Gingi
Quote: Tiziana
Yes, coffee can overheat and burn in Brikka, so it must be removed from the fire immediately after opening the valve. It gets very hot.
I read somewhere that it was necessary to take it off the heat and cool it down as soon as the valve worked. The people specially prepared basins of ice water, supposedly the only way to get delicious coffee.
auntyirisha
I climbed everything, called everywhere, I did not find "Cuor di Moka" Even at the office. the site "Bialetti" in Italian does not have it.
Bast1nda
Quote: Wildebeest

Yarik, I also pour hot water on the recommendation. I also read that real coffee is the first 30 ml of the drink. They themselves forget to do this all the time in order to feel the difference.
Everything is true, but it seems to be only true for espresso coffee machines, where the pressure is.
Tiziana
Quote: auntyirisha
I climbed everything, called everywhere, I did not find "Cuor di moca" Even at the office. the site "Bialetti" in Italian does not have it.

It is no longer produced. By the way, Mukka too. These are old models.
Cuor di Moka is an exclusive edition of Bialetti, developed with Illy's coffee. Produced exclusively in Italy. That's why I wrote that this is a rare case. Now all mocks in Romania are of a different quality.
auntyirisha
Natalia, so in the geysers, too, the pressure, only less. It is believed that at the beginning water passes through the coffee, but part of the water becomes steam there, and when the steam, which has a higher temperature, already begins to pass through, then the taste deteriorates. This, if I understood everything correctly.


Added Friday 27 Jan 2017 8:04 pm

Tiziana, oh, it’s a pity how .. Well, if a successful model, why not release it! Please tell me which model produces the coffee that tastes as close as possible to "Kuor", in your opinion?
Bast1nda
auntyirisha, no, I know the theory well, but for espresso, I have a decent experience and cars))))) There and the first extraction, 30 seconds is even a bit too much for the pros, you need to calibrate the leak and look at the color. I will not say to what extent this rule is generally applicable to geysers.
I have been keeping track of the topic of coffee machines for a long time, there are such odious guys there, so much for me))))))
auntyirisha
Natalia, I'm generally a layman. She wrote that she had read exactly about geysers (perhaps the principle of operation is similar, only such pressure as in a car cannot be obtained in mock). I'm afraid to look at cars so far (especially at prices).
Tiziana
Quote: auntyirisha
After all, if a successful model, why not release it! Please tell me which model produces the coffee that tastes as close as possible to "Kuor", in your opinion?

About the success is also a controversial issue. I heard that Kuor's valve is quite delicate and over time it can start to create problems.
But I still adhere to the point of view that if you are not lazy and thoroughly rinse and dry all the parts after each use, then there should be no problems.
The best coffee (strong, aromatic, frothy) is made by Brikka. In general, I consider her a very successful model, light, miniature, easy to clean.
But the Mukka model is not for the lazy!
auntyirisha
Tiziana, good morning! How are you feeling today? Please tell me, if "Brikka" (it is possible to buy it from us), then how to avoid overheating of coffee in it? Today I will go to receive a fresh parcel with Brikki coffee yet, I will cook at Moka Express. I wonder where Brikki is made now?
Tiziana
auntyirisha, Good :)
I gradually come to my senses.
Just remove the brick from the fire as soon as the valve opens and pour the coffee into the cups. I don’t do anything special with her anymore.
Bialetti are now all Romanian. Don't look for Italian, you won't find it.
auntyirisha
Tiziana, thank you very much for your reply. Ordered "Brikka" for four cups. Here's another thing that interests.We have moka for two cups (I don't remember exactly), but in fact it turns out that for one. Do "Brikka" have the same "cups" in volume or more? Maybe I should have ordered two? There are also mocks for barley drink (they write that for acorn coffee), but where to get it? I haven't seen it for a long time. My grandmother cooked this, I also want to, and even in specials. device!
Tiziana
auntyirisha, In Brikka, there are the same tiny (Italian) cups, so you did the right thing by taking at 4. At 2 there is nothing for a Russian person to drink. But keep in mind that the coffee will be very strong. You will immediately understand this as soon as you see the coffee container. It is more than an express train, for example.
Where in Russia to get a barley drink, and even for moka, I don't know, you have to look, at least on the Internet.
Gingi
Quote: Tiziana
Bialetti are now all Romanian. Don't look for Italian, you won't find it.
Depending on the model, production is located in different countries. Bialetti has China, India, Romania and Italy.
In Italy, the classic aluminum Moka Express and Dama remained. In China, the models are Venus, Kitty, Junior, Allegra and electric. Glossy, Moka Induzione Express, Moka Farfalle, Moka Teschi, Fiametta, Mukka and Brikka are made in Romania.
So if you need Italian, you can still find it.


Added Saturday 28 Jan 2017 12:41 PM

Quote: auntyirisha
Ordered "Brick" for four cups.
They write that the volume of the finished drink is 200 ml. Not much for one? You can't do half there, the taste will be wrong.
Tiziana
Quote: Gingi
In Italy, the classic aluminum Moka Express and Dama remained.

Where is the information from? Bialetti closed its factory in Italy back in 2010. Where do they make them now in Italy?
I bought a cute set from the Moka Express for Christmas. Here is such.
Geyser coffee makers
It doesn't smell like Italy.
Geyser coffee makers


Added Saturday 28 Jan 2017 1:30 PM

Quote: Gingi
They write that the volume of the finished drink is 200 ml.

Who writes? Italian coffee cup-30ml. 30x4 = 120 Not 200 ...


Added Saturday 28 Jan 2017 03:25 PM

For Italian portions of coffee, I would like to add some information for clarity. Someone might say "how are these small portions? There is Mukka for 2 portions, and how big is it and how much coffee does it make ?!"
I explain, cappuccino in Italy is NOT coffee, it is exactly cappuccino. And when you come to the bar, they ask you: "What are you going to do? Coffee, or cappuccino?" The Russian person thinks that cappuccino is also coffee, only it has a different name. This is not the case for Italians. Coffee is coffee, and cappuccino is a separate drink.
auntyirisha
Tiziana, I also do not drink strong coffee. Even from mocha, I dilute a little with boiling water and add 10% cream (I like them more than with milk). Gingi, Galina, no, this is for two, I can't do it alone.


Added Saturday 28 Jan 2017 06:11 PM

Tiziana, looked for barley, did not find it yet.
Gingi
Bialetti closed its factory in Italy back in 2010.
I came across different information. Including this: The Bialetti company unites five brands that produce dishes, kitchen accessories and kitchen appliances. These brands are: Bialetti, Rondine, Girmy, Aeternum and CEM. Bialetti dishes and other kitchen utensils are made by the company's own factories in Italy: in the Province of Brescia (Coccaglio) and in Verbania (Omegna) - as well as in Turkey and Romania.
Half a year ago, I was given a Moka Express. So it says that it was made in Italy. I don’t think they hid it for about six years so that I could sell it out from under the counter. And my Mukka country of production (Romania) was indicated only on the box.
Tiziana
Quote: Gingi
Half a year ago, I was given a Moka Express. So it says that it was made in Italy.

I have not written the country of origin on any geyser. Can I have a photo? Very interesting to see.
Gingi
Quote: Tiziana
I have not written the country of origin on any geyser. Can I have a photo? Very interesting to see.
Made in Italy is only available on Moka Express. I insert a photo for the first time, I shot it on the phone, I don't know how it will turn out.
Geyser coffee makers
Geyser coffee makers
Geyser coffee makers
Smile
I also practice uploading pictures
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Geyser coffee makers

It turns out!
Tiziana
Quote: Gingi
Made in Italy is only available on Moka Express.

Thank you! Great.
They began to write in the most prominent place. Apparently, so as not to lose completely Italian buyers. Because when they transferred production to low-cost countries, many refused to buy Bialetti and began to buy mocks from other manufacturers. They are trying to save face at least on the classics.
It's a pity that Romania came across to me. Apparently in the sets they shove what is cheaper.
auntyirisha
Tiziana, Hello! How are you doing in terms of recovery? Please tell me if there are any nuances in making coffee in Brikka? What you need to pay attention to, in particular in relation to the valve (something I'm afraid of him).
Smile
Quote: Tiziana
And where is the information from? Bialetti closed its factory in Italy back in 2010. Where do they make them now in Italy?
It is quite possible ... on mine, inside, it is worth ... 2004 did not immediately make out ... but bought this year
Tiziana
auntyirishaThe nuances, as elsewhere, are to observe the proportions of water and coffee, not to engage in amateur performances.
The valve in Brikka is non-removable and reliable. After using it, when washing, you need to scroll and move it up and down, thus it is cleaned.
julia_bb
auntyirisha, take another look at YouTube videos, type Bialetti Brikka, the whole process is visible there
Gingi
Quote: Tiziana
The valve in Brikka is non-removable and reliable.
Actually, the valve is collapsible and needs to be flushed.
Here are some Bialetti Brikka disassembly videos.


auntyirisha
Thanks everybody! I watched the first video, it didn't really inspire me. Somehow everything is not easy for him: he wipes it, makes holes with a toothpick .. I'll go and see others.


Added Wednesday 01 Feb 2017 07:25 PM

Tiziana, and how are you feeling?
Tiziana
Quote: auntyirisha
and how are you feeling?
Yes, I'm almost a cucumber, but my youngest daughter is really bad, coughing up to vomiting ...
auntyirisha
Ay, ay .. It’s not worse when the kids are sick! Let him get better as soon as possible! If anything, we have good doctors on the forum, you can ask around.
Gingi
auntyirisha, from the first video it is more or less clear how Brikka looks disassembled. The second shows how to disassemble and assemble the valve itself.
Tiziana
Quote: auntyirisha
If anything, we have good doctors on the forum, you can ask around.

Where are they found? In what Temko?
Gingi
Tiziana, the forum has a topic "Doctor, I'm to you ..."

https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...com_smf&topic=28451.12200


Recover.
auntyirisha
Tiziana, oh, just saw. Galina answered
auntyirisha
Well, I was left without a brick. The parcel arrived, I ran after it, I had to borrow money, because I didn't get enough. I come, the girl asks if I will look? We unpacked it, got into the box, I immediately started screwing the valve, and then I looked, the handle was in the bag, I thought: now I’ll screw it on, but it’s broken off. Both boxes are intact, that is, they put it in the store. In short, I took spare rubber bands to the Moka Express, paid 380 rubles for their delivery.
And she went home. I will look for how to buy Kuor ..


Added Monday, 06 Feb 2017 6:03 PM

Tizianahow is your daughter?
Gingi
Quote: auntyirisha
and then I look - the handle is in the bag, I think: now I'll screw it on, but it's broken off.
The pen can also be bought separately, there are online stores that sell various components for coffee makers.
auntyirisha
Gingi, Galina, well, I'm not buying a new coffee maker in order to pay the full price, plus shipping costs, to look for and buy parts that were not broken by me. If I exploited it and broke something, then yes, if I fell in love with the coffee maker, I would look for it .. If I find a more reliable store, I will try to order it again.
Gingi
In theory, a normal store should replace your coffee maker at its own expense. And even add some gift.
My sister is constantly ordering coffee for herself and us in "Elcanto", bought coffee makers for her birthday, whoever wanted anything. There have never been any quality problems. Maybe they send to you.

🔗


They have BIALETTI BRIKKA ELITE for 4 cups 0000534 / MR for 3800 rubles. Doesn't seem very expensive?
I bought myself a BIALETTI DAMA GRAN GALA for 2 cups just that week. They sent it even earlier than promised. I am very pleased, the coffee turns out great. Finally I found the optimal size for myself. I put it next to my MUKKA, it turned out a set in the same style. Now I thought about the cappuccinatore.
auntyirisha
Galina, thanks, I'll take a look there, even cheaper than my attempt. I have a cappuccino maker (not cheap, Graef), but a French press perfectly whips milk, it's even faster and easier for me.
Gingi
Their prices are not very bad.Sister, usually, calls us, we collect which coffee needs, so as not to pay for delivery.
The prices for cappuccino makers are awful now, so I'm thinking for now. Do the French press and the cappuccinatore whip the same way, or is the difference still felt?
It seemed to me that it would be very difficult to rinse the French press after frothing milk, so I didn't even look in their direction.
If you were choosing now, what would you buy?
Tiziana
Quote: auntyirisha
Well, I was left without a brick.

Oh, how annoying. But I heard that people often complain about Brikkin's pens. I chose mine in the store, opened the boxes, looked at which one was nicer to me ...
I just brewed coffee for my husband in Brikka, I thought "what a successful model after all." Everything about it is easy and simple.
And then she brewed a barley drink with milk in Mukka. And how much fuss with this Mukka ...
P.s. The children never fully recovered. It seems that the disease is about to pass, and again will cover your head ...
auntyirisha
Galina, I would not overpay now for a cappuccinator: the French always whips any milk, some cappuccinator is better, some is worse, one plus-handles are free, and you work with the French (but only 30 seconds - a minute). My daughter says that there is no difference, I did not really delve into it. Mine in the dishwasher, no problem. We take coffee from "Torrefakto" (grade No. 6 "Ethiopia Irgacheffe" liked the most so far), they always have it fresh, if there is no coffee grinder, you can order it. In general, I like how customers are treated and they like coffee)
Tiziana, kids health!
Gingi
Quote: Tiziana
And how much fuss with this Mukka ...
My daughter has mastered it, she cooks for herself quite often, but she doesn't like washing, she trusts me this responsible procedure.
Quote: Tiziana
The children never fully recovered.
And I thought that everything is fine with your medicine and there are medicines for all ailments.



Added Monday 06 Feb 2017 08:36 PM

Quote: auntyirisha
French always whips any milk,
And do not tell the model, what would I immediately think in the right direction?
auntyirisha
Quote: Gingi
And do not tell the model, what would I immediately think in the right direction?
Oh, Galina, I have "Bodum" (now I looked, it already costs more than I bought a cappuccinator The main thing is that the brand is good, and not "it is not clear what kind of steel." On "Ozone" I found a Bodum coffee pot "Brazil" with a press (Switzerland) 1799r.
Tiziana
Quote: Gingi
only she doesn't like washing

So washing me, especially the upper part, with burnt milk, pisses me off.


Added Monday 06 Feb 2017 09:03 PM

Quote: Gingi
And I thought that everything is fine with your medicine and there are medicines for all ailments.

With medicine, just not very good. After Russia, it is very uncomfortable that the doctor does not come to the house, you have to go yourself. In most cases, I start the disease in such a way that I don't even have the strength to get to the doctor. I have to lie down at home.
One thing is good, there are no counterfeit medicines and rudeness is absent as a phenomenon.
So there are pros and cons everywhere ...
Gingi
Quote: auntyirisha
Coffee pot Bodum "Brazil" with press
Been lying in my mezzanine for several years, I did not know that it was such a useful thing. And now they started repairing and threw out everything that was strongly interfered with and had not been used for a long time. I told my husband that as soon as you throw something out, it will definitely be needed.
Now I'll show you what he threw away, and how much it costs now, I will admire the expression on his face.


Added Monday 06 Feb 2017 09:31 PM

Quote: Tiziana
the doctor does not come to the house, you have to go yourself.
That is, a sick person with a high fever and infecting everyone around him should get to the doctor himself?
Tiziana
Quote: Gingi
That is, a sick person with a high fever and infecting everyone around must get to the doctor himself?

Quite right, you get in the car and drive.
auntyirisha
Tiziana, and if the kids are sick? Carry too?
Tiziana
Quote: auntyirisha
and if the kids are sick? Carry too?

Yes, everyone drives. They don't even know that a doctor can run from house to house, as in Russia.
Mirabel
Tiziana, are you sure about that?
here you can call a doctor home, you just have to pay for the visit right away. But later the insurance will return a part.
Tiziana
Quote: Mirabel
Tiziana, are you sure about that?

Absolutely. I'm talking about public medicine. Private traders may go, but I'm even scared to imagine how much it will cost. We have no insurance. Therefore, no one will reimburse anything. We live in Italy.
kolobashka
Uh, is this a coffee maker topic?

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