Miranda
And what kind of Swede?
Masinen
Miranda, Ankarsrum

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ANGELINA BLACKmore
Quote: Miranda
Sorry if you offended.
Not offended in any way. Discussion is discussion.
Miranda
Masinen, ahh, I know that.
I thought, suddenly someone else.

Good yes. But highly specialized. Rather, he has different attachments, but how he did not look with them. Only the dough peeked.

ksuha
Girls who have such a kitchen. harvester 🔗 how is it at work?

Kneading machines
Miranda
ksuha, I saw the other day in Mediamarkt.
The whisk is not silicone, but plastic. What surprised me. I decided that they must be removed before use, that the protection of transportation, although this is strange. I didn't understand why they were.

I cannot say anything on the merits of the question. Just this.
ksuha
Miranda, Thank you. Reviews on the internet are very positive, I ask my husband for an anniversary as a gift (although not soon). Dear ones, we can't afford it, so I'm looking closely at 15 thousand.
gawala
Quote: Masinen
dimensions are not for an apartment.
This is a production unit)
And the price ...
EUR 1.599.99
Miranda
ksuha, So cute.

In MM there were many cars unknown to me.
Tefal, Moulinex, Gastorag. Somehow a lot of them appeared.

I paid attention to this whisk. It probably makes some sense to have the lower rods with such things. Not just like that.
ksuha
Miranda, in our stores in Volgograd there are sooooo expensive cars, but I'm afraid to order via the Internet. Maybe for New Year's promotions they will be delivered to stores.
Miranda
ksuha, if there are chain stores, such as Mvideo, etc., then it is not scary to order there, because they have their own large delivery of various equipment, everything is neat.
ksuha
Miranda, I always worry, suddenly there will be a marriage, this is such a problem with a return.
Sedne
Oksana, in Eldorado, for example, if ordered on the Internet, they pick it up by courier, that is, you do not need to go within 14 days.
Igrig
Quote: ksuha

Girls who have such a kitchen. harvester 🔗 how is it at work?
Kneading machines
I'm not a girl and I don't have just such a combine, but there is an absolute clone: ​​Moulinex. Also red. Truth is used only for kneading dough and beating. Nice apparatus.
In my configuration there are still a bunch of attachments (blender, meat grinder, coffee grinder, vegetable cutter ...). But we do not use all this. For this, there must be separate devices.
MSU
Found the info ...
mawo4ka
Can you please tell me about such a machine - does anyone have a Royalty Line PKM-1400.5 1400W dough mixer? needed for kneading dough and whipping proteins Kneading machines
eye
today in m-video mixer BORK E800 made an impression.
Kneading machines
4 nozzles, 1000 W, price, really .. 49 990
watched the video: the upper part of the body is movable during mixing
but otherwise I liked how it works, and it doesn't sound disgusting
maybe someone has experience with this machine?
and yet, nowhere is there information about the maximum weight of the dough when kneading, bowl 4.7
Miranda
Have you seen this video?


There really is a tough test drive. The dough at the maximum is too much.

The price is such that you can choose different ones + - at that price.
But someone here is, like, happy.
eye
Miranda, thank you, yes, you saw, the test "for departure": the speed is excessive for such a test.
about the price: we hoped to find options in online stores, but alas ...
Quote: Miranda
The price is such that you can choose different ones + - at that price.
I agree, Bork won the store with its solidity
Miranda
eyeI'm a Kenwood scholar
For me, there is nothing more solid than him.

But, in fact, there are different good cars, depending on what tasks and wallet.
eye
tasks for the family: dough, minced meat to threads, any cream, including meringue.

wallet ... as always, you want not to overpay
Rituslya
eye, I'm again with my advertisement. I have a low-power BOSHik 4 series, which is just quite flimsy.
But you look older than Boshiki. Read it. I am very happy with my pretzel, although I have an ugly one at first.
Miranda
eye, so many can.

I also like Boshiki Mum.



Added Saturday 24 Dec 2016 09:32 PM

And on Bork here is the same Temka, I remembered what I saw

Planetary mixer BORK E800
Anchic
Tatyana, and Bosch Mum XL was not considered?
Bast1nda
From the budget. I really like the Boshik, it has served without problems for so many years.
I think that the plastic Keshi are also at the level, but the price is normal. The case is plastic, so what, it will definitely be enough for 15 years.
But now there are many good stocks for metal caches.


Added Saturday 24 Dec 2016 09:42 PM

Tatyana, look at the universal computer. There the prices are good and delivery is 29 euros, for a combine harvester it's a trifle.
But the Bork brand, IMHO, is pretty dashingly overrated! Girls, no offense, but this is really so, yes, in the m-video they are pushing him, but he is not worth the money. For fifty dollars, then I cash.
Masinen
video to be seen))



men are fools !! this speed was turned on !! would kill them there on the spot
eye
Rituslya, thanks, I'll see
Miranda, Thanks for the link! Boshik again)))
Anchic, thank you boshik)))
Bast1nda, thanks again boshik)))
I will think now in this direction: -
the ambush is that not everyone writes what the weight of the dough is designed for. my dying hp took 1.3 kg, it is not enough for us)))



Added Saturday 24 Dec 2016 10:26 PM

Quote: Masinen
men are fools !! this speed was turned on !! would kill them there on the spot
Maria, here I am about flying test
Zima
Bosch Mum5, the maximum weight of flour for kneading yeast dough is 750 grams (according to the instructions), but it creaks even at 500 grams.
In my opinion, as a combine it is very good. As a kneader, if only occasionally. And the price today (almost 20,000) is simply unlimited.
Miranda
eye, 1.3 dough, the bowl should be larger
Not 4-5, but 6-7
Marpl
I also chose a combine harvester for a long time to knead the dough and settled on the Clathronic KM 3647, 1000 W. with a metal bowl for 5 liters, 3 nozzles, 6 speeds, pulse mode. Found for 6458 rubles. They all have a 1-year warranty, and in the warranty I was told that they do not do repairs, only under an act. Why then purchase an expensive harvester for household purposes. I am driving it for the 2nd day, I really like it, and I like the price even better. Here he is

Kneading machines
and this is a sticker

Kneading machines
I looked at the whole thing, even the box, but apart from this sticker there is nowhere mention of China, although everyone is doing it there now.
For the house itself.
eye
Miranda, I thought that this is not the volume of the bowl, but the power
how many wonderful discoveries we have ... (c)
Miranda
eye, power too, of course
where without her

The hook is kneading for the size of the bowl, and there is room for kneading, so manufacturers indicate maximums.

So even in 3 years. a bowl will fit a lot, a couple of kilos of dough for sure, but if you mix and knead in it, the hook should have space to turn.

Kenwoods indicate 0.68kg flour under their 4.6l bowls, 0.91kg under 6.7l bowl. regardless of power (with such bowls there are both junior and senior models with different powers).

I don’t know about other firms.

But the written thing is the same. You have to ask the girls who has a bowl of 4-5 liters, how much they are doing.
eye
Bast1nda, I went, I liked Kenwood KVL 6320S ... we don't have it, taking into account the delivery "from there" - roughly 580 euros
as an option Chef Titanium KVL8300S, it is more expensive than 60 tons ...
ch-t how I like to blacken, so it is immorally expensive


Added Sunday 25 Dec 2016 00:48

Miranda, yes, these models have a good "kilolithic capacity" and design.
but the price (

Oleg likes blondes
Blondes like Oleg
But he walks gloomily past
He doesn't like the price

Miranda
Quote: ok
as an option Chef Titanium KVL8300S, it is more expensive than 60 tons ...

Why? Where does 60 thousand come from?
Do you look in German without tax deduction?

There is a Russian version of the site, where the tax has already been deducted - 42 670 + delivery is 65 euros. And if a card with the Central Bank rate, for example, Corn, then it's 46800 somewhere.
The last thing says 🔗

We have them 60-70 thousand.
Titaniums - new series, backlit and all that.

I saw them in Mvideo. Here at the office. infa website in Russian 🔗

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If the model is simpler, then with a small bowl here
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And with a large bowl here
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at the big one they write that the blender is turned on (though of the old model) and the AT340 grater-shredder
here, for example, is a review of this grater 🔗

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Boshiks have very nice new ones with built-in scales.

Cheaper, but it is cheaper there only because of the power
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More expensive
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Here's a Temka, but there are no real users, because they don't sell it yet, it's also a novelty.

New Bosch MUM9 kitchen machine ... (OptiMUM)
The Germans have something to choose, cheaper than ours, which means you can buy a better machine for the intended amount.

Good luck with your choice
Anchic
Tatyana, for Bosch MumXL with a 5.4 l bowl for yeast dough, flour maximum 1.5 kg is indicated in the instructions, for pasta dough 750 g.
Rituslya
A year ago, we presented a colleague with a large series, but a small set, for the Boshik holiday. I don't remember the episode, I have to look. A year has passed, and she is so pleased that she does not want to hear about any Kenwood. He kneads bread dough really well. The sight is fascinating, yes. I love to watch, since there is none of mine.
I want it too. And even more I want to try a new series for which Miranda the link above gives.
Painting
I have a Bosch MUM86 (large) in a small configuration: two whisks (for cream and for liquid dough), a hook and a glass blender glass, a 5L bowl. Very happy. It is very good in power, it works quietly, even at high revs, does not rattle and does not "jump". I love him dearly and would not trade him for anything.
monsher
I have Morphy Richards, power 600, bowl 4.3. Kneads kefir dough on 600 kefir dumplings and 1000-1200 flour, beats well (not minimal doses). I am very pleased. I read reviews, noisy - yes, especially when whipping at top speed, but you can survive.
eye
I am very grateful to everyone who responded !!!
left to understand and determine

Miranda, but tell me, please, as a Kenwood expert: what about the sound of the work?
I watched a video with a "major", there from 70 to 80 decibels were shown, and the sound is high whistling.
Or does it depend on the model?
Miranda
eye, so I'm a Kenwood scholar in the sense that I keep one representative at home
How things are with others in terms of practice is not very good.

My coffee is noisy at maximum, but this is also due to the knocking of beans on the glass in the nozzle. Squirrels are quieter at maximum, but I try until 9-10 pm only.

But I can start the usual mixes at 1-3 speeds at 12 at night.
eye
Quote: Miranda
I mean, I keep one representative at home
Well! and I presented a whole brood)))
1-3 speed for bread is just right?
Miranda
eye, depending on which one, rye can interfere with less than 1.
3 for bread is generally rare. Here are the profiteroles - 3 ok
eye
Miranda, romantic you are still a person: profiteroles at 12 at night)))
thanks for the help!
Miranda
eye, in fact, even at 1 am
It's my pleasure!
Vei
Quote: ok
romantic you are still a person: profiteroles at 12 at night)))
Until recently, I did all my baked goods to order at night, it was important for me not to make noise. I have a Kenwood KKM 020, it whistles of course at high speed, but I am more than 4-5 speed and usually do not start. For eggs and proteins 3-5 the speed is optimal, the faster it will be worse. And for yeast dough in general, 1 speed is needed. Right now, Kitchen still showed up at work, but he is louder than Kenwood, although his tone is different, lower. And my quietest professional Italian for 20 liters, you can't hear it at all during work, but it costs around 200 thousand! ((
Miranda
Quote: Vei
Now Kitchen still appeared at work.

And how do you compare Kitchen and Kenwood?
Firecracker
Quote: Miranda

And how do you compare Kitchen and Kenwood?
I'll wait, I'll listen, I'm also interested, I have not yet finally decided on the choice
Olga_Ma
Quote: ok

today in m-video mixer BORK E800 made an impression.
4 nozzles, 1000 W, price, really .. 49 990
watched the video: the upper part of the body is movable during mixing
but otherwise I liked how it works, and it doesn't sound disgusting
maybe someone has experience with this machine?
and yet, nowhere is there information about the maximum weight of the dough when kneading, bowl 4.7

I have. Soon 2 years will be !!! How my husband bought it for me is a whole story! I read for a long time, I really wanted Kitchen, but at the end of 2014 I ordered myself from Moscow on the Kenwood Major website, but then the ruble collapsed and the car began to cost more, and at the old price they refused to sell me. Of course, I was upset, cursed, but ... so they didn't send me. My husband looked at my tests, after the new year took my hand and said that we were buying Bork and closed the issue. This is how I became the happy owner of Bork. But this is all lyrics, now in essence. I knead everything in it: dough on dumplings, bread, pies, pasta (this must be said separately, it mixes flour and eggs perfectly, I don't add anything else to the noodle dough) without problems. Whites perfectly. And it has 12 whipping speeds. And I immediately took the ice cream bowl.
Vei
Quote: Miranda
And how do you compare Kitchen and Kenwood?
until I can objectively compare them. Kenwood has been plowing for 3 years from day to day, it was a conscious choice, that is, I decided for myself even then in what camp I was))

And Kitchen, he is different, I still like him only because it is more convenient to add liquid and especially hot viscous ingredients (such as hot sugar syrup) during the kneading process. I have used it so far only for the preparation of protein glaze (icing), because I have 2 bowls for it and I can quickly change them without washing. But the same glaze Kenwood mixes better at the bottom and walls. I really have a regular spatula without a silicone pad. But at Kenwood, I do it with the usual K-shkoy. If the whisk can be adjusted in the same Kesh, then the spatula is immediately calibrated. And another very unpleasant moment for me in Kitchen - their system of fastening the main nozzles. Maybe I'm not used to it yet, but it's hard to get used to this, it's very stressful to change them, so I stand straight and think ten times before removing the same paddle ((In Kenwood, everything just changes, in my 20L it is also quite human, but here it is necessary to dodge straight and then from the fifth time it will only work out.
Olga_Ma
eye, Tatyana, I knead the dough for 600 grams of flour, I didn't pour it any more (there is no need, there are only 2 of us in the family)

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