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Trendy,
this harvester is metal on the outside, but inside ...
I decided to use it for kneading cake dough. And this dough is not cool at all. So, the upper part, which rises at the same time, walked with a shaker. The joints there are all made of plastic. How long will this plastic withstand ?! I did not risk it, and handed it back to the store.

And I also received a MUM 4701 combine three days ago. I am very very pleased. I do not know what they say about the assembly of the bad, but in my opinion it is very well made. The dough interferes just super, I haven't used a blender yet. Of the shortcomings, I see only one - too large holes in a coarse grater. Personally, I will not use the shatkovnitsa personally (I recently bought a Berner grater, it is better for this), but I can't even think of anything that can be cut in a combine using this attachment.
It stands on the table, when folded, it takes up very little space (blender, bowl, attachments are stored in a cabinet).
Therefore, if anyone is in thought, then I strongly advise

Oh, girls, I, too, was all worn out with the problem of choice: wow: I look at Kenwood's picture and I really WANT him, I see him in a dream, and even part with the astronomical amount that they want to be mentally ready for him, But I just can't decide on the completeness. By and large, I need a mixer with a planetary mixing function, since the one already available is old, manual and with a capacity of only 200W. But at the same time, I have a Mulinex electric meat grinder, I am satisfied with the meat grinder and use it very often, but the vegetable cutter is only in the fall or at gatherings, when you need to chop a lot of carrots, beets. There is an ancient Moulinex combine with a blender and a vegetable cutter, I don't even remember when I used it for vegetables, because Berner's graters are constantly in use, which I have almost everything. Family for today 2 people - the amount of food prepared is small, it is easier to cut 1 carrot-onion on a berner. There is a submersible mixer from Zepter, and in it a grinder for nuts, coffee, sugar ... So I think
1.can take in the simplest configuration, without a meat grinder, blender, vegetable cutter, but with rolling out for dough and spaghetti, a grinder for cereals, that is, what is not there?
2. or just a mixer, these are also there, but it has a power of 400 watts, and .... it's just a mixer. Suddenly tomorrow the meat grinder will break down - there will be no more possibilities to add a nozzle
3. Take everything that is there to the dacha, replacing it with a full-fledged combine (with a meat grinder, vegetable cutter, blender) - let it get dusty, but beautiful?
A-a-a! Help! I will accept any advice, they will help me form a decision, otherwise I rush about like ...

there is a wonderful phrase in the film "a man from boulevard des Capuchins" - if a woman wants something, she must be given it, otherwise she will take it herself
if you have the opportunity to take part of the equipment to the dacha (by the way, then you will not need to carry it back and forth), then it is better to take a complete set once and then not suffer - everything is there, it takes up little space, and even the family can be replenished

A-a-a! Help! I will accept any advice, they will help me form a decision, otherwise I rush about like ...

If I had such a choice, I would have stopped at the first! (IMHO) what model did you mean, I would also look at it (planetary mixing + dough rolling + grits mill) - a very tempting combination! I, too, am looking at the future with a bowl of mixers ...

I have a Bosch MUM 4655
I'm not overjoyed. Stands on the table are always in use despite the Berner graters. Ferment the cabbage in a 15 liter barrel - 5 minutes. get all the products, twist, depending on the products, the grater into the combine - a minute.
The auger meat grinder there is wonderful, I do everything with it, because pulling out a large separate one every time is too lazy, because a family of 4 people, a combine behind the eyes.
Blender is a separate song - you want hard, you want soft, measured risks on a glass, a huge glass is a delight. Previously, cocktails were not indulged in mousses. Now let's have fun.
I have a dishwasher, so washing the harvester is solved lightly, besides, rinsing it is a couple of trifles.
I bought the necessary disks separately. A julienne disc (like for a Korean carrot and a potato disc - so that it’s in blocks like on a Berner’s one. Only on a combine faster - by 4 people per 30 seconds and it’s ready. Time saves. If on two then I’m on a Berner’s whack and ready.
Happy with NG.
A bowl of their stainless steel to make the kit more expensive by 2-3 thousand is idiocy. IMHO. If I need an extra bowl, I will buy it at METRO for 30 rubles.
I do everything in plastic, boiled potatoes - in a bowl, butter, milk - please - mashed potatoes. Directly in the bowl on the table and put everything from there.
I have a file where I have collected all possible disks for the Bosch 4xxx series. Write in a personal - dik. if it's necessary. Here is a disc of julienne to look for, but for potatoes it is easier to find it on sale. Firms do not care about additional disks, but in vain.
So happy shopping.

Yeah! just beautiful mixer! (but the price)
And the link with the basic equipment took me somewhere in the wrong place with an error!
And now I looked at Kenwood and Bosch 4 series there is also an ice cream nozzle with a refrigerant and a spatula

marinal, Shurshun do you have production in germany or slovenia?
Shurshun, is the knife from the blendenr also in the PMM? Is it on a plastic base? I washed my iron, and it turned out to be aluminum, for a long time then I brought it into its proper form

Aunt Besya, my old Boshik has a capacity of 400;

For me, too, Bosch MUM 4655 has been plowing for 7 years. I'm very happy with it! I like Kenwood for the reviews and for the set of nozzles, but when I saw it in real life in the store, it turned out to be very cumbersome! This is probably the only drawback in my opinion for this model. So I continue to stay with my Bosch, especially since he still does not cause any complaints. I don’t know whose assembly it is, it’s not written on it, and the box has not been there for a long time. The knives (in general, no working knives) in the dishwasher are not mine in principle - the knives become blunt very quickly from hot water, therefore, the knife from the blender in the dishwasher did not wash, I did not try. The power of this bosh is enough for both a nabledner and a meat grinder.

[Aunt Besya]

Aunt Besya , so when the grandchildren go, then oh, how useful the harvester will be for you! will run to grandmother for pies!

Girls, who has an old Bosch NUM 6680/03?

marinal, Shurshun do you have production in germany or slovenia?
Shurshun, is the knife from the blendenr also in the PMM? Is it on a plastic base? I washed my iron, and it turned out to be aluminum, for a long time then I brought it into its proper form

Slovenia, a knife from a blender in a PPM - you have to guess)) I will shove it into the cutlery grid longer than rinse it ... The knives are also hand clockwise under water - and clockwise with a sponge so as not to cut the paw - that's all , business for 10-15 seconds.
The bowl itself is the size, larger - it will spread over the bowl if there are few ingredients. I would now, even if I chose it again - chose it - for 5 thousand kopecks and with a plastic bowl. By the way, the corollas there know their business - yesterday the dough for the rum woman interfered with the sauce - you don't have to stand next to it, you smoke - and the squirrels will beat you already. time has become a car. In general, it is beautiful, convenient, inexpensive. Just this: with the purchase of two additional attachments, you have to think about where to store them - for the three included in the kit, the stand is special, you can hang it on the wall, and for these I will probably order the same one in the service, I will buy it, the plastic is excellent, it is convenient and the knives do not touch each other friend. I say - I'm not overjoyed. but about planetary motion - at first I looked at the work of the combine as Alf at a washing machine

Well, it didn't even occur to me to shove into the net, so I threw it in it took 3 seconds, no more, and then wash it with pens with the risk of crumbling my fingers and as much as 15 seconds ...
Slovenia speak? and the plastic is great? hmmm .. strange, strange I looked in MT-online and media market ... wow ... poor quality in the sense? Choli counterfeits trade

PS: I don't see any sense in a stainless steel cup, especially for the money that they ask for

Hello everyone! Girls with harvesters, please tell me what the optimal power is needed for a harvester, for a home for a family, if you have limited funds, and you need a harvester desperately, since you have already ditched almost HP. Of course, I dreamed of KENVUDE, but in the conditions of the "crisis" dreams began to recede, I don't want to overpay for extra power, I'm interested in kneading dough, and a blender, but without the rest you can survive. Please help with the choice

Girls all who have BOSH of the MUM series tell me how you wobble cabbage on it? is that it needs to be cut into small pieces and put into a funnel? and what kind of cabbage is obtained after this? Will it turn out in small small stripes, almost like chewed? Or am I wrong? maybe I misunderstand something

[marinal]

marinal, well, yes, that's what I do. The output is very short "cabbage".

marinal, as a Bosch owner with 10 years of experience, I responsibly declare that I crumble cabbage on the Bernere - it turns out wonderfully and in general for me personally, a Bosch shredder is absolutely unnecessary

[strawberry]

strawberry Rotel juicers are very good. But "live" juice - there will be, for example, from Brown - but the money costs much less. I have been living for 10 years already. True, we use it infrequently, but the juice from grandmother's apples is quite "alive"

Harvester. Everything is simple and complicated at the same time. You need to decide on a set of functions that you need. Say, the same Bosch Mum 47th is an excellent machine for kneading dough, preparing minced meat (normal meat grinder, screw), rubbing / chopping a lot of products. He has one feature - you can substitute any dish for a vegetable cutter (aka a shredder) and a meat grinder. That is, you do not depend at all on the capacity of the combine flask. We need to grate a bowl of carrots - we put a bowl next to the shredder But the citrus juicer in it is fiction ... very inconvenient. And the blender is too small. We barely managed to mix for 4 milkshakes.

But, with all its power, the combine does not work quickly. Whisk the whites for a long time. But how high quality!

Girls all who have a BOSH of the MUM series tell me how you wobble cabbage on it? is that it needs to be cut into small pieces and put into a funnel? and what kind of cabbage is obtained after this? Will it turn out in small small stripes, almost like chewed? Or am I wrong? maybe I misunderstand something

I do it differently - on a combine and on a Berner. If I sauerkraut - of course on a mum, zip and I'm free again and a tank of cabbage. In this case, shred carrots on a julienne disc.
If you need a little - then a berner.
The main thing is that it's delicious anyway :)

marinal, as a Bosch owner with 10 years of experience, I responsibly declare that I crumble cabbage on the Bernere - it turns out wonderfully and in general for me personally, a Bosch shredder is absolutely unnecessary

So I think it's more convenient this way. And I really like that Berner turns out a long "noodle" it seems to me that it is so aesthetically pleasing and more beautiful.

For me, too, Bosch MUM 4655 has been plowing for 7 years. I'm very happy with it! ...

I'm also looking at him .. How does he knead the dough, does he have enough power? And the plastic for the drain of time is not tyutyu?

for so many years of plastic, even if only henna, though I can't vouch that today's plastic is of the same quality as 7-10 years ago, the dough is kneading very well! and if you really need sooo cool, then you can knead a little in the final

for so many years of plastic, even if only henna, though I can't vouch that today's plastic is of the same quality as 7-10 years ago, the dough is kneading very well! and if you really need sooo cool, then you can knead a little in the final

I agree with everything said. Even nothing to add. Well, except that the meat grinder there, compared to the free-standing ones, does not work so smartly, but the power is still enough. It just grinds more slowly. But I usually am not in a hurry.

Well, I also liked him because there is a blender and a meat grinder there.I don't have these things at home, I wanted to buy three things at once with one purchase: for dough, minced meat and all sorts of other things in a blender

Well, I also liked him because there is a blender and a meat grinder there. I don't have these things at home, I wanted to buy three things at once with one purchase: for dough, minced meat and all sorts of other things in a blender

I see no reason why all the wishes would not come true with this combine.

Hello everyone! Girls with harvesters, please tell me what the optimal power is needed for a harvester, for a home for a family, if you have limited funds, and you need a harvester desperately, since you have already ditched almost HP. Of course, I dreamed of KENVUDE, but in the conditions of the "crisis" dreams began to recede, I don't want to overpay for extra power, I'm interested in kneading dough, and a blender, but without the rest you can survive. Please help with the choice

I understand that you need to knead the dough, which means you need a powerful 850-1000 combine, saving in this case does not make sense, a low-power unit - so grind an omelette and chop cabbage, so get together with your thoughts and means and take Bosch or Kenwood

vorona Thank you very much for the answer and advice, you are the only one who saw my question in 2-3 weeks (probably could only be seen under a microscope) I will think

And Philips is also powerful - 1000. And not just one specific model, but many. But in Boch, the majority is less than 1000. In MUM, 47-600 (even less in the presenters) and only in 84-1400, and in 86-1600. And the Kenwoods are powerful.

And Philips is also powerful - 1000. And not just one specific model, but many. But in Boch, the majority is less than 1000. In MUM, 47-600 (even less in the presenters) and only in 84-1400, and in 86-1600.

This very MUM 47 copes well with the dough and whips the whites also great. IMHO more power is not necessary. But for a meat grinder (especially if the meat is NOT paired), then you need more, but the girls (who have a meat grinder in the nozzles) say that they can handle meat too. Before purchasing it and using a 300-watt mixer, I stirred the dough absolutely calmly, though not cool

I have a Bosch MUM 4655 combine. If you have 2-3 drops from the bottom of the blender, then it's not as scary as it seems. I was making fruit drink today and found a leak. I think: "Isn't this a marriage?" ... Most recently I bought a chocolate maker, it began to leak the next day - the company said that they forgot to put the pads on Kenwood ... I began to think if everything was in order with the blender ... harvester and transparent rim ...
What have I done. I took it apart and put it back together. Everything is in order, I have already worked on it twice - not a drop. Which undoubtedly pleases, which I wish you too.

This very MUM 47 copes well with the dough and whips the whites also great. IMHO more power is not necessary. But for a meat grinder (especially if the meat is NOT paired), then you need more, but the girls (who have a meat grinder in the nozzles) say that they can handle meat too. Before purchasing it and using a 300-watt mixer, I stirred the dough absolutely calmly, though not cool

Yes, I don't mind. They just talked about powerful combines. And Bosch is Bosch. I myself wanted MUM 47, and for my birthday they gave me a Phillips 7768. A complete set of nozzles, but not quite what I wanted. You have to adapt.

My husband recently gave me a Bosch - MUM86R1.
Super car! We only took a citrus juicer to the standard set, the rest seems to be unnecessary. Well, maybe we'll get a mill, a meat grinder and a noodle cutter later, if I don't change my mind

The dough kneads great, proteins - excellent, lemons in a blender - 5 sec.

He is, of course, expensive, but I hope that I have him for a long time

And Kenwood, which is better than Bosch?

Kapeliya777, than waiting two weeks was not easier to read the topic? these issues have been discussed here many times

[Elena c @]

Pancake, Elena c @, I was envious. I tear the hair on my head. I love Bosch and trust it immensely. If I had my will, I would change all the equipment in the house to Bosch, but what was bought earlier cannot be put away, and only Bosch is new (if the company produces the necessary device).

[natalka]

And Kenwood, which is better than Bosch?

To each his own. I twisted and twisted both, but for me Bosch is more ... massive, solid, or something ... In fact, personally, it all started with Kitchen Ayd (hmm ...USA, made in China), switched to Magimix (native France), Kenwood (for me such a neat speed control knob seemed flimsy), and Bosch struck right to the heart, but the price in the store killed my dream outright. Thanks to the one who came up with online stores, where we found this miracle at 6.5 thousand cheaper, the savings turned out to be not frail

natalka, you will laugh, I envy myself! Although they were looking for a gift, they picked it up, but still, until the last moment I did not think that it would turn out to be true. To be honest, it’s just a toy ... I did without it for 30 years ... but I wanted to ... and came true

Everything, I'm stumped. Can't choose between Kenwood and Bosch.
Just an ambush ... I reread the topic more than once already.
Here's the most important thing - I don't understand how critical this difference in power is - 600 for Bosch 4756 and 900 for Kenwood 266. I understand that hardly anyone has tested both of them))). Rather, cry.
I choose a food processor with a small bowl - I really will not knead the dough for more than 600 grams of flour. The presence of a meat grinder is mandatory (by the way, and about the power, my question is - if 600 watts will definitely be enough for the test, then how will it be for meat?), A juicer is desirable, a blender is required. Well, that's all. I definitely choose a steel bowl, because only recently I killed a bowl from a Philips mixer in the dishwasher, completely new (it was strongly led and it is now not suitable for use in the bed).

Owners of Bosch 4756, plz, answer me: can you put only a tenderloin in a meat grinder, or does it cope with the veins? And a universal juicer - nothing at all? What about the juice - does it have a lot of pulp or does it squeeze badly (the cake is wet)?

Now I read on IXBT that Bosch 4756 has a plastic meat grinder drive ... Girls who have such a combine, look, plz, is it so! Today I was twisting it in my hands, it seemed to me that everything there was metal ...

I have not 4756, but a 10-year-old long-liver, the drive is plastic and he wanted to sneeze on prejudices

PS: I think this was done so that in the event of a bone hit in the meat grinder, the plastic would break, and not blow the whole combine to the devil's grandmother

PS: I think this was done so that in the event of a bone hit in the meat grinder, the plastic would break, and not blow the whole combine to the devil's grandmother

So it is just for this and done. In some grinders, this part is called a "breakable pad".
But when they bought me a harvester as a gift, they stopped at Phillips precisely because the store criticized the meat grinder (like there are a lot of adapters from the engine itself and this causes frequent breakdowns) and a juicer in Boch, and at Kenwood no service in our locations.
Maybe so, but before that I really wanted Bosch. But in Phillips, both a meat grinder, a juicer, and a blender (a glass larger than Boshevsky) are just animals, for that it is not very convenient to mix the dough because of the small volume of the bowl and what I especially do not like (when removing the dough from the container) is the central part on which a whisk or knife is attached, it really interferes with the scapula (and I dreamed of a combine, first of all, for the dough). The shredder and graters also powerfully rub everything, but ordinary graters, small and medium, are very small (on the medium it turns out very thin, and when small it is generally not clear what to rub) - I would like them to be larger, but to a shredder, a disc for mashed potatoes and to the one that cuts fries, no complaints.

I have not 4756, but a 10-year-old long-liver, the drive is plastic and he wanted to sneeze on prejudices

PS: I think this was done so that in the event of a bone hit in the meat grinder, the plastic would break, and not blow the whole combine to the devil's grandmother

Yes, I've heard a lot of good words about old Bosch combines. But the current ones are made not in Germany, but in Slovenia ... This is what confuses.

About the tab - thanks, I get it. So this is just an ordinary fuse - not a superfluous thing.

natalka, I'm not even considering Phillips now. After the incident with the bowl of the new mixer, which I wrote about above.And I want a planetary mixer, but it is only in Bosch and Kenwood, well, in Kitchen Aid, but this is not my option)). In general, I have a lot of Philips equipment at home, as I understand it, still of the old reliable quality.

I'm not campaigning for Philips. He's certainly powerful and the quality suits me, but Bosch is Bosch (as one consultant in the store told me).
I myself would have taken the Bosch MUM 4756. I was staring at it and, in my opinion, Kenwood was not even close. It is both bulky, and the body is somehow flimsy, and lifting its body to replace the corollas confuses me (this was in my old Sanyo combine and very quickly something began to fall off and jump out there). Of these two, I would UNDEFINITELY stop at Boche.

Well, I think I’ve made up my mind.
I quote the key information about the meat grinder:

Another distinctive feature of Bosch combines is the Double Action transmission shaft. This state-of-the-art technology allows you to transfer to those attachments where low rotational speed, maximum force is required, reducing working speed and gaining power. As a result, a 600-watt combine is as powerful as a 1200-watt meat grinder.
Double Action is a double drive shaft. The top gear is directly connected to the motor and rotates quickly. Attachments are put on it, where fast rotation speed is required (knife, cutting discs, juicer). The lower gear is connected to the motor through a reduction gear, rotates more slowly, but provides a large torque. Attachments are put on it, which during operation meet a lot of resistance from the side of the products (a dough hook, a press for berries and boiled vegetables, a press for citrus). This design (there are no analogues in competitors) allows optimal use of attachments and avoiding motor overloads at low rotation speeds.

So let it be Bosch!

[MargoL]

MargoL, Kenwoods-chief and major have the same principle.
They don't even have a double, but a triple drive shaft.

[MargoL]

And I, MargoL, I agree with you and your choice! Right! BOSCH is BOSCH!

I'm not campaigning for Philips. He's certainly powerful and the quality suits me, but Bosch is Bosch (as one consultant in the store told me).
I myself would have taken the Bosch MUM 4756. I was staring at it and, in my opinion, Kenwood was not even close. It is both bulky, and the body is somehow flimsy, and lifting its body to replace the corollas confuses me (this was in my old Sanyo combine and very quickly something began to fall off and jump out there). Of these two, I would UNDEFINITELY stop at Boche.

It depends on for what purpose you are going to buy a combine and with what attachments in addition.

Bosch 4756 disappointed me, although it has been working for me for a long time.
I mainly use a meat grinder (no complaints) and nozzles for kneading and mixing.
You don't need a vegetable cutter, the citrus juicer is worth it, the ice cream maker is difficult to connect, the blender bowl is leaking, you can't use it.

That's the whole set.

To replace attachments or connect a meat grinder, you also need to raise the top of the combine, even if you need to pull out the bowl itself.

When kneading a tough dough for bread, the whole structure also shakes, in principle I think this is normal.

Now I'm thinking of buying Kenwood - the reviews about him are good and you can choose those nozzles that interest me.

[Admin]

Admin, and Boshik pleases me. And the metal cup is, in general, a separate song. Washable in the dishwasher and does not deform. And it does not absorb anything, you can use any minced meat, even fish, even cottage cheese ...

Here is a juicer - that's for sure, complete garbage. Horror, how inconvenient ... You don't really press an orange to it - it starts to swing.
And the blender is small. For the four of us, the milkshake mixes with difficulty ...

But for the dough mixers and the meat grinder - I forgive him everything. By the way, the vegetable cutter (grater) is very cleverly made. Any container can be substituted. Let's start filling the freezer in the summer and autumn -

Kenwood, alas ... very expensive. Moreover, it is even more interesting with additional attachments than Bosch's. It is very difficult to find the right ones in Russia ...I wanted Kenwood Chief, but after trying to find the configuration I needed, I bought Bosch ... Moreover, there was a significant difference in terms of money.

The bowl is metal, too - it pleases.

Kenwood - bites, I agree - so I collect money for him, a practical thing for all occasions.
And then, I was convinced that if they decided to buy, then the attachments should be bought at once in a set. Then it will justify itself.

[MargoL]

MargoL, the Kenwoods-chief and major have the same principle.
They don't even have a double, but a triple drive shaft.

I understand that they also have gearboxes. But we do not know with what gear ratio
I'm not saying Kenwood is bad. This is probably very good, but I still limit myself in money, so I am looking for the optimal price / utility.

Kenwood, besides being expensive, is also big for me. Yesterday I measured the cabinet in which I plan to put the combine (instead of the mixer). Well, Kenwood won't fit there. And Bosch will pass)). Therefore, having resolved the issue with the power of the meat grinder, I calmed down.

To each his own. I twisted and twisted both, but for me Bosch is more ... massive, solid, or something ... Actually, personally, it all started with Kitchen Ayd (hmm ... USA, Made in China), on Magimix (native France), Kenwood (for me such a neat speed control knob seemed flimsy), and Bosch struck right to the heart, only the price in the store killed my dream outright. Thanks to the one who came up with online stores, there we found this miracle at 6.5 thousand cheaper, the savings turned out to be not frail

I wonder why they didn't take Kitchen Aid?
I now also choose And I look in his direction.
My Bosch is very old, but powerful, the body is still metal.
But the blender bowl broke. Nowhere now you can not find any bowls or attachments ... I called the service, they said that you can order. But it will not be earlier than in 3 months and very expensive! So, I don't know what to do ... to buy or order a new one?

What didn't you like about Kitchen Aid? Why Bosch?