Medtech
Marissa, In my opinion, none, but if there is no other choice, then a Panda 500 or higher is better suited for your apartment, but you will have to lock it in the rooms or change the position of the base more often, since the manufacturer claims that the cleaning area is 100m, but this is only in in an ideal case, in a special room, and even then just bought, and after a year the battery will work less ..
Room cleaning, they locked the robot in a room, after 30-40 minutes they transferred it to another, then took it for charging, then the next, you will be the robot operator. Maybe I'm exaggerating, because many users are satisfied, but the apartments of these users and the rooms are smaller and the demands of people are different, I collected the hairs well, and ran a napkin on the floor ... but it needs to be washed.
A turbo brush is much more effective than two small brooms that slide along the floor with side surfaces and sometimes throw dust and debris away from the robot: +)). But long hair will be all on the turbo brush of the above-named robots and they will have to be cleaned more diligently than Pаndu. Take its next version, with the ability to attach a napkin, it will be much more effective.
Marissa
Medtech, and if you order from ebay? I watch aiklebo arte there. If you need repairs that are completely paid, what is the approximate cost? of course I understand that it depends on the degree of breakdown, but still, at least approximately
Medtech
Marissa, Replacing the white robot board without repair cost a year ago cost 5000r. now it will probably be 8-10, plus you will be charged for diagnostics and for something else, you will meet at 10-12, so the benefit with the Korean is not great, you have already seen the difference in price with us and not ebay from 8 to 10 tons. Maybe even more if the robot is already defective or without a guarantee at all and the seller is slightly misleading you, there are many situations, you need to look at the seller's history, his reviews, how much he has already sold.
Venetian
Forum users, could you help with the choice?
I want to buy a robot for my parents, the introductory ones are: a small treshka, mostly short-haired synthetic carpets, long hair and animals are gone, there is a lot of dirt. Super-quality cleaning is not required, if it somehow vacuums it - it's already good, it's hard for them to clean themselves. I can't afford an expensive model, so I choose between something new but a cheap brand or points, but bu. Of the new cheap ones, we have Ariete and Vileda here, the prices are very humane, so you can probably even take the risk without looking, but maybe someone did see them? Or look for a second-hand rumba in the tyrnet (foreign portals are also available to me)? I have very little experience of communicating with such robots, I don’t know what to pay attention to ...
Medtech
Venetian, Carpets means a turbo brush, Ariete without a turbo brush and antennae can only rake garbage to the inlet, useless on rugs, Vileda is a copy of Rumba 4xx series, in America people still work, of course, but the quality of cleaning is so-so, and taking into account completely Chinese origin there will be only an appearance. If you want quality, then you have to pay for it. Buy Rumba 6xx series, they will sometimes lock it so that cleaning is more efficient, because this model is too small for 3, but it will be removed by 5. Or you need to raise the budget for more automated cleaning.
Boo needs to be looked at if only it worked, since everything except the board can be replaced at the rumba, usually when buying a bu I use the transfer of the robot to test mode and check almost all the parameters.
But it is enough to start the robot, put your hand under the robot from behind to check the operation of the turbo brushes, check the air exhaust from the back of the robot and send the robot to the parking lot and see how it is parked, the side brush is checked visually - it does not rotate, should move away from the obstacle, before buying it is worth watching the video of the work robot of real users.
Venetian
thank you very much, very valuable and detailed answer
Vera34
Quote: Marissa

MedtechI don't want to buy, you never know what's wrong with it ... So far I stopped at the following models: Panda X500 Pet Series, iClebo Pop, Roomba 631. Which of these is better to choose?
Ayklebo fell in price now, I looked at 2 thousand. The 780th rumba can compete with the Pop model .. now it costs about 32 thousand, aiklebo 20,000. Plus rumba are beacons, because Pop has no navigation, but rumba is still just as chaotic. it has a nickel-metal hydride battery, which gradually loses its capacity - after a year and a half on average. That is, the airrobot initially covers 80 sq. m, and in 1.5 years it will be 60 meters, etc. The iclebo has a lithium-ion battery, it is about a thousand recharge cycles, with almost no loss of capacity. Aiklebo has the ability to collect fine dust with a damp microfiber cloth.
Medtech
Vera34Everything would be as good as in the song, but not everything is so great in life, the manufacturer puts rubber scrapers in Arta, which quickly fail on carpets, now this figure has reached as much as 100 hours of work on 100% pile coverage, then the scraper breaks , stratified, the cost of ownership rises, 100 hours of work, this is 1 square meter per minute, about an hour and a half of the robot's work is less than 100 days, with daily cleaning not even six months. I hope you know the cost of the scraper? You probably have an old model with the Karpet lettering? The manufacturer will now earn more
Owners of smooth surfaces feel better, the scraper has a much longer lifespan. Lithium will live for 3-4 years with daily cleaning and will also reduce its capacity, and in the case of the Pop, the robot will also clean less time, unlike Arte, who will go to charge, and then continue cleaning. The cost of owning Rumba Series 5/6/7 among robots is quite low and can be repaired almost everywhere, and the price of 631 also dropped to 20,000 at the most officials. Pop is a good robot but not for rugs.
Vera34
I don't know the cost of the scraper, really. I have a low carpet, or is there no difference for it between this and a full-fledged fleecy carpet? For half a year, almost until we have this robot, a scraper like a whole, specially went and examined everything.
Maybe you can tell me about washing robots? We had a conversation with a friend the other day and she said that those who have warm floors (with heating) should not start such equipment, right?
Medtech
Vera34, There is an opinion, but if you take a scuba, then he doesn't care, he does everything under him, collects dust, sprays water, rubs with a brush, collects water, then what remains behind him can dry out on its own if the warm floor dries faster. Just like Braava or mint, he does the same thing as you do with an ordinary mop, carry a damp cloth back and forth, do you really wash your floors on the sea? spilled water on the floor and drive it to the drain hole? Many have heard about scuba about its 3 or 4-step cleaning, but all this cleaning is done under the robot, only at the end, when the robot runs out of clean water, it drives around for order and pretends to dry the floor. You need to see for yourself how the robot cleans. Because all the stories about robots are subjective.
One robot seller told me that Arte, which iClebo, after a few cleanings, begins to recognize the apartment and even its owners, said that the robot is getting used to the apartment ... to the question - and if you take the robot to the neighbors to show how it works, he will again make mistakes in his apartment ? I was told that they buy robots for themselves, and not distribute them to neighbors ... Even like those people who need to understand and know what they are selling, they sell just to sell and tell tales to raise the image, a robot, speak teeth to customers, someone likes it and then all sorts of exaggerations arise.
If your floors are not heated to 50 ° C, then everything is in order, the robot will work the same way as everyone else.
Vera34
Charm, I directly saw this seller, with tenderness stroking the robot, which substitutes him, and only him, his fleecy tummy (I looked for a scraper on the Internet, by the way, 300 rubles)
It turns out that if the floor dries quickly on its own, the scuba will still ride and supposedly dry it and spend a charge, can it not be stopped?
Medtech
Vera34, so the robot does not know about this, only the operator has eyes, and the manufacturer provides such an opportunity, you can stop it, but the charge will still be enough for 450 for one large or two small washings, if of course you put a lithium-ion battery there will be more, but this will be known only after you gain experience in cleaning your apartment in your own conditions.
Vera34
It is clear that he does not know, but in theory, there must be some kind of floor humidity sensors. Ideally, this is a "wet" technique
Medtech
Vera34It seems to me that you are starting to idealize the robot, it does not have so many sensors - and therefore wet or wet cleaning is always in the presence of the operator, as long as only the operator can exercise control and correct the position, because if the dry robot gets tangled, breaks, it gets stuck. It will not do any damage if only a couple of laptops or phones are pulled to the floor by the charging wires, and if the robot gets stuck with water and pours a puddle on the seemingly moisture-resistant coating, which with prolonged exposure will not be very moisture-resistant? or the robot with a damp cloth will stop and will not go further, the cloth will fade out after a while, a stain from a damp cloth may appear on the coating, and the only savior of the situation will be the operator who will assess and save the situation. Therefore, all options with wet or wet cleaning without an operator are almost impossible, you can get around, but the manufacturer does not assume this.
Alenka212
My scraper broke after a year at Iklebo. Somewhere by 1cm. Cut off. While working on.
Medtech
Alenka212, the scraper is not at all expensive, in the region of 300 rubles. apparently the shipment will be more expensive ...
Alenka212
Yes, while keeping a stiff upper lip does not affect the quality of cleaning. I chose a robot from the office. representative in our city. So I think it will be easier.
After a year, I can say for sure. My Iklebo is that assistant, whose appearance I have never regretted.
Olesya74
Medtech,Please help me pick up a robot vacuum cleaner to clean the house.
I decided to take them on the 20th anniversary of married life, instead of a romantic trip for two (my husband is very angry, and I became pragmatic), it became very difficult and long and tired to clean up, to be honest. There are no helpers, only 4 men in the house (husband and 3 sons) who do not help very often.
About the apartment: I have a "pocket" in a panel house consisting of a 4-room apartment and a 3-room one, an area of ​​140 square meters, ordinary rooms with many nooks and crannies because of furniture, the largest is 20m, everywhere is linoleum, tiles are only in the "pocket" and baths. There are minor problems with the tiles, or rather with the joints: the transition to the apartments is tiled, like a ramp at angles of about 45 degrees (due to the uneven level between the apartments, nothing else was invented) There are no porches in the house, there are several rugs located by the beds or sofas. We don't have animals, but there is a lot of long hair from my head of hair. That's probably all. Yes, I would like to limit the budget to about 45 thousand rubles. In our city there is a representative office of iRobots with service, and in other household appliances stores there are only models: Neato, LV, Kitfort, Ariet and Panda. I will not buy on the Internet, because I do not like "a pig in a poke"
Thank you in advance for your answer, for your responsiveness and comprehensive information in the responses to the forum participants, Before your experience and erudition
Serenity
My experience and erudition for traveling and husband
Olesya74
Serenity have already found a compromise. For my half of the trip we will buy robots, and for the half of my husband’s trip we will go to rest for a few days. Not much, but the romance will remain !!!
Olesya74
I study robots all the time. I sympathize with Aiklebo Arte, but unfortunately they do not sell him in Kemerovo. : I saw videos about him, it seems that he removes "consciously".
Dear forum users, for whom does this robot work, what are your impressions of it? Please share?
I also liked the floor polisher Brava, the reviews about him are generally good.But today I saw a video of him wiping the floor (foreign), where he skips the plots. Who has such a polisher Brava, how do you like the quality of its cleaning? Share your impressions?
Vinochek
Olesya74, I myself chose between Bravo and Aiklebo. The fact that Bravo does not collect garbage in a container, but on a rag immediately pushed me to Aiklebo. Now he has been serving faithfully for six months. I am very satisfied. And you can order it online.
Olesya74
Vinochek, thank you very much for your feedback.
Do you use ayclebo wet cleaning? How do you like its quality? And it is true that if aiklebo needs to change a rag in the process of work, then it perceives the disconnection, "how to start all over again" and does not continue from the place where it was stopped?
Alenka212
Olesya74, Aiklebo cleans according to the program (trajectory) specified by you. I like to put auto + Max, because I do not start it every day. He then cleans first along a snake (auto), and then along a path known to him alone until it is completely discharged. total cleaning time is one hour and 18-22 minutes. It turns out very clean, there are no missing sections.
If time is short (guests are on the doorstep), just Auto.
And Aiklebo has the opportunity to put a platform with a microfiber cloth (I still can't try it in a year). somehow there was no need yet.
Alenka212
Olesya74, it can also be launched from the base, or from any other place. Where you took it, you can put it there after replacing the rags (this I guess theoretically).
I judge by dry cleaning. If suddenly it is jammed (for example, I somehow caught a carnation in the brush), I remove the reason for the stop and put it in the place from which I raised it. The cleaning time naturally starts from scratch, and the cleaning itself continues.
Olesya74
Vinochek, Alenka212, girls, thanks!
Vinochek
I rarely use wet for one reason - I have a room + kitchen of almost 80 sq. one cloth is not enough, and there is no desire to run and change it every 10 minutes. Launched in small rooms - cleans perfectly. Even at first she poured water on the floor specially in different places and checked - everything is fine!
One more thing. cleaning I have a daily schedule. But now the floors are not washed every day, but every 2-3 days. And all thanks to the Kid (that's how I affectionately call the robot - the Kid works!)))
Olka I
Quote: Alyonka212
Yes, while keeping a stiff upper lip does not affect the quality of cleaning. I chose a robot from the office. representative in our city. So I think it will be easier.
After a year, I can say for sure. My Iklebo is that assistant, whose appearance I have never regretted.
Alain, can you tell me the address of the representative office in Voronezh?
Medtech
Olesya74,
In your situation, you should take a closer look at the Botvaks, you should think about the numbers yourself, but the hair is not collected by a plastic brush, all long hair from it fly into the trash, but it roars when cleaning much stronger than combined with bristles, but 20-30% of the collected hairs on they remain in the middle, they are removed with one movement of the hand. Filter brushes can be purchased at retail and much cheaper than from the officials, due to the release of the updated Botvakov D in a different color scheme, for now simple big discounts, you should take this into account.
iKlebo perceives lifting the robot above the floor as the beginning of building a new map and a new cleaning, users manage to lift the robot quite a bit above the floor to replace a cloth, and fine motor skills will help. And long hair on iKlebo will be all on the brush, the new brush of which is now completed by all robots is much more loyal to long hair, they do not tighten the brush as before, it is easier to clean.
The owners of specific robot models are often very biased towards their robot, which makes it difficult to critically notice some of the shortcomings during cleaning and operation. For iKlebo, it is desirable to start in the daytime or turn on the overhead lighting at dusk, since orienteering only by the gyroscope often brings the robot down and when cleaning multiple rooms, the return to the base is not always stable. You should rent a robot from friends, relatives in order to understand and evaluate a specific model in your apartment, personal experience is the best assistant in choosing.
Olesya74
Medtech,
Thank you for such a comprehensive answer. Indeed, first I will rent a robot and see how it works.
IngaB
Tell me about Kavity elipse pro 5
Medtech
Recently I bought this robot for 1 thousand rubles, one transistor on the board was faulty, the robot is brand new, complete, it has an analog much cheaper - QQ-5, Clover and Wedge V Series. This robot is manufactured by Lilin Group in China. Sellers sell under their brands and logos
After the repair, I naturally checked it, this robot has a wonderful fan, just excellent.
Unfortunately, there are no more advantages.
Naturally, it was put up on Avito, in any ad it says that I advise on the selection of robots for an apartment, repair, buy out used and faulty ones.
The robot was bought by a woman, she never asked me how the robot cleans up, whether it is suitable for an apartment, she was only interested in how much the robot would work after repair.
I hope she has smooth floors and a one-room apartment without animals, carpets and one tenant who comes once a week to watch the robot drive.
If I bought this robot for myself in a rental park, I would not pay more than 1000r for it, its excellent qualities that the seller describes are no longer worth it. Alas.
If you dig deeper on this forum, you have already voiced some troubles with the repair of this robot in one store with numerous names, in them the price for other robots is much lower and they accept orders for all robots that have ever been sold, but only caviti can sell you.
IngaB
You scared me ... I read reviews on the Internet, almost all of them are positive, and the store has really the lowest prices for any model.
Can you then advise something else? you need a robot vacuum cleaner in a country house, the area is more than 200m, laminate and tiles, the price is not important
Medtech
IngaB
But I did not voice the real dimensions of the dust collector of which there are two, in one with a volume of 2 matchboxes dust is collected from an excellent fan, in another with a volume of 4 matchboxes what the brushes have planned, when pulling out the dust collector from a large part everything tries to fall out, in short, this horror-horror a robot, we need to describe it more specifically with pictures, but it’s painfully nothing to write, only a fan and ultrasonic sensors add originality. And of course it's not Korean, only to sweep the table.
The topic contains 10 simple questions for selecting a cleaning robot for a specific apartment, it is pointless to advise without answers to them, answer all, if you have already voiced answer again, it is much more pleasant to see all the answers together.
Medtech
There are no questions in this thread. Let them be here too
1. The area of ​​the apartment?
2. Number of rooms?
3. Size of the largest room or combined space?
4. The composition of the coatings?
5. The presence of animals and which ones?
6. The presence of long-haired with a hair length of more than 25cm?
7. Who will service the robot (clean, empty the bin, watch)?
8. How do you imagine the work of a robot?
9. Are you ready to adjust the apartment for robotic cleaning?
10. Budget?
IngaB
1.more than 200
2. 7
3. 40
4.laminate + tiles
5.cat
6.no
7.owner)
8.would like it to replace my work, but at least support
9. ready
10.not important
Medtech
IngaB iklebo Arte, Botvak with any numbers, Kobold Worverk VR-200,
Samsung SR20H9050U.
VitaVita
Medtech, Good day to all! I am also tormented by a choice. Sergei! You have such a rich experience of communicating with robots))) What do you recommend?
1. 78
2. 3
3. 22
4. Tiles + parquet flooring, rug in the hallway
5. No
6.1 - allergic to dust
7. Mistress
8. I want to walk barefoot)))
9. Yes
10. I'm ready to pay for the pleasure)))
Many familiar I-robots have a Roomba 6-7 series. Satisfied (except for cleaning hair brushes)
I'm leaning towards Roomba 870. Would you like this choice?))
Medtech
VitaVita, yeah, but it is worth considering that the hair in the 8xx series is still wound, but unlike the previous ones it is easier to remove them.
You can also consider Botvak with a flat silicone brush, there will be almost no hair on the brush, but it is noisier with this brush, if cleaning in the machine without your presence is not an obstacle.
It should also be borne in mind that robots to maintain cleanliness, with frequent work intervals, every day, every other day, maximum after 2, robots are very rarely suitable for cleaning once a week, depending on the circumstances.
IngaB
Quote: Medtech
IngaB iklebo Arte, Botvak with any numbers, Kobold Worverk VR-200,
Samsung SR20H9050U.
Thanks for the advice!
If the floor space was not 200, but 100, would you recommend iRobot?
Medtech
IngaB, I help to select a robot for only one apartment, if you are interested in choosing a robot for another apartment - write in a personal.
IngaB
Medtech, No, not for another apartment. It's just a house, two floors, 100m each, I’m unlikely to launch the robot all over the house at once), most likely one day - one floor, so it turns out that you can choose a smaller area.
I want iRobot for some reason, there are a lot of good reviews here
Medtech
MedtechThe rule is one for everyone - one apartment once, if you like it and no one can forbid you to buy it
plod7
Medtech,

I made an experiment, here's a video where my robot got stuck, I can't even watch it, I'm very sorry for him. There was also some extraneous sound.
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Links to the video, I cannot insert into the message, it does not work.
Medtech
plod7,
You have a striped rug with black stripes, the robot thinks that it will fall through an abyss and cannot drive away because furniture interferes with it, you will have to glue your abyss sensors with paper or opaque tape, otherwise it will always be like this, try it, there are no stairs in your apartment? Then they can be safely glued, more daring users simply put the LED and the photodiode together in the sensor, preventing their galvanic connection, so that the IR radiation better hits the photodiode.
plod7
Medtech!
There are no stairs. It drives well from all sides, but here it cannot, I wrote on this place the floor is not even. I will not run it there. Now the sound worries, like a tractor appeared today, you can hear it in the video, please listen. And he drove under the sofa and scratched the black case on top of himself, can you glue it?
Medtech
plod7, scratches are like scars, adorn the robot: +)).
On Avito, I saw a robot all covered with masking tape so as not to scratch, one problem, after six months the adhesive of the tape dissolves the surface and adheres tightly to the plastic, so cleaning it off from the tape will be even worse than the appearance of scratches. If you are so worried about the appearance of a robot, then it is worth raising the sofa on the spacers so that the robot can move freely and do not leave scratches,
You tape the sensors and see the result.
The metallic sound is similar to the side brush, this is its frequency, you can unscrew the side brush, pull it off, remove hair and debris under it. You can run without wearing a brush in order to exclude the brush and listen to whether there will be this metallic sound. You can turn on the test mode of the robot and go through all the tests step by step and find out what makes this sound, here is the link 🔗 .
plod7
Medtech,
Thank you. You have calmed me down a bit. I will try to do as you said.
plod7
Medtech,
I did not succeed in manual testing, probably I did something wrong. Is there no video on this topic?
Also, please tell me, when it works, should there be a sound, as if the clock is ticking? I've already cleaned everything up.
Medtech
turn off the robot by pressing the Wedge button, simultaneously press Wedge and Dock and hold, press the Spot button 6 times, release all buttons, the robot will sing a completely different song and all the lights that may be on will start blinking, the next test is the Dock button, the previous test is the Spot button, you can press the Dock button intermittently and you will get to the tests of wheels, brushes and fan and then you can find out what the clock is knocking. The video is most likely there but in English.

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