fugaska
so I tried to fry the meat on baking ... while baking cakes, I would not even think about opening the lid
Kitty
fugaska, so the instructions describe the temperature regimes for all programs
Hairpin
Quote: lga

3D heating is also available in Panasonic. Only the top heating power is very low. Exclusively against condensation.

Nope ... Tama, in Panasonic, when Baking, the lid starts to play smartly. This power is not needed for condensate.
lega
Quote: Hairpin

Nope ... Tama, in Panasonic, when Baking, the lid starts to play smartly. This power is not needed for condensate.
Hairpin! I quote:The MV does indeed have a heater in the lid (a large loop around the perimeter).
There is also a thermal sensor (central part).
Since there are no additional heat-insulating elements, then
it is clear that the heater is low-power, it is more correct to call it
heater.
Its resistance (to cold, i.e. at room temperature) is 1.17 kOhm,
which means that its power is only 44W. when eating
voltage 220V.
It is unlikely that it is capable of developing a golden brown crust.
fugaska
I report on the next testing
Yesterday on the agenda were Kiev cutlets (well, I want to find the very ideal mode for frying meat). I have to tear my hands off, of course, for this work of art, conventionally called "Kiev cutlet" - there is no skill, I tried to wrap the butter in "shreds", when frying it (oil) flowed out (although not from all cutlets), so there are certainly no pictures will be
now in essence: "soup" mode, put cutlets (7 pieces, a bit crowded) and fried with the lid open. the gurgle was good, and oddly enough along the edges of the saucepan too! after 10 minutes the gurgling stopped, but in less than 5 minutes it resumed - so it was throughout the entire time (that is, gurgling, then no). in general, for frying it is quite an acceptable mode (I will still try all modes for comparative analysis). and it seems to me that the temperature is too low on the "soup" for frying ... although there is a plus - it will not burn!
out of inconvenience: cutlets (more precisely, MY cutlets) must be fried in a pan - it's terribly inconvenient to turn over! or you had to sew them around the edges! and my rolling in an egg and breadcrumbs was not enough, they (cutlets) all the time strove to fall apart at any attempt to turn them over!
convenient: there is a "heating" mode and a "heating" mode. that is, after turning off the main program, the heating is automatically turned on (you can, of course, turn it on with your hands), or if you do not transfer food from the saucepan, then you can get it out of the refrigerator and just heat it up! (but in Panasonic, if my memory serves me, it was even written that you should not reheat food on the existing keep warm mode)
Featured favorite: in view of the not super-frying temperature in the "soup" mode, when frying meat, a golden brown crust turns out, but does not burn, almost automatically turns into stewing, and this is actually healthier, and the meat does not dry out, it turns out very juicy!
condensate: well, no it !!! in Panasonic I scooped out practically, but here not a fig gets into the container! today only one drop of glass! on the sides of the multicooker in the morning walked with a rag, wiped the lid AND EVERYTHING!
smell: when I just opened the multicooker, there was a rubber-plastic smell. after the first preparation of food, the smell was barely caught, now there are no foreign smells. the food was not affected at all! Well, in the sense that I was not saturated with this smell, although both times I left it (food) overnight in a slow cooker.
here, I reported
lega
Fugasca! Thanks for your observation and report. It is the details and little things that are most interesting, especially in comparison with Panasonic. In spite of everything, this cartoon is still the most widespread, and comparison with it makes BRAND's features understandable. We are waiting for the next tests and impressions.
fugaska
Hello everyone!
I didn’t have the Internet yesterday, I couldn’t give a report, I tried the "milk porridge" mode. appears like this:
a mixture of oatmeal and barley (flakes, but ordinary, not instant) poured a full measuring cup and another quarter cup in volume. according to the recipe from the instructions, you need to take milk with water, which I actually did - three cups of water and 3 cups of milk (I don’t make dry porridge for children, so I initially "laid down" liquids with a margin). further as per recipe: 5 tsp. sugar and 0.5 tsp. (I put three quarters of a teaspoon in) salt. Stir slightly and set for 1 hour. I did not specifically set a delay, I wanted to personally attend the cooking. nothing escaped in an hour, so it is quite possible to put a reprieve for the night. 25 minutes after switching on, it began to gurgle insanely, I stood for 10 minutes over the pan on a nix (like suddenly it starts to run, so at least I'll catch it), but everything ended well - after 10 minutes the gurgling subsided and the porridge was cooked in peace. I did not open the lid during cooking on purpose (after all, an automatic process is not recommended). an hour later the cartoon squealed and I naturally climbed inside. boiled there for the entire volume, up to the lid, because everything was in porridge (both the sides of the saucepan and the lid). I deliberately left the porridge in a saucepan until morning (no heating, nothing turned sour). the most interesting observation: the porridge was baked to the bottom, that is, at the bottom it turned out to be a casserole of porridge (it did not burn to black, namely, it was caked, with a golden brown crust). I had to make this casserole myself for breakfast, and I gave the rest to the child. in general, something I did not understand with this mode! in Panasonic this has never been observed - I constantly made porridge there, in all modes. I'll try to make porridge without milk, but it seems to me the result will be the same ...
PySy: but no condensation!

and one more observation, for especially olfactory personalities (well, suddenly there are such). I "stuck" my nose to the valve during cooking - the smell of boiling milk porridge, without impurities. but on the right, on the side, where the lid closes, she caught the faint smell of new plastic. even asked her husband to "sniff". at the family council, it was decided that this is normal: the smell is really subtle, this is just the third dish that I cooked in the new multicooker.

here, I reported
I'll probably take a break today - I had a night adventure yesterday https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=12915.0, so today I am unlikely to experiment much
I remember about the biscuit, next in line I will try to "charge" in parallel with Panasonic and the brand
Cvetaal
and my milk porridge ran away

IRR
Maybe this milky porridge mode is suitable for baking? Or for pilaf, since it fry there at the end. For milk porridge, it is clearly not a tavos ...

Fugasca, At the same time I read about yogurt in a garbage can
Quote: Cvetaal

and my milk porridge ran away
Cvetaal, maybe overflowed the norm?
Quote: fugaska


PySy: but no condensation!
And the gypsy and I already knew it (only no one believed us)
lega
A land mine! Was there no condensation in the morning when you opened the cartoon? In Panas, when I cook, there is no condensation. But if I leave it on heating for a long time or just like in a thermos, then there is a lot of condensation. I think this is a normal physical process.
Gypsy
Quote: lga

A land mine! Was there no condensation in the morning when you opened the cartoon? In Panas, when I cook, there is no condensation. But if I leave it on heating for a long time or just like in a thermos, then there is a lot of condensation. I think this is a normal physical process.
and if you leave the rice cooker with food for even longer, then there will be not only condensation, but also various other flora and fauna

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fugaska
So the fact of the matter is that inside, on the lid, there is a lot of condensate, and in the drip tray specially designed for collecting condensate - not a drop !!! there was one for all three dishes, the day before yesterday, when she fried cutlets in Kiev. where does it (condensate) go? fig knows him, but it's dry in the "sump"
and I leave food only until the morning, flowers with butterflies do not have time to start, and then for reasons of "languor" of food
Tanyusha
fugaska, I realized that you need to pour more liquid into the porridge when you cook in Brenda, I poured 1 liter of milk onto millet porridge (1 1/4 measuring cup), it did not burn, but the porridge was not liquid either, but I would like it thinner.
fugaska
oh, I don’t know - I had a lot of liquids, I’m thinking, maybe it’s because of milk ... in general, I’ll also try porridge until I understand this regime ...
Tanyusha
Not milk has nothing to do with it, the temperature in the porridge mode should be lower, otherwise there is a very intense boiling on it.
Gypsy
do not throw slippers at me, that's what I will say .. the Chinese do not have milk porridge, they don’t consume milk either .. so the porridge in the rice cooker is most likely conceived not to be milk, hence the quality of cooking.
IRR
then you have to look for - like SOUP.

Gypsy! You yourself showed us how the famous Miyazaki (it seems) cooked noodles in the cartoon office and it was liquid. (Hey and not dairy)
IRR
Fugasca!, why aren't you writing about the convenience of a removable cover (insert) on the Brand? Or did you not check it out?
fugaska
yes, the temperature is not thought out somehow ... but the porridge is cooked from 40 minutes (up to two hours), so, in principle, the normal cooking time. but it gurgles sooooo much
fugaska
Quote: IRR

Fugasca!, why aren't you writing about the convenience of a removable cover (insert) on the Brand? Or did you not check it out?

I’m ashamed to admit - I’ve never taken it off ... I wiped it with a wet rag, and that's how I washed it ... I'll take it off today!
Gypsy
Quote: IRR

Gypsy! You yourself showed us how the famous Miyazaki (it seems) cooked noodles in the cartoon office and it was liquid. (Hey and not dairy)
Well? he cooked it on the stove like .. boiled instant noodles and milk porridge what is the connection? especially in japan
lega
Quote: gypsy

and if you leave the rice cooker with food for even longer, then there will be not only condensation, but also various other flora and fauna

I don't understand why the question addressed personally to Fugaske, called at You desire to leave incorrect comments.
IRR
Quote: fugaska

.. wiped it with a wet rag, that's actually how m
it's you out of habit ...

I'll retreat a little (not the first time) - when I set myself the goal of buying a multicooker, I read everything on the network about this mechanism. It was very surprising for me that entire branches in the topic were devoted to the smell from Panasonic (from all previous preparations) and how to deal with it. What was not suggested - and wipe the rubber bands with vinegar and leave the lid open all the time so that the saucepan does not choke, etc., about how to wash the lid under running water - well, these are just acrobatic tricks. who fights at once. And now we all have taken on the forum for herring in oil in a slow cooker (which must be simmered for 6 hours). Well, I don’t know ... how then to cook milk porridge in it, if only for cats (IMHO wash the lid after the herring with a wet rag - mauvais ton, ladies). But no one, of course, is to blame - we get out as best we can. Therefore, removing the cover is a mess. For me, the decisive factor in the purchase of YUMMI was precisely this subtlety (and also a saucepan like Brandovskaya, and not a goggle thin luminescent) well, it seems, in the subject .. did not move away
IRR
Quote: gypsy

Well? he cooked it on a stove like ..
not ... naughty In a rice cooker, which is a multicooker.

The bond that was prepared in a liquid substance, like milk porridge, and nothing burnt or escaped. We are looking for this particular program - milk porridge in Russian?
Quote: tanya1962

the temperature on the porridge mode should be lower, otherwise there is a very intense boiling on it.
+1
In my own, frankly speaking, all milk porridges are stewed. Tanya, Fugasca, look for the extinguishing mode so that without active buns, similar to Panasonic. (in the worst case, you will have to jump and click on the heating next to it so as not to run away. And this is no longer an automated process)
fugaska
there is a stewing mode, but its temperature (according to the instructions) is too high ... I just wanted to fry the meat in baking, but it turned out to be extinguished, so now I will try the stewing mode for frying - fig knows it, maybe all the modes there just need to be renamed ! )))))))))))))
IRR
Quote: fugaska

there is an extinguishing mode, but its temperature (according to the instructions) is too high.
We know. FROM Tanya passed, and therefore wrote - extinguishing by analogy with Panasonic... Another request - some of you (Tanya and Fugaska) have the opportunity to measure the pace. heated. Just need to measure 2 hours after switching on. If it (heating) gives out 80 grams, then you can turn on the milk porridge on any program until it boils actively, and then switch it to heating like simmering in a slow cooker. And at night is not critical. And he won't run away. The only thing is that you can get porridge with baked milk. And this can someone
Tanyusha
The stewing mode is exactly the stewing, the goulash turns out great, and on baking I have it in 10 minutes. a golden brown crust is obtained on pork, fried a whole piece of 1.2 kg, first on baking from both sides until crusty, then on stewing for 2 hours, it turned out delicious.
IRR and how to measure and with what?
fugaska
I, too, have nothing to measure the temperature with ... there is an option to put a Teskom's thermometer in there, but I don't have it - can anyone give it to me? ))))))))))))))))))))
IRR
Quote: tanya1962

The stewing mode is just stewing, the goulash turns out great,
well, goulash, I see ... but if there is milk porridge on it?
Quote: tanya1962

I have it in 10 minutes. a golden brown crust is obtained on pork, fried a whole piece of 1.2 kg, first on baking on both sides until crusty, then on stewing for 2 hours, for
I remember everything. Your pork stands before my eyes
Quote: tanya1962


IRR and how to measure and with what?
Well, I guess with a temperature probe. Although I personally do not have it ... that's why I blurted out like that. But the girls measured it somehow. And what does the instruction about heating give out there? In any case, you have to check it yourself. That's what testing is for.
Gypsy
Quote: lga

I don't understand why the question addressed personally to Fugaske, called at You desire to leave incorrect comments.

lga, this is not a comment, this is a continuation of thought
Tanyusha
IRR on the account of milk porridge for stewing is an idea, you must try. I have a Teskomovsky thermometer, how can I figure out how to measure the temperature.
Gypsy
Quote: IRR

not ... naughty In a rice cooker, which is a multicooker.
Encore
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Luysia
Quote: IRR

And now we all have taken on the forum for herring in oil in a slow cooker (which must be simmered for 6 hours). Well, I don’t know ... how then to cook milk porridge in it, if only for cats (IMHO wash the lid after the herring with a wet rag - mauvais ton, ladies).

IRR, I made sprats (and even added a drop of liquid smoke), there were no cats at home, so I washed the saucepan, poured some water and threw in the lemon scraps (all that was left after squeezing out the juice). She switched on for 10 minutes Steam cooking, then washed the saucepan and wiped the lid.

And in the morning I put milk porridge, not for the cat, but for the husband! No smell!

I am not against, but very much FOR a removable cover, I just gave an example of what to do for those who have Panasonic.
IRR
Quote: gypsy

Encore
I'm a slowpoke. In full confidence, I arrived that he was cooking in a rice cooker. Probably I've seen enough in the rice-cooking theme, here I am Solokha
Quote: Luysia

), cats are not at home,


Luysia, I know. You have a dog and a husband at home.
zvezda
Most of all here I was worried about the smell !!!! after advice on the cap and gum, I took it off, washed it well (which I did not do right away) and that's it !!! The smell is gone !!!
Land mine!!! Dear girl !!! Our good girl !!!! Let's try the pastries !!! I didn't succeed ...: red: but the nest pasta cooked perfectly. And the fact that there all the modes are confused already Tanya wrote !!! But now we need to make our own list of modes ...I would experiment, but who will eat all this?
fugaska
So, I charged two biscuits 15 minutes ago - in parallel, the brand and the Panasonic. we are waiting ...

about the removable cover - bravo to the manufacturer !!! removed with a slight movement of the hand, comfort on the face !!! Actually, I'm happy with the removable lid!
fugaska
girls, to say that I'm upset is to say nothing! here I am exhibiting my art ...
I made a milk biscuit (I foolishly thumped sugar exactly as much as in the recipe, and in fact I had already empirically determined that exactly half was needed !!!), for six eggs. the resulting dough was simply distributed over two saucepans. baking mode in both multicooker. in Panasonic the maximum time is 65 minutes, and in the brand I set it as close as possible - 1 hour 10 minutes.
the top in finished form, as you can see, is absolutely the same - ruddy and does not smell
Multicooker Brand 37500

about the burnt bottom, I think comments are unnecessary ...

in general, in such a mood I am not capable of decorating feats at night, so I will go and get drunk with grief (those twenty drops that my husband literally off the master's shoulder ...)

I don't want to say "Panasonic rules", but the comparative baking result does not speak in favor of the brand ...
lega
A land mine! Why are you so upset?
From Panasonic it is quite possible to make a cake with decorations (if you want), and from the brand - "Broken glass" or something else (not for me to teach you). Apparently, Brenda has more baking capacity and needs to shorten the baking time, I think so.
fugaska
Well, how did you get upset about what? It is clear that the biscuit will not disappear from me, but the baking result did not please me at all! here it is, that very intense gurgle in the center of the saucepan, when I either fried or stewed the meat ... - came out with a burnt bottom of the biscuit!
pleases only one thing - no condensation! the truth is, it is not in both multicooker ...
lega
Judging by the burntness, it seems that the thermoelement is poorly distributed along the bottom. Therefore, milk porridge with a crust turned out.
fugaska
so I am about the same ... my husband said that in Panasonic the heating element is distributed over a larger area than that of the brand - that's where the dog rummaged. technically it is necessary to fix this particular "detail"
Gypsy
About condensation is very clearly visible from your photos, in Panasonic the whole lid is covered with dew and on the biscuit you can see the place marked with water from the valve, and in Brand it is absolutely dry.
Multicooker Brand 37500
Teen_tinka
It is very interesting to read the tests of the cartoon. I think the Fugasca biscuit will repeat (in different versions) like in the previous branch the biscuit was baked, and it was nothing. Maybe the brand really needs a little less time for baking.
fugaska
Of course, I will repeat the biscuit, but I think the issue of burning will not be removed - in the middle of the mode there is a very intense heating, about 10 minutes, and the rest of the time there is no such thing. so as an option to get rid of the burnt priests, you can reset the baking mode in the middle of the program and turn it on again, well, in the sense that without waiting for the moment of intensive heating, reset the program and start over - you need to try, suddenly it will help
but I would like an automatic process ...
IRR
And I liked everything. And in vain you Fugasia, was upset. For me, biscuits are not an indicator. I have other priorities - soups, borscht, porridge, potatoes, etc. Cooking? cooks. Extinguishes? extinguishes. Does it turn itself off? - great! What else do you need for that kind of money? These pots are helpers for us in simple housekeeping in the kitchens, and they'll go out of their way with biscuits, blancmange and fricassee - that's - for the holidays near the stove - as much as necessary. Nobody forbids how to grill ...
You, Fugasca, finally a hammer! At 3 o'clock in the morning, bake in 2 casseroles and put on a report with fotami. ... I worked out my pan to the fullest ... (I also once glued wallpaper at night and baked Napoleons (that was crazy ...)
Tanyusha
fugaska in Brenda you cannot put baked goods for more than 1 hour, 10 minutes were superfluous. For 1 hour everything is perfectly baked, I don't even leave it on heating, I take it out.
IRR
Quote: tanya1962

fugaska in Brenda you cannot put baked goods for more than 1 hour, 10 minutes were superfluous.For 1 hour everything is perfectly baked, I don't even leave it on heating, I take it out.
Tanya! ,! It's not so much about these 10 minutes as the type of biscuits. It can be seen with the naked eye that in Panasonic it is higher and better. And these 10 minutes do not really play anymore. During these 10min. a biscuit in Brand will never be the same as in Panas. As regrettable as this may sound for lovers of biscuits in a multicooker. The temperature regime itself must be adjusted and the heating elements, but this does not depend on us, it is up to the manufacturers. (Although, if you really want to, you can adapt for 10 biscuits)
Gypsy
Quote: IRR

It can be seen with the naked eye that in Panasonic it is higher and better.
Do you think so? It is necessary to find out from Fugasca how even the amount of dough she poured, since the shape of the bottoms of the pans is different, there may be an optical illusion (gyy like Raikin's)
IRR
Quote: gypsy

Do you think so? It is necessary to find out from Fugasca how much an even amount of dough she filled, since the form
do you want to know if those 20 drops of liquor prevented her from pouring an equal amount of dough at 2 am?
Tanyusha
IRR due to the fact that I have nothing to compare with, then I am very pleased with the biscuit that I got, after all, at first I only wanted a cartoon because of the biscuit.

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