Kitchen machine Kenwood (2)

[Kolich]

KolichAs far as I know, Kenwood does not have a dicing tool. Such a nozzle goes, it seems, to a Bosch combine.
And about buying in Germany - I thought about it. In Ukraine, KM070 costs 10,000 hryvnia. This is 40,000 rubles (if I'm not confusing anything). On one of the Austrian sites I saw it for 1199 euros, which is already 48,000 rubles. Is it really much cheaper in Germany? How much did it cost you, if not a secret? I think that somewhere within 40,000 rubles it will turn out.
By the way, today, on the Internet, I tried to find the phone number of the Kenwood representative office in Russia, in order to clarify when these cars will appear. And what? Different sites have different phones and none of them "is not serviced?" Kenwood representative office and said that they would call me back and answer me, but they didn’t give me their phone number. What's going on? I don’t understand anything. Maybe someone knows?

what's happening?
a very simple and banal answer, THIS IS RASHKA, few people love her, since the laws and most importantly customs are just N * lans ...
so it's not a fact that km070 will get to us here, but about Kenwood, I wrote that I got up about 940 euros along with delivery to me, there were three parcels, one of them had additional attachments ... bring, since this is the European Union ...
and you will wait for years for an answer from a cute girl)

And I just liked the multi-shredder. True, I ground the sand into powder, grass = dill, parsley, berries with cottage cheese - if you don't need a lot, then. Are you interested in croutons, do you constantly take off the blender to shake it? I need 2 minutes to put it, something is hardly inserted, share a secret.

Yes, I constantly remove and shake so that the ground croutons sink to the knife and a funnel can form. I immediately pour out small portions of ground crackers (somewhere at the level of 300-400 ml) and load a new portion. Of course, the processor is faster and more convenient, but I don't want to follow it to another room, I have adapted to do it like this. And I used to "put on" the blender with difficulty, over time you get used to it and you do it with your eyes closed.

[Lyi]

Lyi
Today I tried a meat grinder from Ken (nozzle) everything is perfect and amazing, the only thing I noticed is that when the tip of the nozzle itself worked, the backlash is a little barely noticeable, but I think this is all due to the fact that it does not completely sit in the nest (it seems to me), although the idea of ​​the whole village and normally entrenched ..... in general grinds only on the way! the only thing is when you start scrolling a juicy type of onion, an infection sprays into the minced meat, you need to substitute something high, absolutely no complaints, can you have something with a nozzle? twisted at 4 speeds.
Today I put a blender (the one that is metal for 1.5 liters) and decided to do it with Musya's wife from kiwi and banana, so everything was perfectly just done, if my memory serves me at 3-4 speeds, literally in 10-20 seconds, I didn't measure exactly , everything just whipped up perfectly !!!! the only thing I got was 2 slices of kiwi, not chopped ... for the whole mass somewhere in 700 grams ...
Sobsno I think there is either a defect in your attachment, or something you are doing wrong?

PS:
by the way, please tell me the recipe for cutlets with boiled egg (mmmm .... the taste of childhood from kindergarten))), if anyone knows, nowhere else I can try such more ...

[this is all due to the fact that she does not sit in the nest to the end]

this is all due to the fact that she does not sit in the nest to the end
I understand that this is the case for all models, but this does not affect the quality of work. To reduce the amount of spray, the speed is lower, I can handle it in the second, but not fast, but there is also less spray.

[PS:]

I think there is either a defect in your attachment, or is there something you are doing wrong?

PS:
by the way, please tell me the recipe for cutlets with boiled egg (mmmm .... the taste of childhood from kindergarten))), if anyone knows, nowhere else I can try such more ...

Kolich!
Most likely there is a defect. : pardon: Yesterday I tried to grind tomatoes for borscht. I cut it finely, slightly larger than for a salad, put everything in a blender, it turned out to be about half a glass of a blender, turned it on for 1, waited 5 minutes uselessly. Began to take turns loading everything into the chopper from the hand blender.
In general, the blender worked for me and spun the funnel put to it only when there were only 3 small slices of tomato left, I added another handful of chopped tomatoes, everything was tip-top. But since I had already managed to grind the tomatoes, the experiment did not work out completely. Although there are shifts, if the problem is only to first scroll 2-3 slices of a tomato, strawberry or others, then this can be solved, you can adapt to this. But hard things, even one crouton refused to grind.
I do zrazy like this.
From the usual homemade (beef or pork, or chicken, or all together) cutlet (that is, with all the additives or bread or oatmeal or potatoes) minced meat, such as you like, make a cake, put a spoonful of chopped boiled egg inside (I also add fried mushrooms and cheese) + 10 grams of butter
Make a cutlet shape and fry. In general, there are recipes for all occasions here, type in the "find" zrazy or something else and get a lot of recipes. It remains only to choose.
Regarding the meat grinder attachment. I already explained that I was comparing the Ken meat grinder attachment to the Kenwood meat grinder, free standing. Their top is completely identical. Works well there and there. But when it stands alone on its massive stand, it is more stable and therefore gains in performance. Therefore, I said, then if the price is the same (as I had), then it is better to take a detached one. I took a freestanding one for myself and now I can use it separately or screwing it over to Ken.

In addition.
I also want to write about the multi-shredder (cups). He is also not bad and even very good. I wrote that powdered sugar and nuts grind in 1-2 minutes.
But I don't use it anywhere else, as there are other bells and whistles (a mill, etc.). So our eternal toad immediately wakes up and says that I could completely do without this device. Well at least this toad wakes up after the device is purchased.
Therefore, I ask you to carefully read my posts and look at the attachments in relation to what YOU have in stock.

[Lyi]

Lyi
thanks for answers.
but I really want to know, so what's the difference between a freestanding ken grinder and a ken attachment, just interest, is it stable that there is no backlash? or? I just already wrote if you do not apply to the small backlash of this meat grinder, everything is okay, to be honest I was surprised by its scrolling power, but about the blender the only assumption still arose, maybe you have an old model of it, the one with a transparent glass?

[Kolich]

Kolich, I also have a freestanding Kenwood meat grinder bought before KM, and the difference in them is significant, since the meat grinder is indisputably more powerful. In the CM we adjust the speed ourselves, but here you just turn on the button and it already works at a certain high speed, there is no backlash (but for me it doesn't matter at all, it doesn't affect the work), it doesn't spray anything at all. But I already wrote above, I often use the attachment, because the CM is on the table in front of me, and I have to go for the meat grinder. BUT, when large volumes of meat are required to grind (for example, every year we buy a young bull in the fall, weighing a little more than 100 kg), then we get a meat grinder and grind the meat at a time, and I would not use CM on such volumes, it will burn nafig.

[Kolich!]

you have an old model of it, the one with a transparent glass?

Kolich!
So it is, probably, the glass is transparent. But I will still try to find a common language with him, at least for soft fruits, vegetables, cocktails from them.
Pilgrim answered completely through the meat grinder, I can add that once I accidentally grinded meat with a decent bone, I did not even notice how, only small clicks were heard.
But, all the same, it is impossible to describe the difference in words, when you do both, then in comparison all the differences are visible at once.

I have this wonderful machine for only two weeks (I could not boast before, the Internet did not work). The first thing I did was grind the meat on a nozzle and roll out the dough for dumplings and pasties. It is clear that a freestanding meat grinder will be more powerful, but my nozzle was fine with me. Grind 3 kg of meat on a medium wire rack in 4 minutes! I would have spent 30 minutes on manual work! Nothing spattered on me, the far from ideal meat was perfectly ground. And nothing was screwed up, completely ground. Also ground at 4 speeds. And in my nozzle there is also a slight backlash - during operation, the edge of the nozzle swayed slightly. By the way, it also swayed slightly with the dough roll. This did not affect the quality.
Apparently, this is really because the nozzle does not completely fit into the nest.
Girls who have a dough roller. Does your dough roll out the same thickness over the entire plane? At mine, it seemed to me, on one side, which is closer to the edge, rolls a little thicker. And, if you look from above, you can notice the unequal width of the hole in the rolling itself. A bit, but there is a difference. And during rolling, it happens, slightly chews the dough on one side. Is this a defect for me personally or for everyone? Although, maybe I haven't really adapted to it yet.
In general, I am terribly happy with my purchase! To celebrate, I made dumplings and pasties for two days in a row.The son said that, definitely, homemade dumplings are tastier than purchased ones (well, of course!)

Girls, can you help me in my torment. I do not have km020 and does not shine yet (at least while Boshik is alive), but there is a freestanding Kenwood meat grinder. I already ordered a low-speed grater for it, and I really want a nozzle for rolling out the dough.
I understand that they are inserted in the car in one slot. But at the same time, it is not written on the rolling attachment that it is suitable for a freestanding meat grinder.
Can you tell me if she really will not go to the meat grinder or can it be adapted?

[Nata333]

Nata333, I do not have a dough sheeter, but I suppose that it will be impossible to use this attachment in a meat grinder, because in the KM the speed is regulated from very low to high and the socket where the attachment is attached is called low-speed. In a meat grinder, the speed is much higher and when using a dough rolling machine, the dough will simply fly away. But let's wait for the girls who have this attachment, they will tell you.

[Nata333]

Nata333, I think that the dough sheeter will not work, since there is nowhere for the dough to fall, because the meat grinder has a ledge from below, where the meat enters the bowl. I have a meat grinder and a shredder, here is a link to my photo:

[Rimma71]

Thank you, Rimma71 Once again I looked at the photo of this rolling .... really too close the dough hangs from the attachment point. Okay, I have to do something the same, not just the technique.
This means that I will spend the saved money on the mill, it is definitely suitable for a meat grinder. And then in our village for a month and a half there is no whole grain flour in stores

[Kolich]

Kolich, I also have a freestanding Kenwood meat grinder bought before KM, and the difference in them is significant, since the meat grinder is indisputably more powerful. In the CM we adjust the speed ourselves, but here you just turn on the button and it already works at a certain high speed, there is no backlash (but for me it doesn't matter at all, it doesn't affect the work), it doesn't spray anything at all. But I already wrote above, I often use the attachment, because the CM is on the table in front of me, and I have to go for the meat grinder.BUT, when large volumes of meat are required to grind (for example, every year we buy a young bull in the fall, weighing a little more than 100 kg), then we get a meat grinder and grind the meat at once, and I would not use CM on such volumes, nafig will burn.

yes, no, no, why are you just like that, the meat grinder is designed to grind meat and not stand idle, nothing will burn, the design is the same everywhere, or you want to say that KM worth more than 1000 euros should burn out, and a meat grinder from KM costs 60-70 should the euro stand and grind? ))

PS: by the way, there are modifications of the meat grinder both AT950 and AT950A, the difference I know for sure that with the index A for mine and another for the younger models, there may have been some changes in the design (I suppose, otherwise everything and everything was stamped for everyone) so the results may vary.
but about the speed, no one bothers to turn on the last one, here in the nozzle it is very flexible - if you want the maximum, please turn it on! if you want it slowly and with the arrangement, adjust!
and turned on the usual meat grinder and oh * evai from its noise and work, no flexibility ...

[Kolich!]

Kolich!
So it is, probably, the glass is transparent. But I will still try to find a common language with him, at least for soft fruits, vegetables, cocktails from them.
Pilgrim answered completely through the meat grinder, I can add that once I accidentally grinded meat with a decent bone, I did not even notice how, only small clicks were heard.
But, all the same, it is impossible to describe the difference in words, when you do both, then in comparison all the differences are visible at once.

As for the blender, I have a nozzle numbered AT339 and before it there were AT337 and two AT338, which have undergone changes, xs, but the fact is, she makes smoothies in a few seconds just perfect .......

[Pinky]

Pinky
By the way, what kind of car did you buy and where?
at the same time a question to Lyi and Pinky
you use a dough rolling machine, well, she rolled out the dough for you, and then what? to sculpt these strips of rolled dough like a Lego constructor on a dumpling maker? Or am I not catching up with something? clarify plizz, otherwise the question was previously asked, but did not receive the desired answer.

I can answer about rolling. Divide the strip in half along an imaginary fold, lay out piles of filling at intervals of a couple of cm, cover with the remaining strip of dough so that the filling is in the fold, lightly press down the dough between the piles, cut with a roller first along the entire length, and then between the piles. Square ravioli are obtained. Very fast.

[Kolich]

Kolich I bought KM 020 from us in Ukraine in the Cheaper online store. no. Together with the dough rolling machine and delivery, it cost UAH 6311. Well, I bought the meat grinder separately in another place for 799 UAH. In total, it cost a little more than 7 thousand.
So far, I have used the dough sheeter only twice. Since I don’t have dumplings (and I don’t like dumplings from there, although the operating time is reduced.) I used to have it, but the dumplings often fell apart during cooking, so I threw it away. And now I used (for the first time) such a small adaptable, there are such molds for dumplings, dumplings and pasties of various sizes. It's a long time, of course, to do it in one hand, but it's beautiful. And the second time, I simply cut out circles with a glass on a rolled ribbon and sculpted them with handles as usual. It happened even faster. All the trimmings were again passed through the dough sheeter and so on until the end. Absolutely no waste. I don’t do a hundred pieces at once. This time there were about 60 pieces and a dozen more chebureks made (it was too lazy to make dumplings)
I tried to use a wheel that rolls up the edges - I didn't like it yet. Simply because for a long time and I have not yet adapted to it. I wanted round dumplings, and cut the squares with a wheel.
In any case, even with manual sculpting, everything turns out much faster, because the main time is usually spent on rolling the dough, which is very laborious. And then she rolled out the dough and molded for her pleasure in seconds.

[Pinky]

Pinky when rolling out the dough, when you switched the speed on the typewriter - did you turn off the machine or not?

[kavilter]

kavilter
why turn it off?

[Pinky]

Pinky
Hmm ...I wonder what kind of molds are for dumplings, I really want to try them ...
By the way, how much did it work in dollarders?

[Pinky]

Pinky Well, the rollers are rotating, and we have to bring them closer together, so the question is - do we stop the machine?

[kavilter]

kavilter While rolling out the dough, I not speed switched. Turned on the car all the time at 1-tsu (speed). But at the very rolling, when I changed the thickness of the rolling 1-3-6, the machine must be turned off. Because on rolling you need to pull back the roller lock and rearrange the thickness. During operation, this will not work, since the roller rotates. When I changed the thickness, the speed of the car, despite the fact that it was always set to one, in my opinion, itself increased a little. Well, it sounded like that to me. Maybe this is because there was a thinner rolling.
I roll it only to one unit (speed) - it's written in my instructions.

Kolich These dumplings are sold in all markets. I, however, took Evronov's online store, there all three at once. This is a circle, divided in half, it folds like a book. There are denticles along the edges. The reverse side of the circle is sharp, it squeezes out a circle on the dough. Put this circle on the form, minced meat in the middle and fold. It turns out a dumpling in shape with beautiful edges. Well, for a dumpling - to blind the edges. I have been talking for so long because for the fourth day I have problems with the radical - I cannot insert a photo. For pasties it is very convenient and fast.
And the machine cost about 885 dollars, including attachments and delivery.

[kavilter]

here she rolled out the dough for you, and then what? to sculpt these strips of rolled dough like a Lego constructor on a dumpling maker? Or am I not catching up with something? clarify plizz, otherwise the question was previously asked, but did not receive the desired answer.

I take a small piece of dough, make a cake out of it and roll it out by 1,4,8 to get the required length corresponding to my dumpling machine, if I cut off the excess and use it again by rolling. I spread this strip on my dumpling machine. In width, the strip captures 4 pieces, and in length in the dumpling maker we have 5 pieces. Total 4x5 = 20 pcs. I put the minced meat and put another similar strip on top, roll it on top with a rolling pin, shake it out and get 20 pieces of dumplings at once. That is, I do everything the same way as on the round dumplings we are used to.

kavilter But at the very rolling, when I changed the thickness of the rolling 1-3-6, the machine must be turned off.

Kolich These dumplings are sold in all markets.

Pinky, when changing the thickness of the rolling, the machine never stops. All tip-top.
Kolich!I assume that the molds are

Nata333, here is a photo of a meat grinder with inserts of a dough sheeter and a mill. I think both will do. True, in the photo I had no time to combine the slots and the nozzles did not sit down to the end, so if you buy, try to check it yourself, but IMHO. should fit. But the speed in the meat grinder is great, how will you catch this strip. , and so below the hand freely passes to pick up this strip.
Here is a dough roller

here is the mill

Well done, how did you come up with such an idea. And you don't need so much money.

[Lyi]

Lyi Considering that I've only used my new toy twice, so I'm still afraid to experiment for now. Perhaps you don't need to stop the machine every time you change the thickness, I will try next time. I actually found it really a little uncomfortable to stop the car every time. Well nothing, practice is a great thing, I will learn
Yes, and the mold is just the same for me, only white. Yours will be prettier. I love bright colors in kitchen utensils.
Now tell me, please, with what nozzle you knead the dough for muffins? Rubberized or K-shaped? Bread dough, as I understand it, is kneaded by everyone with a hook. I haven't used it yet - I'm at home alone now, there is no one to bake bread for

[Lyi]

Lyi , thank you very much
Now you can see that the dough roller will have half of the strip above the ledge. And I understood the rotation speed in the meat grinder more than the first recommended speed in the car ...So let's leave this attachment for dessert
I wonder if the grinder speed is good for the mill? And at what speed do you grind grain by car?

Well done, how did you come up with such an idea.

So not from a good life - my husband refuses to buy 020. So, for now, I will go through the nozzles suitable for both it and the meat grinder, and when the old combine is over, it will be possible to persuade it for the car, already half of the necessary will be available

[Pinky!]

What kind of attachment do you use for the muffin dough? Rubberized or K-shaped? Bread dough, as I understand it, is kneaded by everyone with a hook.

Pinky!Rubberized. In general, I divide it for myself, if the dough is of the consistency of liquid sour cream or multi-oil-rubber, thicker than sour cream and does not form a kolobok-K-shaped, kolobok-hook.
Practically K-shaped, I use it mainly for minced meat, pates, etc. I somehow got used to it.
Although in the instructions for Ken, the K-shaped is used for cakes, and for pudding, and for beating eggs, like the fact that it is metal, which means it cools, it gives +.
See pages 8-9 for instructions if you have it in Russian.

And the rotation speed I so understood in the meat grinder is more than the first recommended speed in the car ... So let's leave this attachment for dessert
I wonder if the grinder speed is good for the mill? And at what speed do you grind grain by car?

Nata333! For a mill, the recommended speed according to the instructions is maximum. Although I usually get stranded at a slow speed. I really like this mill, since we do not have a variety of flour types on sale. So it will probably do.
But the dough sheeter according to the instructions (me too) uses speed 1. But go for it. If possible, try to test it on shop attachments. I was afraid of mine. I really love this attachment.

[Kolich]

KolichAs far as I know, there is no dicing tool for Kenwood. Such a nozzle goes, it seems, to a Bosch combine.

And yet it exists)


Suitable for Chef models. Major. KM. meat grinder MG400 and MG500

It remains to find her in Ukraine)))

[Deep]

Deep, thanks for the good news! I can't believe my eyes! Some time ago, there was a discussion on many forums that this particular attachment is not enough for happiness. And here she is. How long have they started to release it?
It is a pity that my husband has already left for work. In the evening I will show him this attachment. No matter how they call our salad Olivier, my husband has this favorite dish (and indeed the whole family). And when I start to cut it (and no one else has enough endurance except me), it spins in the kitchen, it certainly touches something, drops it, knocks it over. This is how impatience manifests itself. Moreover, while I cut half a bucket of lettuce, he goes on a hunger strike for this time. He eats nothing else and harasses everyone. Well, I think that now my combine will appear very soon !!!

[Suitable for Chef models. Major. KM. meat grinder MG400 and MG500]

And yet it exists

Suitable for Chef models. Major. KM. meat grinder MG400 and MG500

It remains to find her in Ukraine)))

Kolich!Whoa, where are you?
Maybe you can use your connections in Germany and order this attachment for all of us there?
Chur, I'm in line in the first row!
Or maybe it will be enough to buy just a disc for this dicing?
The nozzle itself looks very similar to a high-speed grater-slicer (I have it, and many have it), it is unlikely that they changed anything in it. Then you just need a slicing disc to be inserted into this high speed grater and slicer.

Oh, this is great news! And I also want such a nozzle! If anyone finds it first in Ukraine - share the address. But so far, as I understand it, we do not have it. Do you already have it in Russia?

[Lyi]

Lyi
here I am tutochki))))))
there was just a lot of work!
yeah, there really is this miracle, I guess on the off site the Kenwoods shoved it into the section "lotions for meat grinders" or the like, since it is not in the lotions section for our Kesha .....
sorry for not answering for so long, I was at work, I’ll look now, see and unsubscribe about the order and will it fit or not ...

well so, you may be surprised or amazed, but this nozzle is present only in RUSSIA)))) even Kenwood himself does not know about it, at least by this name))))) (here are naive, they do not even think that the Russians have already developed her) rummaged through a lot of resources, but for such keywords only the Russian Federation comes across, neither in Germany nor in Yukei nor in the States it is not ..... wrote to the Kenwood office, let's see what they answer me about it, they may also be surprised) )))

By the way, who has a thread with a Cooking Chef Club card? I have it, since I bought it in Germashka)), by the way, there are a lot of recipes that are replenished, there are recipes for the day of the month, etc. ..... a funny little thing .... hay regal his little animal kenwudenysha)))

well so, you may be surprised or amazed, but this nozzle is present only in RUSSIA)))) even Kenwood himself does not know about it, at least by this name))))) (here are naive, they do not even think that the Russians have already developed her) rummaged through a lot of resources, but for such keywords only the Russian Federation comes across, neither in Germany nor in Yukei nor in the States it is not ..... wrote to the Kenwood office, let's see what they answer me about it, they may also be surprised) )))

Germans, Americans, Italians) Heh, they just don’t fumble in vinaigrettes) - no demand - no supply)) And how our husbands love Olivier - no one likes it) So they made an especial for us, having studied, so to speak, our New Year's menu)
Sad news, Kolich .. it's a fake, apparently.

no, I don’t think it’s a fake, maybe it exists with them, only under a different name, this is my guess, but anything is possible ...

[Kolich!]

Well, finally, I broke away from my peaches and rushed to my computer, hoping that here they are already collecting money for this attachment.
Alas! Even Kolich fell short of expectations. : nea: And so I wanted this attachment.
Let's see what the Kenwood dealership answers.
I called the store offering to buy this attachment for 3990 rubles. They told me that at the moment there are no such attachments, but they are waiting for their receipt by October. Apparently, the market is forecasting at what price to sell.

Lots of recipes that are added, there are recipes for the day of the month, etc ... a funny thing ...

Kolich!Can you share these recipes with us? Put it out somewhere, and drop us the link.
And you will have a BIG, BIG THANKS from all of us.

[Lyi]

Lyi
There may be two options, or really Kesha has given it up at last (but then, according to the LOGIC of things, there would be an advertisement on their website that they say a novelty and blah blah blah ..), but this is not, respectively, or Kesha such a secretive agent from Britain and he conspires everything carefully, or he himself learns about her from my letter)), and the other option is that they launched an advertisement duck, knowing deliberately that she was not there and everyone was looking for her, so they banged, and everyone else is told that this is expected ... ... like this ...
But as for the recipes, it’s only they are in his language, my translator automatically translates them (by the way, it’s still quite good), is it really necessary with such a translation?

[Kolich]

Kolich ! Yes, a very interesting story!
Straight fiction with a detective!
Well, wait and see. You are already there, as you receive a response to your letter from the Kenwood office, share the results with us.
No, recipes with machine translation are undesirable, I'm afraid to poison my family.

[... Apparently, the market is forecasting at what price to sell.]

... Apparently, the market is forecasting at what price to sell.
Exactly, exactly. In Full. ru a month ago, the price of this attachment was 6000 rubles, and now it has dropped to 3990 rubles. But I don’t know if it’s available there, the purchase in electronic form seems to go through.

... But I don’t know if it’s available there, the purchase in electronic form seems to go through.

It was in this store that they told me that they should arrive by October, now they are not available.
And yet the question pesters me - does it (the nozzle) exist or not? After all, we were offered a photo, and in an expanded form!

[Lyi]

Lyi
One has only to wait for Kenwood's answer, while they are silent ..... maybe what kind of thread they have holidays))))

Yes, but what an intrigue unfolded!
This will be the number if Kenwood knows nothing about it, and this is the arbitrariness of our Russian or Chinese craftsmen!
Where is the copyright law?
In general, if I don’t die of curiosity, I’ll wait for Kenwood’s answer.

[Lyi]

Lyi
From the yukei, that is, from the homeland of Kesha, the answer came that they did not know about this device at all and asked to clarify it in their "local" representative office.
In Germany, they said that this nozzle for KM070 will not work and they do not have any information about this nozzle)))
circus is straightforward))

slow down with questions, be patient until mid-autumn. And there it will be seen. All the same, before the nozzle is released at the factory and released for sale, we will not be able to buy it.

Good day)
If there are owners of Kenwood KM 286, can you please tell me if there is a small glass mill in this device?) I can not find a reliable description of the configuration). I would be grateful for your feedback on this model as a whole.
Thank you

[Lyi]

Lyi
From the yukei, that is, from the homeland of Kesha, the answer came that they did not know about this device at all and asked to clarify it in their "local" representative office.
In Germany they said that this nozzle for KM070 will not work and they do not have any information about this nozzle)))
circus is straightforward))

Ha ha ha !!!
Forecast: nimble managers of the Internet store Full. ru released a big, big yellow duck on the Internet to attract attention, the rest of the managers, don't be fools, also joined.
This is the worst case scenario.
But - there is a photo, which means - there is hope!

[for 4000 rubles]

Dear forum users. After reading the forum, for half a year now I have been the happy owner of Kenwood.
Ordered kenwood chef km 010 + Attachment Kenwood AT640 Food processor + Attachment Kenwood AT320 universal chopper + Attachment Kenwood AT950A Meat grinder.
But when ordering, instead of kenwood chef km 010, they brought kenwood chef km 010 07. The store does not accept back, because according to our documents, kenwood chef km 010 is the only one.

So I got 2 meat grinders and a Kenwood AT641 centrifugal juicer (which I did not plan to buy since we do not drink juices).
Therefore, I sell:

1. New attachment centrifugal juicer Kenwood AT641... We don't need a juicer. Condition - was not in operation. Instruction and all accessories included for 4000 rubles... In its own box, but without a photo of the design, since it was in the same box with the car itself.
2. Attachment Meat grinder Kenwood AT950A new, in the manufacturer's unopened packaging. Condition - was not in operation. Instruction and all accessories included for 2500 rubles + check + guarantee, etc. [/font]
I live in the suburbs. I'll take you to VDNKh, Telecentre Ostankino, Pushkino, Shchelkovo and others in the area. Other metro stations and addresses are being discussed.
It's a pity such stuff gathers dust on the shelf. Write in a personal.

your posts are like speculation in the topic !!!!!
it (a juicer) can be brought from Germany with delivery for 2700 rubles !!!!!! and a meat grinder for about 2,000 rubles.
you can not breed our members of the forum, and if indeed "lies and gather dust" then certainly it should not be sold at these prices by "store"

your posts are like speculation in the topic !!!!!
it (a juicer) can be brought from Germany with delivery for 2700 rubles !!!!!! and a meat grinder for about 2,000 rubles.
you can not breed our members of the forum, and if indeed "lies and gather dust" then certainly it should not be sold at these prices by "store"

I think my message will not interest those who can order equipment directly from Germany.

The prices I indicated are one third lower than the official representative (kupikenwood dot ru) and are not speculative. I bought in a Russian online store, sell at Russian prices and for Russian rubles. I do not impose my offer on anyone. But I don’t do charity work at this forum either.

If you, Kolich, have the opportunity to go to Germany, then please, grab the Römer Trifix car seat, it is also three times cheaper there, it is very necessary.

P.S.In order not to flood. I no longer comment on my message and answer only on the merits of the proposal I made to people who were really interested.