Ninelle
Umka19, and where are the reviews?
Waist
Quote: Rituslya
I have a question about a gift now. I choose for the price and quality. The choice fell on a small undressed Boshik
And there in the review it is written that in fact it is just a mixer.

I ordered another model, but they sent this one by mistake. therefore I will describe it. This "harvester" is the most basic and one might say the cheapest. In fact, this is just a mixer... The set includes only 3 attachments (whisk, for dough). You can, of course, buy all sorts of attachments, but it comes out much more expensive, so it is better to purchase a more advanced model right away and it will come out much cheaper. This model has low power - 500 watt... The power cord is not automatically retracted, but simply reeled up. The body is completely plastic. The harvester does not make much noise. There are plenty of speeds to use it. The head with whisks rotates, so the kneading will be good and everything in the bowl will mix into a homogeneous mass. Most importantly, the kit comes with instructions in Russian and in many others too. Most likely on other models as well. To summarize: if you only need a mixer, then you can take this model. But all the same, I advise you to take a more expensive model, where there is more power and various attachments are present.

Looking at the nozzles, I tend to the same opinion - a mixer.
The price is, of course, GREAT, but for a kneader it is somehow flimsy.

Now I am puzzled by the choice of a mixer: I don't want a manual mixer, but a normal stationary one is expensive for me. I'll add this Bosch to my list. Thank you!

Rituslya
Natalia, I had it. Not much time, but I used it. Such a pretty dough mixer for small volumes.
You can buy attachments, but in the basic configuration there are only a few of them. In my opinion, 3. Further, the car, probably a kitchen one, turns out with a bunch of attachments.
Waist
Rita, and what did you knead in it? That's exactly the question about the dough. Everything is clear about the cream.
Rituslya
Quote: Waist
Everything is clear about the cream.
we did not make cream with him.
I don’t remember, Natalya. I will have to look for my messages if I wrote about him.
He had such a raking hook, yes.
Didn't disappoint at all.
For a small volume, so just a wonderful baby Ok.
Waist
Rita, Thank you!
Len-ka
Waist, Natalya, I have almost the same, but not empty, but with attachments (harvester). I bought it as soon as they came out (YuV advertised in his program), I use it only as a mixer and occasionally with a blender. As for the mixer, for me now there is not enough power, I want more powerful. Well, it's clear about the cream - there are no complaints, but with the dough it's not all that rosy, in my opinion, the biscuit and light dough seem to suit, but with bread dough it is already hard for him, especially if there is more flour and can sway from side to side, although there are Velcro legs and not bad enough. In general, it may not be a bad device, especially if you just take a naked mixer, it costs its money, but my meat grinder broke and the shredder screw broke. The sleeve of the meat grinder flew off, it is plastic, and the auger broke after the carrot. I thought I was armless, but my friend has the same trouble. Now I'm also looking for something in addition to it, but more powerful. I wanted to make a "wet meringue", but I don't risk it, I'm afraid it won't withstand the load.
P.S. this is just my personal opinion
Rituslya
Quote: Len-ka
here my meat grinder broke and the shredder auger broke
Lena, but by and large, the meat grinder is not a kneader at all.
Len-ka
Rita, a meat grinder is an attachment to a dough mixer and shredders too. Therefore, I wrote that if you take it naked, without attachments, it will even be nothing, but I personally want it more powerful.
Rituslya
Well ... Helen, more powerful, so they are in the price of hoo.
I had this Boshik with three cuts and one meat grinder. I did not touch the meat grinder at all, but, in my opinion, I squeezed the shredder a couple of times.
I don't remember anything later, but the mixer was good and compact.
Ninelle
Well, what about my home, they don’t want me to take Hotpoint-Ariston KM 040 AX0, the main arguments are price and power, and both are not enough for them. - not enough, the price is low - suspiciously cheap unit
Waist
Elena, and what is the power of your kneader? The one offered by Rita has only 500 Watts.

I do not need a meat grinder and shredders, this is already there. But about wet meringue, I need IT.
I don't want to throw money away, I will consider more powerful options.
Umka
Quote: Ninelle
where are the reviews
Ninelle, I found a review on Yulmart and the girl invites her to ask questions. I think it's worth trying to ask her questions, and I think you can see it at Gorbushka. One of the firms has a point of sale there. See with your own eyes what mounts what attachments are made of (plastic or metal), etc., but this is my opinion. If I hadn’t snatched my pet Electrolux a year ago, I would have pecked, but before that I must have gone and felt Ariston. Read about the power carefully, the KitchenAid kneader also has a power of only 300 W, where the drive is arranged differently.
Ninelle
Well, if I don’t order anything while I’m sick, then as I can, I’ll drive it, feel it.
Len-ka
Quote: Rituslya

Nuu ... Helen, more powerful, so they are in the price of hoo.

Yes, the fact of the matter is that the budget is no more than 30 tons. and then, if you try hard. Now take a closer look at the Electrolux, and then Notpoint appeared, but again, the power is too small or does it really have a direct drive?


Added Saturday 19 March 2016 11:09 PM

Quote: Waist

Elena, and what is the power of your kneader? The one offered by Rita has only 500 Watts.
Natalya, yes, these kneaders were one of the very first (mine, in any case) with a power of 500 W, but already the trail of the 47 series and higher they are a little more than 650 W, if I'm not mistaken. It's just that my girlfriends bought after me and I know that they have a little more power, but if garlic, I did not see much difference between them.
But, on a wet meringue, it seems to me that the girls need to ask around, maybe for this, it's generally better than manual, but strong?


Added Saturday 19 Mar 2016 11:17 PM

Umka19, Lyudmila, and your Electrolux whites well? Do you do everything in it?
Umka
Quote: Len-ka
whites whisk well
Elena, he whips whites perfectly. For my needs, it satisfies me completely, but I do not bake for commercial purposes.
Ninelle
Quote: Umka19

Elena, he whips whites perfectly. For my needs, it satisfies me completely, but I do not bake for commercial purposes.

Yes, I also do not work for commercial purposes. But for myself I want to, if whisk the whites - then to the state of foam. If the dough - then for a biscuit, and noodles with dumplings. And the meat for the ham, etc.

And in Electrolux, the second cup also captivates.

The budget is a weighty business, but I have already burned myself on inexpensive equipment. It works as it stands. Costs little and works little.
Glafenia
Quote: severyanka76

Umka19, I liked the Electrolux dough mixer like yours. I looked in the net and it seemed to me that he had plastic blades, except for the rim. This is true? If so, is there any concern that the hook may break when kneading a tough dough. Thank you.
Hello everyone! I've been sitting here in the bushes for a long time, I want to make my contribution. I suffered for a long time with the choice of a kneader, but Santa Claus (husband) decided everything for me. He gave me a dough mixer Electrolux assistent EKM 4500 with a power of 1000 W, I am very pleased with it, it kneads both dough, shortbread, yeast and dumplings, in general, everything that is possible, in my opinion, interferes perfectly. It is convenient that there are two bigger and smaller bowls, the blades are metal, covered with enamel, the cover from splashing, in my opinion, is fragile (or is it just my hands that are crooked), one fastener broke off, it makes noise, of course, at first it was listened to because every time I made new sounds, now already used to it.It has overheating protection (I don’t know how it works, I didn’t overheat). From pampering - nice lighting and design is very even (I have blue). It is also possible to connect a meat grinder, a dough sheeter, a shredder, I don't have all of this, since there is a meat grinder and a shredder separately (Moulinex, I'm very happy with it). I would buy a dough roll, but so far the price is biting.
Helen
Quote: Glafenia
Kneader Electrolux assistent EKM 4500 power 1000 W
Nice car ...
Umka
Glafenia, Yana, thanks for such a review !!! But I answered Severyаnka76's message simply in PM. If it's not a secret, where did you see rolling out for sale? In Russia? I just found it on sale only in Poland.
Len-ka
Girls, I also do not bake on an industrial scale throughout the country, only for my own household, but this happens very often. To be honest, I just fell in love with the electrolux at first sight, such a handsome man! Moreover, two bowls are super convenient. And I already, almost on it, and stopped the choice, but in devil of a doubt I wrote in my soul about Christina, I didn’t even know that they were producing small household appliances. By the way, I watched the video about Notpoint Ariston, they demonstrate the HD line, I did not find such a kitchen machine.
For me, it is also important that you can beat the cream and different dough and minced meat, but I can’t pay 80-100 thousand for Kesha with induction (my dream). I already looked at Boman, but somehow my soul did not lay down.
And, about the price, I won't say, I bought my Boshik not the most expensive, Borki and Mila were much more expensive, but the mixer itself still serves (I wrote about the nozzles above).
MSU
Quote: Umka19
+ my car has a great grinder
Quote: Umka19
grinder is not a fountain. Meat for minced meat and ham I just make in a Zelmer meat grinder
Umka19, that is, the meat grinder disappointed you over time? Also, mind for reason comes from the selection process. I don't want to pay for unsuccessful options, I feel that I have to choose a "naked" dough mixer ...
gala10
Quote: MSU
you have to choose a "naked" kneader ...
Svetlana, I have repeatedly spoken out in favor of the fact that it is better to have each device with a separate motor. Failed - so not all kitchen appliances at once, but a separate unit. Yes, of course, storage requires much more space than for one kitchen machine, but this, if you think very well, can be solved.
MSU
Galina, Thank you!
I read your Temka and also lean towards Bomann 362, but they are not on sale now.
I wanted to ask the members of the forum about Bomann KM 305 CB (it is on computeruniverse - I don't know how to give a link correctly, the system threatens to be banned)
Does anyone have it and what are your impressions?
Umka
Quote: MSU
that is, the meat grinder disappointed you over time?
MSU, Svetlana, no, I didn’t disappoint, but Zelmer changed her mind to give / donate to the godfather ... I will explain why, if I prepare the dough on dumplings / pasties / belyasha, then, accordingly, I will make the minced meat by taking out the attachment from Electrolux, and if I make minced meat for cutlets / zraz or to freeze portions "in reserve", then I will get Zelmer (I also have it with sausage attachments and shredders). For autumn preparations, I also got a meat grinder, not an Electrolux. I hope you get my point ??? !!! Yes, and my husband said that now is not the time to "squander" his goods with such "labor" accumulated

I am writing further ... Immediately I want to ask for forgiveness from ALL owners of Kesha, sorry if I offend you with my writing ...

When I "suddenly" urgently needed a dough mixer like we do, I read / chose for a very long time ..., but since I just didn't like Kesha outwardly, and the technology that I liked (KitchenAid) already cost like a wing from Boeing, then I began to read / look for other options and then about a miracle in the M **** T network there was an action on Electrolux EKM 4200 Assistent. It cost 19 tr. and it consisted of 2 bowls + meat grinder + shredders, power 1000 watts. I also very much hoped that Electrolux would soon put a dough sheeter and noodle cutter on our market ... until I found it on our (RF) market, perhaps because of sanctions, I don't know, but I didn't find it ... Now exactly such a set costs from 29-36 tons.
It's just that when I was choosing a kneader, I read a lot about them. So the KitchenAid power is 300 W, but since.it has a direct drive, then in terms of its power it is equal to Keshe, whose power is 1200 W, but the drive is arranged differently there. Therefore, if you carefully read about Hotpoint-Ariston KM 040 AX0, we see that they declare a direct drive and a power of 400 W and at a price of 9860 in Moscow (yesterday I personally called 2 firms and said what exactly at this price is in availability) it is worth getting to Gorbushka and looking / feeling with eyes-pens ... At this I bow out and apologize for a lot of bukoffs !!!
P.S. And his Electrolux EKM 4200 Assistent is very strong and I think he will work out his money !!!

I wish you success Girls in a difficult task - CHOICE of a new device !!!
Ninelle
Umka19where exactly do they claim direct drive? All I saw is that it has an electric rotating motor .. Is this a direct drive? My husband explained to me somehow differently, but he is never a cook, he is a tanker ..
Umka
Quote: Ninelle
tankman
Ninelle, since a tanker means a techie, and it's worth a lot !!!
Quote: Ninelle
where exactly do they claim direct drive
Now I will try to find Ninelle.



Added Sunday, March 20, 2016 3:10 PM

Ninelle, I didn't find it quickly, but yesterday I read it somewhere. And you have not tried to call by phone. from this site 🔗 They are officials and should know everything about their technique. And with the girl who left a review on Yulmart was not written off ???
Ninelle
Umka19, already found, they are talking about the Direct Drive system, but it is a direct drive. I don’t even know, again I’m in doubt. So I bought a juicer and a meat grinder, like there is simply no overpayment for the brand .. And they died in Bose without having worked even a year. An inexpensive dough mixer, it also overheated from something and the gear flew, although I never overheated it or overloaded it with work. what to do then ..


Added Sunday, March 20, 2016 3:25 PM

I haven't fit in with the girl yet, I'll try now. And these officials do not know anything, they told me that I ask questions that can only be answered by the chief engineer of the plant.
Umka
Quote: Ninelle
what to do then
I would go to Gorbushka and look with my eyes and hands very carefully ...
Unfortunately, Ninelle, I can't recommend anything else.
It's just that if you go back to Ariston's description that he has 5 speeds and look at my Electrolux (10 speeds), then when switching speeds I don't have a strong difference, that is, if you look "real" then he also has 5 speeds .. I hope that you understood what I wrote to you.
Ninelle
I can't write something on Yulmart ...
Umka
Quote: Ninelle
I ask questions that only the chief engineer of the plant can answer
Clearly, a pittance for such sales managers !!! It's just that we all who live on this site are very meticulous when choosing devices. I have so far "furnished" a large household. technique of your new square. all the managers of many online and real stores simply "hung up" from me ... and only one manager, Andrey from X ****** K. ru listened to my theoretical knowledge about refrigerators, supplemented them and helped me come to a consensus when buying. Here ... Again a lot of bukoffs



Added Sunday, March 20, 2016 3:43 PM

Quote: Ninelle
I can't write something on Yulmart
You registered there ???
Ninelle
Umka19, yes Umka, I get it. But I probably won't risk it, look and feel - it's great, but I would also like to work ..
spring
The Metro sells a Moulinex kneader, even recently there was a share of 10 thousand, at a price of 20. Maybe there are already owners of such a machine?
Len-ka
Quote: Umka19

[If it's not a secret, where did you see rolling out for sale? In Russia?

Ludmila, dough rollers and for making spaghetti, I saw technopark here. Ru, the price, however, is a third of the price of the combine itself.
MSU
Quote: Umka19

MSU, Svetlana, no, I didn’t disappoint, but Zelmer changed her mind to give / donate to the godfather ... I will explain why, if I prepare the dough on dumplings / pasties / belyasha, then, accordingly, I will make the minced meat by taking out the attachment from Electrolux, and if I make minced meat for cutlets / zraz or to freeze in portions "in reserve", then I will get Zelmer (I also have it with sausage attachments and shredders).For autumn preparations, I also got a meat grinder, not an Electrolux. I hope you get my point ??? !!! Yes, and my husband said that now is not the time to "squander" his goods with such "labor" accumulated
Ludmila, Thank you! Got it!
Umka
Quote: Len-ka
dough rollers and for making spaghetti, I saw here

Elena, Thank you very much for the link, but for such a price I drive a sparrow on my knees ... Our sellers do not see the edges at all !!! ; -DI will wait until better times and buy these attachments in Europe.
Ninelle
Quote: spring

The Metro sells a Moulinex kneader, even recently there was a share of 10 thousand, at a price of 20. Maybe there are already owners of such a machine?

I looked at it, but it is plastic, and my main requirement for the kneader is that it must be all-metal.

For several years I have been taking household appliances in one online store and only from one manager, and so, today I called him about my throwing, what I want was not available, but he said that it should be only Bosch, Kenwood is in second place, then you can consider Electrolux, taking into account the price of up to 30 thousand., everything else in his opinion (and I trust him very much, well, he did not advise anything bad for all the years that I take from him) - not seriously. He didn’t let me buy Mulinex five years ago. Then I visited my mother And bought a blender, and so, the Boshes were not there, I bought Moulinex, it was in my hands, during work, and fell apart, and I interfered with the child kefir with a banana, and not parmesan with nuts, and when I came to the store, they calmly explained to me: "yes, this often happens to them, it's good that it hasn't hurt you yet .."

Len-ka
Quote: Umka19

Our sellers do not see the edges at all !!! ; -DI will wait until better times and buy these attachments in Europe.

In general, I do not understand the pricing policy of our stores. And I finally made my choice. I will take Electrolux 4500.
Well, why didn’t I think about purchasing a new kneader, while my husband was often in Europe. now I scold myself strongly.
Rituslya
I had both small Boshik and Boman, and now Ken. And Kenov was already 3 for the entire period of my desire. I am very pleased with all of them, although the very first one was made of plastic, most likely. I don't look in other directions now. I completely satisfied my Wishlist.
Ninelle
Rituslya, I don't have a kneader, just a Bosch-cube combine, it is also plastic and I am very pleased with it too. But this is Bosch. And again, this is my opinion, supported by practical advice from a smart person and my own experience.
Rituslya
Ninelle, no, no, no. I didn’t doubt the correctness of your choice.
Anchic
Ninelle, can look towards the Boshey then? Or do they not fit into the budget?
Glafenia
Quote: Umka19

Glafenia, Yana, thanks for such a review !!! But I answered Severyаnka76's message simply in PM. If it's not a secret, where did you see rolling out for sale? In Russia? I just found it on sale only in Poland.
Lyudmila, sorry for the late answer (started spinning). When my husband bought in a technopark (don't count it as an advertisement) he was offered to buy it for 10 tons. And now they no longer have it, I got confused, looked for it and got upset, really not anywhere, only in Europe. I want to write to the service center
Ninelle
Girls, thank you very much for the advice and discussion. I bought Bosch, and yesterday I baked cupcakes with his help, to say that I am happy is to say nothing
It fit into the budget, I just could not decide. Doesn't fit Ken induction. Because the apartment needs to be repaired, the child needs to buy a piano, and the husband knocks the car

By the way, who has not yet decided on the 003 action - when buying a kneader, there is a 50% discount on the attachments, and the price of the combine and the delivery speed are very pleasant.

Masinen
Ninellewhich Bosch did you buy?
Ninelle
Masinen, Bosch MUM-XL 40 G, at first looked at the same chocolate color, but while I thought they soared in price. And gray granite suits me better in color.
Masinen
Ninelle, good! Congratulations!!!
Umka
Ninelle, CONGRATULATIONS!!! Finally, your choices are over !!!

Ninelle, is it metal?
Ninelle
Thank you girls! Yes, it is all-metal, just on some sites the information is incorrect. Plastic - only plugs, button rim and cutting attachment.

Now the agony of choosing a piano torments me
Umka
Quote: Glafenia
got confused, looked and got upset, really no where
Glafenia, Yana, everything is. Together with the girls, they have already found everything, but
Quote: Umka19
I am driving a sparrow on my knees for such a price ... Our sellers do not see the edges at all !!! I will wait until better times and buy these attachments in Europe.
Yana, here is the link 🔗 and then look at their website ...


Added on Tuesday 22 Mar 2016 10:30 AM

Quote: Ninelle
Yes, it's all metal
Ninelle, then at 2, no congratulations !!! Ttttttttt, hi serves for eleven years !!! Did you forget to wash it? The warranty does not apply to the not washed equipment !!!

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