding, while someone does not release them at all.

zvezda
Quote: kolynusha

zvezda , well, the most important thing. How does a friend's coffee taste? What confuses me about built-in KM is that there are no brands such as Gaggia, Saeco, Spidem, Rotel, Jura among them. Built-in ones are represented by AEG Electrolux, Miele, NEFF, Siemens. I think someone specializes in embedding, and someone does not release them at all.
AAAAA I did not immediately understand that you are talking about the installation .... in my typewriter it is better (I just drink more often with milk) and the expresso is wonderful !!! Why aren't these firms ?? Jura is. But Siemens is a great brand, what confuses you? I don't like their cappuccinatore (in built-in installations) Do you want a water connection? This was the main thing for us.
kolynusha
Quote: zvezda

Jura is there.
I have never met.
I have nothing against Siemens. I am still looking closely, I have not seriously dealt with this issue yet.
I correctly understood that espresso is not inferior in taste, but what is worse with milk?
I also want it to be connected, but again I do not know if it can be connected to the filter or only to the water supply (well, not filtered). How is it connected?
zvezda
Unfortunately, I have no connection .... they have not released such machines yet .... It's just that all the cars are not automatic. They make it differently with a cappuccinatore, and I liked the expresso even more than mine. See what beauty I have found for you 🔗
kolynusha
zvezda , thanks, you still need to read the forums. But the fact that tastes better, oh, how encouraged. Now I will not doubt the installation.
Tanyusha
kolynusha I don’t know how to install Siemens, they just didn’t recommend a stand-alone machine to me, and on the ixbt forum people are not happy with Siemens and Bosch.
I went and looked at Spidem My Coffee RS, a normal machine for little money, and the girl explained and showed everything very competently to me, probably I'll stop at it.
kolynusha
tanya1962 , yeah, and I read ixbt. Then tell us how your daughter will appreciate the gift, you put in so much effort to please.
Tanyusha
Today we went to Gorbushka with our daughters, in general, she refused a coffee machine and I am very happy about that, I'd rather make coffee in a turkey. And as a gift we bought a Pentax SLR digital camera.
kolynusha
Such a camera is also a great gift.
tanya1962, and she completely abandoned the idea with a coffee machine, or just today the fotik outweighed, and will return to the coffee machine on the trail. D.R.?
Tanyusha
kolynusha I think she won't be back, because she only drinks coffee on weekends and has enough tools to make cappuccino.
Lubasha
Help me figure out who can. I bought a geyser coffee maker at a flea market, still Soviet. I wanted something cheaper. I just can't make coffee in it. I put it on a high heat, on a small one, change the degree of grinding of coffee - both coarser and smaller. But when boiling, water does not pass into the upper tank, even though weeping. The coffee sticks to the top mesh and, as I understand it, prevents water from getting there. So water is boiling in the lower one, but it doesn't want to get upstairs in any way: (I tried to brew tea in it, now I succeed in making tea, but I can't get coffee. and on the big - well, I just can't beat her, I don't understand what the problem is.The device seems to be unpretentious, but does not want to work. Can anyone have this monster in action ?? Teach me please ...
Oksanalar
What do you think is better than Jura or Saeco?
Alexandra
One level, a matter of taste.
Lubasha
Panevg1943, natasic2466 thanks for the answers. Natasic2466, I have the same coffee maker. I grind coffee with an old Soviet coffee grinder, it doesn't work fine there. The water is boiling, the machine is bubbling, steam passes through the central pipe, but there is no coffee in the upper tank. I will continue to experiment, buy cheaper coffee, otherwise it’s a pity to pick out a good one uselessly. Now I will try to experiment with fire (on slow, medium and strong) Even for the sake of the principle
Alexandra
Panevg1943 Well, at least explain to me, please, how long does it take for 6 cups of brewed coffee to go into the upper tank ??? And is it normal that it comes out as thin as the thinnest thread in a trickle ???
Leska
Crochet
For example, for espresso, I don't like cappuccino
Thanks for the compliments . I also really love espresso, but now it's only allowed to sniff it. A cappuccino with decaffeinated coffee, at least a little foamy aroma, will raise the tone. Yesterday the little thing was tested - I had to thoroughly wash the previously cleaned plate 2 times, I tried to unwind it for another 5 minutes for washing (even removing the valve and wearing rubber gloves), but as a result we became friends. One inconvenience - the cat is terribly afraid of the sound of readiness and while he enters the kitchen with caution
Panevg1943
Quote: Leska

For another 5 minutes I tried to unwind it for flushing (even removing the valve and wearing rubber gloves)
Leska, I am glad that our joint efforts have convinced you, and, most importantly, you are not disappointed. You only need to spin the cooled coffee maker, and the valve will not need to be removed. While the coffee maker is hot, there is still residual pressure, so it is difficult to spin. Yes, you yourself, probably, now understand everything. With your purchase!
VANYA 2705
I need instructions for the ufesa espresso ce 7455 coffee maker, on your forum on January 20, 2008 you gave the user Tashenka the same information help me.
Tanyusha
Aleksandra, Krosh is Shpilka from her topic transferred our correspondence. Alexander, I have not seen such coffee, where you can buy it.
Crochet
Alexandra
Thank you ! How long have you had such a coffee grinder? Are you satisfied with her work?
Alexandra
Tiny,

I don't remember exactly how long my coffee grinder was, a year and a half or two.

She has only one "but" - she does not grind into dust, as is necessary for Turkish coffee. Therefore, at one time, my electric Turkish coffee maker moved to the office, where at least occasionally someone brings from a trip to Turkey real ground Turkish coffee Mehmet Effendi. Alas, with no other, coarser grind, real Turkish coffee does not work.

But for everything else - espresso, French press, filtered coffee - grinds great.
It seems like you can grind grain and spices in it - but I so appreciate the clean smell of freshly ground coffee that I just don't want to "dirty" the coffee grinder with anything else.

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