Stafa
Song* Somehow, I didn't notice such a problem that so much water was pouring in. I don't understand the question about from the side of the street, I open the windows and mine, I have all the windows that open.
Song
Quote: Stafa

I have all the windows opening.

But not all the doors open for me ... and besides, it is high ...
Stafa
Quote: Song *

It's easier for you ... and not all the doors open for me ... and besides, it's high ...
Once again, I am convinced you cannot save on the windows, we are not getting younger every year.
Song
Quote: Stafa

Once again, I am convinced that you cannot save on the windows
Eh, who would have said before that they will have to be washed ... And now there is a whole problem with washing.
No Karcher helps ...
Ennotik
Quote: Stafa

SC 2.500 C with iron? Better then.

No, he is without an iron, so the question is all hers! Help with choosing Karcher SC 1020, SC 2.500 or Arietta ???
Manna
I am for Karcher - you can easily buy additional attachments to replace them. 2.500 differs from 1.020 in that it has the ability to top up 0.8 liters of water during operation. Personally, I didn't need that. But in general, this is convenient for general cleaning. It's just ... is it worth +2.5 thousand rubles? I would not overpay for this ... and I would not
kubanochka
Quote: manna

I am for Karcher - you can easily buy additional attachments to replace them. 2.500 differs from 1.020 in that it has the ability to top up 0.8 liters of water during operation. Personally, I didn't need that. But in general, this is convenient for general cleaning. It's just ... is it worth +2.5 thousand rubles? I would not overpay for this ... and I would not

I agree to all 1000%! I have 1.020, the problem of adding water for me does not exist. I just unscrew the cap and refill. The water heats up a second time very quickly, since the steam generator has not cooled down yet. The saved 2,5 thousand will be useful for all sorts of additional brush heads
WANTed56
I have another question ripe here ..... if there are a lot of carpets in the house, does Karcher 1020 handle it normally? I understand correctly that there is a vacuum cleaner and a steam process? Or is it like a large steam cleaner, first you need to remove the main dirt (for example, with a vacuum cleaner or a broom), and then work with it? and besides, he can perform the functions of a small jug ... all sorts of shelves, greasy doors, batteries, right? I know that all these topics have been procrastinating a hundred times already, but I already have such a mess in my head that I would like to hear a specific answer ... just
Manna
Quote: WANTed56

I have another question ripe here ..... if there are a lot of carpets in the house, does Karcher 1020 handle it normally? I understand correctly that there is a vacuum cleaner and a steam process?
No, not right. It is only like a steam generator. A steam vacuum cleaner is a completely different story ... which is 4-5 times more expensive. But this device is very good, if there is an opportunity to buy it. I don’t know about many carpets - I don’t have one.

Quote: WANTed56

Or is it like a large steam cleaner, first you need to remove the main dirt (for example, with a vacuum cleaner or a broom), and then work with it? and besides, he can perform the functions of a small jug ... all sorts of shelves, greasy doors, batteries, right?
Exactly
WANTed56
Thank God that at first I still thought of asking !!! all the same, I would like a steam cleaner, but I read reviews about Karcher 1802, I was upset, it costs a lot, and people write that it starts to break down in a couple of years :( and that it is not worth the money that they ask for ... I was completely confused and now Th decided, or maybe buy a vacuum cleaner with wet cleaning and a small steam cleaner to top it off, so that bacteria and ticks can be killed ...completely wilted with a small steam cleaner, I 100% decided in which case, can you advise something on the "water" vacuum cleaner? or tell me where to look?
Manna
Quote: WANTed56

can you advise something on the "water" vacuum cleaner? or tell me where to look?
I don't know about water vacuum cleaners ... everything I've heard about them is just "phi". Very heavy and requires constant washing (after each vacuuming). Maybe, of course, there is now something of a higher quality that I do not know about
If I had to make that choice ... for carpets ... nightmare... then I would take Karcher 1.020 and a good vacuum cleaner with a bag. First, collect the top dust with a vacuum cleaner, then scrape out the deep dust with a steam generator, and then collect it again with a vacuum cleaner. That's right ... in theory
* Anyuta *
Quote: manna

I don't know about water vacuum cleaners ... everything I've heard about them is just "phi". Very heavy and requires constant washing (after each vacuuming). Maybe, of course, there is now something of a higher quality that I do not know about
If I had to make that choice ... for carpets ... nightmare... then I would take Karcher 1.020 and a good vacuum cleaner with a bag. First, collect the top dust with a vacuum cleaner, then scrape out the deep dust with a steam generator, and then collect it again with a vacuum cleaner. That's right ... in theory

.. I raked in with my Thomas .. just a couple of pages ago I already wrote about it! Now I'm frantically looking for the cheapest, but powerful suction vacuum cleaner.
yulyax
And I like Thomas. Very high power, works efficiently, and only the inner container is washed there. I've already gotten used to it, and it takes literally a minute.
And they bought a steam cleaner recently (I like a vacuum cleaner like this 🔗) - I'm playing with him now. I'm very happy so far. You can really do without chemistry now. I walked with a little steam with a rag, and everything shines like after washing with Mr. Proper.
Carpets and upholstered furniture have not yet tried to steam clean I want to combine Thomas and steam. Go through the wash with Thomas, then with a steam cleaner and again with Thomas.
* Anyuta *
Quote: yulyax

And I like Thomas. Very high power,
Who has a lot of power? can you talk about "consumed"?
the suction power of the tomos is 280 watts ...
The simplest vacuum cleaner has 350 watts (including "mugs") ... and a normal vacuum cleaner has from 420 to 510 watts!
yulyax
In comparison with the dust that we had before it, we had an electric suite, with a higher power, but the quality of cleaning was worse and there was a smell of dust, although we also bought an expensive, newest model at that time (3 years ago), with a bunch of additional filters (small children were and this requirement was in the 1st place) and in the end a month later they bought it with the Thomas aquafilter. And now I agree, there are a bunch of more powerful ones, and it might be better. But I am quite satisfied with Thomas, for 3 years of operation he has never failed, and there were no complaints about him)
yulyax
Quote: * Annie *

I also have no complaints, but the power is no longer enough
I just walked through the dust, indeed, a lot of models appeared with a capacity of 2, or even 3 times more. But Thomas suits me so far, more because of the aquafilter than because of the power.
Ennotik
Quote: manna

I am for Karcher - you can easily buy additional attachments to replace them. 2.500 differs from 1.020 in that it has the ability to top up 0.8 liters of water during operation. Personally, I didn't need that. But in general, this is convenient for general cleaning. It's just ... is it worth +2.5 thousand rubles? I would not overpay for this ... and I would not

Quote: kubanochka

I agree to all 1000%! I have 1.020, the problem of adding water for me does not exist. I just unscrew the cap and refill. The water heats up a second time very quickly, since the steam generator has not cooled down yet. The saved 2,5 thousand will be useful for all sorts of additional brush heads

Thank you very much for your answers !!! 💐💐💐 then I stop at Karcher 1.020 and buy a nozzle for windows and textiles for it. 😊😊😊 I'm going to buy it next week, as soon as I test it, I will definitely unsubscribe !!!! Thanks again for the tips🌹🌹🌹😉
Song
Quote: Ennotik

Karcher 1.020 and I will buy a nozzle for windows and textiles for it.
When I bought my 1.020, I also bought nozzles, almost all of which were, and so, in my opinion, nozzles for windows and textiles are the most unfortunate of all ...
Here is a turbo brush and a rotary nozzle - yes!
Ennotik
Quote: Song *

When I bought my 1.020, I also bought nozzles, almost all of which were, and so, in my opinion, nozzles for windows and textiles are the most unfortunate of all ...
Here is a turbo brush and a rotary nozzle - yes!

What do you mean .... I'm now at a loss ... Textiles are, in principle, not so important to me, I just don’t iron the tulle, but immediately hang it up, so I thought to steam it by weight. Well, I would very much like to wash the windows with this unit !!!! And you wash the windows with what nozzle? Maybe there is some kind of universal?
Song
Quote: Ennotik

What do you mean .... I'm now at a loss ... Textiles are, in principle, not so important to me, I just don’t iron the tulle, but immediately hang it up, so I thought to steam it by weight.
For textiles, the nozzle is strong moisturizes the fabric is wet because the steam is wet ...
Quote: Ennotik

Well, I would very much like to wash the windows with this unit !!!! And you wash the windows with what nozzle? Maybe there is some kind of universal?
It's hard to say ... I've already written below why I don't like them to wash the windows ... In the apartment they do to clean and clean - yes, they do. But the windows ... no.
I’m already thinking about whether to buy a manual windshield wiper Kärcher model WV 50 plus specially for windows ...
Once I saw a neighbor washing her windows with it ... so dexterously and quickly!
Manna
Quote: Song *

When I bought my 1.020, I also bought nozzles, almost all of which were, and so, in my opinion, nozzles for windows and textiles are the most unfortunate of all ...
Here is a turbo brush and a rotary nozzle - yes!
Taste and color, as they say I am quite happy with the glass nozzle. For textiles, I did not buy, I also think it is meaningless Turbo and rotary, too, did not buy ... somehow I don't need anything

Quote: Ennotik

What do you mean .... I'm now at a loss ... Textiles are, in principle, not so important to me, I just don’t iron the tulle, but immediately hang it up, so I thought to steam it by weight.
This can be done with the usual attachment from the kit, putting a cover on it so that the bristles do not damage the fabric. Steam on low steam to avoid dampening the fabric.
Stafa
I am also very pleased with the glass nozzle, and since I have several sashes, where the nozzle does not pass in width and I have to wash it without it - I immediately feel the need for it, it is inconvenient to wash the windows without it, although it is possible. They washed all their lives with soap and wiped them with newspapers. It is possible to get chemistry - but I feel reluctant to poison myself, I felt the difference between steam and chemistry - more chemistry.
kubanochka
If I had 2-3 windows, maybe I would have done without a window attachment. But! I have 24 of them. size 1.4x1.8, 6pcs. 1.4x3, not counting the small ones in the basement. So I'm nowhere without a nozzle. The Kärcher manual wiper model WV 50 plus does not save me. To me 1.020 with a nozzle for cleaning windows more productive
Song
There is also a matter not only of the nozzle, but also of the windows ... If in all my windows only the middle one opens out of the three doors ... here, for sure, no karcher with a nozzle is not an assistant to me ... And such windows are very common with us, now they build like that ... Just imagine how you have to contrive to wash such a window from the outside. And if the 12th floor ...
Only in the kitchen I have a double-leaf window and both hinged doors. Here it is easy for me to wash.
So the approach to the acquisition and ease of use of the nozzle is very individual ... For those who do not have all window sashes open, this is definitely not an option ...
Oca
Quote: Song *

For those who do not have all window sashes open, this is definitely not an option ...
And yet the way out! Thanks to the long tube, I wash the edges of the window, reaching them with a round brush. The mop did not reach. The middle (narrow) sash of three opens. There is a wide battery under the window, so a steam pipe on the chair - so that the hose will reach and into battle!
PySy Is there no "dust" from the window on the sofa? On my windowsill, after 2-3 days, a layer of sand inflates, although the fifth floor ...
Song
Quote: Oca

And yet the way out!
And I found another way out ... once I attracted my husband to wash the windows outside ... since then he forbade me to "lean out" ... now we invite from the company ... and I only from the inside of my window ...
Quote: Oca

PySy Is there no "dust" from the window on the sofa? On my windowsill, after 2-3 days, a layer of sand inflates, although the fifth floor ...
And we don't open the window with the sofa ... And, by the way, there is much less dust from the street on the 12th floor ... we lived earlier on the 7th and then the difference is noticeable.
pawllena
I seek advice from experienced steam cleaner owners. I decided to buy myself an assistant (tsu?). I read this Temko and, taking into account the responses, began to search. I looked at 2 models:
Clatronic DR 3280, 1500 W, 1.5 l, 4 bar
Gorenje SC1800R, 1800 W, 0.8 L, 5 bar
To decide on the choice, I want to know whether the difference in pressure matters and what else needs to be compared, because the price of Gorenje is almost 2 times more expensive than Clatronic.
* Anyuta *
Of course it has ... pressure - this is, how would you say, the pressure of the "ejected" steam from the steam generator itself ... - without going into the details of physics .. for a Parsi, pressure is one of the main indicators, but as a rule, 4 bars is quite enough for routine cleaning ...
Manna
pawllena, the difference in price is due to the fact that it is also the price for the brand (gorenje). The volume of the tank for these models is almost two times different. Do you need a 1.5L tank? For general cleaning, yes. Too much for regular ones. Gorenje, in my opinion, is more mobile than the clathronic. As far as I know, Gorenie (its analogue) is only available for giraffes, clathronic for many.
pawllena
Anyuta, thanks for the quick review. This is exactly what I wanted to know, because I could not really understand from the characteristics whether there is a difference in the completing attachments. I assume that you need attachments for cleaning glass, floors, small parts and hard-to-reach places. Most likely, those who have not yet used the rest are even difficult to imagine. Maybe somewhere else on the farm they use a steam cleaner and it is desirable that something else be included in the kolmpekt?
pawllena
Thank you manna Then, if you will allow me, another question - do you personally have enough nozzles included in the kit? Or would you like something else?
Manna
pawllena, I use round small nozzles, glass nozzle, floor nozzle, medium size nozzle with cover. I have no other attachments, and I do not feel the need for them either.
pawllena
Thank you manna! Decision is made. I order Clatronic DR 3280. Take it to your ranks.
Lady di
hello, I'm thinking about Karcher 1.030 with an iron .. and do you need a board with holes for it?
ordinary will not work at all?
can this iron be ironed by weight, as if with a textile attachment?
maybe someone else also has a Karcher board? what kind of board is this with blowing and blowing?
is 3.2 bar enough? or is it very little?
maybe you should look at the models with a humidity regulator? but there is also 3.2 bars and in the model where there is 4 bars there is no humidity regulator ...
which is more important than the number of bars or humidity regulator?
Vkost
Take to the company! Yesterday night on page 66 I broke down and ordered myself a Clathronic. At first I was going to buy a teapot, but they were not available. Therefore, in the morning I found a Clathronic with a vacuum cleaner on another site. And now my stove and apron are already washed. I am an asthmatic and besides, lately I have been on my hands from any detergents with terrible eczema. I think this device is what I need. Thank you all for the detailed descriptions. I went to read on.
IraIgnatova
Hello dear mistresses and owners of steam cleaners! On page 106, I described my situation with the defective Kromax Q-408, bought on February 2 and handed over on February 5 for examination. After more than a month of waiting (and should have been 21 days), they called me yesterday and said that it was really a marriage. They looked at my offer to return the money with a smile and began to talk about the need to write an application and wait 10 days for it to be considered. There was nothing to do and I decided to take another one from them. The Monster SC20-S MB-3644 teapot was the most suitable of all the suggestions on the site. I tested it today, I was very pleased.With approximately the same performance as Kromax, this is heaven and earth. She perfectly steamed the carpet, the backs of the sofa, wiped the apron of the kitchen. And this is all at one filling station, the steam flow is powerful, you don't have to wait long for steam generation. I am very satisfied, so I recommend this steam cleaner for purchase. Store player. ru - no. My husband and I spent 3.5 hours there yesterday in line for an exchange. It was a great pity for the man: he bought his daughter a tablet with a marriage on March 8, sat in line just like us for 3.5 hours (he was in front of us), in the end he was told that the serial number was erased on the tablet and in general it was not bought from them. The man almost cried from injustice. And the thing is obviously expensive. Also, in a mockery, they turned on the 1958 film with Yakovlev "The Idiot" on the big TV in the waiting room. And so everyone in line sat like idiots and stupidly watched the classics of Soviet cinema! So they have a lot of marriage, we were 51 in the queue. And it's not a fact that everyone changes what is defective. I shared my impressions so that no one gets caught in this store. Sorry to write a lot, but yesterday I was simply outraged by this attitude towards customers.
* Olivka *
Hello everybody!
Girls, help me with the choice, please, or dissuade me altogether. I fired up the idea of ​​buying a steam cleaner, but knowing my problem of perfectionism, I just can't solve it. I want a large apparatus, not a kettle, with a minimum pressure of 4 bar, the maximum price limit is up to 300 euros, but, of course, the cheaper the better. I saw a couple of models:

Kärcher SC 5.800
Domena SC 4 (the 6th is very expensive, but I still don't understand what is the difference, the steam output is only 120 against 100g / min)

The second one is captivated by the high steam temperature of 200 degrees, and the iron for it costs 56 euros, not expensive, but, on the other hand, I already have a steam station with a simple 5 bar iron and I am somehow not quite happy with it, probably a heavy iron with a cork handle just an attempt to change the attitude towards steam stations, will this solve something?
Karcher seems to be a better known company, but how much better is he, aren't we paying half the price for the name?

Or maybe 1020 Karcher is enough for me, there is no strong pollution in the house, often I wash everything with strong chemistry. I plan to wash the windows and blow out hard-to-reach places such as under the rim of the toilet bowl, remove grease on the tiles in the kitchen and between tables and the stove, wash batteries and baseboards (they are painted in the kitchen).
Domain, the girls wrote, they even washed the laminate, that would be just super for me, if possible, we have about 100 squares and there is laminate everywhere in the rooms. Does the temperature of the steam decide something or just the pressure?

I liked another Polti Vaporetto Forever, there are 4.5 bars, and the price is 100 euros, a little more expensive than Karcher 1020, but the temperature is 120 degrees (even Karcher's is 145) and I liked Mie Bello, but we don't have Mia in Germany at all, in Italy I I didn't find them, they seem to trade only with the CIS.
Can you advise what others?
Lady di, the board is required with holes, and an active (functional) one is generally my dream. I worked in the atelier for some time, there was such a board, however, industrial, because it is wide as a table, the product comes out after ironing like a factory. Here on the forum, in my opinion, there is a Temka about steam ironing stations, there probably how these board functions are discussed, if not, then I can tell you more. All functions are important for me: vacuum, inflation, fan, heating of the board itself plus, ideally, a sleeve for narrow parts. But there are boards like an airplane.
Lady di
but I'm thinking about Karcher 0130 and 5,800 and 2,600
is it worth overpaying 2 thousand UAH for 4 bar. instead of 3.2 (choice between 0130 and 5.800)
or 1 thousand UAH for a humidity regulator (between 0130 and 2,600)
which is more important?

general calculations showed that it is more profitable to buy with an iron, since an iron separately costs 1.5 thousand UAH
and I will buy an active Karcher board already when the baby girl appears, not earlier ... since I don't need to iron a lot yet ... for two ...
* Olivka *
Lady di, IMHO for an iron 3.2 bar is not enough. Considering the cost of Karcher's equipment, I personally would buy a separate steam cleaner and a separate steam station from another manufacturer with a pressure of at least 4.5 bar.I have a DeLonghi 2100, which itself is a rather expensive station with a pressure of 5 bar, 150g / min., Impact 180g / min. and heats up in 2 minutes, and costs a little more than Karcher sells his bare irons to steam cleaners. I don’t know, however, what choice is in Russia, you can buy steam stations from normal manufacturers from 70 euros.
cheery89
Hello, I ask for help in choosing, I have read a lot of reviews about steam cleaners, and now I am at a loss. The choice is between the Bissell 16q1-j steam shot and the Karcher 1020. I understand that there are two different devices in scale, but still. I can’t decide in any way, it’s like I’ll stop at the Bissel and then I’ll start reading the reviews again and think about Karcher. I read somewhere that in the bissel the final temperature of the steam outlet is about 60-70 degrees, which of course is not enough, and on the official website I did not find anything about the pressure of 4.5 bar. I want to use the steam cleaner in the kitchen (cleaning the gas stove, baseboards, hood, refrigerator, slow cooker, stove, microwave), in the bathroom (all plumbing, shower cabins !!!), disinfection of children's toys, at home a cat and a dog, I want to protect them from them at least a little bit of a kid, I read somewhere that you can wash the painted walls, well, the interior of the car! So my main fear is that I will take a bissel and it is rather weak, of course I understand that the steam cleaner will not remove everything as in advertising, but I want a powerful one. And there are many positive reviews about Karcher. I'm confused. Please help me make a choice.
p.s. I have a positive attitude to companies, I recently became the owner of a Bissel washing vacuum cleaner (I like the quality of work and assembly), Karcher Toy has proven itself well.
Playful
Quote: cheery89

Hello, I ask for help in choosing, I have read a lot of reviews about steam cleaners, and now I am at a loss. The choice is between the Bissell 16q1-j steam shot and the Karcher 1020. Understanding that there are two different devices in scale, but still. I can’t decide in any way, it’s like I’ll stop at the bissel and then I’ll start reading the reviews again and think about the Karcher. I read somewhere that in the bissel the final temperature of the steam outlet is about 60-70 degrees, which of course is not enough, and on the official website I did not find anything about the pressure of 4.5 bar. I want to use the steam cleaner in the kitchen (cleaning the gas stove, baseboards, hood, refrigerator, multicooker, stove, microwave), in the bathroom (all plumbing, shower cabins !!!), disinfecting children's toys, at home a cat and a dog, I want to protect them from them at least a little honor the kid, read somewhere that you can wash the painted walls, well, the interior of the car! So my main fear is that I will take a bissel and it is rather weak, of course I understand that the steam cleaner will not remove everything as in advertising, but I want a powerful one. And there are many positive reviews about Karcher. I'm confused. Please help me make a choice.
p.s. I have a positive attitude to companies, I recently became the owner of a Bissel washing vacuum cleaner (I like the quality of work and assembly), Karcher Toy has proven itself well.
Well, I won't say anything bad about Karcher, I don't know the bissel. I can only advise you to look at the warranty service of that and other manufacturer, it's still a technique. Karcher impressed me, I will say without false modesty.
Vei
Unfortunately, I don’t know what Bissel is ... But Karcher is super !!! I only do all the cleaning with it, I don't even use mops anymore. But I had to buy all sorts of priblud nozzles, but they are not cheap (((

Although for the floor and the kitchen, I myself sewed cloths-attachments for brushes from cheap microfiber cloths that are sold in every supermarket.
Stafa
I also use a microfiber cloth for the floor, I feel sorry for the white one from Karcher, it’s too white.
Vei
Quote: Stafa

I also use a microfiber cloth for the floor, I feel sorry for the white one from Karcher, it’s too white.
Yes, they wash well, but I don't have enough for cleaning alone, and then I don't want to wash it with my hands, and loading the machine with a couple of rags is ineffective, it's another matter when there are a lot of them and you can wash them all together once a month!
Tatoshenka
Good day everyone! Girls can anyone have BOMANN DR 921 CB, how do you like it? And yet, if anyone knows what the difference is between him and the Clatronic DR 3280, they look like two twin brothers.
Manna
There is no difference between bomann and clathronic - they are one and the same
* Anyuta *
Quote: Tatoshenka

Thank you! I also found it, this is the same thing, as they say, the same eggs, only in profile, only under different names, and I was going to choose between them

Natasha, if you choose Boman for yourself, tell me later for how much you are going to take ... it is very necessary. since I want to take the clantornik in Ukraine ... so you need to navigate the price in Russia ..
Tatoshenka
Anya, we have an online store in Maykop where Clatronic DR 3280 costs 3026 rubles, and Bomann DR 921 CB- 3206 rubles, so now I choose between them
And Temka I read and read everything, now my husband will come to dinner, and I'm again near the computer.
Not true
Girls, hello! help me choose a PG Karcher, which model is better to take 2500 or 5800. Is there a significant difference between them?
Chamomile
My sister and I bought a Boman for two about a month ago. For 2890 rubles. Bought at a live store near the house. I don't know if I can write or not. In the Photo Park. If you order from the site with self-pickup for another 30 rubles. it would be cheaper. But we didn't. Let's go and buy it. He reached me yesterday. Or rather, I didn't pick it up myself. I got sick and understood that I would not use it yet. So he stood with his sister. She just has a shower cubicle. She really enjoyed using it. And I liked it. I was already savvy. How and where to use it. I washed the tiles with them everywhere. In the bathtub, she sprinkled a fizzy drink on the tiles and on the bath itself, which Tatyana Zhirafka recommended. So everything was well washed. Certainly not as good as new. But no comparison. I used to rub everything with Sif, but there was no such effect. I washed all the tiles in the toilet. And I washed all the doors. Such beauty. There was almost no strength left on the stove. I cleaned the stove a little with the remaining steam and that's it. She did not pour more water. One of these days I will continue washing and wash the stove. Conclusion. A steam generator is a thing. Everything that previously had to be rubbed with effort and with chemistry is now washed off almost effortlessly. Moreover, it is disinfected.

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