Natusichka
Tulyok! Congratulations on your purchase! Successful bread and dough!

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Hello!!! take the new one. Yesterday I bought a st-ec7774 stourn, found a recipe based on sourdough with a detailed description: ".... after 3 hours I look inside, if the dough has risen enough, I start the" baking "mode for 1 hour and 20 minutes." to set it on the timer or how, in the instructions I can not find it anywhere. I start it works for 10 minutes and turns off.

I think that this is not on the timer, but you need to be present at home to see when the dough will rise. And, as soon as it has reached the standard (tobish has risen), turn on the baking for 1 hour 20 minutes (do you have a separate baking program? Usually a cake is baked on this program.)
VictoriaShov
Natusichka, thank you for the dough for dumplings, did I understand that it is made by hand? And if you still do it in HP? Will it turn out better or what?
About the type of Borodinsky ..... I don't even know. I have already translated so much flour from this very rye. Well, I can't get wheat-rye bread, and that's it. Cry at least. To begin with, I would have something simpler ..... Prices for flour nowadays bite .... And I feel sorry for my labor.
Natusichka
Vika! In principle, this dough can be made in cotton. The girls wrote what they did.
Valentina2m
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Hello!!! take the new one. Yesterday I bought a st-ec7774 stourn, found a recipe based on sourdough with a detailed description: ".... after 3 hours I look inside, if the dough has risen enough, I start the" baking "mode for 1 hour and 20 minutes." to set it on the timer or how, in the instructions I can not find it anywhere. I start it works for 10 minutes and turns off.
The timer is not set, the Baking mode lasts exactly 1 hour, on my Saturn 7773, on yours as your bread maker is one to one, but its baking weight is more, the mode is probably longer. I have already baked a lot at Baking, and now what would I help you, tell me how does it turn off, completely extinguish, or does it switch to the first mode, which is set by default? I had a story when I bought my Saturn 7773, well, nothing worked at all, then something else will turn off, I realized something was wrong for 3 baked goods, called the manufacturer's hotline, they said what needed to be carried to the service, dictated the address and the phone in my city, I took it, the bakery was beyond repair, they wrote out an act and I changed it to a new one in the store where I bought it. Here's a story, judging by the act, her control chip and thermal sensor were broken. You try to take a regular recipe for just white bread, bake in 1 mode, everything will work out or not, otherwise you can translate so many products !!!!
VictoriaShov
And tell the teapot what is the difference between the "Basic" mode and "French" mode in our HP, except for the duration? (3 hours and 3 hours 50 minutes)? I have another problem: I put my usual wheat bread not on the "Basic" mode (as always), but on the "French" -HP refused to stir the dough. Is this already a haplyk for a typewriter, or have I done something?
Valentina2m
What was required to prove, this is not a haplyk mixer, especially on a new stove, this is a problem with the stove itself, I'm afraid that I will have to carry it under warranty, sort it out right away if 14 days from the date of purchase did not pass to the store to change !!! And then it will come out like I was waiting for from the service, I still changed it to a new one in the store only by the act, and this is all the time !!!
Natusichka
Yes, Vika, it looks like the stove is showing off something ...
Freesia
And my bucket leaked! : (After 3.5 years of use
The husband is already looking for a new one, most likely from another manufacturer. In the meantime, I'm kneading the dough, I baked the bread yesterday, I don't even know it's possible with such a bucket. First I pour flour, liquid up
Valentina2m
and that there may be a washer that has flowed, so you can change it, I know from my LG friends, so they flow even faster, if you use it intensively, then in a year and a half, and if a bucket flows, the engine can burn out, I'm like an electrician with the highest!
Freesia
Thanks for warning! At first, the dirt stood out like plasticine. Then I poured a little water so that the mixer would soak, I see that all the water drained out on the table. The husband looked at the bucket, says that he will not unwind from below, everything is riveted
VictoriaShov
Girls, I don't know, maybe I want too much from, in general, an unpretentious technique, but it turns out like this: white bread according to the instructions (270-280 ml of water per 450 g of flour) turns out to be normal, but too loose structure - not for sandwiches good. I start adding flour (I read it from Admin), HP refuses to make the second batch. Back to the basic recipe-twists. And no one knows if, say, instead of 1.5 tsp. put yeast 1 tsp. l., and leave flour and water unchanged, will the bread turn out to be denser or will it simply not fit as it should? On a pack of yeast, I read (Lviv dry fast-acting) that 1h. l. need 400 gr. flour. Maybe it's my quirk like this: to taste like home, and in structure like a store? And also, tell me, who knows: what will happen if you first put flour and water at the end?
And yet, girls, I read there that the bucket has flowed, and they are going to buy HP from another manufacturer. Unfortunately, the so-called. the brand name of household appliances does not guarantee that it, this technique, is not assembled in some, sorry, Muhosransk. My daughter's touch button on the pontovo HP refused after 5 days of work. That's how lucky. Dont be upset. Pleasant oh, of course, a little, but let it be the biggest trouble in your life!
Freesia
I learned about a new bucket for a bread maker in Simferopol. They said at the service center - no problem, come, take 200-300 hryvnia worth it. I will buy it over time, but I am very used to this stove. I bought a new one, but the old one is nicer!
Julia V
Freesia is it you asked Saturn Miranda a bucket? If you order beacons for yourself, please, it would not hurt me either.
I am happy
Take the new one. Gave Saturn ST-EC8773 - I'm studying. She has two bowls of 600 g. The question is as follows. I put the dough in 125 ml of water, so it almost ran away. How much liquid you need to count to make ordinary bread. I understand that the recipes are mainly for a bowl volume of 1.2?
Julia V
2 containers cool
Natusichka
Kate, Congratulations! You can bake 2 different bread at once ??? Or is there only 2 identical ovens?
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According to the instructions, you can cook either in one or the same container, and if at the same time, then on the same program. The most interesting thing is that for advertising they wrote that you can simultaneously have different types of bread and jam, but sorry, or this or that, but in a double volume.
Natusichka
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According to the instructions, you can cook either in one or the same container, and if at the same time, then on the same program. The most interesting thing is that for advertising they wrote that you can simultaneously have different types of bread and jam, but sorry, or this or that, but in a double volume.
Here are the deceivers ...
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The seller in the store honestly said that you were working either one program for two containers or one container.
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Here are the deceivers ...
I thought much worse when I read the advertisements on the websites of the online store. And I wanted to ask why lie?
Julia V
Well, you can add bran to one bucket. And there will be two breads, white and with bran.
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Well, you can add bran to one bucket. And there will be two breads, white and with bran.
Agree. As soon as I master the elementary things, I'll start experimenting. Advise the simplest bread recipe - to be sure.
Admin
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According to the instructions, you can cook either in one or the same container, and if at the same time, then on the same program. The most interesting thing is that for advertising they wrote that you can simultaneously have different types of bread and jam, but sorry, or this or that, but in a double volume.

But why? You can bake pure wheat and wheat-rye bread at once in two buckets.It is important that the principle of making two loaves fits the same time program, for example, the Basic program. Checking the flour / liquid balance can be controlled in two buckets at once.

You can bake different breads in two buckets at once
Admin
Choose the simplest here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&board=499.0, recipes are also suitable for your x / stove

You can focus on this model, it is also with two buckets Binatone BM-2169 Bread Maker https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=17210.0
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Choose the simplest here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&board=499.0, recipes are also suitable for your x / stove

You can focus on this model, it is also with two buckets Binatone BM-2169 Bread Maker https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=17210.0
Thank you - I went to figure it out, now I'll come home from work and go in to manage.
I am happy
I report - I bake bread almost every day - it flies away instantly. : girl_dance: Baking and pure wheat and added rye flour - everything worked out and baked well, the only thing was that the top crust acquired the color I needed, only for the fourth time. I baked bread with sausage - I took it here on the site - my husband liked it. : yahoo: I can't shake the bread out of the mold normally - I shake it for a long time and the blade remains in the middle, I have to cut it and take it out when it cools down. : oCan someone tell me something? The ideal ratio of liquid to flour for my small molds is 160 ml of water or milk per 320 g of flour. It turns out bread weighing 430 g.
Thank you all for your help.
Julia V
My blade is firmly attached to the pin, but it suits me. the bread falls out without a paddle.
Natusichka
I am happy! This is a normal phenomenon, it seems to me that this is the case for everyone. I also shake, shake, sometimes the blade itself jumps out of the bread, sometimes you have to pick it out. And my daughter also!
lelik11
So. Hello everyone. I am also with you now. 2 weeks ago in Auchan bought a stove saturn st-ec1775 for one and a half thousand rubles. After reading the reviews, I thought for a long time that I was buying another cheap crap, but the price was fine, and if anything, it would not be too bad to put the "toy" in the closet. As a result, I realized that all bread machines are the same by the principle of operation, and why really overpay?
I report: we bake every day according to different recipes - ALL THE BEANS ARE BAKED AND THE VIEW IS BEAUTIFUL. Yes, we bought the scales right away - we measure the ingredients by them. 4 recipes were taken from a recipe book from a bread machine - everything is baked. I don't understand why some people can't bake with these recipes? I completely followed the recipes from the book and everything was baked.
I can say right away that I was a little messy with the choice of a bread machine - for our family, which eats bread 2 times a day, at best, we still had to choose a Saturn model for a 500-gam loaf, because 750g is a lot. Well, okay, half of the bread goes to relatives. (I'll play enough right now, I will bake once a week, probably). About this model, I can say that I am rather large - the size of a small microwave - now I am thinking where to attach it in a 5-meter kitchen (again, another model of Saturn, a black roll of this kind for 500g - half the size, only it has 5 programs and no timer).
According to the functions of the saturn st-ec1775 bread maker: did not understand why there are already 2 quick baking programs in this model? The bread on these programs is not ice. As a result, minus two programs with quick baking, you get only 8 baking programs + dough program + baking program. I don’t know yet, will they eat or not? The cake was baked - it turned out delicious, but not the same as the one ready-made from a bag for baking in the oven and the program for the cake - more than 3 hours. tired of waiting for him. As a result, the stove is very decent, there are a lot of programs, no negative points have been found yet. To taste, all the bread turns out to be as tasty as that of a friend in an expensive Panasonic (I really don't understand why then overpay for a brand, if by the principle of action they are all the same)
For those - who are going to buy Saturn bread makers, I can say that the recipes from the recipe book turned out - ALL ABSOLUTELY and on different programs. Simple recipes from the site also came up - everything was baked. They even baked wheat-rye bread (flour was 50/50 rye and wheat, baked on the "wheat" program).
I hope you won't grumble that I described everything in such detail. I myself, before buying, read the reviews.
Julia V
I generally only use two programs: main bread and dough
I am happy
And I keep looking at programs for fast and ultrafast bread. : girl_wink: In my book, the recipes for my eyes are not very successful, because I have empirically determined that I need less liquid. I use the basic mode - wheat, pasta, dough. I baked a cake - it turned out delicious, but I won't bake it anymore - I think that it will turn out no worse in a regular oven. I'm happy with my small molds. Today I kneaded the noodle dough for one glass of flour, so everything turned out great. The first days I baked every other day. Less often now. By the way, an interesting event happened the other day. I set the paste mode for 14 minutes. I pulled it out. I loaded everything for the bread, but the bread maker does not turn on. : cray: In short, I was soooo upset, I think, well, everything was covered with my HP - I could not stand such a tough exploitation. She rested for an hour and perfectly finished my bread. : Victory: I understand that a certain period of time must pass between the programs. Although dough mixing is not associated with heating. Now I'm not so scared anymore.
kam
Good day! I bought a Saturn ST-EC 8771 Ophelia bread machine. And now I cannot understand what is happening to her. I have experience with Delongy's bread maker, she behaves differently. I tried to bake on the "French bread" program, filled up the food, 2 mixers first pyrk pyrk (they tried to move slightly), and then they started to interfere normally (there were no such pyrk in the delongues), the kneading goes on continuously for 30-37 minutes. And that's it, mixing no longer occurs, after a time, about an hour, the stirrers again pyrk pyrk. at this time, the dough is being raised, then baking. This is my first bread in this bread maker, when baking was turned on, it fell by 2 centimeters, but I can still associate this with food, it seemed to me that there was not enough flour. Today I put bread on the "basic bread" program. One stirrer began to stir, the second only after I pushed it with my finger. Interfered for 37 minutes. No more mixing of the dough was observed, only a speck of speck every hour of the program. Now baking has started, but during all this time, the bun has only risen 2 times, it takes about half of the form. And now, what is this, a malfunction of the bread machine? Reviews about this company are very good.
I am happy
It's strange. Maybe you chose not the usual mode, but the fast one? At the beginning of the kneading, I also poke for 2 minutes, and then starts kneading at full strength and at the end of 30 seconds of the churning mode. But I have a plate with all the programs and the time of all processes - very convenient. The only thing that confuses is your second blade that does not work independently, if it continues, you need to change the HP.
Marta *
Girls, boys, does anyone bake in Saturn on the Wheat Bread program?
Isn't there a short kneading between the proofers?
I bake small breads, and when there is an opportunity, I try to watch over this crumbling in order to correct the dough (so that it does not turn too much, otherwise the finished bread is crooked and ugly), sometimes I take out the stirrer, iron the lid, and so on.
Today I put buckwheat bread, for the first time on this program, came to the time of kneading, I sit and wait - no! I came out twice, literally for a couple of seconds - once at the pen, once at the ruler. And the dough doesn't seem to be crumpled ...
If yes, no, this short workout, you can make everyday bread on this program ...
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I have it for sure.
Marta *
Yeah ... So, I did click through ...
In general, a good program, all stages are a little longer than in "Basic", you need to play with it ...
kam
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It's strange. Maybe you chose not the usual mode, but the fast one? At the beginning of the kneading, I also poke for 2 minutes, and then starts kneading at full strength and at the end of 30 seconds of the churning mode. But I have a plate with all the programs and the time of all processes - very convenient. The only thing that confuses is your second blade that does not work independently, if it continues, you need to change the HP.

Thanks for the answer. I definitely put the regime on French bread. And I already figured out what my mistake was: I most likely did not put the stirrer blades in parallel. I was making more bread, both blades worked fine. I just compared it with Delongy, but she works differently, there is nothing stabbing, but actively interferes.In the instructions I do not have timed processes (I did not find it on the Internet), I sit over it, study it myself. What I like is the baking quality, it bakes well inside and the bread stays soft.
Elena-luna
Hello!! Please tell me what these programs are: "wheat bread" and "unleavened bread". I bought a Saturn stove. I am very happy so far. Everything that baked was obtained the first time. But ..... the passport for the stove is somehow incomprehensible. There is no exact description of the programs. Maybe someone knows ??? Thank you!!
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Hello!! Please tell me what these programs are: "wheat bread" and "unleavened bread". I bought a Saturn stove. I am very happy so far. Everything that baked was obtained the first time. But ..... the passport for the stove is somehow incomprehensible. There is no exact description of the programs. Maybe someone knows ??? Thank you!!
Elena, you will specify which model the stove is and maybe the one who has it will tell you. I have no Unleavened Bread program. There is a Wheat bread program, but my model is ST-EC8773 - this is for two small bread, if necessary, I will write.
Elena-luna
Thank you for your answer !! And what kind of bread do you bake on the Wheat Bread program ?? I have mastered "Basic bread" so far. I bake all wheat bread on it, and although all this program is designed for more than 3 hours, and mine is -2 hours 54 minutes, everything is still going well for me. I have a Saturn EC0125 stove.
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On the Wheat bread mode, I bake all my breads and from premium and mix with the 2nd grade and even half-and-half with rye flour. I have this mode for the longest 2h 50 min. Often I bake all the same breads on the French bread mode 2 hours 40 minutes - I love the toasted crust.
Elena-luna
Thank you! But I think it's time for me to bake rye bread. And on what program do you bake rye bread ???
I am happy
I did not bake pure rye bread, because my husband does not like it. But I think that you can try on any program and see what happens.
yuryd
Hello! Anyone familiar with the Saturn ST-EC0127? Interested in the list of available programs (is there a dough?), Maybe there is an instruction. I was bribed by the price of this bread machine, a 2-year guarantee, a wide selection of bread weights of 500, 750 and 1000 grams. The lack of reviews, comments, recipes for it, and not only on this site, but also on the network in general, is alarming. Maybe this is an analogue of some other stove?
mare1979
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Elena, you will specify which model the stove is and maybe the one who has it will tell you. I have no Unleavened Bread program. There is a Wheat bread program, but my model is ST-EC8773 - this is for two small bread, if necessary, I will write.
Good evening, I wanted to contact you, could you write about baking bread in the ST-EC8773, I can't do it, it constantly settles.
Admin
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Good evening, I wanted to contact you, could you write about baking bread in the ST-EC8773, I can't do it, it constantly settles.

We read here Bread rises, but falls inside. Causes. https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=7690.0
And first of all, we learn how to cook bread dough, read the links here Bread did not work out again, I did everything strictly according to the recipe. What can be wrong? https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=146942.0 and especially the BREAD BAKING GUIDE
Castalia
First bread in Saturn and my first bread in general. Deliciously incredible. The simplest wheat.
Bread Maker Saturn ST-EC7775
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Quote: yuryd
Hello! Anyone familiar with the Saturn ST-EC0127? Interested in the list of available programs (is there a dough?), Maybe there is an instruction. I was bribed by the price of this bread machine, a 2-year guarantee, a wide selection of bread weights of 500, 750 and 1000 grams. The lack of reviews, comments, recipes for it, and not only on this site, but also on the network in general, is alarming. Maybe this is an analogue of some other stove?
I also have a model only 0124, recipes in the Internet, such as in the book are not even befitting. I will be good for you, even if you can use some recipes

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