Kitchen machine Kenwood (2)

Hello dear members of the forum, I accidentally started reading your topic about Kenwood cars and now I also got infected with this, we live in the UAE and here Kenwoods 010,020 are sold only of the Chinese assembly, although they are an order of magnitude cheaper than in Russia, and in this regard, I have a question - in Russia Are they also selling "china" or can you find a European assembly for this money? When I read reviews about various attachments, I met a lot of conflicting reviews, for example, about a meat grinder attachment, decided that it is possible that a marriage in the attachments comes across or is it all about a different assembly?

We also have China, but the build is good.

Here they asked about the difference between KM and KMS marking 010 Kenwood, for example, KMS is almost 200 dollars. cheaper than KM, although they have the same equipment (like in Russia KM013 with a multi-shredder, scales, a combine, a citrus juicer) when asked why “they didn’t answer anything intelligible, only that they did not have a KMS long ago. Different markets are different equipment, so apparently the poorest for Russia at the highest price

Hello dear members of the forum, I accidentally started reading your topic about Kenwood cars and now I also got infected with this, we live in the UAE and here Kenwoods 010,020 are sold only of the Chinese assembly, although they are an order of magnitude cheaper than in Russia, and in this regard, I have a question - in Russia Are they also selling "china" or can you find a European assembly for this money? When I read reviews about various attachments, I met a lot of conflicting reviews, for example, about a meat grinder attachment, decided that it is possible that a marriage in the attachments comes across or is it all about a different assembly? -found a site with very attractive prices for kenwoods and other harvesters, I hope someone will come in handy if it's not messy of course then sorry

It seems to me that you are the very "owner" of the site to which you threw off the link, so to speak black PR))))) and the registration date "today" is very alarming!
The site was thrown! do not get fooled by the people on him!
The scammers didn't even bother to write the grammar "karta-saieta"
it was very funny to me to read it was just uhahahbl))))
and in addition, those stores that do not leave the phone in 100% of cases are scammers !!!! be vigilant people !!!!
COMRADE MODERATORS take action to ban this black PR man!

and where to take this into account? and who is most important?

They promised me to throw off the program for working with what I described. But I haven't received it yet, why I don't know ..
So, it turns out that nirazu has not done this yet, but the algorithm that I understood from the words of the manager of Delongi-Ukraine (by the way, I will describe my purchase below and what I communicated with the manager) is as follows:
- anyone can become a distributor of these machines
- if, on his recommendation, a person comes and buys a combine (I don’t know it applies to all equipment or only to Chef), then the referee receives a cash bonus (I don’t know with money, or a purchase, I need to clarify)
Since they promised to throw off the program, I did not ask about the nuances, but the manager's phone is there, I can push about the program.

Well, it turns out that everyone is happy, it would be logical to divide the cash bonus between the buyer and the recommending one - everything seems to be in the pros.

Something like this..

Ahh, about the manager:
They brought me a car, I open it and see that there is not a single book in the set. I say - I will not take it, I will take it, but I will subtract the equivalent of 50 ye in hryvnia from the amount. The chauffeur first recruits the manager, then the director, etc., I am drawn into these telephone conversations .. I have already tensed.In about 20 minutes, as a result of all these conversations, three people swear to me to bring polygraphy as soon as possible, with the explanation that it was submitted to print just now. At the same time, the manager of the delongue says "I will come myself and bring you a book, since I have to come and teach you how to use the device when buying." On what we decided .. I did not deceive. I arrived three days later, brought a book, gave me a few hours of instruction (I didn’t learn anything new, but it was useful for my wife, since she just got to know the combine), cooked a cauliflower soup and steamed cod. In general, if they are reading this, then I endure thanks again. I felt a certain respect for the customer, which we lack or lack at all .. Vooot ..

It seems to me that you are the very "owner" of the site to which you threw off the link, so to speak black PR))))) and the registration date "today" is very alarming!
The site was thrown! do not get fooled by the people on him!
The scammers didn't even bother writing the grammar "karta-saieta"
it was very funny for me to read it was just uhahahbl))))
and in addition, those stores that do not leave the phone in 100% of cases are scammers !!!! be vigilant people !!!!
COMRADE MODERATORS take action to ban this black PR man!

Why such aggression? A person asks questions, the forum is intended for this. When I was also faced with a choice and the question of where to get it, the girls tried to help me, for which I thank them again. I remember you yourself were promoting a German store here, although you received a defective product.

yeah ..... you're in luck if that was indeed the case with your purchase .... then you're in luck! there are few such honest people at least .... but the fact that "I will come and teach you how to use" if it was said in the Russian Federation, then many would laugh at a joke =)))

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Why such aggression? A person asks questions, the forum is intended for this. When I was also faced with a choice and the question of where to get it, the girls tried to help me, for which I thank them again. I remember you yourself were promoting a German store here, although you received a defective product.

because I can distinguish between PR people and ordinary users question.
a person just registered and immediately gives a link, why would ??? to mislead the super-sweet prices that do not exist in the Russian Federation? mine stupidity !!!!
I PRIOR !!! ??? quote where it was !!?
I said that I bought over the hill and that everything went super !! I said this, BUT I DID NOT GIVE A LINK and did not want to give it until they asked me for it !!! and here is an explicit advertisement! and with the deliberate heating of people !!!
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yeah ..... you're in luck if that was indeed the case with your purchase .... then you're in luck! there are few such honest people at least .... but the fact that "I will come and teach you how to use" if it was said in the Russian Federation, then many would laugh at a joke =)))

By the way, the book is so-so .. under KM070. In European KM070, there are generally two books - cookery and confectionery, in hardcover + disc. And we have one small book. Soft binding is the worst of all, how can you make a cookbook in paperback ?! Artistic paperback, lying on the couch, and when hands are not up to the elbows in the test, you can still read, and then .. The printing is good, but the filling .. In some places there are typos, in some it seems like a wrong awkward translation, it seems that something was electronic, and then corrected the text. There are few errors, but there are .. In general, readable.
I do not know if I will violate any rights (but my conscience tells me that the quality of the book probably allows me to do this), if anyone needs it, I can drop a link to download the electronic version in the PM.

and everything is fine with me.quality book with different buns

at least there is a recipe book, but I only had 2 disks, and even then in a foreign language. And this at a huge cost.The firm promised to send, but did not bother.

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because I can distinguish between PR people and ordinary users question.
a person just registered and immediately gives a link, why would ??? to mislead the super-sweet prices that do not exist in the Russian Federation? mine stupidity !!!!
I PRIOR !!! ??? quote where it was !!?
I said that I bought over the hill and that everything went super !! I said this, BUT I DID NOT GIVE A LINK and did not want to give it until they asked me for it !!! and here is an explicit advertisement! and with the deliberate heating of people !!!
MODERATORS TAKE ACTION AND REMOVE LINKS TO THIS MOUNTAIN SITE !!!!

You cannot distinguish between PR people and ordinary users, I am not the owner of this site, I got caught when I was looking for where to order Kenwood for myself, but it’s funny to order here from Russia, I’m looking for German or English sites and trying to find out if there is a difference in the assembly or just go to the store and buy a Chinese assembly here, and I didn’t understand whether it was a scam or not, but in general I warned that if I’m a scammer, excuse me, you clearly followed the link without bothering to read the entire post, and I’ll delete the link myself don’t worry, it’s better tell me whose assembly you have and where you ordered it - so I realized that you also have a similar unit

ordered in germany, the assembly for all kenwood km of the series is the same

Thank you, they made life easier, as they say, when there is no choice as it is easier. Have you asked dealers about this issue? You have an excellent site, I have been reading it for a long time and found a lot of useful and interesting things

Good evening everyone. A week ago I bought a km010-070 (the last three digits indicate a complete set). Also 2 discs and without recipe book. But in the enclosed instructions there was an envelope and a questionnaire, which must be filled out and sent to the Moscow address at Delongi LLC. within a month, and they will send out a recipe book for free. This is for those missing the book.

it is possible there, but it is expensive there. and subtracting BAT is not entirely correct ...

expensive? the price of km 010 with a blender cost me 13.800 and plus 35 euros delivery for a total of about 15000. I did not find it for such a price in Moscow.

expensive? the price of km 010 with a blender cost me 13.800 and plus 35 euros delivery for a total of about 15000. I did not find it for such a price in Moscow.

so I'm not talking about Moscow, but all about the same Germany
who seeks will always find. but the prices there are not quite "German", but closer to Moscow, but a little lower (I mean, together with delivery)

Thank you, they made life easier, as they say, when there is no choice as it is easier. Have you asked dealers about this issue? You have an excellent site, I have been reading it for a long time and found a lot of useful and interesting things

what exactly were you interested in?

what exactly were you interested in?

I mean the assembly, where did you get the information that the entire CM assembly is China? I am so meticulously interested because I have repeated sad experiences with branded equipment assembled in China, whether they have their hands from the wrong place or I am so lucky, but with such a rather expensive equipment I want to be sure that there are no other options. Then, I don’t want to intrude, but why don’t you host a German website where it is cheaper? secret? I think not only it would be interesting for me.

I mean the assembly, where did you get the information that the entire CM assembly is China? I am so meticulously interested because I have repeated sad experiences with branded equipment assembled in China, whether they have their hands from the wrong place or I am so lucky, but with such a rather expensive equipment I want to be sure that there are no other options. Then, I don’t want to intrude, but why don’t you host a German website where it is cheaper? secret? I think not only it would be interesting for me.

yes, I posted it above in the subject, but I do not know if I wrote to the seller to agree to send it to the Russian Federation .... but try, I will not write a link here again just because it will be an advertisement, but I do not advertise it, there is a link above.
iPhones are also going to China, this is just a note

Yes, I posted it above in the subject, but I do not know if I wrote to the seller to agree to send it to the Russian Federation .... but try it, I will not write a link here again just because it will be an advertisement, and I do not advertise it, there is a link above.
iPhones are also going to China, this is just a note

I need not in the Russian Federation, but in the UAE, does the site officially send orders to other countries ?, is your link in the 2nd part of the "Marlezon ballet"?, Otherwise it’s a shame to shovel 80 pages, but it turns out that the link is even higher, I don’t understand what’s wrong with advertising .. As for apple, you are right (my only successful Chinese assembly)

I need not in the Russian Federation, but in the UAE, does the site officially send orders to other countries ?, is your link in the 2nd part of the "Marlezon ballet"? advertising .. As for apple, you are right (my only successful Chinese assembly)

believe me, if the product sends to the Russian Federation EVEN, then at least he can freely send it even to the moon, naturally at your expense
they sent me to Russia, I don't know your laws, but the language works wonders ...

Here they asked about the difference between KM and KMC marking 010 Kenwood, for example, KMC is almost 200 dollars. cheaper than KM, although they have the same equipment (as in Russia, KM013 with a multi-shredder, scales, a combine, a citrus juicer)

It cannot be so, there are still differences, for example, blender or metal, there may be different volumes, the multi-chopper has not 4 glasses, but three, the number of knives or drums for graters may differ ... Because of this, the price is different. However, this is not always stated both on the website and by phone.

Good evening everyone. A week ago I bought a km010-070 (the last three digits indicate a complete set). Also 2 discs and no recipe book. But in the enclosed instructions there was an envelope and a questionnaire, which must be filled out and sent to the Moscow address at Delonghi LLC. within a month, and they will send out a recipe book for free. This is for those missing the book.

Yeah, so they sent me Immediately sent the next day, they took money for sending the letter by mail (30 rubles - not a lot, but it's a shame). I've been waiting for 1.5 years, but I probably need 3

But in the enclosed instructions there was an envelope and a questionnaire, which must be filled out and sent to the Moscow address at Delonghi LLC. within a month, and they will send out a recipe book for free. This is for those missing the book.

Sorry, but I can’t find another word, I think it’s idiocy. Why print a questionnaire, is it spent on shipping? Is there really a sane person who doesn't want to have a book in his box with a combine immediately upon receipt of the purchase, which he essentially paid for?
Okay, in my case, it is still possible to understand that they did not have time to start the printing industry on time .. And then, with proper planning, in serious organizations that value their name, this should not have happened. But, to force people to write questionnaires (I do not raise the question of the law on the protection of personal data here), then go to the post office, waste time with one and one more word .. Who makes such decisions, why? Is this "saving" worth your money? What is the real profit from this?

Sorry, but I can’t find another word, I think it’s idiocy. Why print a questionnaire, is it spent on shipping? Is there really a sane person who doesn't want to have a book in his box with a combine immediately upon receipt of the purchase, which he essentially paid for?
Okay, in my case, it is still possible to understand that they did not have time to start the printing industry on time .. And then, with proper planning, in serious organizations that value their name, this should not have happened. But, to force people to write questionnaires (I do not raise the question of the law on the protection of personal data here), then go to the post office, waste time with one and one more word .. Who makes such decisions, why? Is this "saving" worth your money? What is the real profit from this?

in fact, few people use the book, and in Russia, as a rule, they are used to saving on everything, so they made a "crown innovation" so you should not be surprised that everything is done through the ass, in Europe there is a book in all sets.

Sorry, but I can’t find another word, I think it’s idiocy. Why print a questionnaire, is it spent on shipping? Is there really a sane person who doesn't want to have a book in his box with a combine immediately upon receipt of the purchase, which he essentially paid for?
Okay, in my case, it is still possible to understand that they did not have time to start the printing industry on time .. And then, with proper planning, in serious organizations that value their name, this should not have happened. But, to force people to write questionnaires (I do not raise the question of the law on the protection of personal data here), then go to the post office, waste time with one and one more word .. Who makes such decisions, why? Is this "saving" worth your money? What is the real profit from this?

This is necessary for conducting marketing analysis, where, to whom this or that car went, to draw up a portrait of the target audience. The book is a kind of bonus for helping with the survey, you give us your data, we will give you a book. So the marketing group of the company knows its target audience and sales markets, as well as through which media it should be attracted. For example, in Kazakhstan, at the moment, they sell a maximum of Kenwood 560, and if letters with completed questionnaires from this region began to arrive, stating that KM70 and other cars are being purchased here, then Kazakhstan would become their market for more expensive cars.

I support the previous speaker!)))
They are also interested in who buys where and how much ...
And this is not only their politics ...
We bought Samsung products, Canon products, and Ardo - everyone asks to fill out the questionnaire and send ...

This is necessary for conducting marketing analysis, where, to whom this or that car went, to draw up a portrait of the target audience. The book is a kind of bonus for helping with the survey, you give us your data, we will give you a book. So the marketing group of the company knows its target audience and sales markets, as well as through which media it should be attracted. For example, in Kazakhstan, at the moment, they sell a maximum of Kenwood 560, and if letters with completed questionnaires from this region began to arrive, stating that KM70 and other cars are being purchased here, then Kazakhstan would become their market for more expensive cars.

Then probably the founders of Kenwood, and in particular the whole of Europe, are stupid, complete, who do not know how to work and who distribute books along with the kit! what can I say? cool!

Then probably the founders of Kenwood, and in particular the whole of Europe, are stupid, complete, who do not know how to work and who distribute books along with the kit! what can I say? cool!

No, not stupid, if there are books in the kit, it is because a larger number of the population can afford expensive equipment - the income is higher and the price is lower than in the CIS countries. There, almost every family is their target audience, and here they need to study the sales market.

No, not stupid, if there are books in the kit, it is because a larger number of the population can afford expensive equipment - the income is higher and the price is lower than in the CIS countries. There, almost every family is their target audience, and here they need to study the sales market.

Well, yes, I completely agree with you, you have to be a complete sucker or a person devoid of intelligence to buy at the price that our hucksters sell it in the Russian Federation)))) it feels like they buy at the same prices as ordinary mortals in the EU
or is there another option that our greedy niggards are so greedy that they have so little fat and they need at least 300% of the nominal

We still have the car until it arrives, except for official taxes, everyone has to unfasten so much (everyone loves money here), hence the difference in price comes from.

It is necessary to conduct a marketing analysis, where, to whom this or that car went, to draw up a portrait of the target audience. The book is a kind of bonus for helping with the survey, you give us your data, we will give you a book. So the marketing group of the company knows its target audience and sales markets, as well as through which media it should be attracted. For example, in Kazakhstan, at the moment, they sell a maximum of Kenwood 560, and if letters with completed questionnaires from this region began to arrive, stating that KM70 and other cars are being purchased here, then Kazakhstan would become their market for more expensive cars.

I understand all this. This option can also be, or maybe the reason for this is even more banal, for example - they order small batches of printing, for fear of not selling the entire batch. Or maybe both, and something else, and all this is on the shoulders of the buyer.
I resent this way of doing business. If they want to study the target audience, please, just not at the expense of the money and time of people who ALREADY bought their products. Not only does the price differ from the cost price at times, but also these dances with tambourines to get what you ALREADY paid for. This all works against the company's customer-centric image. So there is no need to convince that this kind of business is the norm. In our former scoop, in most cases there is no business culture, there is no proper respect for the client. And why? Because they are used to it, if a business does not beat off capital investments in a year and does not bring 200% of income, this is bad business. This not normal.

I am the owner of Kenwood km020, I purchased an AT 957 A attachment (ice cream maker) - after unpacking there is a little chemical frost on the bowl with refrigerant and inside the box itself, as I understand it, some part of the refrigerant itself has leaked out. Should I change the nozzle or is it "in the scope of decency"?

Don't scare me like that, fellow Kenwood owner!
Today I ordered this ice cream maker, and here such passions ...
Owner colleagues, please respond :-)
Otherwise, it will simply not fall asleep at night :-)

The bowl must not leak!

Oh, sho, it reminds me a lot ...)))
"But how did you get off the plane, you had to remember ???
Should .... but I don't remember ((("
In other words, it shouldn't, but maybe ..
Thank you, upon receipt I will definitely pay attention to this moment.

[LKir!]

I am the owner of Kenwood km020, I purchased an AT 957 A attachment (ice cream maker) - after unpacking there is a little chemical frost on the bowl with refrigerant and inside the box itself, as I understand it, some part of the refrigerant itself has leaked out. Should I change the nozzle or is it "in the scope of decency"?

LKir!
Try to change the nozzle. Although this is one of the attachments that I am not very happy with. After a year of operation, the refrigerant also began to leak, now it has partially leaked out and the ice maker does not freeze well. My old 15-20 years old Mullinex now works better than Kenwood.

Thanks for the advice.
My ice cream maker has already arrived, I'm going to pick it up today!
I will discuss it from all sides, but I hope everything will be all right :-)

Hello, dear Kenwood lovers, the other day we bought Kenwood km 023 (your discussions helped a lot, thanks) I have a question for you about a blender, I have a metal one and during testing it could not cope with a strawberry cocktail, there were pieces of strawberry left and that after 4-5 minutes of whipping, can you tell me what could be wrong? 2 times disassembled and assembled. And in general, how do you beat blenders? without any complaints? Thank you in advance

I tried it once, and even abandoned it, I have this blender in a box that is not in demand.

Dasha, I have KM 020.
I used the blender in the mode of whipping pancake dough.
I liked it, only in the process you need to walk with a spatula along the ribs
blender so that the flour does not remain dry.
But this is a common problem with all glass blenders.
You just need to beat the strawberries with a little liquid first,
to break the strawberry pieces, and then add the rest of the liquid.
And then in a large amount of liquid that strawberry will hang out endlessly ...
Good luck with your use.
The car is a beast :-) :-) :-)

Alena, thanks for the advice, next time I will do so, but I suspect that TaTa is right, I had a cheap Kenwood combine with a blender before, I didn’t load the faq there. ml. 600-700 milk sugar, vanillin, ice, and it was not in my thoughts that the strawberries somehow had to be whipped first. And the machine is actually a beast and good luck in using it. By the way, if anyone has any questions about km 023, I will be happy to answer, so I understand that mostly people have 020 (I would also buy if I found)

We have a glass blender in honor, we make mashed soups, cocktails, pancake dough. Everything is fine !

Dasha, not at all :-)
And I was looking for a dough mixer, at first I wanted 010,
and 023 was with attachments and at an atomic price.
So we stopped at 020, and now he doesn't even
seems as big as at the beginning.

We have a glass blender in honor, we make mashed soups, cocktails, pancake dough. Everything is fine !

I’ve almost resigned myself to the fact that these machines do not shine with blenders, and the knives in it are sharp? I felt them - dumb dumb

I also wanted 010 007, I didn’t find it, we only sell complete sets, maybe I don’t know the simple ones, but the price of $ 1030 is about 023 km and $ 800 km013, and there should be a lot of good equipment just right

Yes, the knives are dull. There is one problem in the glass - you need a little liquid, then everything will grind into porridge.

[during testing, he could not cope with the strawberry cocktail, strawberry pieces remained]

during testing, he could not cope with the strawberry cocktail, strawberry pieces remained

You are clearly doing something wrong. My husband whips up liver pate in a blender, and you understand liquids there, only due to butter. I even make bread crumbs in it and that's it. First try to lay the strawberries and a small amount of milk, a funnel should form, then add through the upper hole in the lid to the desired volume (but I always put everything in at once, everything grinds perfectly).

Can you tell us more about the pate?
Interested :-)
Straight all at once to fold and blender?