Korella
Quote: mju

Korella, how imperfect the world is, Panasonic breaks down in 1.5 months, Viconte smells ... Now I finally don't know what to choose I will follow the development of your story
Well, Panasonic, I hope they will fix it, it is under warranty. It's just that they were very surprised in the service that the cartoon broke during work, they have not had this before. Usually, they said, electronics are buggy. I'll tell you in fact what happened to her.

If you need a little porridge, for example, for two to cook, then 10 Panasonic is what you need. I am very pleased with her. But one small one is not enough for me, therefore, if she left for the service, I began to look for a bigger companion for her, but with the same functions. The best thing, of course, would be to take a second Panasonic, but they disappeared from sale, and where they are, they already cost 6-7 thousand.

Having shoveled the reviews on different forums, I came to the conclusion that the ratio price quality Visconte for me in this situation is just what I need!

If now you do not take into account the smell, then comparing 2 manufacturers I can say that Panasonic is made of better quality plastic, there are no burrs from the casting mold on it. The bottom inside the multicooker at Panasonic is even, and at the Visonte there is a pin on a spring. Their cooking functions are similar, the recipes are carbon copy. But the difference in price they have now is more than three times.
Aygul
There was also a smell at the beginning. The food did not smell, but when I opened the multi, I wanted to open the window right away - to air it out. I pulled out the valve (sniffing, I found out that the gum smells from it), "Steam cooking" 20 minutes. Everything, no longer smells. Oh yes, the valve with detergent washed and dried well.
ITU
It has been a long time since I came here. I also want to say about the smell. I bought the cartoon 3-4 months ago in Mosmart. A handy thing, but the smell ... the smell never went away. My men cannot eat what is cooked in the Vicus, some sense of disgust appears (I don't want to offend anyone, but that is what it is). In general, I don't use it because of the smell.
I bought myself another toy in Stockman, not cheap, I will not name the brand, otherwise it will be considered an advertisement. This car is ... good. In the first use, of course, difficulties arose, but after carefully reading the instructions and using the advice of experienced people from this forum, all the difficulties disappeared.
True, they say that the miser pays twice.
ITU
Quote: Tatiasha

In stockman, KuKu, it means ... and what your Viscount smells like, I don’t know, well, God forbid that this one, for almost 10 pieces, doesn’t smell.
Yes she. And it doesn't smell. Home cooked dishes are eaten only with the feeling that they are very tasty.
And vikusya smells like some kind of chemical-medical smell. And if you add spices like that with some kind of medicine. In this thread, one girl wrote that like antibiotics or something, that's how I was. It's a pity the device is smart, I have adapted to it, but alas ...
Sergey_A
Quote: Korella

Yesterday I made pilaf, did not eat, I tried it, the chemical taste on my lips. Today I set the steam cooking mode for an hour without anything, the smell does not go away yet. I have a Japanese dishwashing detergent, it washes and removes odors remarkably, but here it is powerless.
I bought a Viscount last month too. There was no smell, but knowing that he might have boiled water. I use it. While alive.
Ronaverona
I got Viconte with a strong smell, there was a smell of gum on the rim of the lid (the seal seems to be). After a 2-minute steamer session, the smell was less, but not gone. I suspect that the new Viscontes, which have recently come off the assembly line, are suffering from odor.
The food does not smell, there is no smell of plastic in the kitchen. I must say right away that I have an excellent sense of smell, plus I am allergic with asthmatic manifestations.Oh yes, in an amicable way you need to wash the lid right away, the smell will pass. I just rubbed it, and when I washed it, the smell disappeared.

In general, the multicooker is good, but you shouldn't pay attention to the strong smell now. Many manufacturers reduce the cost of production at the expense of materials, so there is a smell in Viscount, in Panasonic - a bad saucepan and processor glitches. Even the vaunted Maruchi got all sorts of dirty tricks.
Tatiasha
Washers !! Look at the instructions before you wash the lid !! Then you will cry for another reason ... I consider all crying imaginary people, someone wrote about it and suddenly you "noticed" it. There was and is not any chemistry in the smell, only the smell of the dish remains, which evaporates with the preparation of the next one.
Ronaverona
Tatiasha, well, actually, it smells like "chemistry", the seal is made of polymer without offense, I’m just for clarification. But the fact that there is nothing harmful - you are right.
It is really not worth washing the lid under running water (i.e., unscrewing, etc.). I wiped it with soapy water and then gently washed it off with a wet rag, but I had to tinker.

I have specially smelled the multicooker now, the sealant still smells faintly ... of rubber, but it's made of it. And in Panasonic and should not smell anything, given the cost and manufacturer, as well as a bunch of patents and its own research centers.
Tatiasha
Only without jerking, OK ?? Take care of your nerves.

I draw a conclusion - I was the only one who was lucky with CF and does not spit and does not smell of chemistry - which I am glad about !!
balerian1
Quote: Tatiasha

Only without jerking, OK ?? Take care of your nerves.

I draw a conclusion - I was the only one who was lucky with CF and does not spit and does not smell of chemistry - which I am glad about !!

I'll stand by my ear ... ... I also have no problems
balerian1
In connection with the increased frequency of complaints from members of the forum about the "sharp chemical" smell of CF, a commission of 5 (five) people was created, which proceeded to the finished product warehouse, where about 4000 (four thousand) VC-600 multicooker is waiting for its shipment to consumers. .. all devices are sorted by lots. During the check, we counted MV from 4 (four) different delivery lots ..... We randomly checked 400 (four hundred) multicooker from different lots. Conclusion: no smell detected!.... anticipating angry objections, I will immediately dot the "I": our health is all right ... our noses smell ... warm warehouses ... vodka and other alcohol-containing liquids before testing ... ( and after it) did not use !!
Korella
Quote: Tatiasha

Only without jerking, OK ?? Take care of your nerves.

I draw a conclusion - I was the only one who was lucky with CF and does not spit and does not smell of chemistry - which I am glad about !!
Apparently I was out of luck. It happens.

So, for those who are interested, it’s not a saucepan and not a gum of the sealant that smells (or rather, the gum only absorbs this smell), the inner bowl of the multicooker and the bottom (where the temperature sensor is).

I repeat once again, where the food is directly prepared, that is, the non-stick coating, the pan DOES NOT Smell.

While trying to treat the smell with steam and airing. If the lid of the multicooker is not closed, the smell is weak. It will stand to cook or just stand closed, you open it, you can smell it. Precisely chemical-medical, as it is correctly described here.

Korella
Aha, just now I went out onto the balcony, where the cartoon is being ventilated in the open, sniffed it again. When I turned the multicooker over and sniffed its base, the smell comes from the grates at the base.

balerian1, it's very nice that there is feedback and a commission has been created. If this helps you, my cartoon number is EX47576000861.
balerian1
Quote: Korella

Aha, just now I went out onto the balcony, where the cartoon is being ventilated in the open, sniffed it again. When I turned the multicooker over and sniffed its base, the smell comes from the grates at the base.

balerian1, it's very nice that there is feedback and a commission has been created. Please smell the party from which my cartoon is! Her number is EX47576000861.
nuuuuuuuuu ... I can imagine the worst thing ... in your MV, some kind of super-spy of cockroaches got to us from China, because we also checked the EX series ... and MT
Ronaverona
And I smell like a cartoon inside, I didn't notice it before.

Valery, as a matter of fact, these are not angry shouts. We are stating a fact. As I already wrote, the smell can be caused by many factors and you know that. I believe that if people pay attention to the smell, then it is there. In other multicooker, this also happens, in Marusy for example.

Another question is that the scentness of the Visconte does not in any way affect the quality of food and its performance. Why some members of the forum react strangely to the question about the smell of Vikosha, I cannot understand. Kindergarten of some kind.
Ronaverona
Quote: Tatiasha

Only without jerking, OK ?? Take care of your nerves.
I remind you that incorrect statements about other participants are not welcome on the forum. Before writing anything, think about your words. I did not allow myself to make such statements addressed to you.
And my inside smells like a cartoon, I didn't notice it before.

Valery, as a matter of fact, these are not angry shouts. We are stating a fact. As I already wrote, the smell can be caused by many factors and you know that. I believe that if people pay attention to the smell, then it is there. In other multicooker, this also happens, in Marusy for example.

Another question is that the scentness of the Visconte does not in any way affect the quality of food and its performance. Why some members of the forum react strangely to the question about the smell of Vikosha, I cannot understand.

Julcha
Quote: Korella

Aha, just now I went out onto the balcony, where the cartoon is being ventilated in the open, sniffed it again. When I turned the multicooker over and sniffed its base, the smell comes from the grates at the base.

Most likely it smells like wires, maybe the contact somewhere is not very good, something burns out .. Or maybe the insulation itself smells like that, if the smell is turned off. There is odorous rubber - for example, the soles of cheap Chinese slippers, the same rubber was used to make the insulation for the wires. Probably
Julcha
Quote: balerian1

currently there are two types of coating Xylan and QuanTanium (for VC-600 bowl coating) ..... Xylan is less durable, but does not smell ..... QuanTanium is more durable, but there is an odor that disappears when washing or cooking. ... the first MB models (without baking) were equipped with Xylan coated bowls ..... the later generation (with baked goods) - QuanTanium

And what does the model without baking mean? Without inscription? Or have the functions of porridge soup also changed with the appearance of a new inscription?
balerian1
Quote: Julcha

And what does the model without baking mean? Without inscription? Or have the functions of porridge soup also changed with the appearance of a new inscription?

a request about this was sent to the Chinese ... there is no answer yet
Korella
Quote: Julcha

Most likely it smells like wires, maybe the contact somewhere is not very good, something burns out .. Or maybe the insulation itself smells like that, if the smell is turned off. There is odorous rubber - for example, the soles of cheap Chinese slippers, the same rubber was used to make the insulation for the wires. Probably
I also think that insulation can smell. Therefore, probably, Panasonic has a deaf bottom so that the electrical part with the bowl does not intersect in airspace.

The fact is that this cartoon was presented to me and the check remained with the donor. Therefore, I cannot ask for a check to return it, because then the person will be upset that his gift did not please me.

Therefore, now while I will intensively ventilate it.

At the same time, I want to note that I really, really like Vikosha. And I understand very well those who praise her and who had no smell. And I sincerely wish myself that everything would end with me on airing.
Julcha
Quote: Korella

I also think that insulation can smell. Therefore, probably, Panasonic has a deaf bottom so that the electrical part with the bowl does not intersect in the air.

The fact is that this cartoon was presented to me and the check remained with the donor. Therefore, I cannot ask for a check to return it, because then the person will be upset that his gift did not please me.

Therefore, now while I will intensively ventilate it.

At the same time, I want to note that I really, really like Vikosha.And I understand very well those who praise her and who had no smell. And I sincerely wish myself that everything would end with me on airing.

And offer Valery to smell it, he, as a specialist, will immediately diagnose. Otherwise he was unlucky, together with the commission, 400 pieces were sniffed out, and nothing was caught
Julcha
Quote: Sergey_A

a program for reading this file, which must be downloaded

What file, where to download ?? More? Tell me who knows what I'm talking about!

The file is called Multicooker.mcb. The program for reading it CookNotes.exe is a culinary notebook. The link where I took it does not work anymore, try to search somewhere on the Internet, it must be somewhere ... I also found the program on the open spaces of my native Internet.
Korella
Quote: Julcha

And offer Valery to smell it, he, as a specialist, will immediately diagnose. Otherwise he was unlucky, together with the commission, 400 pieces were sniffed out, and nothing was caught
He offered me this himself, for which he has great respect.

It's just that the circumstances are developing that in the next couple of weeks it will not be possible to carry out this, so for now I am airing.
balerian1
Julcha EX and MT are different manufacturing plants ..... It is in the Soviet Union that the development, production and sale of goods was done at the same plant .... Under it, there was the entire structure necessary for this ..... Now everything is to another. Especially in China .... I hope not to explain what a "sample order" is ?? ..... Many manufacturers even include a phrase like ..... "The manufacturer reserves the right to include in the design and characteristics device changes without prior notice .... "
balerian1
Quote: Tatiasha

oh, don’t say, but what posts they write, and how many emotions are negative, and the accusations are unfounded, ay-ay-ay.

Valery, we are the luckiest here. Hurrah!!

We are the majority !! ...... but seriously - many simply have not yet squeezed out the consequences of the USSR .... when buying equipment we subconsciously looked for at least some shortcomings in it ... the principle of "comparison" is still quite strong in us
Julcha
Quote: Tatiasha

oh, don’t say, but what posts they write, and how many emotions are negative, and the accusations are unfounded, ay-ay-ay.

Valery, we are the luckiest here. Hurrah!!

People have normal emotions, and the accusations are fair. Since you can behave yourself on the forum of professionals, but here, excuse me, people without experience, still only mastering and studying. Their task is to ask stupid questions - your task is to help figure it out, since they are so omniscient ...
Julcha
Quote: balerian1

Julcha EX and MT are different manufacturing plants ..... It is in the Soviet Union that the development, production and sale of goods was done at the same plant .... Under it, there was the entire structure necessary for this ..... Now everything is to another. Especially in China .... I hope not to explain what a "sample order" is ?? ..... Many manufacturers even include a phrase like ..... "The manufacturer reserves the right to include in the design and characteristics device changes without prior notice .... "

Actually, the question was not about manufacturing plants ... Yesterday you said that the Chinese have not yet answered, but some time ago you said that the answer was received: "no modifications" ... that's what I was trying to clarify.
Tatiasha
Yulcha, are you sure that I am a professional in CF ?? Nope, I'm a consumer. Tip: do not thicken the colors and do not look for a black cat in a dark room. Everything is simpler than simple: the girl has run out of arguments, so she begins to hang dogs, well, it's not my fault that I got a high-quality one (MV), and some of them were not lucky.
balerian1
Quote: Tatiasha

Yulcha, are you sure that I am a professional in CF ?? Nope, I'm a consumer. Tip: do not thicken the colors and do not look for a black cat in a dark room. Everything is simpler than simple: the girl has run out of arguments, so she begins to hang dogs, well, it's not my fault that I got a high-quality one (MV), and some of them were not lucky.

Tatiasha Fully OK ...Julcha read carefully:from the point of view of technology, I can disappoint you - the VC-600 has no modifications ...... this is not the ANSWER of the Chinese ... this is a statement of fact ...but the fact that they are collected at different factories - there may be discrepancies ... and not only in appearance (... butterflies were not drawn ... another drawing ..) ... but also according to the program .. and whatever do not return to this question anymore - I like to think that they have just finished adding baked goods - well, well .. Your right ....... now you can exclaim "... AAAAAAAAA ... I SPEAKED THE SAME !! .. ... "
SKIPER
Can you please tell me, did anyone buy Viscount in Ukraine, or only sell it in Russia?
balerian1
Quote: SKIPER

Can you please tell me, did anyone buy Viscount in Ukraine, or only sell it in Russia?

there is a SC in Zaporozhye ..... it means there may be a store
SKIPER
Quote: balerian1

there is a SC in Zaporozhye ..... it means there may be a store
It's just that Ukrainian online stores don't have this MV.
Tatiasha
Have you looked at the sites ?? I advise you to call and find out ... They are not in Omsk either, however, I called the local MI and asked to bring them, to which they replied that there are already three brands on sale of MV, on the same day I purchased it. I did not understand why they were not on the site, only recently they were put up, like the ice cream maker, after my call about its availability.
Julcha
Quote: balerian1

Tatiasha Fully OK ...Julcha read carefully:from the point of view of technology, I can disappoint you - the VC-600 has no modifications ...... this is not the ANSWER of the Chinese ..... this is a statement of fact .... but the fact that they are collected at different factories - there may be discrepancies .... and not only in appearance (... butterflies were not drawn. .. the drawing is different ..) ... but also according to the program .. and in order not to return to this question anymore - I like to think that they have just finished adding baked goods - well .. Your right ....... now you can exclaim "... AAAAAAAAA ..... I SPEAKED THE SAME !! ....."

I'm not going to exclaim anything, you love attacking civilians with Tatiasha for nothing ...
So what kind of answer are we expecting then? If everything is clear anyway? ..
Julcha
Quote: Tatiasha

Yulcha, are you sure that I am a professional in CF ?? Nope, I'm a consumer. Tip: do not thicken the colors and do not look for a black cat in a dark room. Everything is simpler than simple: the girl has run out of arguments, so she begins to hang dogs, well, it's not my fault that I got a high-quality one (MV), and some of them were not lucky.

Consumers are also different, someone is better at understanding it, someone is not. Someone was unlucky with the unit ... instead of advising on how best to act, gloat that you are lucky, but they are not. Who hung which dogs and where? Cite, please, I did not find something ...
Ronaverona
Quote: Julcha

Consumers are also different, someone is better at understanding it, someone is not. Someone was unlucky with the unit ... instead of advising on how best to act, gloat that you are lucky, but they are not. Who hung which dogs and where? Cite, please, I did not find something ...
Thank you for your support. I didn’t find any hanging dogs either, but I can hang my own. An East European shepherd dog, a big fan of the Visonte multicooker. You can't make rice out of a saucepan, but it grazes around the cartoon. And he sighs constantly, he would have will - the cartoon worked around the clock

God grant that we got the last copies of the odorous series. Let's not get personal and help each other. Here I have a question. I'd like to make lazy cabbage rolls (cabbage, minced meat, onions, etc.) in a multicooker. Do you think this dish will work in the PLOV mode? I'm afraid that on STEWING the cabbage will turn out to be like boiled, but on PLOVA the liquid will evaporate and the dish should be a little fried ... in theory.
mju
and I have one more question for those who smell. Is it a smell that was heard when you opened the box or that appeared after the first use? That is, can I protect myself by going to the store and smelling my future multicooker?
She is sensitive to odors, I handed over electric kettles twice because of a chemical smell.
Julcha
Quote: mju

and I have one more question for those who smell. Is it a smell that was heard when you opened the box or that appeared after the first use? Ie.can I protect myself by going to the store and smelling my future multicooker?
She is sensitive to odors, I handed over electric kettles twice because of a chemical smell.

It seems to me that if the smell is initially present, and even if it is rather sharp, then it is better not to purchase such a slow cooker. As for the teapots, I somehow watched the show, they carried out an examination, so "fragrant" are generally life-threatening. On the other hand, if the saucepan itself does not smell in the CF, then it is probably not so dangerous. Although, the people also complained about the smell in the dishes being prepared. This is definitely not useful.
Korella
Quote: mju

and I have one more question for those who smell. Is this a smell that was heard when you opened the box or that appeared after the first use? That is, can I protect myself by going to the store and smelling my future multicooker?
She is sensitive to odors, I handed over electric kettles twice because of a chemical smell.
Unfortunately, I don't remember at all if I noticed the smell when I took the cartoon out of the box. I took out the saucepan and went to wash it. And when I washed it, a pungent smell went up my nose. That is why at first I thought it smelled like a saucepan. It was later that I stuck my nose inside.

I think if you're shopping at the store, try wetting the outside of the pan with your finger and smell it. Still stick your nose inside and smell the bottom. Perhaps you will come across a cartoon from an odorless batch.

Mine is on the balcony with the lid open for the fifth day. The smell is already faint, but still present. We continue airing.

PySy: I still remember, it seems that my cartoon inside the box was still in a tied transparent plastic bag.
Julcha
Quote: Korella

PySy: I still remember, it seems that my cartoon inside the box was still in a tied transparent plastic bag.

Well, the package is okay, and, probably, the saucepan itself was in a separate package ...
Korella
Quote: Julcha

well, the package is okay, also, probably, the saucepan itself was in a separate package ...
Yeah, there was a saucepan in the package. Both a container for a steamer and a wire. And the foam was still in the box. Yes, everything was packed well, that's a fact.

Julcha
Quote: Korella

Yeah, there was a saucepan in the package. Both a container for a steamer and a wire. And the foam was still in the box. Yes, everything was packed well, that's a fact.

the packing method is unlikely to affect the smell

Ronaverona
Quote: Korella

Yeah, there was a saucepan in the package. Both a container for a steamer and a wire. And the foam was still in the box. Yes, everything was packed well, that's a fact.
I also liked the sturdy packaging (a broken glass does not count), and I also liked the good build.

I still cooked cabbage, in the "Pork with cabbage" version. On the "Stew" mode, the cabbage was stewed for 2 hours, but when the cartoon rang, it turned out that the dish was not ready. I had to put on "Pilaf" (I didn't want to, because I don't like fried cabbage) and after 50 minutes I finally got my meal. It turned out very tasty, I didn't even expect it.

It turns out that if you stew cabbage, then you need to set it for 3 hours or even more, but then a lot of liquid remains. You can put it right on "Pilaf", in this case the cabbage changes color (which I don't like), cooks quickly and turns out to be stewed and fried. Next time I will try to extinguish it for 3 hours, and then put it on "Pilaf" for 20-30 minutes to bring it to readiness.
lisi4ka - sestri4ka
Good day everyone! Today I finally became the proud owner of Vikuska! I got it for only 1599 rubles !!! There was a promotion in the store. They ran home with the little one and immediately began to cook pilaf. Note that there was no smell in the saucepan.
Now I'm looking forward to what will come of all this. It's been 15 minutes already. I have a question: is it working so quietly or is there something wrong with me?
Julcha
Quote: Ronaverona


and I also liked the good build.

I still cooked cabbage, in the "Pork with cabbage" version.

Assembly is yes! When I came to the store for mine, I was still undecided, either a viscount or a Panasonic.She was the first to pick up Panasonic - this option immediately disappeared, everything is so crooked, oblique! And what a beauty next to him Vikusya probably, because the girl

In! exactly! I have not tried cabbage yet. On the contrary, I like fried cabbage. Thanks for the advice, I will do it on pilaf ..
Julcha
Quote: lisi4ka - sestri4ka

Good day everyone! Today I finally became the proud owner of Vikuska! I got it for only 1599 rubles !!! There was a promotion in the store. They ran home with the little one and immediately began to cook pilaf. Note that there was no smell in the saucepan.
Now I'm looking forward to what will come of all this. It's been 15 minutes already. I have a question: does it work so quietly or is there something wrong with me?

Works quietly, only clicks the relay during cooking, changes modes
Rita
lisi4ka - sestri4ka,
and in which city is this action? And in which store? Maybe there are still people willing to buy for such a price?
lisi4ka - sestri4ka
Julcha, thanks a lot! At first I was scared that it was not working! But now 35 minutes have passed and the apartment is filled with an amazing aroma. Tell me, do you need to interfere or do not need to open the lid at all?
lisi4ka - sestri4ka
I bought a multicooker in the city of Serebryanye Prudy at the Lakmin hypermarket. There are also these shops in Kashira and Stupino. Now (until mid-June) the action is taking place. To buy a multicooker with a 50% discount (as it costs 3200), you need to collect 4 coupons. ! a coupon is given for a purchase in the amount of 600 rubles. Since I buy products only in this store, I collected coupons for 2 trips to the store and today I decided not to waste time, but to buy right away!
Tatiasha
chanterelle, you can be curious, but there is no need to interfere.
the price without the stock is unreasonably high, mine, the non-stock price is 2052 rubles.

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