Admin
Quote: Rezlina

Admin, why did you choose this particular combine, and not this, for example?
Surely, he was also considered as an option

Before that, I had a BOSCH 4756 for many years, but it included much more attachments than now. , and it cost about 6,000 rubles.

Compared to Kenwood, it has much stronger and more powerful kneading attachments, and the dough hook is made wide, which allows you to knead the bread dough better. See the photo above.

Bosch's dough hook is made of the same thickness throughout the hook size.

Is there a difference - kneading the dough with a wide spoon or a thick curved knitting needle?

And then, Kenwood has a grits mill that allows you to grind any grits, grains of varying degrees of grinding.
The photo above shows the finest grinding, the flour turned out to be very fine.

Bosch has no mill in its nozzles today. And when I was, I could not buy it - there were problems with the delivery.

And today we already had breakfast with barley pancakes made from homemade flour

This is actually why my choice fell on Kenwood.

Admin

And what kind of pancakes turned out from flour of our own grinding (post 171) can be seen here:

https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=10095.new#new
Zest
Quote: Aunt Besya

Where do you get the wheat for grinding?

Mainly in the markets. On those stalls where they sell all sorts of dried fruits, dried apricots, prunes, raisins, we also sell clean wheat, which is suitable for germination (for the laziest you can already buy it in a germinated form), and for kuti, and for your own flour. And before Christmas a lot of prepackaged goods were on sale in supermarkets. Now it is hardly left.
You ask around in the markets so that it is suitable for human consumption.
Chantal
litter for offtopic, and how is human wheat different from non-human? I saw it on the market, bought a kg-chik, and now I think maybe not?
Zest
Quote: Chantal

litter for offtopic, and how is human wheat different from non-human? I saw it on the market, bought a kg-chik, and now I think maybe not?

to be honest, I don’t really remember. Somewhere here on the forum I came across information that the wheat that is sold in the markets is not suitable for human consumption. Either it has been processed with something, or something else.Therefore, when buying, just in case, I clarify whether it is suitable for HUMAN BEINGS
Aunt Besya
I have a friend who works in a garden-vegetable shop. says that wheat-oats-rye. which is sold by them is treated with pesticides-herbicides against pests and weeds, and is not suitable for food, including germination. Market tellers sometimes sell the same and are unlikely to admit
Ukka
Girls, tell me please!
I really want Bosch MUM 44-47 series. In stores (both in the internet and live), we have them for about UAH 3000 (Bosch MUM 4756). I came to the conclusion that I need a Bosch MUM 4406 purely as a planetary mixer for a small volume (there is a meat grinder, a chopper too). 4406 is not in stores at all.
Prices in internet shops are
In the Ukrainian Neckerman UAH 1139 (USD 138)
I want to order from Germany, but I do not know how to order and how they have it with delivery.
Please, who ordered by Neckermann from Germany, tell me (you can in a personal).
Thank you in advance.
k.alena
And where do you get such prices in the internet? 4756 costs from 2305 UAH, 4406 did not find, and 4426 approx. 1110 UAH. I wouldn't order the equipment through Neckermann, but what about the guarantee? And how to be sure that it was not dropped in the mail (and the consequences may not appear immediately)
Ukka
k.alena, the real price in real stores of our city for Bosch MUM 4756 is about 3000 UAH.Do not misunderstand me, Bosch MUM 4756 is a backup option for me, well, I don't need such a complete set, I only need a good planetary mixer for a small volume.
Having rummaged through the Internet, I did not find a price lower than $ 130 for Bosch MUM 4426. I was not aware of the existence of this model. Can anyone give a review about it?
k.alena
But in real stores, so the prices there are significantly higher than in the internet.
I had the same requirements (a minimum of additional accessories and a small bowl volume), I bought a MUM 47A1. There are only 3 whisks and 3 graters. For me, the presence of a stainless steel bowl was fundamental. I use it for 1.5 months, I am very satisfied, the whipping from 1 protein is just wonderful. Kneading the dough into pasci - also wonderful.
IMHO all models of the MUM4 series ... differ only in power, bowl material and a set of bells and whistles.
By the way, many Kiev online stores deliver to the regions through Autolux, Night Express and similar courier services, they also issue a guarantee.
Umenok
I ordered myself a slow cooker
I paid on Friday 24, and received on Wednesday with delivery on 04/29/09. I am very satisfied. Delivery not only by "Night Express", contact the store, they will prompt.
The selection of goods is huge.
Take a look, you might be interested.
Ukka
k.alena, thanks for the answer!!!
You understood me perfectly, thank you !!! Yes, I need a harvester with a minimum of maximum accessories. I am very glad that you like 47A. I'll look at the prices for it in the internet ...
Yes, and I think so too
Quote: k.alena

IMHO all models of the MUM4 series ... differ only in power, bowl material and a set of bells and whistles.
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Umka, Thank you!!! I will pick it up by Autolux. But all the same, I will ask a friend from Kiev to get it from an online store, inspect it for external damage, etc., and then send it to Autolux. Autolux is only responsible for the integrity of the parcel, but is not responsible for what was put in the parcel (IMHO, if a defective product arrives, it will be difficult to find the last one). It all comes down to the honesty of the online store.
od65
bought myself kenwood km010. very happy. the truth is now they are sold complete with a juicer and a meat grinder. there are no empty ones in Moscow now.
Since I already have a bork juicer, I will be happy to add a juicer from the kenwood set. it fits the Chef & Major. I will give it cheaper naturally than in the store. write
grandmothers
Strawberries, thanks. GAMMA7 with a screw juicer is already coming to me. They sent it in a parcel, all together with the bank and delivery to Murmansk - 2263 rubles.
puel
grandmothers, please tell me how you contacted them to place an order at the above email address. mail:

I can't finish writing something. Can I call?
Hairpin
Quote: ukka

Please, who ordered by Neckermann from Germany, tell me (you can in PM).
Thank you in advance.

I ordered a Nikkerman Magic and a yogurt maker. Under the contract - two weeks for a return. If I didn't like something - I returned it minus 15% for delivery. If it didn’t work or it was broken, I would return it without deductions. I had no problems with returns. And I think two weeks is enough! But my Nikkerman is German (that is, from the site with the .de extension)
strawberry
Quote: grandmothers

Strawberries, thanks. GAMMA7 with a screw juicer is already coming to me. They sent it in a parcel, all together with the bank and delivery to Murmansk - 2263 rubles.

You are welcome. So far I only use a shredder. OK, And it works quietly. The next step is the juicer.
Misha
Food processor

https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=10278.0
Millstone mill - attachment for GAMMA 7 for whole grain flour.
I bought GAMMA-7-01 in the first complete set with seven nozzles, I tried only the mill so far, and it is still on the table - I can't take it apart.
grandmothers
puel, my first letter also remained unanswered. You must immediately write an application --- write the same address in the message, and write an application for the gamma 701 1 in the subject line, and then: please send me such a combine harvester 1 piece. My address is this, my phone is this and my full name is my name. You can call, I called this number and found out if money came to them.They sent the next day.
Kapeliya777
Happy owners of KENWOOD please tell me How do you like the juicer? is it suitable for hard or soft fruits, vegetables? Today I examined the harvesters in the Boshevsky store, so the consultant said that the juicer in the harvester is only suitable for soft fruits, is that so? Can you please tell me some other advantages between KENWOOD and BOSH. because I can not decide
Admin

To determine the benefits, you need to look at the Kenwood and Bosch website and see the proposed attachments for them.
And decide which model of these combines is preferable and necessary for you.

And if we talk about Kenwood, then the juicer works fine for him, it takes apples (is it a hard fruit?) Along with the seeds.
Kapeliya777
Is Kenwood's admin equipment the same, or is it different in every store?
Admin
Quote: Kapeliya777

Is Kenwood's admin equipment the same, or is it different in every store?

The complete set depends on the model and their interchangeability, this can be seen on the catalog site. Additional attachments can also be seen in the catalog.

Basic equipment - the harvester itself, 4 mixing blades with a whisk, a meat grinder, a juicer, a blender. This must be given to you, again depending on the model.

All other nozzles from the catalog are purchased at an additional cost and on order and if available in the store.
Ksun
Good for you. In Kiev, Kenwood comes with only a blender and whisks, scoops, everything else needs to be bought separately. No juicer for you, no meat grinder
Kapeliya777
Ksun juicers are now in the shop in the hotel "Mir"
Kapeliya777
Regarding the bundle, today I bought Kenwood, in Foxtrot, the sellers diligently proved to me that neither the blender nor the CD disc was included in the package, the disc was then found after lengthy disputes, which was apparently damaged, and the blender was offered to buy, I refused, it seems to be done to me 5% discount without adding a single ball to my card, and I bought another shredder, in short, "make a fool" out of the blue, will I call the KENWOOD office if I find out anything? I DO NOT LUCK SOMETHING WITH SUCH PURCHASES! And here the girls seemed to write that it was working very quietly, I don’t know, it seemed to me that it was not very quiet, but the truth is that I have never had anything to compare with a combine, this is my first, long-awaited, I probably dreamed about 2 years.
Kapeliya777
Thank you! "High-speed slicing grater" - 6 discs included, I have already tried potato pancakes (JUST SUPER) for a couple of minutes half a toe of ready-made puree, without excess moisture, very fluffy and without any lumps, Price: 532g .. there were meat grinders, a kitchen nozzle processor, low-speed chopper with drum graters, noodle attachments, and dough rolling.
Misha
Combine attachment (Gamma-7-01) for rolling dough on dumplings in action.

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Trendy
Misha , please tell me, does the dough on the dumplings come out smooth from the combine (like from under a rolling pin) or rough? I do not have such a combine yet, but from a similar attachment for a regular meat grinder, my dough turns out to be rough. And I did not like this method of rolling. Maybe you need some special dough recipe?
grandmothers
Strawberries, Misha, please write if they sent you a can opener in the GAMMA701 set. I didn't have it, but I should.
NiLarna
Quote: Kapeliya777

Happy owners of KENWOOD please tell me How do you like the juicer? is it suitable for hard or soft fruits, vegetables? Today I examined the harvesters in the Boshevsky store, so the consultant said that the juicer in the harvester is only suitable for soft fruits, is that so? Can you please tell me some other advantages between KENWOOD and BOSH. because I can not decide

I am the proud owner of a Kenwood combine.
I don't really like the juicer. The cake, in my opinion, is too wet. It would still be necessary to squeeze it out and, I think, another quarter would be added to the squeezed juice.After one glass of juice (if you need more) you will have to stop the combine, clean the juicer and only then continue.

Now about the pros. She rubs a variety of fruits. My favorite juice is carrot and apple. Moreover, the apples are tough, green and rubbed them together with the seeds. Well, carrots, respectively, cannot be attributed to soft vegetables either.
I used to occasionally buy such juice in large stores - where they prepare freshly squeezed. Now I'm playing around at home.

But if I just needed a juicer, I would buy a separate device specifically designed only for juicing. And among the juicers there are only a few really worthy models (as far as I remember). Somehow the idea came to my mind to buy such a device, then I studied the question well.
In Kenwood, this attachment was included. You can indulge, but no more.

strawberry
Quote: grandmothers

Strawberries, Misha, please write if they sent you a can opener in the GAMMA701 set. I didn't have it, but I should.
Did not send. The description of this nozzle says that you need to make an order for it, that is, it is not included in the kit.
Shurshun
And I have a can opener in Gamma 7-01, and the picking instructions say it must be present.
Misha
And in my configuration 01 there is such a device
Misha
Quote: Trendy

Misha , please tell me, does the dough on the dumplings come out smooth from the combine (like from under a rolling pin) or rough? I do not yet have such a combine, but from a similar attachment for a conventional meat grinder, my dough turns out to be rough. And I did not like this method of rolling. Maybe you need some special dough recipe?
The nozzle makes the process easier - definitely. Here she showed how she made dumplings https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=9919.105
The rolled layer turns out to be a little thick, I finish the cut out circles, but all this is faster in time and easier in terms of effort. Long live the automation of manual labor in making homemade dumplings !!!!!
Trendy
Misha , and yet you probably have some special recipe for dough for dumplings. Well, I can't get the dough from the meat grinder as smooth as from your combine.
grandmothers
MISHA, where did you order the combine, I will call them on Monday. I have a juicer included in the instructions, although I ordered it separately, and the can opener must be ordered separately.
Misha
Quote: grandmothers

MISHA, where did you order the combine, I will call them on Monday. I have a juicer included in the instructions, although I ordered it separately, and the can opener must be ordered separately.
I already wrote about it, did not order a combine, but bought it for the occasion. They are sold in the markets and to small households. I also met in shops where they sell domestic equipment in the configuration 04, but I hunted for 01, where there are 7 nozzles.
Quote: Trendy

Misha , and yet you probably have some special recipe for dough for dumplings. Well, I can't make the dough from the meat grinder as smooth as from your combine.
I make the dough from the instructions for the x / oven, I really like it, I knead it in it.
UmSabir
And I roll out the dough in the scale, cut it into rectangles and sculpt square ravioli dumplings, the taste is the same round, and there are no hassles with cutting out circles lately I have been lazy at all and I make a couple of khanum rolls in a multicooker
Aunt Besya
Quote: UmSabir

lately I've been lazy and I'm doing a couple of khanum rolls in a slow cooker
What is it, I hesitate to ask
I just finished sculpting dumplings, I also made dough in a bread maker, and rolled it out in Kenwood for 4, well, very sincerely and ROUGH Dough if it is slightly liquid
Kapeliya777
Girls are owners of KENWOOD !!!! Please tell me how quiet your harvester is? and what are you doing in the blender? I tried to make a pate, I did not like it, the milk cocktail is also not very good, it is not as fluffy as it used to be in stores, what then can you use a blender for? How does your combine work at low speeds? I seem to be in jerks. Please share your experience, maybe I'm doing something wrong ?!
Aunt Besya
Kapeliya777, in decibels, of course, I cannot measure, but in comparison with the Mulinex electric meat grinder and the Melissa combine, which were earlier, it is much quieter. I work with a meat grinder at 4, rolling for dough for min. I beat the whites first at low speed, then at maximum. There are no jerks anywhere. I haven't used a blender yet.
obgorka_gu
Quote: Kapeliya777

milk cocktail is also not very good, it is not as fluffy as it used to be in stores ..
Kapeliya777 What recipe did you use for the milkshake? I make 2 parts ice cream for 1 part milk (ice cream) - delicious! (the girls in the store were asked the ratio)
Kapeliya777
I found a fruit cocktail with ice cream in the book - milk-90g, fruit syrup-30g, juice or puree-30g, ice cream-30g, I replaced the syrup and puree with jam, nothing to taste
Kalmykova
Kapeliya777! I make a cocktail of strawberries, banana, milk, 2 quail eggs with shells, sometimes I add a little ice cream. It turns out just super - thick, frothy. And also a cocktail: cucumber, kiwi, parsley, 2 whole quail eggs, a little apple juice and a drop of fresh ginger. Tasty and healthy ! The harvester works at low speeds more or less (you can talk on the phone), and at maximum it is loud, almost like a Brown 1300 meat grinder. And Kenwood is not a weakling for me - 1500. I have never seen such proteins! Beats up so that the whites can be cut like marshmallows.
Kapeliya777
Aunt Basya, I (like) jerks are noticeable when I knead the dough. I first turn on the speed from min to 1 until all the ingredients are mixed, and then I switch to the speed from 1.5 to 2, the combine is on my kitchen table, so it walks on the 2nd table, there are no jerks in the work of the beaters, but the sound seems to be working in jerks, I called my husband to listen, he said that I was making it up, I dreamed of millet for a very long time, ate ate I collected money, so I walk around him and look into all the holes. And I also have a question, does it mix well? I made dough for muffins, butter and sugar, mixed very hard several times, stopped and mixed with a spatula, it seemed as if the whisk was missing! As for the noise, I have nothing to compare (this is my first harvester), but I have a Soviet-era electric meat grinder in which the undershifters rattle so it seems to make the same noise with the harvester. How do you like the nozzle for rolling the dough? is it possible to make puff pastry in it? and how wide is the layer?
Kapeliya777
Kalmykova has already copied thank you for interesting recipes, my son loves such experiments, he is a dancer, so he always wants something original, useful, so thanks from two I have a capacity of 1.400, so when we turn on the blender at full capacity, the neighbors probably for us very much rejoice that we enjoy cocktails at 24:00 or later, we fall in love And then my son teaches shaping lessons with crazy loads (his figure is okay, but mine ....!) after night gatherings with a cocktail
Kapeliya777
Quote: Kapeliya777

Kalmykova has already copied thank you for interesting recipes, my son loves such experiments, he is a dancer, so he always wants something original, useful, so thanks from two I have a capacity of 1.400, so when we turn on the blender at full capacity, the neighbors probably for us very much rejoice that we enjoy cocktails at 24:00 or later, we fall in love And then my son teaches shaping lessons with crazy loads (his figure is okay, but mine ....!) after night gatherings with a cocktail
And at what speed do you beat the whites?
Kalmykova
Kapeliya777 ! I start with 1, gradually moving to the maximum, wait for a dense foam, then add sugar or powder drop by drop. By the way, the blender is not as loud as the whisk.
Aunt Besya
Yes, the whites are super whipped. I also start with 1, and then to the maximum. You can safely turn the saucepan over your head. Tried shortbread dough, kneaded well. In rolling out, the dough layer turns out to be about 12 cm, that is, the width of the machine, I can measure it exactly if necessary. About puff, I think. that the machine does not care what to roll out, however, it is intended for pasta, but you can try it And the corollas actually may not reach the bottom or, conversely, cling to the bottom.For this, such a huge wrench is included in the kit, and the instructions explain in detail how to adjust the height of the rim. You look when the pan is empty, it should be literally 1mm to the bottom if not. then you need to adjust. I just want to buy a colander sieve to make sauces, wipe fruits and vegetables. I also tried a high-speed slicer grater and cut a lot of onions for a barbecue marinade. I liked it very, quickly, evenly and, by the way, quiet ... It seems to me that you have just a deception with noise - at midnight in the house it is relatively quiet compared to the day, so it seems that it makes noise. After all, at this time we make the TV and music quieter, there is already less noise from the street ... IMHO

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