Svetlenki
milka80,

Irina, go watch Mia with a cold head. Storing accessories on a steam cleaner is cool. Do not forget that they also dry out there a little. After washing the floors and using the mop, steam remains inside.

And yet Karcher are Germans. In Europe, with its strict consumer protection, it sells and successfully ...

I do not persuade, just thoughts out loud
Belka13
And I changed my SC4 to SC5 And I'm very happy.
milka80
Svetlenki, Sveta, yes, Germans and Germans in Africa!
Belka13, Olya, what is the reason for the replacement? 😉




Girls, did I understand correctly that the wiper is not included? Then buy it separately?
Marpl
You can buy the necessary consumables to Karcher at any time - various rags, nozzles, brushes. I immediately took 5,800, and then I just bought what I needed. A German is a German.
Belka13
milka80, Irina, firstly, I bought a model without the possibility of connecting an iron, and I was eager to try the steam iron in action, secondly, I wanted more power for cleaning surfaces from old dirt, and thirdly (this was the last straw), Black Friday came , and I, having handed over the old model, got the SC5 with a 20% discount. Plus a bunch of accessories with the same discount. And a month later I bought an iron.
milka80
Belka13, understandably! And I have a friend, and for a couple of days you can take advantage of a 15% discount offer when buying in the salon (there is a salon nearby, I know where to run). A couple - a very tangible difference? I watched the review on YouTube, so there the seller advises all the same 4th model, not 5th. I will gladly listen to the experience of uninterested persons
Marpl
And sellers need to sell the previous models, so they offer them.
milka80
Quote: Marpl

And sellers need to sell the previous models, so they offer them.
Maybe. Here only by experience and time to check.


Belka13
milka80, like the discount on steam cleaners did not apply? Or is it only in our salons
The 5th model has more power. The pressure is higher. Runtime without refueling is also good. I liked the water tank more - both in volume and ease of filling with water. The steam hose is detachable, no need to break your head where to wind it.
Now there are new models of steam cleaners - I understand that the new one is only a floor nozzle. By the way, this attachment from previous models is terrible for me personally - a rag constantly flew off. If you drive on the floor at a distance, everything is fine, but it is worth bringing it closer to you - and that's it, unfastened Not the only one I had such problems, there are many reviews about such a shortcoming. The Germans changed it for a reason. I bought their other nozzle, and now I want to order from new steam cleaners (with Velcro).
milka80
Belka13, I'm going to the salon, my soul could not resist reading the reviews With something, I will return, thank you very much for the answers 💐
Belka13
Irina, good luck!
milka80
Girls, in general, we went.
What can I say, they were already ready to buy Model 5 with an iron, but it was not in the salon. We stood, thought, figured that, in principle, our apartment is clean, I would just keep it clean without chemicals and agreed to model 4. And then, like in Santa Barbara Belka13, Olya, thank you for the tip for the attachment. We start to make out, with my 15% discount it turns out 19 thousand with a penny. And then the assistant comes out, mumbles something and says that they already have a discount on this model and it costs 20 thousand with something and it cannot be summed up from my birthday. I was already upset, it turns out I could buy it cheaper, take it and ask, but will the nozzle be new? Well, then it turned out that they were selling old at a discount.I'm in a stupor: what is it, it turns out that the old complete set, I now buy more expensive than the new one can take? Well, she refused. We agreed that tomorrow they will clarify whether they will be able to bring the updated ones. Something like this.
By the way, the site has no information on discount models.

Yes, infa 15% discount

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Svetlenki
Quote: Belka13
By the way, this attachment from previous models is horrible for me personally - a rag constantly flew off. If you drive on the floor at a distance, everything is fine, but you should bring it closer to you - and that's it, unfastened

Yes, I also took a long time to adapt! There is such an annoying drawback. I'll have to look at the new floor nozzle. Only rags will have to buy new ones again

milka80, Irina, let it all come together.
Quote: milka80
We stood, thought, figured that, in principle, our apartment is clean, I would just keep it clean without chemicals and agreed to model 4.

So I also wanted to say that high power, it may not really be needed ... In any case, for furniture in the kitchen for sure. For floors, tiles - yes, maybe. But if you keep it clean, then you can do it
milka80
Belka13, Olya, can I get insolent and try again at the expense of the 5th model? Where is the stepless steam control applied? Already the entire Internet has climbed - zero information. Maybe I'm missing something and then I will regret not taking it? With the hose, I realized that refueling does not bother me at all, the fact that the steam supply is greater is understandable, but so far I have not found such places (except for the hood) where it might be relevant for me. The kitchen is clean, there is no fat, the apron is also clean. Tiles in the bathroom - yes, but as I understand, SC4 should cope. In short, my torment was postponed until Tuesday




Svetlenki, Thank you!
Marpl
It's good when you can adjust the power when washing tiles, tile seams, washing taps, windows, washing the stove, especially the area of ​​the handles. Better when it is regulated than not.
Belka13
I understood everything about discounts - we do not have Karcher centers, their products are sold in Karex salons, from intermediaries, therefore, promotions and discounts are at their discretion. You can still get a discount on Ozone if you have points or bonuses Thank you from Sberbank.
Svetlenkiit may be easier to choose rags for the new attachments. The main thing is that the fabric sticks to the Velcro.
True, I got a bunch of napkins for old nozzles at Eldorado with discounts
milka80, I will not dissuade you from buying the 4th model. She's very good, honestly. I would not have had such a successful exchange - I would have used it with pleasure in the future. But I'm a maximalist. I go for the Zaporozhets, and I return with a Mercedes
But, to be honest, some of the seams on the kitchen apron 4 did not clean, but 5 easily coped.
I worked a lot with the steam cleaner today. Laminate was finished at low power, tiles at high power. Then, attaching a brush with brass bristles, in 5 minutes I cleaned off the Tefal waffle iron, which I managed to thoroughly vypazdat, baking zucchini waffles. There was so much burnt fat that I didn’t believe I could handle it. But everything cleared up perfectly. I will say more - I wiped the surface with dry napkins longer than cleaned the fat. This is where the maximum power comes in handy.
I also really like the iron. I don't really like ironing. But here everything is much faster. I iron the bed linen, folded several times. The only inconvenience is that the glasses fog up during ironing.
milka80
Belka13, once again a low bow for Olya's detailed answer, but the function of supplying hot water with steam - where is it used?
And there is still a question about the iron: do you need a special board for it? Yesterday I saw the Karcher SI 4 EasyFix Premium Iron Kit, now the torments of hell have been added, how much this board is needed.

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Belka13
milka80, to your health! I will be glad if my advice will help you at least a little in choosing
I used the purification function with the addition of water until the New Year and, frankly, I had already forgotten about it. But in vain, because cleaning the waffle iron with water would be much easier. Well, nothing else, I'll start something else - then I'll apply it again
I turned on this feature when I was cleaning the bathroom sink from limescale that accumulated near the mixer. It was very difficult to crawl there, with water it turned out much more efficient. And I also cleaned the seams between the tiles. But they are slightly contaminated.
About the board. I really wanted to buy it. But, firstly, my own Gimi board is quite new and suits me very much, in addition, due to the mesh base, it allows steam to pass quite well, and secondly, negative reviews on the Internet stopped a little from buying (supposedly someone has plastic somewhere it broke down after six months of use), and thirdly, somehow the toad strangles to give 20 thousand rubles for it. Maybe in half a year I'll ripen. In general, of course, ironing produces a lot of steam, and the fan in the board helps to remove it. But for the first time, I am very pleased with this.
Marpl
A special board is not required. You can use any, but with holes I think it's better. My board base is all perforated. Just remember to put the board on air after ironing (a lot of steam and the pad on the board can absorb a lot of moisture). Once there was a lot of ironing, so after that a puddle even dripped from the board.
Belka13
Marina, here I am about the same. If the price was a little more affordable, you could buy it.
Accomplishment
Quote: Belka13
Does a steam cleaner clean glass ceramics poorly?
I have a built-in induction white electrolux. I don't use the scraper at all, at least not yet (a little over a year). After frying, a yellow trace remains around the perimeter of the pan. In most cases, Fairy with a regular dish sponge is enough. I am afraid that this trace will not wash off after reheating, but it is sooooo visible on white, so never! do not use the same hotplate without washing it!
On black glass ceramics, this is not so noticeable, therefore, a gradual formation of a turbid, difficult-to-wash ring around the "burner" occurs.
On ordinary glass ceramics (not induction), chemistry + steam cleaner - work perfectly well. No chemicals, only a steam cleaner - if the contamination is not old. Chemistry - special means for glass ceramics. I liked Electroluxskoe most of all, I used it on a black surface.
And in the instructions for glass ceramics it is written that if sweet gets on the stove, then you need to clean it up immediately, in my opinion, without even waiting for it to cool, because it burns in a swing. Otherwise, there is then really only scrubbing.
milka80
Exhausted!
All day I thought, thought ... As a result, my husband and I decided that the steam generator should be separate from the steam cleaner)))

Steam cleaner (steam generator)
Steam cleaner (steam generator)

It remains to pick up the iron

P.S. With storage priblud for the cleaner will have to come up with something. Can the box on wheels be tied to it separately?
Svetlenki
milka80, oyyyy, he is handsome in white all the same !!! I wanted white, but they don't sell with us ...

And the attachments - there are also compartments (slots) at the back ... Some will fit there ... And there is still a depression ...

Let the handsome man serve for a long time and please the hostess!
Marpl
There are bags for storing the steam generator. I keep everything in it, there are several compartments in it - for the generator itself, for the iron and the rest of the small things. With a zipper and comfortable carrying handles. I have black, but now they are light, like this

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Here are the different storage bags

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milka80
Svetlenki, Marpl, oh, thanks a lot girls! Marina, what a credit bag, you must definitely buy it! I'll definitely take it to the dacha in the spring, there will be cleaning work after winter

I dispersed everyone to schools, works, I will now conduct tests
Belka13
milka80, Irina, Congratulations!!! Let the hostess please and serve conscientiously! You will quickly get used to it. It is very easy to use. Only sometimes at the very beginning of work I forget to direct the nozzle into some kind of container to drain the water. And too lazy to read the instructions - but the tank should have already been cleaned.
The bag, of course, is cool, just like the width of my steam cleaner is 33 cm. I keep it on the floor, and I bought a box with a lid for the attachments. I store in it both the Karcher attachments and for the vacuum cleaner.
Svetta
Girls, carefully read the instructions for soy glass ceramic surface !!! I ditched my surface with two steam cleaners !!! As it turned out later, my instructions in Russian in white indicated "no!" But I read this after the surface was changed.
Accomplishment
svetta, Wow!
There was definitely no such thing in the instructions for glass-ceramic induction, because I always read the instructions without fail.
Svetta
Elena, yes, like that. Itself was shocked when I read it after the fact. I was very angry with myself, because I myself have the right attitude to technology and also always study the instructions at the beginning. But my glass-ceramics are just electro, without induction, and they were bought in 2007 and served for 10 years with my careful attitude. And here is such an ambush.
Jackdaw-Crow
And I'm afraid to wash the refrigerator with a steam cleaner, or in vain? I'm afraid that some consequences will not immediately come out
Svetta
Galina, is he really in such a state that only a steam cleaner is needed? I would never dare to wash the refrigerator.
Belka13
But I'm afraid to wash facades made of wood with a steam cleaner. Although occasionally, perhaps it is possible.
Marpl
I only wash the outside of the refrigerator. I have Liebherr Melall, as good as new after the steam generator.
Belka13
And I have white enamel at Liebcher. Poorly cleaned by means. My eyesight is poor, so I can't always see dirt right away. The steam cleaner helps a lot.
Jackdaw-Crow
Quote: Kara
I already wrote about the refrigerator in this thread (now it takes 10 minutes to wash it).
People wash, but I'm afraid!
Marpl
Olya, I wash wooden doors by steam, but of course not often. The inside of the fridge was not soapy, but I defrost the freezer with a hairdryer.
milka80
Girls, I'm with a report. First, thank you for being there! In reality, if I buy something from technology, then for reviews only here! It's good that I studied most of this topic and for the purchase already understood what the cleaner is capable of and what not.
There were no disappointments! Everything that I wanted to launder at the testing level was laundered. Almost 2/3 of the work used the first position of the steam, that is, at half strength - enough for the eyes. But then I reached the seams between the tiles (my kitchen table is lined with it) and then with a turbo nozzle I cleaned everything very quickly. I left half unpeeled to show my husband in the evening

The next step is the tiles in the bathroom and there is mold between the seams. Let's see how we handle it.
By the way, I haven't understood the glass attachment yet. It was faster for me to walk with a steam cleaner and then a cloth of the White Cat
By the way, the quick cleaning didn't work either, I don't know who does everything quickly, I have everything at my pace, only now without stinking chemicals))

Marpl
It is good to wash windows with a cloth when you get it out. But you won't be able to wash the balcony glazing with a rag, that's when this brush will come in handy for cleaning windows. I have 2 large balconies and this brush is very helpful.
Belka13
milka80, Hurrah! I also can't work quickly. So what, but I don't sneeze or itch from chemistry, which is very important with my tendency to allergies. And the apartment does not smell like anything nasty.
Svetlenki
Quote: milka80
There were no disappointments!

milka80, Irina, here I also love our forum. You clearly understand what you will take and what to expect. And in this the reviews of members of the forum and members of the forum are very helpful

Quote: milka80
The next step is the tiles in the bathroom and there is mold between the seams.

Here, I would first go through a product with whiteness ... So that she eats this mold ... Otherwise, blow it up with steam into the air and breathe it ... But these are my assumptions. Maybe someone who knows from the girls will tell

milka80, IrinaDo you have flowers at home? It is great for them to arrange a soft shower with a steam cleaner! Then they are so grateful
* Anyuta *
Quote: Svetlenki
It is great for them to arrange a soft shower with a steam cleaner! Then they are so grateful
I confirm !!! It is only advisable to do this all the same in the bathroom, because if the jet hits the ground even a little ... ... everything around will be in earthen spray
Marpl
Correctly wrote about mold - first treat with whiteness or vinegar.Fungal spores are very harmful, and let them die first and not scatter.
Svetta
And I stopped constantly cleaning the seams on the floor. I noticed. that here and there the steam began to knock out the grout and small holes appeared. I quit cleaning the floor, let the grout turn brown instead of beige. But sometimes I clean the tiles in the bathroom, but without fanaticism.
Belka13
And I'm cunning - my grout is brown
Instead of whiteness, you can use a tool for treating bathrooms from mold and mildew - it will not smell like that.
milka80
Svetlenki, Sveta, yes, there is, some of the flowers have already received their portion of the shower)))
With the bathroom, alas, miracles did not happen. I will first process limescale and mold, then go through all this from above, the state, alas, is prolonged, it may even have to knock out the seams and re-cover them. He cleans the taps with a bang. From the bathroom itself, you can also see it will have to be cleaned with a cleaning agent. My shower hose leaves black stripes on the bathtub, before it only wiped it off. The rest is all like TTT.
Girls, how to clean the toilet inside?

P.S. The senior day goes into the bath, and there he steam, he: Mom, what does it smell like?
Svetta
Olga, and I'm short-sighted - my kitchen floor is light green and the grout is beige, and the bathroom is pink and the grout is pink.
Marpl
I bought separate brushes for the toilet and bathroom.
Svetlenki
Quote: svetta
And I stopped constantly cleaning the seams on the floor. I noticed. that here and there the steam began to knock out the grout and small holes appeared.

I also have a suspicion that if you regularly use a steam cleaner for grouting, it will collapse / crumble / fall out, etc.
Kara
Quote: svetta
Galina, is he really in such a state that only a steam cleaner is needed? I would never dare to wash the refrigerator.
Mine is over a year old. And it's a thrill !! Moyu not because he is in "this state", but because it is so much faster. Previously, regardless of the state, she always washed with soda. And she spent at least an hour on the refrigerator along with the shelves. Now - all the insides in the PM, the refrigerator itself with a steam generator, for everything about all 10 minutes.

PS: drip refrigerator, for more than a year nothing happened to it. Of course, before washing, I unplug it. And I don’t steam it, I walked quickly, wiped it off with a dry cloth. What will happen to him?




Quote: Belka13
But I'm afraid to wash facades made of wood with a steam cleaner. Although occasionally, perhaps it is possible.
Olya, that's right, every 3-4 months I go through all the facades. Kitchen - natural wood veneer
Svetlenki
Quote: Kara
the refrigerator itself is a steam generator, for everything about all 10 minutes.

Kara, Ira, and what nozzle are you washing? With a rag? Steam at full capacity or half?

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