Second
And who cleans the coffee machine from scale with what. I used to clean the coffee maker with citric acid every six months. But here the boiler may be made of aluminum, but they say that in this case it is impossible. Vinegar is also prohibited, it is written in the instructions. The tool that is recommended for cleaning costs from 10 cu. e. for 1 time. And my car showed that it was necessary to carry out decalcification after 40 days. I understand that there is just a counter there. Or can you spit on this decalcification and just rinse with filtered water? Machine Gaggia Synhrony Compact Digital.




INCLUDE - solid sediment on the inner walls of dishes (kettles, pots, etc.), formed as a result of repeated heating and boiling of water. Due to the low thermal conductivity of scale, the water in a scaled cookware heats up slowly, and the walls of the cookware isolated from the water with a layer of scale heat up to high temperatures, which leads to iron oxidation and rapid burnout of the cookware.

For descaling, they produce, for example, "Anti-scale" powder. For descaling, you can also use vinegar essence (1 part vinegar to 5-6 parts water). Water with vinegar essence is poured into a dish with scale, heated to 60-70 ° C for 20-30 minutes. After descaling, the dishes must be thoroughly rinsed with water.
lina
Second, Boshevsky descaling agents cost 10ye for 4 or 6 times. There are also cheaper ones, in white and blue packaging. You have not indicated the city - there are always such funds in Eldorado.
Cake
Sorry to interfere in such a heated discussion of true coffee lovers, but I have a very serious question, so I interrupt you.

There is an electric Saeko Magik Cappuccino (carob) coffee maker. It has been working daily for a year and a half. Recently, it has been buzzing a lot when pouring coffee into a cup. I am suspicious that the scale is to blame. I have a 3-stage filter under the sink, the coffee maker is only filled with purified water, but watching the electric kettle, I see that the white deposit on the walls still has to be washed off from time to time. And what do you do with such coffee makers? I have a bad idea of ​​the intricacies of their device and I have no idea - will the scale interfere with the operation of the device? If so, how to get rid of it? Are there any special descaling products? Who has used which ones for this type of coffee maker?
k.alena
As far as I know, there are special equipment. But it's better to take it to the service center, they will do everything there
Cake
Yeah, where else can you find this service center in our Shishmandeevka?

Does anyone know other descaling solutions?
Kazak
Quote: Tortyzhka

Does anyone know other descaling solutions?

Alkalis or cystola are used for scale. for example

- Citric acid (I usually throw a teaspoon for 3 liters and boil for 5 minutes. The more lmonic acid swell, the faster the scale will dissolve)
- Tomato paste (no matter how much it is, depends on the concentration, but not less than a teaspoon)
- Buy special branded "tinctures" - the same citric acid, but already diluted in water.
- Baking soda

IMHO - if after boiling white bloom remains - it's time to change the water filter. After boiling, if the water is allowed to settle, denser water will be visually visible below. The people call her - dead (the one from fairy tales). Do not drink it - you will become a kid.
Second
I have already asked this question. If the boiler is not aluminum, then citric acid can be used. I put 1.5 teaspoons in the hopper and run it through the system. Then he washed the bunker and passed fresh water. I did it once every half a year. In addition, there is the recommended Saeco Entkalker tool.
Cake
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This is my coffee maker.I don't know what kind of boiler she has. How long it takes to boil a citric acid solution, I don't know either. Drinking coffee with tomato paste) in case / if I can’t rinse it off or it will stick tightly in the insides) - I don’t really want to either ... It turns out that you need to look for a special remedy ...
Kazak
Quote: Tortyzhka
How long it takes to boil a citric acid solution, I also don't know. Drinking coffee with tomato paste) in case /, if I can't rinse it off or it will stick tightly in the insides) - I don't really want to either ... It turns out that you need to look for a special remedy ...

Acid or alkali must be dissolved in water (added to water), not "dry"
I add more to the cold - until boiling. It can be boiled. As you wish.

It is necessary to boil until all the scale dissolves or leaves the walls. If there is a lot of scale - usually 3-4 times with a complete drain of water and pouring a new portion of acid or alkali (optional). Taking into account the fact that scale has been deposited on all the tubes and hoses, it is not easy to drain the water by turning the device over, namely through the "nose".

In addition, many devices have a descaling mode. (Used also - with acid or alkali added to water)

PS: I really do not recommend food vinegar - the smell is still the one that is during cooking, that after - you will have to rinse for a long time.
kolynusha

In addition to citric acid, the branded product contains other components that compensate for the negative effects of lemon. Second correctly wrote that if the boiler is not aluminum, then you can just use a lemon. It is clear that one does not want to overpay for firms. Wed-in. What if saving 300 rubles will lead to a breakdown of the coffee maker? Alin, show your link here 🔗, there should know which boiler.
If a gray coating, then your water is hard. Did you pick up a filter for hard water? When the filter runs out, buy for hard water. Although there is such water that filters cannot cope.
Kazak

Users of aluminum coffee makers often have a problem (if not used regularly) - the formation of a white build-up in the water compartment. An example of photos of this "extraterrestrial" life form came across to me in the internet - img441.imageshack.us/img441/36/bialettiimg1906.jpg

The solution to this problem is the same as for scale, only you do not need to boil - fill it with a solution of food vinegar dissolved in water (such a tautology came out!), For example, for 30 minutes. Then thoroughly rinse and wipe. The reason for the formation is moisture. it is necessary to wipe thoroughly dry after use, then aluminum oxides are not terrible, or use a coffee maker daily
By the way, according to some data, it is this white bloom that is to blame for cirrhosis of the liver.

By the way, bialetti recommends not pressing the coffee to achieve the right taste. From personal experience - it all depends on the variety. Signature illi moka - for geyser coffee makers (medium-coarse grinding), in fact, it is better not to press.

For most machines, as far as I know, there are also recommendations for grinding and filling the hopper - after all, they are designed for the specified characteristics.
kolynusha
Alin, my previous post does not contain my personal assumptions, these are all general excerpts from ixbt, I trust this source, there are many intelligent people there.
Second
Personally, my instructions say that in no case should you use vinegar.
Kazak
Quote: Second

Personally, my instructions say that in no case should you use vinegar.

To understand this, you need to know what material the water tank is made of (so as not to turn black, etc.).
Most importantly, diluted vinegar (for example, a teaspoon per liter), but not concentrated, is possible.
And as I wrote above - when boiling such a vinegar solution, the smell is for real "gourmets", after boiling it is difficult to get rid of it.
But without boiling, in principle, it is possible - but then you need to "manually" wipe the surfaces with scale.
For example, in a washing machine, once a year I tear off the cleaning by pouring soda into the powder compartment.You can also dilute citric acid (3 liters 1 teaspoon) - but there is a chance that the drum will darken. I clean the thermal pot only with citric acid - a whole pack for 2 liters. I bring it to a boil, wait 5 minutes, pour out half through the spout (I don’t have enough patience for more), then pour clean water, boil it, drain everything, and only then use it. With a rag dipped in a water solution of food vinegar (I'm even afraid to write just vinegar - suddenly someone doesn't understand) - it's good to remove scale from the iron (heated)

Do not forget - the instructions are literally translated, but they are not written for Soviet people - like, do not dry the cat in the microwave. Gyy

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PS Did you know that the distinctive character of capitalism is wearing parts. I won't be surprised that boilers will be made of plastic too.
Cake
Now I know how and how to descale all household appliances except my own carob coffee makers
Okay, I'll shake Saeko's service
RLM
I will dispel your myths about citric and acetic acid and all other means based on them. Since at one time I had to devote a lot of time to this issue.

Citric acid helps the limescale to loosen from the surface but does not dissolve it, which leads to blockage of the coffee machine ducts. After 2-3 cleanings, this can lead to damage to the boiler or pump.

Acetic acid corrodes plastic (toxicity), leaves a smell, and works just like citric acid.

For myself and my clients, I found a way out, sulfamic acid-based products. It converts lime deposits into a saline solution, dissolves them completely.

Also, do not trust reusable products, since salt deposits are inevitable, and they destroy nickel-plated surfaces.

and for clarity, you can watch the promotional video with the Experiment

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Margit
Today I decided to decalce the coffee machine, it’s probably too early, only a month has passed since the day you bought the car, but it was unbearable to check for limescale .. The set included a bottle with a special agent, and I used it. Decalcification turns out to be easy to carry out, but at first I was afraid! I tried the solution on my tongue, the taste of pure citric acid. I have bottles of CILLIT solution. He has a completely different taste, I read, in the composition of sulfamic acid 5-15% and oxalic acid. In the instructions for Delongi it is written that it is forbidden to use products based on sulfa and vinegar, in this case the right to a guarantee is lost. In the store, when choosing a cleaner for the Delongi coffee machine, I drew attention to the descaling agent for Melitta coffee machines. On the box (4 tablets included) with the product, the composition is written: 100% citric acid. One 40-gram tablet. So I thought what could mean using citric acid for decalcification.
Tanyusha
I, too, have already done decalcification, but the machine itself asked for it after 2.5 months of intensive use. I bought such a product in MVideo, such a bottle is designed for 4 cleanings. Means and methods of decalcification, descaling
Margit
I also saw these, but only in the online store MVideo. I'll have to stop by to buy, everything is better than pure citric acid!
insava
Today is an important stage in the life of my coffee machine - the first decalcification
Although I expected this moment later (in operation since March 2, i.e. 3 weeks in total), but she herself asked with a wink
I blame it on the quality of the water - initially very hard, but I run it through the Britt jug filter
Maybe it makes sense to use bottled, although "who knows what is being poured into bottles there"
Well, now she spoke in verse
sazalexter
insava In modern coffee machines, the decalcification time is programmed. There are usually no lime sensors there.
insava
That is, just "by the number of cups brewed", did I understand correctly? :
sazalexter
insava Yes by the number of cups and some by the volume of water and cups.
insava
Thank you, explained, responded
Already cleaned - scary for the first time - but nothing seems to be done
mowgli
And did anyone else clean the coffee machine with a lemon?
Annushka85
Quote: sazalexter
In modern coffee machines, the decalcification time is programmed. There are usually no lime sensors there.
There are no sensors, but the water hardness can be set, we only fill the coffee machine with water from the aquaphor filter, so we set the minimum hardness, our machine asks for cleaning every six months.

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