svk222
Elena Bo,
What rusts is high-carbon steel, the strongest rusts. With Japanese knives as well, high-carbon ones are immediately coated with a bloom, and softer ones, with additives, can already be used as we are used to. I want her and as a juicer for berries - make jam / syrups
Elena Bo
After the holidays I will try to reap the berries. I don’t know what will happen, because I read somewhere that they seem to be not for berries. Tomatoes are too tight.
The nozzle itself seemed small to me (in the picture I imagined it more) and there are replaceable nets.
svk222
The berries should go too. You can't get juice from them on a centrifuge (the instructions say in plain text: don't squeeze tomato, strawberries and kiwi). But the auger should not go thick. What is for tomatoes - I read as "not for beets" but for juicy pulp. I will wait for the call
Biryusa
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I have Axion M 32.02
The impressions are very positive.
Elena Bo, I support. I have the same meat grinder, it has been working for the third year without complaints and without replacing consumables
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So far I only use it as a meat grinder, but I have three graters for it and a screw juicer.
I didn't like the vegetable cutter in it - the body is clogged with grated vegetables, and I have to stop the process and "help" with a fork. This happens because the drum does not have such a spiral-support for the axis, which, when rotating, pushes grated vegetables, such as in Lepse / Gamma:
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But I do not bother about this, because I already realized that it is better to have a separate device for each operation, and I have several vegetable cutters. But as a meat grinder Axion is very good.
(I have never used a juicer).
If I were buying Axion again, I would have chosen the simplest basic model without additional devices.

Elena Bo
The fact is that when I bought, the price of a meat grinder without anything was 200 rubles less. I decided not to save. And about the vegetable cutter - I know that. I had this type of hand, I also had to help remove the rubbed from the middle, otherwise it would get clogged. I didn't even know that there are such graters with a spiral.
svk222
Biryusinka,
Axion 41 has splash protection, and on YouTube, a woman shows how to make a similar one out of a plastic bottle. For wiping large volumes I will continue to use a combine with horizontal discs, but I liked the idea with the spiral. Is it attached to the front of the locking ring? then the same bottle may come in handy. Thanks for the idea.
Biryusa
Quote: svk222
The Axion 41 has splash protection,
I read that Axions of the thirtieth series are more reliable.
Quote: svk222
Is it attached to the fixing ring in front of you?
It is attached to a large ring, which is screwed onto the vegetable cutter, and is located inside the drum body
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This is at Lepse (Gamma), I had it in front of Axion. In it, very often I had to change spare adapters, I bought them for 5-10 pieces (tired to hell), so I took another.
Quote: Elena Bo

The fact is that when I bought, the price of a meat grinder without anything was 200 rubles less. I decided not to save.
Similarly

Elena Bo
I wanted to buy a protective screen first, but then using it I realized that there was no urgent need for this. Very rarely splashes. Panasonic sprinkled it great, I had to block it with my hand so that I didn't spit half a meter ahead.
Here is a protective screen.
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Indeed, you can cut it out of a plastic bottle.
svk222
Quote: Biryusinka
Series 30 axions are more reliable
Thank you, I will know that it was not in vain that my intuition dissuaded me from the latest novelties this time.

My brown harvester also spat, but, I think, due to the fact that I immediately chopped chopped onions on cutlets. And on Axions on the Yandex market in two reviews it is written that they spit. Apparently, the habits of preparing meat are also affected. So I was delighted with the decision.

Oh, girls, thanks for the support in making the right choice, now I will wait when I come.

Elena Bo
You just have to throw the meat gradually so that your throat doesn't get clogged. It will not be necessary to push hard with a pusher and will not spit. But Panasonic under the same conditions spat and chewed minced meat. As I remember, I will shudder.
lega
Quote: Elena Bo
But Panasonic under the same conditions spat and chewed minced meat. As I remember, I will shudder.
My Panasonic has nothing like this. It's even strange to read about such problems.
Katris
I ask for advice! Belarusian old woman Mriya died. Need a replacement. After reading the topic, I consider Zelmer. I'm only interested in the functions of a meat grinder and a tomato juicer. I found ZELMER MM1000.82 Symbio in available online stores. What can you say about her?
Or already take our local Axion? Budget and spare parts are always available. According to reviews, she has one minus - noisy.
Elena Bo
Axion is not noisier than the others. Here's a little bit.
Katris
I bow to Axion 31.04. The Zelmer that I looked after seems to be an outdated model, you won't find spare parts if something breaks.
shade
Peace be with you bakers!

Kate--

and for the price they are like

Katris
Anatoly, thank you!
I found model 31.04 (with a juicer and a reverse) for 2600 rubles, for 2320 rubles they did not call back yet.
In general, the juicer attachment adds 130r to the price, and the reverse adds 270r.
kVipoint
In Zelmera, even with a crush, the meat does not need to be pushed, it passes by itself, it is so powerful and there is no splash at all)))
Elena Bo
I don't push the meat into Axion either, I just throw it in pieces.
Zelmer also wanted, but the price would be 2 times higher. Now I do not regret the choice at all.
I tested the auger nozzle.
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Put a coarse mesh
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It squeezed out quickly, without problems, did not spit. The cake is certainly not dry, it would have been possible to cook compote from it, but the juice separated well and there is a lot of it.
Washing is a bit tricky compared to a freestanding auger juicer.
For large workpieces, it is quite a convenient thing, since it can work for a long time.
svk222
Elena Bo, did not flow from the "joints"? on Yandex there is a lot of criticism in this regard ... And in the photo, as if at the bottom, as if you can see a drop? Although what to find fault with, my Boshik and minced meat twisted leaking (((
The proportions of cake and juice are still very good, judging by the photo !!!
Elena Bo
I also really like how the cord is wound.
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Since I don't need a long one, I wound it, leaving a small piece and closed the lid. It is very convenient for storage, does not interfere.
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Elena Bo
It was not leaking from the junction, everything was tightened with a screw. But on the back of the white pallet, it leaked, because it is not clamped, but simply put on top. The currant juice is thick and flows slowly along this groove, therefore it seeps a little from the other side. But since it gets into the cup anyway, it doesn't matter.
Katris
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I also really like how the cord is wound.
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And a pin in the middle for storing additional grills from the grinder
Biryusa
Quote: Katris
And a pin in the middle for storing additional grills from the grinder
Well, wow! And I broke my head, why this pin. I even tried to stick a fork on it. And the grates hang on some hook in the cabinet and fall all the time at the most inopportune moment. I'll go right now and put them in place
Katris
Elena Bo, do you have any shredding attachments? Are you using?
I'm already thinking about taking something with all the attachments
Elena Bo
Lattices are fitted onto the pin. I barely found them, I thought I hadn’t put them in, I already wanted to order. But I don't store them there, it's not convenient for me.
Katris, there are shredder attachments. Not used yet. I can only say that the drums themselves are big enough. I saw such graters from Phillips, well, very small.
lira3003
Today they also brought Axion to me, with a juicer. I ordered it without grades, because.there is a harvester. So the coolest thing, they brought me a RED meat grinder! I saw the manufacturer on the website, but did not think that they were brought without the consent of the client.
Elena Bo
Quote: Katris
Elena Bo, do you have any shredder attachments? Are you using?
Oh, I didn't see the message, I'm sorry.
There are shredders, but the hands do not reach to use. I cut small quantities of vegetables with Burner.
Quote: lira3003
they brought me a RED meat grinder
How interesting. I have not seen such. And what model?
lira3003
Quote: Elena Bo
How interesting. I have not seen such. And what model?
Axion 31.04. To be honest, I chose Axion only thanks to your feedback, I just don't need shredders.

Elena Bo
Well, my model is different. I hope you will not be disappointed.
By the way, last week I had to test the zelmer 687. A flimsy machine, buzzing no quieter than Axion. Under load, it begins to squeal sadly. Not impressed.
lira3003
If I'm not mistaken, do you have 32.02? When I chose mine, it was not there. And to be honest, I didn't really need it, this is the first kitchen toy that my husband needs. Said "choose and order"! So we waited for the order for 8 days, although the Princess pizza maker "stuck" to it. Now I have two red beauties!
svk222
I wonder if the difference between 160W and 230W is significant for a meat grinder? In terms of the noise of Axion, the 12th and 32nd turns out to be not 1.5, but 3-4 times more powerful = noisier. Now I think, is it worth it? If anyone does not care about the cord compartment and the reverse, whether there will be a noticeable difference in power, at home we do not twist horns and hooves.
In terms of speed, I correctly guessed the same as in noise, the difference is three times. 0.5kg versus 1.5kg per minute.
Natawa
Good morning ! Your advice is very necessary! I read the topic about Selmer meat grinders and additional attachments to them and caught fire to change myself a meat grinder. I have a Brown meat grinder, I have been thinking of giving it to my mother for 8 years. I ordered myself a model Zelmer ZMM1208SUA (MM1200.80) with a full set of attachments (except for cubes) And today I read a lot of reviews that everyone grinds meat well only at the beginning, and then you have to carry a knife to sharpen, otherwise the meat chews (my brown also seems to me like minced meat as if chewed) Now I'm sitting upset. Another tip, who has a cube attachment is worth buying it or not. There is a Bosch kubikorezka combine, but somehow it did not work out with it, so I rarely use it, and the meat grinder bribed that it is small and does not need to be pulled out all the time, let it stand on the table.
Natawa
From the very beginning, when the idea came to change the meat grinder, I wanted to take a PHILIPS HR2728 / 40, and a nozzle for tomato juice came to it according to the action. and the price is cheaper than Selmer, (I needed a tomato nozzle to make ketchup in the summer and that's it), and then I went to read the forum, and all I needed was a mill nozzle and a cube cutter nozzle. Who has this meat grinder and attachments You are satisfied, otherwise there is time to change your mind (and there is no money now, so I was so fired up with this idea of ​​changing the meat grinder that I took and paid with a credit card, and they should bring it on Friday, if something is wrong, my husband kills or will already hand over for treatment) I no longer tell any of my friends and at work I do not talk about purchases, I even try to order while my husband is not at home to hide everything until I come
Natawa
Help me decide on a meat grinder and attachments!
Elena Bo
Quote: svk222
In terms of the noise of Axion, the 12th and 32nd turns out to be not 1.5, but 3-4 times more powerful = noisier.
I don’t understand, but what is the connection between the motor power and noise?
svk222
So I wanted to know straight or geometric)))
But in the store I listened to the Axion 12th model - it was very quiet, comparable to a combine, compared to the 32nd !!!, which is like an airplane taking off.
The seller said that because of this they are the 12th and trade, since the noise depends on the power
Elena Bo
I would listen to sellers less.
shade
Peace be with you bakers!

Natawa-- - and then you have to sharpen the knife
Don't read negative at night.
Read the positive - HAVE NOT EVEN BEEN GRINDED
What does it work quite often
Natawa
Anatoly, Thank you! I'll try it tomorrow!
Lanna
Good day!
I really need advice: I want to buy email. meat grinder - choose between Axion 31.02 for 3200rub. (grates Ø 5 and 7 mm, + with oval holes, vegetable cutter with 3 drums (shredder, coarse grater and for potato pancakes), screw juicer) and Zelmer 987.86 for 5 thousand... (grates 2.7, 4 and 8mm, vegetable cutter with 4 drums (shredder, coarse + fine grater and for potato pancakes), citrus juicer.
There is a Berner grater (I use it all the time, but when I rub it a lot, my hands get tired) and a Moulinex centrifugal juicer (we don't use it almost, because it's difficult to clean).
Pros of Axion: it is widespread, consumables are on sale, it seems like lattice knives and a juicer should be suitable from Soviet meat grinders.
Zelmer has been wanting for a long time, but it's a pity for money, then something else, but it's Zelmeer, who cuts pencils. Cons - there is no auger juicer, and you can get fig consumables.
Mom has Moulinex with a juicer and a separate vertical auger, we use it during the harvesting period. At home I can’t imagine yet why we need a screw in a meat grinder, maybe because it wasn’t ... What do you say, is it needed? will her absence be strongly felt? I also look towards Gamma-Lepse and the Helper (and the Rotor has a plastic juicer at all).
Who has one with vegetable cutters - tell me, do you often use them? Or is it too dreary because of this to assemble and disassemble the meat grinder?
And is it possible to stuff sausage with an attachment from a screw juicer?
Please advise what is worth taking under the above conditions? I'm breaking my head ... I would be very grateful for any kick in the right direction.)))
vedmacck
Quote: Lanna
but still, it's Zelmeer, who cuts pencils
What's wrong with my Zelmer mixer? He even whips the hell out, and a glass blender is generally impossible to use! Because of the blender-leg, I had to wipe Strasbourg pate by hand, through a sieve, on New Year's. Was it me so "lucky" or do they only have high-quality meat grinders?
The vegetable cutter was still on the Soviet meat grinder, now on the Bosch combine - I tried it several times and that's it (from the Soviet one was enough, Boshik honestly tried to master it). But I know that many are actively using it.
Elena Bo
The Axion has a plate that can be inserted instead of the mesh on the auger juicer. Then it is used for stuffing sausages.
Lanna
Whoa! Who doesn't sleep at night ?! I thought I was one midnight when a new quirk climbs into my head)))
Thanks for the mesh, I understand. Elena, is there really a grill with oval holes in the kit? What is it for? For sausage? And do you use graters in it and a juicer?
Mila1
Girls and boys, I want to buy the Axion meat grinder (in addition to Kenwood), tell me which model is better to take. I will be very grateful. As I understand there are many of those who are satisfied with it.
Bes7vetrov
I chose, I chose a meat grinder for myself. I opted for Axion M32.02 ... But somehow it did not work out (although the player. Ru for it is a very nice price).
Yesterday I watched a promo video from Ourson about the MG2010 meat grinder and disappeared (more precisely, it disappeared after reading the characteristics on the official website).
I quickly looked through a well-known store for the availability of goods, saw the price

two times less than at the office. website

and ordered it without hesitation! We've already arrived today! red and white. It will look good next to HP Moulinex Uno.
Disassembled the box, went nuts from all sorts of gimmicks! photographed everything separately. Later, perhaps I will take a photo of the assembly.
This is my first meat grinder in general! Therefore, there is no limit to delight!
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And finally, "bahatstva"
Vegetable cutter in a separate box: 5 attachments - 2 for shredding, 2 for grating, and a special attachment for hard cheese.
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Three perforated discs, three sizes of sausage attachments, kubbe attachment. Metal meat receiver, reverse, recipe book beautiful ... Choosing an electric meat grinder
By the way! The kubba nozzle is not mentioned anywhere: Neither on the website, nor in the instructions. And she is)))
Elena Bo
Quote: Lanna
Elena, is there really a grill with oval holes in the kit? What is it for? For sausage? And do you use graters in it and a juicer?
Oh, just saw the question.
I simply use the grid with oval holes as a large grid, since I have never made sausage.
I use a juicer (screw).
I have not used graters yet.
And again I want about the fact that many write that it is noisy. I compared it with the sound from Panasonic, Zelmer and Philips. Mine is quieter and the sound is not so shrill-nasty.
Every time I am convinced of the correctness of the choice. The machine is a beast. No veins are an obstacle to her, everything grinds, does not spit. I am very pleased.
Mila1
Elena Bo, Helen, what model of Axion do you have? I just want to buy, but I don't know which model to take
Elena Bo
Axion M 32.02 it is full set. You can watch any of the 32 series, they have different equipment.
Mila1
Elena Bo, Helen, thank you!
tysia
Mila1, and then there is Axion 42.02, it has a capacity of 1700, there are shredders, a screw juicer, and a citrus juicer. They brought me one yesterday ... And she also has a protective casing so that she wouldn't spit on the walls ...

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