Sterilizing utensils for making yoghurt

And if I just wash them with soda - is this considered sterilization, or not?

And I'm in the dishwasher with temp. 65 degrees

and I do not like when they impose their point of view. here, thank God, people are adults, they know when they need advice ..
I also wash in the dishwasher ...

[azaza]

I don't understand: why bother with homemade yoghurts at all, if you are too lazy to sterilize the dishes?
The temperature for fermenting yogurt was not chosen by chance: it is at this temperature that bacteria grow best. The problem is that this temperature is ideal for growing not only the beneficial bacteria we need, but also harmful ones. If you do not sterilize the dishes, it is not known what you will grow instead of yogurt or at the same time as it. Maybe it will, or maybe it will. Maybe even worse will happen.

azaza I agree and support.
And as he says Mowglithat they impose their point of view here - I do not agree with that - just everyone expressed their opinion. I am for sterilizing jars and spoons - but I do not call on anyone or impose. If someone does not do that, it makes me neither cold nor hot, as they say. Everyone decides for himself.

If this

without sterilizing spoons, us you do not harm.

imposing my opinion, then I pass. I joined Lozie's statement and expressed my thoughts on the matter. Whether to take a risk about "blowing through" and if it does, then in what sense is an exclusively personal matter for each manufacturer of homemade yogurt.
And the sterilization temperature is from 100 * and above. The simplest and most affordable methods are boiling, steaming, and calcining.
That is, neither high-quality hand washing nor washing in the dishwasher will rid the dishes of germs. Some of them - yes, probably, but the strongest survive at this temperature.
Once again: to sterilize or not - everyone decides for himself. But then let's call the finished product depending on the method of preparation: either it is yogurt, or it is ... well, let's say, a milk dessert with figs knows what a surprise inside. This surprise can make itself felt immediately, a couple of hours after taking the product, it can give nothing at all, and it can accumulate inside for months or years, and then ...
However, I am not a microbiologist, and about the accumulation - just my assumptions. And for the rest of the special higher education is not required.

I personally pour boiling water over the jars and lids, then drain them. I wipe the spoon and thermometer with alcohol. It takes me an extra couple of minutes. Otherwise, I wouldn't bother with yogurt at all. I don’t need additional health problems, and so it’s enough .. nowhere to go ..
And then, I, nevertheless, got used to trust the opinion of professionals, if they say - it is necessary, I - listen.

If you will allow me to express my opinion as a professional microbiologist and practicing herbalist. Hygiene is important and necessary, but excessive sterility in everyday life leads to the fact that our immunity begins to be lazy and it is difficult for him to cope with infections in extreme situations. If every day he receives a small portion of harmful microbes, then he arrives in constant tone. So that everything should be in moderation. The total sterilization of maternity hospitals has led to the fact that staphylococcus has blossomed there, which is almost impossible to get rid of. And all because, with its variability, it was left without natural competitors.

[Summer resident]

Summer resident , thank you for your opinion! She herself did not dare to voice something in this spirit, but just life experience tells me exactly the same thoughts: it is not worth sterilizing and fighting various microbes unnecessarily. Observe cleanliness and hygiene, but the "vaccination" must also be!
I just noticed, for example, how my mother, when she retired, became ill. When you travel in transport every day during an epidemic, for example, of the flu, one way or another you "grab" some portion of the viruses. But you don't always get sick if you try to take precautions. And after retirement, my mother mostly sat at home, walked with her grandson in the woods, on the playground, and I did not particularly load her with shopping trips. And as soon as during the flu period she had to ride the subway on some business, she was guaranteed to fall ill.
Although, of course, I respect people who are serious about cleanliness.
Maybe I'm just lazier than them, and looking for an excuse for myself?

.... Hygiene is important and necessary, but excessive sterility in everyday life leads to the fact that our immunity begins to be lazy and it is difficult for him to cope with infections in extreme situations ...

Summer resident, respect!

I believe that the PMM mode with a temperature of 70 C is enough for everything! And 60 is enough!

Summer resident, respect!

I believe that the PMM mode with a temperature of 70 C is enough for everything! And 60 is enough!

I AM ALSO GLAD TO PUT ALL DOTS ABOVE I, FINALLY, after all, in fact, no one is against cleanliness ... but sterility to the point of extravagance is already too much

[me, Lara_ and azaza]

... but sterility is crazy too much

You call it extravagance to pour boiling water over the jars ?? As you please! Hence, me, Lara_ and azaza need to be treated, since we are so crazy.

Yeah, let's start calling names here. This is not a point, just another opinion, nothing more. I agree about the harmfulness of excessive sterility of the environment, but I did not quite understand what it has to do with cooking yogurt and scalding dishes for it.

We just do what the instructions for preparing live yogurt prescribe. I do not see anything in this "too much" sterile for life. I do not scald a cup with boiling water before pouring compote for myself. That would be that, that, but even if someone does, I have no right to hang labels on him.

Oh, girls, yes, I’m for 2 hands, well you already .. just everyone already agrees to disagree with their opinions .. and curtsy to everyone .. I am also for cleanliness, and ... since it is convenient to scald, - scald, who is against ... well, zhist she is already so hard to swear in absentia for jars .. and lids .. and in no case even thought to hang labels .. God forbid ..

Girls - don't take you all so personally
That death for one is good for another ... It is also because of this nonsense to take offense at each other

Girls - don't take you all so personally
That death for one is good for another ... It is also because of this nonsense to take offense at each other

A crook, friend, well, at least you understand !!!

Bringing to 60 degrees is called pasteurization. And pasteurized milk is used to make yogurt. So the dishwasher is fine. Although rinse with boiling water is faster.

[me, Lara_ and azaza]

You call it extravagance to pour boiling water over the jars ?? As you please! Hence, me, Lara_ and azaza need to be treated, since we are so crazy.

Oh, Irisha, it turns out that I'm not only third with the scales of Gorenie, but I will support you here and will be the fourth crazy after you, Lara_ and azaza. I also scald jars, lids, a tablespoon with boiling water, and the ladle in which the water for scalding boiled already means sterile, I pour ultra-pasteurized milk into it, in which I always cook + sourdough or half a jar of the previous yogurt, I heat it up to 36 degrees and further into the yogurt maker. All.
Yes! I do not scald the thermometer. I wipe it about once a month with alcohol (or vodka)

The word scalding bothers me a little in action, because it's easier to pour water into jars on the bottom of the water and put it in a micra to boil.
I boil a 1-liter glass bowl for milk in the same way and put a thermometer and a spoon into the boiling water from this bowl, which I will stir.
AND EVERYTHING - everything is sterile in 4-5 minutes and no special fuss

[as]

The word scalding bothers me a little in action, because it's easier to pour water into jars on the bottom of the water and put it in a micra to boil.
I boil a liter glass bowl for milk in the same way and already in boiling water from this bowl I put a thermometer and a spoon, which I will stir.
AND EVERYTHING - everything is sterile in 4-5 minutes and no special fuss

Yes, it does not matter - as to do this, the main argument here is whether it is necessary or not necessary at all.

[as]

Yes, it does not matter - as to do this, the main argument here is whether it is necessary or not necessary at all.

So I forgot to add:
I do it every other time!

I seem to be for sterility, but it suits me in such an average version

So I forgot to add:
I do it every other time!

Look, this is in essence. Yes, I already wrote in another topic that I pour boiling water over it, but I dry it all "poured" on a non-sterile towel in a non-sterile kitchen. So without any fanaticism. But to make the soul calmer, I use boiling water like "sterilizing".

what are you talking about?
sterilization is an hour in an autoclave at a temperature of 140C

OH GODS!!!! : sorry: as they said in Tyumen in the days of my youth: then, yes, because ...
For example, I wrote in Temka only because others told about everything as the ultimate truth ..
I also scald it, and keep it in the micr, and in the airfryer ... and when just after the dishwasher ...

Girls - don't take you all so personally
That death for one is good for another ... It is also because of this nonsense to take offense at each other

that's all ... as they say ... just one more opinion ... don't take it personally

I ask for advice. MV Brown. I will put yogurt for the first time. While on aktimeli. I decided in jars. Yesterday I bought cool glasses - straight, short, with a plump bottom and also cheap. I washed it, sterilized it in the CF. And here's the question - how to close it. Plastic lids from Pele or nestle coffee, those that are internal, are ideal, but not at all snug. Especially from someone begged. ideal for cans with condensed milk or other canned food.
Now I think - not for small children, but plastic. In MV, along with the jars - probably gnarled, dip in water for a while, where a whisk with a spoon is boiling?
Can you close such caps?
I'm not worried about the safety of the lids or yogurt, but from a medical point of view.

[Pichenka]

Pichenka
and MV Brown is a multi or slow cooker, and what is Brown already?
As for the lids, I think this way: if you put these glasses of yours in a bowl of water for even cooking, then so that condensate does not drip into the glasses, just cover each with an ordinary nylon lid (I mean Soviet lids for ordinary 0.5l, 1l cans) These lids will protect the yoghurt from condensation that may drip from the lid of the MB, and at the same time, these lids can be doused with boiling water.
And already when you put the glasses in the refrigerator, you can cover them with coffee lids or something else suitable, after having washed them well with hot water and soap.
This is what I think, although I do not insist on anything, including sterilization - everyone decides for himself.

Got it. That is, the cover is primarily a protection against condensation? and sterile possible?
Of course the cartoon "Brand". I can't get used to such a logo, I'm confused.

Got it. That is, the cover is primarily a protection against condensation? and sterile possible?
Of course the cartoon "Brand". I can't get used to such a logo, I'm confused.

sterile or not - it's up to you, otherwise we have disagreements on this
if I cook yogurt in a yogurt maker and, accordingly, do not cover the jars with lids, then when I put them in the refrigerator, I just close them with washed lids, I don’t douse them with boiling water
and if I close it in the cartoon and before cooking, then I pour boiling water over the lids (the jars in any case - even in a yogurt maker, even in a MV)
Yes, if you cook in a multi in a bowl of water, then the lids are protection against condensation

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I never sterilized the jars, pulled them out of the dishwasher and that's it.
I do it for the second year - every other day in a yogurt maker, with open jars, then I closed it in the refrigerator

When I was in the hospital, they said that bottles for milk formula are fried in the oven. I also put the jars for yogurt in the oven and turn it on for 200g. and "fry" for 10-20 minutes.

I already wrote that I melted the caps in the sterilizer for baby bottles on the very first day. I called the service center, so the caps cost 1t. R. I bought a yoghurt maker for the same amount
Girls who have extra caps - I will buy it by the piece inexpensively, suddenly someone's jar has broken and there is an extra cap. I will pay for the postage. I will transfer the money to the card. well suddenly ...

I also scald jars, lids, a tablespoon with boiling water, and the ladle in which the water for scalding boiled already means sterile, I pour ultra pasteurized milk into it, in which I always cook + sourdough, heat it up to 36 degrees and then into a yogurt maker ... All.

I join! I do exactly the same! And not because she is obsessed with sterility, but this is the technology of making yogurt at home. The taste of the original product may depend on this. We don't make yogurt.

And my 4 kopecks: I don't understand why to sterilize. I just take regular clean dishes and make yogurt. We are not in a hospital where staphyllicoks crawl and all sorts of other bad personalities.

and after the dishwasher I do not scald anything, there and so +70, everything is clean and good, but if we were talking about a small child, then I would definitely sterilize

I haven't read the whole thread, maybe it was already: I ​​brew beer at home, many brewers use a recipe for sterilizing dishes: 5-7 ml. iodine per 5 liters. water. We just rinse clean dishes with a solution, then you do not need to rinse. There is a lot of more detailed information about sterilization with iodine on the network.

[vlad1252]

vlad1252, thanks, interesting, I read it.
In general, sterilization in a children's sterilizer for microbes is also interesting - it's relevant to me, since the sterilizer is already there. I will try, I will report how I will "cook" the jars there, but not soon