Rituslya
Quote: fffuntic
Considering that users did not like standing
Lena, why? The topic, of course, is not about bread makers, but your opinion is very interesting. Thank you!
Sails, good road and wonderful rest, Lenochka!
fffuntic
Rita,

Well, standing has a double function: on the one hand, it evens out the temperature of the products, on the other, it always maintains the time of the regime strictly according to the table, so that the user can set the exact time for the bread to be ready by the timer.
But for an experienced baker, it would not have been difficult to load the food himself at normal temperatures. That is, you can speed up the preparation of bread.
But the most unpleasant thing. Let's say you need to knead the dough, well, if, for example, water is poured. You start to report flour, and then the batch is over. And again you can only start with standing.
Sometimes it is completely out of place.
And in the summer with a short summer mode? there it stupidly drags on. Standing for 2 hours will infuriate anyone. And when are two or three loaves baked a day?

As for me personally, according to FIG. I have been using Panasik for so long that I have completely adapted, and I do not need a few pastries a day. I sometimes let this stand for pre-mixing)))), koloboks have been tracked for a long time)))) And where there is a need for manual control: on rye bread, standing the weather does not.

Rituslya
fffuntic, Helen, thank you! In fact, it is so very informative and interesting.
But this lack of standing is not particularly important to me either, because I am not a baker at all.
For me, Panasik is a good and easy-going dough mixer.
And I also want to buy this Breeze more not for baking, but more for multicooking. What if the ideal? ...
Sails
No, Rita, not ideal. You also need to adapt to it.
Rituslya
Sails, Helen, oops ...
And what doesn't suit you? Well ... Not that it didn't suit me specifically, but I would like it better.
fffuntic
Well, I like multi with multishef, that is, temperature control.
But the breeze here is rather weak, there is only one adjustment, I would like to be able to program several stages. That is, put the porridge: boiling at 100, then "boiling" at 90, then languishing at 60)))), then disconnect, well, something like that, for example. The brizka will have to change the settings with the pens at each stage.
But multi-chef is a nice thing. Although for the ideal, you would also need to adjust the heating rate, that is, the heating intensity. For tender casseroles, for example, this is important.
Therefore, a cartoon with a chef is a necessary thing in the household. But it may still fall short of the ideal.
.. bucket coating, build quality ... heat uniformity ...
Sails
fffuntic, Lena, yes, that's the way it is. And I, personally, got used to induction multicooker pressure cookers. Therefore, cooking seems a bit long to me. But a big plus is that there is a manual setting, because in many cartoons there are only programs.
Rituslya
Friends, can you add temperature and time in the process of just cooking?
If so, what is the step?
Fully programmable? Yes, I also think so that they are especially far from ideal.

But the master chef is still a cool thing.

fffuntic
Look. I set the temperature to 100 g, the time to 10 minutes and pressed start. went to work cartoon. After five minutes, you decided to change the temperature 90 degrees. You press Stop, you change the temperature and time, and you press the start. That is, Stop - new settings - start.
ladnomarina
Quote: fffuntic
Therefore, a cartoon with a chef is a necessary thing in the household. But it may still fall short of the ideal.
You say the truth...I also did not find a multi normal with a custom mode. Martha has 4315,16,17, I saw somewhere else. But again, Marta overestimates the temperature, the quality is not very good. Another, I don't remember, looked, there is no way to change during cooking.
velli
I do not agree with the previous statements! I have Martha-4324 and I put her first in terms of ease of use. (y) During cooking, you can change the temperature at least one hundred times without turning off the mode. (y) Press the button with the temperature icon and use the (+) and (-) buttons to set the temperature. The temperature changes by 1 * as well as the time by 1 minute. There is no such thing in any m / in! Press Start and everything will work as you put it. On any program.! Made soundly, beautiful, large numbers on the scoreboard. The temperature is kept according to the chosen one, (y) tested especially as bought.
fffuntic
I was looking for a cartoon with a multishef, but a budget one.

I went through three identical polaris models until I found a normal one. That is, two copies behaved as they wanted, and the third keeps everything as expected.
So how lucky you are with the purchase. individually. possibly with March as well.





By the way, I'm just planning to go to the section with the help of the choice of buying multi. We need such an unkillable one, for a man who most likely will be poking around in a bucket with a fork. And handling the stove is far from gentle. Simple, he won't program either.
Cartoon man to leave. So that he could cook porridge for himself and fry a cutlet, but he can handle a cartoon brutally.
Interestingly, such a problem is being solved?

Sedne
fffuntic, Lena, and I have friendship with the Polaris, I have 2 of them, it's a miracle, their problem is in something else, as a bowl, that's the only minus to them, you have to look for another bowl right away.
Sails
Sedne, Svetlana, what kind of Polaris do you have? I wanted one time, but I never decided which one.
ladnomarina
Quote: velli
I have Martha-4324 and
Happy for you. It's good that everything suits, and the choice of temperature and time in the process is good. In Redmont, you can change the temperature in the process from your smartphone, but as I understand it, you need to choose a recipe. I wanted to buy 4316, but the reviews are conflicting. A friend of mine in 1980, after 3 months, felt sick to stick to the bowl. Today I read about multi for half a day. Interestingly, they are not popular in Europe. We do not have Korean, only Chinese
velli
today in my Brizka I will try to bake bread for Quick bread. I was interested in one recipe for quick bread in a bread maker of one forum member. While reading this recipe, the thought arose: "Will my Brizka be able to bake such bread or something like that?" Brizka has her own recipe for Quick Bread, so I'm thinking about which oven to cook according to my own, or according to the one presented. How to bake I will share, maybe I will take a photo, if the experiment is successful.
Sedne
valentine, I don't like the fast mode in bread makers.
velli
Here I baked it, but did not cut it or taste it. I still did it according to my own recipe with minor changes. Sugar 3 tbsp. l instead of 4x (too much), 2h .. l salt + 3h. l sour cream + 2 hours. l dry others + 340 ml. warm water for 500g. flour.Multicooker MX11 "Breeze" with the function of a bread machine and a kneader




As it cools down, I will show the cut the most interesting.




I liked the taste with a slight sourness due to apparently sour cream, fluffy. I did not expect that it will turn out like this. I thought it would be like a fresh cake, but it turned out to be delicious. In any case, it will be as a backup recipe just in case there is no bread. I bet Brizka for this bread 5+Multicooker MX11 "Breeze" with the function of a bread machine and a kneader




Black blotches of this dry herb sprinkled a small pinch when the signal for adding ingredients sounded during kneading. They added their own flavor to the taste!
Sails
Valentine, great bread!
Marpl
Valentine, and salt probably needs 2 tsp instead of 2 tablespoons. This recipe is similar to mine, but I bake in Panasonic or Gemlux - 500g flour (+ - 25g, depending on the flour), 2 tbsp sugar, 2 tsp salt, 1.5 tsp dry yeast, 2 tbsp vegetable oil and 330g liquid (1 egg + milk + water = 330g).
velli
MarinaOf course 2 teaspoons, fixed thanks! I baked according to such a recipe (like yours) in Panasonic on the Main district. In Brizka I still bake according to her recipes, I have not tried all the breads yet.
kartinka
Girls, my bread maker caught fire, now it took me to lose weight, the process is underway, bread has just begun to be added to the diet. And what is interesting, now, after 2 months of the forced diet, my taste has become completely different. Why, I took a piece of bread, which we usually buy, and I can't eat it. He has some kind of chemical taste. I didn't understand, I bought another, also from the usual ones, the same thing. So I thought about hp. Asked in the branch, said only Panasonic. And then I look, it seems like there is a Panasonic, and they bake in the breeze. Please tell me why, what's the difference? I watched Breeze from the factory, the price, taking into account the delivery, is comparable to a cheap Panasonic, which is simple without a dispenser. Panasonic is very much praised, and I have never tried bread from hp, although I myself baked in mv, but it's already hard to knead, so I decided to ask here, so that I would not regret the topic later, I am interested in a comparison of who has both units. In Panasonic, it still attracts reliability. The functions seem to be the same. ... although I need HP not so much for white bread, I will make it in half with rye and grade 2, we eat mostly black and multi-grain.
Marpl
Panasonic is Panasonic and that says it all. Today I looked at the checks, and my HP is already 11 years old, and was actively used all the time, sometimes 2 times a day, everything works, but during this time the bucket would change, but its price stops. Therefore, I bought the shares of HP Gemlux 775 for 2.5 tons. R. and I bake in it now. While everything suits, it is no worse than Panasonic, it would be good that it does not break and also works for a long time. And as for the fact that now everyone bakes in Brizka, there are a lot of lovers of new technology. I had a CF with the HP function - Binaton. I took it to bake black bread in parallel with Panasonic. As MV never used it, she only baked black bread, it was round there too. And after 4 months she began to give errors, so she was successfully passed. And now I will never buy 2v 1. Let the 2s be better - separately MV, and separately HP. If possible, then buy Panasonic, even without a dispenser.
kartinka
Marpl, Marinochka, thank you, I am breaking my head, but probably it would be better to have a Panasonic, I’ll look at what could be cheaper. Thanks again
velli
And I have my own opinion on this matter. Firstly, the models of multicooker / bread makers are different Binaton and Breeze-11. nothing in common. Secondly, the bread in Panasonic and Breeze is different in taste and crumb structure if baked according to the same recipe. I like the taste more in Breeze, the top crust turns out to be the same in color and hardness. In Panasonic, the top is somehow paler and thinner than the sides. I often use a multicooker, convenient control of the temperature and time is set at will by the Multicook. Two in one for me a godsend, if something happens to her I will buy a replacement for the same no matter how much it costs, and even if it will not be sold in Moscow, I will order from the factory. The same multi-cooker-bread maker was ordered by my neighbor-friend while she is satisfied with everything at work and the slow cooker and the bread maker.
kartinka
velli, Valentina, thanks for your answer. In the morning I think, I want Panas, in the evening, I want a breeze, and vice versa, first I will look in the stores of the Panasonic model, which is available from an inexpensive one, and, probably, I need to stop and cool down. while the choice of the two is already easier. Thanks again
Sedne
kartinka, I advise you to take Panasonic, I like it better, the breeze is also nothing, but Panasonic is better.
Rituslya
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ladnomarina
Well, they began to sell. The day before yesterday in Mvideo for a stock for 4990, I took a redica 903s. It smelled for 2 days, now it seems to have disappeared, it gives off a little from the outer casing. It has plastic walls inside! Fuck!
velli
ladnomarina, is it a slow cooker or a bread maker?Sedne, Svetlana, and what Panasonic is better than Breeze-11. To be honest, judging by the photos of Panasonic users of the breads they baked, I was not particularly impressed. The shape is some kind of strange, you will not immediately understand what a loaf of roofing felts looks like, a stone or a chock. Another thing is ordinary Panasonic with normal beautiful loaves. And Breeze-11 knows how to bake delicious and beautiful bread, and I am very pleased that I bought this wonderful machine. For me she will cook borscht, and bake bread and cook compote (in an additional purchased bowl).But as they say: To each his own! let users not be offended and bake their bread in the new Panasonic.
Sedne
Quote: velli
and why is Panasonic better than Breeze-11
To me bread from Panasonic tastes better.
Marpl
Only time will judge better. I also previously purchased Binaton MV-HP in order to bake bread in tandem with HP Panasonic. So Binaton worked for only 4 months and ordered to live a long time, while I never used MV. And HP Panasonic has been plowing for 11 years.
Lapochka
Girls, please tell me if there is in the breeze manual mode exactly at multicooker? Can I, for example, cook porridge by setting my time and temperature (full setting)?
Lapochka
fffuntic, Lena, can you tell me? And then no one looks into the topic. I can't understand about manual mode in Breeze (previous comment). Is it possible, after all, to set completely your settings to the proposed modes?
Mandraik Ludmila
Lapochka, since April last year, unfortunately, Lena has not been to the forum. Ask the owners, I don't have such a stove, I can't help you.
Amazonka
Hello everyone! Girls, owners of Brizka, please tell me, is it possible to turn off the sound signal at the delayed start so that it does not beep endlessly?
YaRoslavtseva
Hello. Became the owner of Brizik. Tell me, can a stainless steel bowl be in this cartoon? I can’t overpower myself to cook the soup in a non-stick bowl. There are no complaints about the function of the bread machine. For many years she baked 2500 in Panas. I had to give it to the village. The quality of the bread in the breeze is good.
Amazonka
YaRoslavtseva, Anastasia,
Quote: YaRoslavtseva
a stainless steel bowl can be in this cartoon?
If it fits in size, I think you can, because in other cartoons we use
Quote: YaRoslavtseva
Bread quality in brizik is good
Here's how the bread maker, I also really liked Brizka, but as a multicooker, it's a complete disappointment, it boils so much that the liquid boils away very quickly, you need to control it all the time and this is in most modes, either I have a marriage, or that's how she is set up
YaRoslavtseva
I bought a stainless steel bowl from redmond. But it boils longer with it. And about the seething, my nifiga does not boil even in my own bowl. I cook soups in manual mode. Not less than 140 gr.
Amazonka
Quote: YaRoslavtseva
nifiga does not boil
So I still have a marriage
Olga Alekseeva
Quote: fffuntic

Yes Galya asks not to sing praises to the brizka, but to indicate specific possibilities for programming the machine: how to regulate the temperature and set the time (what possibilities for temperature-time are available).
There is no whole instruction in the internet.

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YaRoslavtseva
Quote: Amazonka
boils so much that the liquid boils away very quickly
Today I encountered this on the pilaf mode. It was boiling so that she passed out on the 15th minute of the program. I'm shocked. The soup does not boil, but the pilaf boils as if at 180 degrees. I will test further.
Amazonka
Quote: YaRoslavtseva
I will test further.
YaRoslavtseva, Anastasia, and today I decided to boil eggs on the Pasta program, I set the time for 10 minutes, I thought that, like in all multicooker, after boiling, a sound signal would be heard and the countdown would start, but nothing like that happened after the water boiled, I noticed it well on the clock, in general solid disappointments for now, I'll try now to start the dumplings mode for fun




Quote: YaRoslavtseva
on the pilaf mode. It boiled so
the same story
Amazonka
I tested the Pelmeni mode, the same nonsense as with the Pasta mode, the water is boiling, but there is no sound signal for bookmarking food, there is no countdown, I specially waited, I thought maybe she would at least turn off herself, but it was not there, almost all the water was taken away and I turned it off, wrote to Axion and this is what they answered me:
yesterday at 11:50 pm
Hello! Please write how the Pelmeni and Pasta programs should work in your multicooker? I have neither a sound signal for bookmarking food, nor a countdown, that is, the water will boil until it is turned off.

Household appliances Axion, today at 9:12
Good morning!

Household appliances Axion, today at 9:14
These programs work in this way, we recommend simply using the 120 degree frying program, set the time as desired. When the water boils, the multicooker will beep
In general, complete nonsense, then the meaning of these automatic programs, if you constantly need to arrange dances with tambourines.
Girls who have such a slow cooker, please respond, it also works for you, you need to know this marriage and make claims or they really all work like that
YaRoslavtseva
I tested the dumplings mode, with the lid closed, the water boiled and a single "peak" sounded
Amazonka
Quote: YaRoslavtseva
I tested the dumplings mode, with the lid closed, the water boiled and a single "peak" sounded
Anastasia, and the countdown was?
YaRoslavtseva
Amazonka, yes, after the peak it went backwards. 5 minutes by default, did not add my own.
Amazonka
Quote: YaRoslavtseva
did not add her own.
Anastasia, I added, I'll try today at the preset time. Thank you for your answer!




Nifiga does not work for me, no signal, no time counting. Now I need to somehow check all the other modes. Maybe pilaf needs to add more water on the program, since it boils so much?
Anastasia, and where did you buy yours? I took from the factory at a discount, delivery by Russian mail, if I send it back, then I can also only by mail, unless, of course, only these two modes do not work for me, and the rest will be normal, then I will not send, but if the others are the same then of course I will send it to them, if not difficult, please write to me when you cook on your own in different modes, so that I at least know how they work
YaRoslavtseva
Amazonka, I live in Khabarovsk, here I took it from a hardware store. For 5699. By mode: does not cook soup at all. Let's say I watch a video of borscht in a slow cooker "throw everything and wait 2 hours" ..... does not cook. Everything is raw. The pilaf mode is boiling and then screaming like a victim. Not happy with both. The baking mode tried charlotte, baked fish in foil, baked pumpkin with honey - everything was fine. The yogurt mode is good from 2 liters of milk, I did it per liter - it was over-fermented, so I will put it in jars. The steam mode is excellent, in the frying mode it also fries everything normally (frying), I have not tried to fry something like meat / fish until cooked. I also liked the warm up mode. I have not cooked milk porridge yet. In general, while we have found a common language with her only half. There are no complaints about a bread maker.




Quote: Amazonka
Macaroni mode
And here is something incredible. Water cannot boil as soon as steam appears, the multicooker yells and goes into 00 mode. The lid is open. Boils on dumplings as it should. Riddle .......




Quote: YaRoslavtseva
Riddle
The puzzle has been solved. With a non-native bowl (stainless steel from redmond) gives an error. Everything works great with the native.
Amazonka
YaRoslavtseva, Anastasia, thanks for such a detailed answer, as for a bread maker, I also have no complaints, but how I can’t get used to a multicooker yet, since there are other multicooker, and I planned to take this one to the dacha, but I need it exactly that I turned it on and left with my own business, but with this one it won't work, my soup boils like a victim and most of the broth boils away, with pilaf the same nonsense as yours, pasta and dumplings don't work at all, just water boils and that's it, frying works fine too , I will test others, if the rest work well, then I will leave it, and if the others do not work well, then I will send them back. and the girls who have it in the subject here do not want to talk about their

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