Baking in Zelmer 43z010

I baked 100% sourdough black bread without yeast. It turned out well. Included on the whole grain mode. I waited for the approximate completion of the final lifting operation and turned off the stove. That is, it turned out to turn off in 1h 5min - 1h 15min. before the end of the program. Then I waited for another couple of hours when the dough would double in comparison with the dough after kneading. I put it on baked goods. I will tell you about one nuance. After completing the second kneading, the bucket was covered with an adhesive film (in the store, such products are wrapped) so that the moisture did not evaporate and a crust did not form on top. In addition, the film helped to keep the heat inside the bucket. For me this is important because the apartment is cold. True, the air access to the dough decreased, but the dough rose. It is a fact.
I did not use the recipes from the instructions. Because I don't eat bread with yeast.
I remember my top crust was not crispy and poorly baked when the bread did not rise well. But in such situations, the sides were heavily baked. When the bread rose well, everything seemed to be fine. I think it's important what ingredients you use.
I don't think it's worth doing this. Since during kneading due to friction, they will already be heated to room temperature and above.
This is the first time I've baked bread using the beginner's instructions from Admin. Everything worked out well for me. Try it. You may be weighing the ingredients incorrectly. For example, you weigh the weight of flour in ml, but you need to weigh it in grams.

Can you make dumplings in this oven?

kleskox35, and what model do you have. Outwardly, I like ZELMER 43Z010 more, but it's embarrassing that it is only 450W in power. the second model has 715BT. So I think 450 is not enough? will it bake well.

I have a model 43Z011, I do almost everything in it! Up to 1.6 kg of yeast dough kneads at a time without any problems!

Just yesterday I made a mountain of dumplings and dumplings, the dough turned out to be cool, soft, elastic, the dumplings turned out - just class!
Now I want to try making noodles for Easter too - of course Easter cake, I have never tried it yet.

kleskox35, yes, but your model has a power of 715W, so I'm interested in 450, is it very little? Will she be able to cope with quality baking and dough kneading.
It is interesting that our model costs almost a thousand less, despite the fact that it is more powerful, although in the one that I like programs not 8 but 12.

Honestly, I don't know if she can handle it, even with my 8 functions of a bread maker, I practically do not use the programs "cake" and "sweet bread" ... well, maybe Jem would have poyuzala ... and so I just have plenty of functions, but power is important! And it is cheaper just because of the number of programs ...

indeed, power is important. And here it will obviously not be enough. And I think there will be no need for 12 programs. She is just outwardly attractive, in the photo anyway.

indeed, power is important. And here it will obviously not be enough. And I think there will be no need for 12 programs. She is just outwardly attractive, in the photo anyway.

It seems to me that it doesn't matter what power, just in a bread maker with a higher power, the heating ten will turn on less often than in a less powerful one in order to maintain the desired temperature. I am very pleased with my bread maker, I always get ruddy baked bread (except for the first time), all programs are excellent (especially for baking dark bread), only the quick programs are not very good, but I don't use them. For Easter, she baked Easter cake on "sweet bread". Above all praise ...(but this will be a special thanks to the author of this masterpiece in a completely different topic ...) In general, I think that the more different programs, the more field for activity ...

I forgot to tell the owners of Zelmer 43Z010: a bucket and a stirrer from the AURORA AU480 bread maker fits (that is, absolutely identical) to our bread maker, so if we suddenly have a problem with our own spare parts, we go to the Aurora serial center and take a replacement. We bought Aurora for a gift and accidentally found such a pleasant coincidence

Hello citizens!
I have trouble with my zelmer ...
before the first use I read a lot on the forum, between uses I read a lot on the forum ...
baked 5 (five) loaves in three days and not one of the roof even had the color of the sides, but just white
I even tried to cover the viewing window with a towel, as here one lady suggested ...
I use dry yeast, added sugar in different quantities, Altai flour or ours, but also good ...
I have such a suspicion that it heats up weakly or. which is more likely, my hands are not from there

I have tefal, but the problem is the same. I tried everything !! well EVERYTHING! Nothing helps. Than I just didn’t cover, both outside and inside. With what I just did not bake. The result is still the same - a light top crust. It's sad, but I'll have to come to terms with it.

I wonder ... do we have technical geniuses? In Panas, it is enough to tighten some screw and the problem is solved, maybe you can do this with your x / p ... well, or in extreme cases, you need to service

my husband said that nothing could be tweaked in ours. Pity

does it mean that the matter can really be in the apparatus?

The matter may be in the device and in the voltage in the network ... this was also encountered on the forum in discussions, do you have exactly 220V in the network? In private houses there are fewer, and in apartments it is also found ...

Maybe in a sprinkle, of course, but today I baked buns with raisins in the oven (kneading in HP) ...
dog with her .. All Happy Holidays!
May God give us a peaceful sky over our heads ...

I bought a Zelmer 43z010 impressions sea-stove good argument no-but the instruction is bad-before buying in the net I read-baking a cake-yes-and now I can’t figure out which mode the cupcake oven is-no cyclic decoding of modes and there is no cupcake mode on the panel and still, can someone tell me what kind of baking mode is in this oven without mixing, thanks in advance

I have tefal, but the problem is the same. I tried everything !! well EVERYTHING! Nothing helps. Than I just didn’t cover, both outside and inside. With what I just did not bake. The result is still the same - a light top crust. It's sad, but I'll have to come to terms with it.

Why put up with this!
Bake in baking mode for 5-10 minutes and the crust will be just what you need! Just watch!
Of course it won't work in delayed mode ...

I bought Zelmer for my parents yesterday. I baked a test loaf of white. There are suspicions that this oven is better than mine (moulinex) in terms of the result. This recipe has already been rolled in, this bread turned out with a perfect crust (the mule burns too much and the crust is too thick), a pleasant medium color and a beautiful roof and the crumb structure is not as leaky, but like a high-quality city loaf.

Who baked by timer, tell me. How do I have to calculate the end time of baking. In the instructions they contradict themselves, nothing is clear.
Let's say I need to get bread in ten hours. I must enter a 10-hour delay on the timer (and the smart machine will figure out when to turn on, taking into account the selected baking mode), or I myself must subtract the baking time and the hour of keeping warm from these 10 hours and enter the remainder into the timer (i.e. I should get 10 hours in total).

Yesterday I also bought zelmer 43z010 for my parents. In my opinion this is mode 4. SWEET (SWEET BAKERY). Look in the recipes in this mode, a fruit cake is baked on baking powder (we have baking powder or baking powder, do not try their recipes, take them from the site!) Hence the conclusion: the same cupcake mode.
Using the same deductive method, she established that mode 9.DOUGH (PIES AND CAKES) and further they say "for baking pies and cakes" this is a yeast dough mode. In this mode, there is no further baking. Hands off someone for such instructions or translations from the original .... It's good that I already have experience of communicating with the bread maker. I'll try to bake a cupcake, sign off what happened.

Baked a cupcake. The oven needs to be in 12 "baking" mode, loaded at 700 gr. After the signal, I set the baking for another 5 minutes right away (the oven allows), so that it would brown more beautifully, although after 1 hour the cake was baked.
Mode 4. SWEET (SWEET BAKING) is intended for cakes with yeast. It is not suitable for a cake on baking powder.

I already wrote in a personal - for the cupcake, probably still mode 7

Mode 7 is fast baking. I don’t know what the stove is doing. Written for baking white bread. If in this mode she heats up something to rise and then bakes, then this is not suitable for a cake. All the same, you need to stir the eggs by hand, then knead everything, pour and bake. In my mulinex, the cupcake mode consists of kneading for 15 minutes and then baking. So bake at 12, don't miss. Good luck!

Chicken, baking time is included in the delayed time, at least in my model, that is, if I put on the delay 10 hours, the bread will be ready in 10 hours exactly.

Thank you. It's just that in the instructions:
". By the time of the deferral, after which
rogo the baking process should begin, it is necessary to add the operating time of this program and one more hour after the end
the baking process.
For example:
The time is 20:30, and the bread should be ready by 7:00 the next morning - that is, after 10 hours and 30 minutes. Press the TIME button
until the time 10:30 appears on the display, i.e. the time from now (20:30) to the moment when the bread is finished
be ready. "
As it seems to me, the first part of the instruction contradicts the second, so I got lost.
And now the question has arisen again. In 10 hours, will I get the bread that has stood for an hour in the warmth? After all, the bakery considers this to be the end of the program, and not the actual end of baking?

No, the heating hour is not included in the program

Hello everyone! Has anyone tried to make jam? What result did you get? There is another question, what is gelling sugar?

There is another question, what is gelling sugar?

Look for the answer in the topic about sweet preparations https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&board=441.0

Good afternoon to all users of HP Zelmer!

I got this miracle recently (Zelmer 43Z011) - 2 weeks ago. Thanks to the forum, we have already managed to bake several loaves of bread according to different recipes (ordinary wheat, wheat-rye with kefir, wheat with kefir with honey and raisins), twice made dough for pies in KhP. The results make me and my family happy!

However, a lot of questions remain, thanks to the unsuccessful instructions for the HP, which have already been discussed here. For example - I can't imagine baking a French loaf (the recipe for which is given in the instructions for HP) ... Maybe it just doesn't reach me: how can I put 2-4 long loaves in a small bucket of HP (according to the instructions)?

Still reading the forum I don't understand - what modes "Dough" and "Baking" are constantly talking about? There are no such modes in our HP! There are only different baking modes, which include a full cycle - from kneading to the final result. How, then, is it possible to "separate" these processes if, according to the recipe of the same French loaf, it is required, for example, to postpone the dough for 30-40 minutes, and then place it in the oven and bake? Even if I interrupt the cycle by pulling the cord out of the socket after kneading the bun, how can I then continue it with baking?

P.S. Until now, I have been making all my baked products in a full cycle in BASIC mode, without interruption. I have not tried other modes yet.

I will also ask one question that worries me.
I dare not try delayed baked goods. Because until now I had to follow the process of forming a bun, help him, raking the stuck dough from the walls with a spatula, sometimes add a little flour, in short, intervene in the process.It seems to me that if you just fall asleep and leave everything overnight, the result in the morning will not please ...

In addition, I never dared to just fill in dry yeast among other ingredients (I have SAF-Levure), because following the instructions for them, I first dissolve them in warm water, and then I pour them into HP. But in the delay mode, this number will not work, as I understand it .... So how can you please yourself by waking up from the smell of freshly baked bread? Share your experience, please !!!!

Ele_sku, do not be afraid to knead it without your participation, the main thing is to pour the proportions exactly, I regularly use the delayed mode in mine and there have never been any impurities!

Dough mode is a mode for kneading dough: 20 minutes kneading, 1 kneading, total time of 1 hour 30 minutes and Bake only mode - baking for 1 hour. You just didn't understand the modes while I also use them regularly and I'm very happy.

Thank you for your answers and support, kleskox35!

So the Bake only mode is actually baking? And not just frying the crust, as the instructions say? Once again I am perplexed - how could such an instruction be issued?

And what about the rest of the questions - about long loaves and preliminary dissolution of PAF yeast?

The loaves are only in the oven, that is, please knead, but you can only bake them in the oven!
SAF yeast comes in levure and instant. Look for the packaging that says mix yeast with flour. They are usually sold side by side. If it is written to dissolve first, then dissolve, only you can not wrap yourself up with separate eggplants. pour the liquid into a bucket, pour in the yeast and while you sift the flour, add everything else, they will dissolve perfectly. Layer order and flour yeast are only needed for delayed baking.

So there is a discrepancy in the instructions again? I quote - page 52: "French loaf. DOUGH program. Divide the prepared dough into 2-4 parts, form into long loaves and set aside for 30-40 minutes. Make several diagonal cuts on top and place in the oven."

[DOUGH]

So there is a discrepancy in the instructions again? I quote - p. 52: "French loaf. Program DOUGH... Divide the prepared dough into 2-4 parts, form into long loaves and set aside for 30-40 minutes. Make some diagonal cuts on top and place in the stove. "

DOUGH program is TEST. the finished dough must be molded and baked in the oven.
If you have add. adaptation to x \ n, you can bake in it.

I bought myself a Zelmer 43ZO10 bread maker and made bread according to the joint recipe of kleskox35 and sue. The crust also turned out white, I had to turn on bake only for another 45 minutes. What is the problem I don't understand?
I'm not entirely sure that this applies to this topic, but a beginner and I don't know where to go either. How to customize recipes to fit our bread maker?

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I bought this ZELMER 43Z010 for my parents, in general, it bakes bread, but it bakes it for 10 minutes. not 45 !!! Take recipes From this site, see the reviews at the bottom of the recipes, watch out for the bun, it should not be too hard in lumps, the bread will not be baked.
But in general, there is a sin behind the stove, the crust is slightly undercooked. Fighting option: Make the recipe less weight, and set the weight more in the program, the baking time will increase, perhaps this will be enough.
Try it, in general, the oven is good! (For example, Moulinex burns through it all the time !!!)
And expose the crust all the time dark!

I bake it on a medium crust just fine and in an hour. I didn't have to use the dark mode and bake ... this is already the second person such a problem. Is the voltage in the network normal? You have a private house or apartment. THIS COULD BE AND FROM A LACK OF VOLTAGE IN THE NETWORK!

The voltage is normal. The house is not private. So nobody answered me. How to customize the recipes and is it even necessary to do this for our stove?

So nobody answered me. How to customize the recipes and is it even necessary to do this for our stove?

For your bread maker, you need to customize the recipes according to the requirements for kneading and baking bread in the bread maker - see the Baking Basics section https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&board=22.0

If you are new to x \ n, start with the topic Bread Baking Tutorial.
Use the bread recipes from our forum, they are quality tested https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&board=54.0

Our bread recipes are suitable for any type of cotton

Just yesterday I made a mountain of dumplings and dumplings, the dough turned out to be cool, soft, elastic, the dumplings turned out - just class!
Now I want to try to make noodles for Easter too - of course Easter cake, I have not tried it yet.

What function do you use when making dumplings? 7 Dough?

Personally, I use 7 Dough, only after the end of the batch I take it out immediately (turn off the stove) and put it in polyethylene for 30 minutes.

If you can't wait, you can sculpt right away. The dough in dumplings really turns out because of such a long kneading (you can't knead so much by hand!) Very tender!

Well, it's been almost a month of using the Zelmer bread maker. She's just gorgeous. It costs its money. I advise everyone. Thanks to the people who participated in my search, thanks for the advice and of course thanks to this wonderful forum.

For all users of this stove, complete instructions in English
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[about the mass of baked bread?]

Good day! We recently bought Zelmer. While there is nothing to brag about, but soon there will be something (I hope).
Please tell me how to make a choice (in the program or something else) about the mass of baked bread? In the description I read that it is possible to make a bookmark for 500g, 750g and 1000g, and which button or how nothing is said.
Or you can just put the required amount of ingredients on what the required weight and just turn on the baking, but then a small amount may burn, and a large amount may not be baked (roughly speaking).

So I russified the panel for my parents, where it is "enlarged" in the original resolution (I printed it large for my parents and hung it on the wall.)
Look in the window at the top there are grams and a dash, it corresponds to the selected weight, the weight is a round button, when you press it, the dash jumps. Press until the dash is on the desired weight.
Remember, first select the program, and then the weight and crust, otherwise all your choices will be reset.

I forgot to clarify, the panel is from Zelmer 43Z010, perhaps other models have differences.

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Thank you very much for your response, only I have Zelmer 43Z011, there the panel is slightly different (the picture cannot be inserted), it is for 8 programs and as such a button weight is absent, and this is not in the manual. And (on the Internet), in the technical specifications, there is a choice of baked weight.
Well, okay, this is not important anymore, yesterday we tried the oven, thank God everything worked out, and with a small tab and a large one it bakes well equally, with a dark crust and with a medium one. (Again, sorry I can't insert pictures)
Then I think so, this model is either stripped down somehow, or universal performance. But all the same, I wonder, maybe someone knows?