Innusya

Innusya, see my answer # 759, may help. I have been looking for KM 020 on the Internet for a long time, but I did not find them cheaply - and they are not available anywhere, only to order (which can be completed within 3 weeks or more - and this is not final, so they answered me in Internet stores; they they simply don’t know when the delivery will be!).


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I constantly follow ... the events around Kenwood KM 020 in Russia ... because I want to buy it, BUT ... there is no limit to the appetite of our entrepreneurs ... And I have not met the prices you mentioned, but by the way and do not expect))
And on the link that you gave they write "page not found" ...

These are the passions boiling around Kenwood 020

Svettika
Innusya, just tried to select a link (without a dot at the end!) and follow it - everything worked out. Try again to copy the link and paste it into the address bar. Or in a search engine (for example, in Yandex) type 🔗 and there on their website to find this model.
Innusya
)) Apparently I originally picked up the point Yes)) in fact, there is a nice price)) but delivery only in Moscow and the Moscow region ((and I need to Rostov-on-Don
Innusya
Quote: Esfir

Oh girls, my heart feels that the price will probably not go down for them. : cray: My patience is running out. I've been waiting since May. Spit and go to the Boshiks 84
I also thought so ... but including the mind ...) I don't want to mess with Bosch ... yes, he is handsome ... but he is unlikely to be able to compete in working with Kenwood ...)) I've also been waiting since May )) I'll wait a little more)))
Svettika
Girls, masters and experts in nozzles! Help to understand and explain to the layman in this regard. Shoveled everything about Kenwood 020 and nozzles ... and got confused. I noticed that the same nozzle has a different letter designation, but what is the difference I did not understand, and with what designation is the new model? Of course, there is a lot of information on the forum, but I really want to get more recent information from knowledgeable people. That is, can someone post a complete list of nozzles with a designation that can be purchased for 020, taking into account new models (I think, newer is better !?) Thank you in advance to everyone who responds to my request.
P.S. On off. the site is also not very clear which attachments are newer. And yet, what does the letter A after the numbers mean - on the websites of online stores, somewhere it is indicated in the designation, but somewhere it is not (with the same numbers, of course).
zvezda
What exactly interests ???
Svettika
Zvezda, thanks for your feedback!
I want to buy almost all the attachments, since I grabbed such a machine, well, maybe, except for some round attachments for preparing a variety of pasta, except for scales and a meat grinder (there is Kenwood).
So this is the point: there is, for example, a vegetable cutter attachment AT 998A and AT 340. How do they differ: the first is made of plastic, the second is made of metal? which model is newer ?, how many disks are included (I think, the designation also differs by the number of disks). Moreover, the site indicates the AT 340 model, and in the booklet for my Kenwood - AT 998A (it seems to me that the 340 is newer, but maybe I'm wrong). In this regard, I would like to find out about all the nozzles (except for the round ones for pasta - there, it seems, everything is clear and they are unchanged in the designation). I just want to search the internet and buy exactly those models that fit the 020 and newer ones, of course. That is, I would like to get a visual, ordered list of the most specific and latest models for today, for example:
1. mill for groats - such and such a model;
2. low-speed grater-slicer - .....;
3.etc. And so on.
If it is possible to do this, then I would be very, very grateful for the information provided.
And yet, what does the letter mean? A after the numbers: somewhere they put it, but somewhere not?
Who can - help, please. Probably, such infa will be useful to many beginners.
Zvezda askony
Quote: Esfir

Oh girls, my heart feels that the price will probably not go down for them. : cray: My patience is running out. I've been waiting since May. Spit and go to the Boshiks 84
No need to go to the Boshiks !!!!!
They have two advantages
1) cheaper
2) one of them knows how to cut into cubes
Comparing Boshi With Kenwood
That first one is Lada Kalina. and the second Toyota
Something like this
I watched a lot of links on the Internet. True, this may not mean anything. So that's cryptic marketing. Lure with one whatever you want
And in the end, they tell you - well, there are no such - take these, they are just as good - and cheaper.
Innusya
My patience is ALREADY over !!! I'm leaving for KitchenAid !!! A worthy replacement!
Rina
Quote: Innusya

I constantly follow ... the events around Kenwood KM 020 in Russia ... because I want to buy it, BUT ... there is no limit to the appetite of our entrepreneurs ... And I have not met the prices you mentioned, but by the way and do not expect))
And on the link that you gave they write "page not found" ...

These are the passions boiling around Kenwood 020

Passions are really boiling. Moreover, for a long time. There is unverified information that some of the most important management of Kenwood deliberately changed the leadership of the Ukrainian branch due to the fact that there were TOO LOW PRICES FOR KENWOOD! And they "leveled" prices with European ones. Only one very big BUT. They were leveled almost to above the average European prices, but they forgot to raise our salaries. In any case, if there is an opportunity in Germany or England, you can buy the same KM 020 at a price comparable to our current "Ukrainian" prices (in terms of euros or pounds).

It's one thing when you spend a third or half of your one month's earnings on the purchase of such equipment, it's another thing when you have to put off the full two, three, four or five monthly earnings for this business.
Innusya
The information on the change of leadership is more than reliable !!! Ukrainian prices did not suit Russian ... "entrepreneurs" very much ... that is why such passions are simmering ... Only they were too long ...
But as they say .. no bad without good ..) I already refuse Kenwood, because it is not going to get cheaper, and I don’t want to buy for a really high price and I will not.
At the moment, many are ordering for Amer. Amazon kittens, and despite the expensive delivery, the price of the car is much less than the price of Kenwood in Russia ...
Zvezda askony
Quote: Innusya

At the moment, many are ordering for Amer. Amazon kittens, and despite the expensive delivery, the price of the car is much less than the price of Kenwood in Russia ...
How much, if not a secret?
I saw Kitchenide in the METRO (what is Cash & Carry)
it cost 29,000 - "naked"
For the same money - in fact, for 26,000 (since 4,000 were given as a gift)
I bought 10 0007 with a meat grinder, juicer and blender, and, accordingly, with what goes to the bowl - dough mixer hook and so on
While the selection process was going on, the kitschen were torn off and wrapped around the whole
Not impressed even once
At a price of 5,000 -8,000 rubles - it could be taken - but not more expensive
Maybe he is certainly unique in his work - but ...
By the way
but what about the 40 series and 70?
Are they on sale with us or in Europe or on E Bai and others like him?
if so, how much does it cost?
Innusya
prices there are different (model, power) if interested, go to Amer. amazon to Kitchen & Dining ›Small Appliances› Mixers ›Stand Mixers.
Yes, I agree, when I saw it in the Metro too ... I was amazed by the assembly alone ... the view is not impressive .. (.. apparently for Russia) because before that I saw a completely different quality.
Of course .. still need to consider who needs what from such a machine. Personally, I prefer to have a separate technique (meat grinder, blender, etc.) from all additional. I want a dough sheeter and a noodle cutter))
And about 40 and 70 I can’t say anything ... after all the long promises and expectations, I don’t want to look in the direction of Kenwood ..
Rina
I'm postponing the purchase until the end of the year.Well, my hand will not rise for such an amount (unless my husband decides to make a gift, he will spend some money, he knows how I dream of such a machine). And by the end of the year, "... someone will die: either the donkey, or me, or the emir ..." (c) Either the situation with the ken in Ukraine will break down, or the husband will have a decent opportunity in Europe. True, so far it is known only about Germany and only for two days, and for a decent price the machine will have to be ordered. Of course, it would be ideal for him to get under the Christmas sales (in Europe, they are still falling at this time, unlike ours, when prices only rise on New Year's Eve).
Rina
Luysia , thanks, today I'll write to the seller. True, given that I only need a car and a meat grinder ... I will still find out how much warranty is left (and whether it remained at all), since the car was obviously bought not in the last delivery, then the price is not so profitable for me.

By the way, the 020 model has actually gone out of sale (there are only three offers left for the price list, of which one is "dead" by definition).

By the way, the model also disappeared from German sites 020, apparently, the 040 is being ousted.
Luysia
Rina, let your long-worn Wishlist quickly appear in your kitchen!
Nata-li
Girls! I'm new here. I got to the site trying to find information about Kenwood. I really want Kenwood 023. Well, or 020 for my birthday. I have been looking for several months. Of course, I would like to be cheaper, because the thing is too expensive. And as a result, the birthday is the day after tomorrow, and these combines are nowhere to be found!
Only today I was told in one of the online stores that there were some supply problems with Kenwood in Russia, so they probably won't even be there by the New Year. I read the forum - Ukraine has the same problems. And what to do now?
What is this mysterious 040 model? I only found some kind of drip coffee maker with this number ...
Yes, I looked at the Bosch 86R1 (it seems to be spelled that way), but I didn't impress something.
And I really want a gift !!!
Rina
models 030 and 040 are only available for the European market. These are analogs of 010 and 020, but with an electronic timer.
TyominaAlyona
I'm not at all in the subject of kitchens. Kenwood machines, probably, we are talking about buying for the most adequate price and they disappeared from sale in these sources, offering the unit for a reasonable price. Just a few days ago I saw in COMFI 10 and 20 models, a bunch of nozzles for them. I admired it, fiddled with the price tag and crawled away.
Rina
in comfi and similar bargaining. networks, these machines cost the same as in European stores (not the Internet, but ordinary ones), if not more. The minimum price that can be found in the European open spaces is about 440-470 euros, i.e. 5000-5350 UAH, 17700-18900 rubles. (according to the current rate of our national bank). A few months ago, our prices were close to the lower European ones, nevertheless, the purchasing power of our citizens is not the same as in Europe. It's one thing if you have to pay for the typewriter one week income, another thing - two to three full periods earnings. Someone was seriously crushed by a gray-green warty amphibian, that in Ukraine it was possible to buy this technique at a lower European price.

Nata-li, we have already talked about the 070 model here. This is actually an analogue of 020/040, with one big but ... there is induction heating. This technique allows you to immediately cook in a bowl all sorts of custards, heated biscuits, stews, etc. 070 model has already appeared in Ukraine, but the price was about $ 1200, which will be now, I can't even imagine.
Nata-li
Rina, Thank you! I didn't even know that this model was already on sale. True, I'm not from Ukraine. So we may not even have had them. The model is really very interesting and worthy. I wonder if it will be sold with additional attachments? I am especially interested in the meat grinder. After all, the models 020 and 023 were on sale, which mainly differed in the number of attachments.
Anyway. My birthday is already tomorrow, and the harvesters don't know when they will appear. Well, I'll wait until New Years. Since it will be bought for a long time, I want the most functional model.
Nata-li
Rina, sorry to wedge myself into someone else's conversation.If I understand correctly, then you will try to buy Kenwood in Germany. Is it really necessary to pay a fee for such a technique? Where and to whom? I was bringing a coffee machine from Austria worth about 20 thousand rubles. I didn't pay anything. Moreover, I issued Taxfree and returned my tax. It was about 4 years ago. And 6 years ago, my sister was taking a sewing machine from Austria too. At that time, it was the most sophisticated and such were not sold in Russia. Sister, however, did not issue Taxfree, because she lives "there".
I also decided that I would wait for the Kenwood KM070. And if they do not appear with us before the New Year, then I will buy "there". But now everything is in doubt.
Rina
Nata-li, we do not pay duty on goods up to 200 euros. Anything from above - please pay the fee. Therefore, it is necessary to turn around the options with VAT refunds when exporting from Europe in order to somehow compensate for the fact that our customs officers will have to pay.
Nata-li
Rina, did I understand correctly: this rule about 200 euros is valid for Ukraine? But not for Russia? Before, I only flew by plane, and then my husband and I began to travel to Europe by car, though through Belarus. And if I take the harvester through Ukraine to Russia, will I still have to pay the duty? Or I will bring it to Russia, and then I want to bring it to someone in Ukraine, then how? And Taxfree is VAT refund. When I fly by plane, I get refunded money right at the airport without any problems. When we went by car, we also received it right at the border. And the car was turned upside down - and nothing.
Rina
You go in transit, declare import and export there. As far as I know, from Russia to Ukraine, the same rules apply. Several years ago, my sister-in-law was badly spoiled by our customs officers when she wanted to import (attention!) Temporarily for three months. second-hand sewing machine. You see, the car was more expensive than 200 euros, and then no one told the sister-in-law to fill out a declaration with an obligation to export.

In general, as far as I know, it all depends on which customs officers you run into.
Nata-li
Rina, yes, you have cruel rules ... Now I'll go read ours. I haven't imported anything big for 3 years. What if something has changed?
Nata-li
I read the customs regulations. There are no words.
The only option remains: to find a person working in the diplomatic corps. Their luggage does not have the right to inspect (and scan through too) and ask them to bring the item to Ukraine.
And here's another thought came to mind. Can flight attendants bring you? Or are they the same strict rules?
ZoRrO
Please tell me where you can buy cheaper attachments for KENWOOD KM 020, because I want to buy about 10 attachments for a gift. And where can you buy such AT 952A or AT445 potato peeler attachments.
Preferably with delivery within Russia ... Thanks in advance!
Nata-li
Well, I read that if new Kenwood harvesters appear, they will first have them on the site, but the price is not specified. I called today. There I was told that an agreement had been reached with Kenwood on supplies, but the model that I chose for myself (and this is KM 070) will not be until January. I tried to find out about the price, saying that in Europe they cost 1100 euros, and I was told that in our country (Russia), they would probably cost the same.
Now I'm thinking, is it worth buying a harvester with induction heating? Maybe it’s not so necessary and worth looking at the KM 040?

And another question for knowledgeable people: is there a nozzle for them that cuts into cubes?
ilkva
Hello girls! So I decided to buy this miracle (or rather, I brought my husband to this), it's a pity that the price jumped up, and specifically jumped, more I've been looking at it for a long time. In connection with the choice, I want to ask you what is better to take 020 or 023 already, these nozzles are at this price. And still such a question, is the Kenwood Titanium Major worth that overpayment from the usual major? Or I don't understand something, it's just that there is so much information that I got confused into it
Agata
ilkva Combines class titanium produce with fur. management, only the chef - 010, the major - 020 (without a meat grinder), 023 (with a meat grinder).If you do not have a separate email. grinder, then buy 023.
Premier class come with email. management (do you need it?) with n. difference in price.
And you can gradually buy the attachments, or ask Santa Claus for a holiday.

P.S. I use and do not enjoy my 020. I have email. Philips meat grinder. I'm waiting for the New Year, I will make an order for other nozzles
Rina
there is a box in the corridor, it is warming up ... I did not check, but in the report I wrote that "the check was not carried out due to low temperature"
Agata
Rina, great choice . In my opinion, this is the most optimal combination of the main machine + the necessary attachments (not showing off and at the same time a reliable model). Happy for you!
Rina
now in the style of a matroskin - you need to hide the presence of this bandura at home for a while (the older child promised that he would not tell his grandfather, but this is a child who is not yet six years old), and the younger is asleep, so the risk is somewhere- then 50/50.

Now from the necessities - a meat grinder, a multi-shredder and change the rub (I turned out to be a chief, but I need a major).

Frankly, I took it for such a price because our dollar crawled upwards, and my stock was in hryvnia. And now the problem is to convert our money into currency. And on all conversions, I would have lost a decent amount, and nerves, and time. Although, knowing my "happiness", in any case, I lost some extra amount.
Pinky
Rina, with a long-awaited purchase you !. Let it serve for a long time and without breakdowns. And at what price did they buy? And where. I ask because I have not yet given up my dream to buy either.
Pinky
Rina Oh, I just followed your link - it costs 6281 UAH already. When did they manage to raise the price! Yesterday I ran through online stores, everywhere the price is already higher than the one stated in the price lists. If they continue to raise prices at such a pace, I'm afraid I won't have time to collect the money. And how you want!
ilkva
RinaVery happy for you! Congratulations on your purchase! I seem to have already finally decided, I will take 020. I have a Zelmer meat grinder with a shredder. And then I’d better buy what I need for my attachments.
I also see the price rises by the day and by the hour, my husband travels to Europe often, so I want to order him to look there.
Rina
Pinky, I ordered on Thursday, on Friday there was already a new price (by the way, I paid even 10 UAH more than I was told when ordering).

ilkva, the husband will have to take several steps.
1. Get together with the check a piece of paper for the refund of the local VAT (indicating some passport data).
2. receive money upon departure.
3. pay the import duty (we still have a restriction on duty-free import of goods up to 200 euros).

Otherwise, if you hit on some inveterate mytnik you will have to pay a duty, and this will kill all the benefits of buying in Europe.

I wouldn't buy a harvester here if I was sure that my husband would be able to stay in Germany for at least a week and even order it correctly with the necessary papers.
Nata-li
Rina, I sincerely congratulate you on your purchase and envy white envy! Let it serve you faithfully for a long, long time and give you pleasure !!!

I asked somewhere above, but no one answered. Maybe, you know. Is there a Kenwood nozzle that cuts into cubes?

And yet, I chose, chose. And I really liked the KM 070 model with induction heating. Do you think it's worth it or not? Well, or how much is it necessary? Or maybe I also don't bother and buy the 020 model?
Rina
Nata-li, thanks for the compliments. As for the nozzle - as far as I know, ken has no cubes.

About induction heating ... I don't even know. If there is a financial opportunity, then why not? If this gives a serious strain, then induction is a lotion without which you can live. Although this is all theory, we don't seem to have real users of 070 model yet
Rina
Irisha, yes, there would be something and someone to cook ... but I don't have that cow that needs this very hay - there are no adult men in the house, just me and two small ones. So I bought this bandura, and even a food processor is now superfluous to me. Cooking minuscule. I can't even make a cake.
matroskin_kot
I rush, firstly, small ones grow quickly, well, but adults, they will not always be on the road ... And now we are together too, but I would not refuse Kenwood sometimes ... I’m so used to it. ..
Elka_guc
Rina, can I buy rubbing from you for 10 Kenwood. I am from Donetsk.
Rina
Elka_guc, I will orientate myself in the next few days (they are still waiting for the disassembly of the box) and let me know if I will sell it or not.
Rina
Freken Bock, Congratulations! let these details be more reliable than their relatives.
and disparate - how much, if not a secret? comparable to a new dough rolling machine or something else?

By the way, girls, I am throwing a cry - since yesterday in Foxtrot there has been some kind of 50% promotion for all goods. I did not understand - this is in new stores (there should have been about three dozen of them) or throughout the network.
In general, mnu is very interested in the multi-shredder, meat grinder, potato peeler, ice cream maker, rubbing - on the 020 model.

Quote: Freken Bock

Oh, Ira, I missed the main news! Happy Purchase! Let the machine please and serve for a long, long time!
Thank you ... just to drag the box to the kitchen and start the monster to work. Otherwise, I have it "hidden" from the eyes of my parent (it stands in the closet next to the computer, so the box is already all lit) ...
Freken Bock
Quote: Rina
... and disparate - how much, if not a secret? comparable to a new dough rolling machine or something else?

They made two cogwheels for me for 260 hryvnia. I broke one such wheel in the summer from a great mind. The price of the nozzle is far away, but the price of the nozzle is also not particularly comparable with common sense. But a manual noodle cutter can be bought for that kind of money. Only I have a manual one. And they fed them "breakfasts" for three months. At my work, these wheels were already the subject of universal fun.
Quote: Zvezda Askony


And money - yes, theirs, Not in them happiness.

Yes!!!
ilkva
Quote: Rina

Girls, yorstor set (for some reason on the weekend) a price of 722 dollars / 5845 UAH. for 020 model. Most likely, a linden tree, but who needs it - try your luck.
I called and tried, they said that the price is the same as indicated, but they work on 100% prepayment.
I talked to the border, said that he could buy in Italy for 600 euros and did not wake up to draw up any paperwork, so that VAT was returned there, he did not have time for this. I don’t know what to do, buy here or be lucky because of the hillock: girl_in_dreams: And I already want a typewriter
Rina
600 euros is an analogue of our not the lowest prices. + carry a healthy heavy box, + run the risk of running into a customs officer who knows very well that purchases up to EUR 200 are not subject to duty. And this means that you will have to pay some more percent of the cost there. With a price of 600 euros for 020, I would buy it here. Initially, I wanted my husband to bring him from Germany, there you can find it for 470 euros, minus their VAT, plus our duties. But my husband gave the command to buy here - the potential gain would be too small for the hassle of ordering and carrying a box.

Another point is that equipment purchased in the Eurozone may not be serviced by our service centers.

Ask - they had a price less than 6200 yesterday, in addition, if you have the opportunity to order through someone in Kiev or another large city to bring the box to friends, they checked it, only then did they pay money and send the box to you.
Rina
ilkva, if it is convenient for you to pick up in Lugansk, then delivery with payment on the spot can cost 220-250 UAH. (this is so, offhand). Look at the photos. ya have a calculator. They deliver onsite. Pick up for the 30th anniversary of Victory, 37.

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