Pimander
Stefanya, you're welcome!
Ninelle
Quote: Pimander

Yes, not particularly louder than other combines and electric meat grinders. The loudest noise is when whisking at high speed. On 1-3 it does not make much noise.
I also considered this car, but the girl who has it says that it is noisy, and I have a small apartment, so I chose Bosch. I have a Maximum, quiet, powerful, big, I love it, I just adore it. But the price tag, yes, about 40 ...
Pimander
Ninelle, Gastrorag is considered a professional technique, so it makes a professional noise, and boshes are homemade, amateur. And the noise is the same
Ninelle
Quote: Pimander

Ninelle, Gastrorag is considered a professional technique, so it makes a professional noise, and boshes are homemade, amateur. And the noise is the same

Well, I cook for the family, for the guests. I like
Zhannptica
I have a gastro-bottle with a volume of 6.3 liters, a meat grinder (dream) is inserted into my head and a glass blender with huge knives on top. It makes noise no louder than a hand mixer. it is more powerful than 4.5 liters. I'm soooooooo happy. And stuffs the sausage at once. All the bells and whistles included.
Pimander
Zhannptica, I have not seen this. Can you find out the model?
Gata
I'll wait too, I'll listen
Pimander
Zhannptica, This one? 🔗

Kneading machines
Ingrid
And I have Ankarsrum for six months! Also happy as an elephant
Crochet
Ingrid, our regiment has arrived !!!

I loved my Ankarsrum with all my heart !!!

Soon it's been 3 years since we have been together !!!

Decent kneader !!!
Strangliya
Girls, hello!
Please give feedback on the ARIETE 1597 GOURMET dough mixer.
Kneading machines
If it has already been discussed somewhere, I apologize.
I would be glad to receive any feedback. There is an opportunity to buy it for 9000. The price is very tempting.
Thank you!
Ingrid
Crochet, YES, now together we will praise our favorite dough mixers in every way
ANGELINA BLACKmore
Hello.
HP Brand will probably go to the trash heap (the bucket is out of order, it is impossible to buy another - the manufacturer does not have them available) Therefore, I faced the choice of a kneader (in HP I only kneaded leavening dough and dumplings)
I read the forum - the head, like many, is crooked ...
I will not come to a solution in any way. Here I am looking at Bohmann and Clathronic ...
This is how Kenwood likes it, but what for the money has little power. Help me in any way you can - advise me too.
Ahtuba
I, too, recently suffered from a similar choice, as a result I bought a gastrorag 723, a 6-liter bowl, very happy !!! True, when whisking whites at the highest speed, it makes a lot of noise (whistling). It is very unpleasant for my ears, but I found a way out, I just insert cotton swabs into my ears and I can't hear the whistle, it makes a noise like ordinary household appliances, I would say, pacifying))) These sounds do not annoy my family members, and they even say that they do not hear especially noise.
The dough kneads perfectly, the dough for the biscuit is great, the whites are beaten just super! The cream also does great! And everything is very fast! I am very pleased with the purchase !!! I use it for 2 months.
Jiri
Quote: ANGELINA BLACKmore
This is how Kenwood likes it, but what for the money has little power. Help me in any way you can - advise me too.
Kenwood does not have a power less than 800 watts, but this power is completely and completely for the test and for everything else. Kenwood definitely
ulaaa
Quote: ANGELINA BLACKmore
Clathronic ....
I have Clatronic 3632
Great car
Power 1200 watts, bowl 5.6 liters for 2.5 kg of dough
Happy like a hedgehog
zvezda
Of course Kenwood !!!!
Rada-dms
I'll sit in your Temka, listen! A dough mixer is needed for giving, so that it can be left without problems - that is, not very expensive, but powerful enough! Somehow kitchen. Kenwood's car is reluctant to carry every time.
ANGELINA BLACKmore
Girls-and-and ...how can I break into beautiful and smart?
I like Clathronic, there is a bigger bowl. This is to make cakes harp at once))
I don't care how the machine will beat the eggs and make the cream.
I have a mixer for this. I'm only concerned with sourdough and dumplings. Hands hurt, it's difficult to knead.
What other arguments can you throw in to decide? )))
At first, my husband said - buy so that he was with all the bells and whistles, like a combine ... But I read the entire forum and I liked the indication of such a nuance - if you think about the bad, then suddenly it will burn out, so at least not all of the equipment will fail at once. Therefore, I plan to buy a separate kneader, a separate meat grinder. But there is simply a harvester and there is just a juicer, and there is also a strarodrevny meat grinder)))))


Posted Saturday 12 Nov 2016 4:53 PM

Quote: ulaaa

I have Clatronic 3632
Great car
Power 1200 watts, bowl 5.6 liters for 2.5 kg of dough
Happy like a hedgehog
Here is relevant for today.
🔗


Posted on Saturday 12 November 2016 4:56 PM

And Bomann for today
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Added Saturday 12 Nov 2016 5:09 PM

I understand that many will say - these are not machines ... we need to take serious equipment ... BUT ... among the population of the site there are people who live financially modestly And they would also like to mechanize the work in the kitchen.
Well, what to do, since solid models are too expensive.
As for the expression - paid little, worked little .... - does not always work. My old Sanio food processor has been living for more than 20 years and plows ... plows ... Or a washing machine that runs on wood - Vyatka is an automatic machine ... She is 23 years old. plowing dear ... plowing ... And friends had some fancy units ... after a short while in the trash.
So here I want to find information from the category PRICE-QUALITY.
lou
And I bought a Bomann KM 398 for giving and for kneading a large amount of dough. He has a 6 liter bowl. The whisk and k-nozzle did not even try. Compared to Kenwood, heaven and earth in aesthetics, weight and volume. But it kneads a large amount of dough perfectly. But for kneading a small volume, for 500g. flour has a claim - I'm not very much. But for this purpose, I do not use it. And so, it suits me very much. And its light weight is on my hand, I can drag it to the kitchen without any problems (now I have it in my "winter apartments"). I bake once a week for 1.2-1.5 kg. flour. Has been working constantly since June. I look at it and think how long it will last. But a hard worker, growls, but kneads.
ANGELINA BLACKmore And yes, financial and other conditions are different for everyone.
ANGELINA BLACKmore
Natasha, this model looks pretty too. It was a little upsetting that his work was not impressive for 500 g ... And I often knead for 500 g. Well, so that more bread was fresh ... A large volume is required once or twice a year ...
lou
ANGELINA BLACKmoreNatasha, I don't have much time, so I bake a lot, store it in the freezer. For me, practically no different from fresh.
Perhaps it is advisable for you to take with a smaller bowl. Or maybe this is a feature of my device.
Rada-dms
ANGELINA BLACKmore, here I have an old machine plowing and plowing, a German mixer, like a beast, he is 28 years old!
To give me a dacha, I need not to be expensive and knead well, but at 6 liters it's a giant. I bake often and little by little.
ANGELINA BLACKmore
Quote: lou
it is advisable to take with a smaller bowl
Well, Clathronic has a smaller bowl. I read reviews wherever I find about this car.


Added Saturday 12 Nov 2016 05:38 PM

Rada-dms, I myself bake not very large loaves. Well, at one time I would knead a kilogram and a half. I would like to buy a "naked" car, without bells and whistles, so that you can knead dense types of dough well - that's all!
Rituslya
I had Boman. Probably a good and solid car, but not for me. We didn't make friends.
Then I bought myself a red-haired plastic Ken, in my opinion, a model 353. A bowl of 4.6 liters.
If it hadn't carried me further, I would have stopped there. He suited everyone. Very good!
And now in general I only use Boshik Mumchik 4 series with a power of 500 watts. My clever boy!
Rada-dms
Rituslya, Ritus, and the power is enough to knead 1 kg, and how is the dumplings dough?
Rituslya
No, no, Olenka, if we consider Boshikov Mumchikov, then I would look above 4 episodes. For example, 5. There is more power, and the bowl is also more solid guys. Now all sorts of sales are coming out.
Mine is quite small. I haven't tried it for 1 kg. But, in fairness, it will probably be hard for him. But he understands 500 grams of yeast. And kneads dumplings. Later, however, I help him a little with my hands, but still great!
Jiri
girls, there is now no such clathronic that would have worked for 28 years, and neither is a boman. What was previously good with the quality of technology will no longer be there. Natasha writes that there is an opportunity to buy a simple Kenwood, it is better to take it anyway than clathronics and others like them
Miranda
Do you remember about such a car?

Quote: Tyetyort
Girls, my 8 liter Konvito has been threshing and threshing with faith and truth for 3 years!

I then googled, I liked everything according to the description and price.
If it weren't for Kenwood, I would have risked him.

And now I was digging on Ali for a sale, there are many different cars at good prices. But it's alarming to order this + wait. But the price is such that you can risk it.
ANGELINA BLACKmore
Quote: Miranda
But the price is such that you can risk it.
Is this risk worth the money?
Miranda
in different ways, I saw it for 120-130 USD. e.
Well, that is, there is a lot of money by itself, but not a lot for a kneader.

For example, a couple of up to $ 200. e. with free shipping



or here


this one has an interesting hook

Kneading machines
ANGELINA BLACKmore
I will not dare to send money to no one knows where .... This is not a silicone mat for 400 rubles to buy ... So it will be a pity if something does not grow together with the purchase ..... I just buy on Ali on little things.
Miranda
ANGELINA BLACKmore, Ali does not know where.
The money will be released to the seller only after your confirmation of receipt.

But this is already a matter of personal perception.
I bought expensive things on Ali.

Another question is whether the cars are good there.
ANGELINA BLACKmore
Quote: Miranda
Another question is whether the cars are good there.
That is why the preferred option is when you can come to see, touch.
Now I have re-furred a lot of sites ... No, do not pull me Kenwood ... the lowest price is 24990.
Bomann got sick, due to the fact that a small portion of dough did not please the owner Natasha. I lean towards Clatronic 3632

Miranda
Specifically, the latter was interested because of the hook.
Found on taobao, called bear SJJ-A06V1

Maybe it's a discount now, but 600 yuan.
Through intermediaries with their commission, 103 USD came out. That is, approximately 6,700 rubles. Or maybe there are cheaper intermediaries, I don't know.

I read it - 6 speeds, 4L bowl. stainless steel, splash cover, three nozzles, 600W

I would not be afraid of the very fact of the purchase, but that I would not like the car in practice. But I liked the hook very much. We need to google the Chinese reviews.

And the company is not external, but Chinese inside, which is a plus for me, because they do well for themselves. When I studied there at the university, I could repeatedly make sure that the domestic market is very good. good quality.

***
Quote: ANGELINA BLACKmore
I lean towards Clatronic 3632

Reviews on it are normal.
Also China, you can only feel it, read the reviews.

In any case, I wish you a pleasant purchase, and whatever you choose, let him please with his work!
ANGELINA BLACKmore
Miranda, Thank you. I will think about it. I'll go to Technosila - feel)))))
Alena17
I choose a powerful household kneader for a tight dough. Stopped at Bomann KM 398 CB.
1200W, not expensive, and it seems like the reviews are not bad. Who used and mixed the really tight dough? How reliable?
Vei
Girls, I want to clarify the situation with the names a little, otherwise the topic is called "Kneading machines", but in fact we are discussing other units))
I plunged very deeply into the topic of dough mixers, although professional, but that's not the point. You are all looking for kneaders, especially for tight dough, but offer each other and end up buying not kneaders, but planetary mixers, which were originally designed for whipping and mixing creams and dough, but biscuit, shortcake, even yeast (but structurally for yeast other devices intended), but still one way or another enough easy dough.

In bakeries, for yeast dough, they use the so-called spiral DOUGH KNEADS, and it is precisely this design plan that is already called dough mixers. The same Arkarsrum is already a kneader, and Kenwood / Kitchen / Boman / Klatronic and others like them are PLANETARY MIXERS.
And for a tight dough, in general, the third type of structures goes.
And sometimes professional models with a narrow specialization are cheaper than household station wagons, they are more reliable and better at coping with the task, but they are quite noisy. There are also quiet ones, but they are already expensive.

GAD
: girl_wink: I cannot external link)))

Search for:
Giuseppe Davi of OliOli explains how he makes fresh pasta. 40 yolks, 700 g of one flour, 300 g of another.

The video shows the chef of an excellent Italian restaurant. The fresh pasta is delicious ...
But the set of equipment is outside the scope of the ordinary kitchen. Planetary kneader - conditionally compact))) Vacuumator. Well, cut the result - against the background of the previous two, it has no value))))
Masinen
Quote: Vei
called spiral DOUGH KNEADS,
Looked))
Then Kenwood 080/090 series is also spiral and it can be called a kneader.

But just not as huge as prof.

It perfectly kneads any dough with its spiral hook.
ANGELINA BLACKmore
Quote: Masinen
Kenwood 080
... nothing is the price .......................
Vei
Quote: Masinen
Then Kenwood 080/090 series is also spiral and it can be called a kneader.
no, Mash, the Kenwoods are all the same design, there is a different mixing principle for spiral ones, it's not about the shape of a hook.



Added on Monday 28 Nov 2016 04:25 PM

in spiral kneaders, both the bowl and the kneading spiral rotate, not the hook. And the Kenwoods don't spin the bowl, so they're planetary mixers.
Masinen
Vei, Liz, ahhhh, and the deja is spinning))
So for the Swede, only the bowl is spinning, without a kneading mechanism., Like.
Miranda
Quote: ANGELINA BLACKmore
nothing price-ah-ah

If anything, the 80s models are sold much more expensive than the new 90s.
Because in the 90s there is now a promotion.

And so yes, even with a stock for 60 thousand, the price is high.
For the car itself, maybe not, but just as a sum - great.
ANGELINA BLACKmore
Quote: Miranda
And so yes, even with a stock for 60 thousand, the price is high.
For the car itself, maybe not, but just as a sum - great.
Yes, of course ... Especially when the salary is 9-10 tons.
Miranda
ANGELINA BLACKmore, I agree

You just selected 080, and it is googled under 100 thousand. And like the previous model, there is no stock for it. And 100 and 60 thousand - a huge difference.

Therefore, I wrote, deciding that you only googled the 80th episode.

And so, I completely agree with you.
Sorry if you offended.
Vei
here is a video showing the principle of operation and kneading yeast dough in a spiral kneader:

Masinen
Interesting, of course, but the dimensions are not for an apartment.
This is a production unit)

Vei
Quote: Masinen
dimensions are not for an apartment.
for an apartment the dimensions of the Swede are good
Masinen
I do not want Shveda - it is narrowly targeted for the test.

To me my Kenwood is 100 percent tired in all respects.
And before that, the Swede wanted, but it did not happen)))
And for the best.
Although, to have it purely for kneading dough, I would not mind, it is certainly the best in this matter

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