Silly questions

My groats, of course. Where they were / were stored before they got into the package is unknown.
Dust, fuuuu. Be sure to wash, and eat by yourself.

Meat, fish, be sure to wash for the same reasons. Even more thorough.
In life, I will not put something that has not been washed in a saucepan. I just do not understand how it is, do not wash.

Not so long ago, there was some kind of program on TV, and they told me how harmful it is to wash meat, especially chicken, like after that your salmonella will fly all over the kitchen ... Well, then I was sooo surprised - how so? Yes, I'd rather rip out everything that is possible later, but I simply cannot cook unwashed meat.
And cereals too.

[Artem Sergeev, chef at Mercedes Bar]

quotes from the newspaper article "Arguments and Facts"
Artem Sergeev, chef at Mercedes Bar believes that any poultry, turkey, goose, chicken must be washed before cooking: “In any case, the products we get from retail outlets cannot be perfectly clean. It is necessary to wash the bird with running cold water: it washes away microorganisms, possible dirt. If you are particularly scrupulous, you can rinse the bird in a 1% water solution of vinegar - pour water into the sink and add a drop of vinegar. "
Andrey Zavarnitsin, chef at Meatless restaurant recommends using a saline solution to disinfect the chicken: “You need to dissolve 50 g of salt in 1 liter of water and lower the bird there for 15-20 minutes. Then rinse thoroughly under running water. "
If the meat is bought in packaging and even more so if you are sure of the manufacturer - it should be so perfectly clean (funny to read), - said Pavel Galkovsky, Chef of the T-Bon Wine restaurant. - Sometimes during transportation or storage, the temperature regime may be violated, and the meat secretes juice. If this happens, it is enough to wipe the meat with a damp cloth. If you bought a product on the market and are not sure of its quality, it is better to rinse it. "
further in this article, chefs advise even washed peeled nuts dust ...

Galya, my husband still longingly remembers gray pasta ..

Sister, mine also raves about them, but whole grains seem to go.

[The question arose - where and when did I give, in your opinion, harmful advice?]

Galya, forgive me - but sometimes I am amazed at your ideas and advice of the chef, but you offer them to all honest people I would not dare to give such advice on the culinary forum

I am unable to continue our important conversation at the moment.
The question arose - where and when did I give, in your opinion, harmful advice? Beg. What if someone writes nonsense on my behalf while I sleep? Or is it, nevertheless, only in your opinion my advice is wrong?
Here I wrote about specific cereals, about modern meat and fish, about common sense. Where did you see sedition? Do you wash vacuum-packed salad too?
In the rules of the forum it is written about the prohibition of the transition to personalities. Why do you violate them?

[dog gray]

dog gray, sorry, but I'm with Roma I agree 100%

My ex-husband used to say: The more dirt, the thicker the muzzle. But this is a lyrical digression. Personally, I also wash meat and fish (for almost the same reason - it is not clear where it was all lying around before packing and with what hands it was taken (maybe unwashed after using the toilet) and almost all the cereals. Sometimes when washing cereals in a bowl, this GRAY water Why do I have this dirt, it is not clear.

[dog gray]

dog gray, Galya, hmm .. how not to wash the food before cooking, raw poultry meat is good food for pathogenic microorganisms and nuts, seeds, especially peeled, must be washed - who and how * gnawed * them?
I just don't wash hercules, for me it is akin to semolina and flour, and at least rinse the rest of the cereals, but you need to

meat and poultry, so that * salmonella does not scatter in the kitchen * - and this is a very real process - mine in a basin in running water

cats-dogs also my meat and poultry, although I feed it raw, but we don't need shop dust

I went and looked at the norms of SanPiN

14.14. Before opening, the consumer package of canned food is washed with running water and wiped off.

and I remembered that I also wash my tin cans from the side that opens. They are also dusty ...

and my tin cans on the side that opens.

Necessarily!
And the bags are soft with milk. Lying around in the store anywhere.
And cans can also be found in lubricating oil.

How can I imagine that this whole zoo climbs into an open gap, hair on end)))))

[Roma]

sorry, but I'm with Roma I agree 100%

And I won't even apologize. FROM Roma I agree 100%.
I also always wash meat and cereals. I also wash my hands!

I just can't imagine someone not washing hands before eating food before cooking. Maybe, gray dog just decided to be so funny ...

I sort of all the cereals and mine, despite the fact that I buy in transparent sealed bags and carefully choose so that there are no foreign impurities. Millet tends to turn rancid quickly, so it must be washed with hot water, rolled oats very quickly draws moisture from the air, so it is dried before cooking, like boiled buckwheat, then there is no such specific taste, and all porridge is poured with cold water. I have read such advice for a long time in various cookbooks and I always cook, following these rules, so my porridge is eaten by all the naughty ones

[low temperature]

Do you wash vacuum-packed salad too?

And this method of cooking unwashed meat in a vacuum is 1000 times more dangerous! Since cooking sous vide means low temperature cooking mode for food and especially chicken. In the broth when cooking chicken, at least the dirt goes into the water. And in a vacuum, without water in the bag, all the dirt and microbes that have not been washed off penetrate deeper into the meat
Chicken and pork are cooked until the meat is fully cooked About salting and drying meat. What to believe and what to fear! # 3

About salting and drying meat. What to believe and what to fear!

And the cooks know a simple truth: I worked with raw chicken and pork, wash my hands thoroughly with soap and a cutting board, it's even better to change it to another and only then start processing other products.
Including raw vegetables, fruits, greens - sanpin doctors recommend washing them before cooking, including even simple greens (lettuce, dill, parsley, green onions), wash first in a bowl in a large amount of water, rinse and rinse clean water. Since it is in the folds of greenery that "spider-worms" can be found, because greens grow directly on the ground and are actively fertilized. Look closely at the bunch of cilantro, it is always in the remains of the earth, and is never washed before selling.

Galya, I will not enter into an argument

Today there are so many diseases that imperceptibly penetrate the human body, and sit there all our lives and spoil our health, but we look for and do not find the causes of diseases

It's easier now. Different rice for different dishes. Business then!

and in the * dark * Soviet times, rice was harder and less firm, for milk porridge and for side dishes and pilaf

but now it's * easier * for those who can buy different rice, and who can not - or there is no such variety at all in places of residence or the wallet is not fat

[dog gray]

Girls, why are you on dog gray attacked? The man wrote that they were taught that way. We do everything the way we were taught, either by our parents or by school. institution, whether books or media. Literature taught me as a child that cereals should be put in hot water, so I have been doing all my life. And so I teach others. ASong* Anya does quite the opposite, and teaches others too, because she was taught that way.
And the argument why cereals in boiling water was needed was this: the starch on the surface of the cereal is immediately cooked, and does not spread out in the water. As a result, the porridge does not burn. For the same reason, it was not recommended to interfere with the porridge during the cooking process. This is how I was taught.

[Tusya Tasya]

Tusya Tasya, are you talking about hand washing? So this is me, I boasted ...

Tatyana, do you bake bread? There are bread recipes based on pure whole grain.

I bake, but very rarely, we eat little bread.

[tati-ana]

Tusya Tasya, are you talking about washing your hands?

Anh, sorry, not about washing, but about cereals. tati-ana, what

and all porridge is poured with cold water.

, and clicked on your nickname. Don't be mad, okay?

About a month ago there was another program about the quality of meat. I don’t remember which channel. The chef of a restaurant, while preparing a dish, said: meat should be washed only when it looks dirty, for example, in a chip after a chopping stump. Since water does not wash away microbes, it is you who carry them around the kitchen with water and spray.

I also wash my hands!

Do not generalize and attribute these nonsense to me. Even funny about it ... you know the chef's code? When it is possible to move from shop to shop (from hot to cold), only after changing the workwear. Is it about hygiene?

Quote: The dog is gray from Today at 07:05 am
Do you wash vacuum-packed salad too?

And this method of cooking unwashed meat in a vacuum is 1000 times more dangerous! Since the preparation of sous vide involves a low-temperature cooking mode for food and especially chicken.

It was about vegetable salad, the company produces - washed and dry leaves.

Galya, I will not enter into an argument

I think so too. People very often disagree on the little things because of a simple misunderstanding - they read something inattentively, for example! I myself am a hurry.

In general, let's not offend each other - life is not an easy thing anyway.

Since water does not wash away microbes, it is you who carry them around the kitchen with water and spray.

do not wash under the tap, rinse meat and poultry in a basin, and no splashes in the kitchen

and only bought wearable things are advised to freshen up, although everything is now packed, but here we argue about food - to wash or not wash it is strange

well, who wants not washed, who is washed is the master's business, only it is better then homemade, from their pens, to eat

There are all sorts of racks in front of the checkout shops with all kinds of "mom-urgent-buy-me-this" bullshit. Once I saw a merchandiser (a kind of abusive word) reported a new portion of something Skittles. For some reason, my aunt threw these bags out of the box on the floor, and from the floor she began to put them on the shelves neatly. It was March! Imagine what gender! And these candies are eaten by children, and those in strollers also lick the bags from all sides ...
After this spectacle, I developed a conditioned reflex: I ALWAYS now wash my packaging from the store, and after that I shove it in refrigerators and cabinets, and if there is a thread of a product in a bag, then I transfer it to my bag, and I throw it away from the store. I understand that this is insanity, but I cannot overcome myself, as I imagine that the loader went to the toilet and did not wash his hands afterwards, and then went to lay out bread / milk on the shelves ... so I feel bad right away ...

[Tatyana]

Tatyana, cooked your snotty porridge?

ahh, I saw - cooked

HAPPENED!!!

YES !!!
Silly questions
And so I liked everything yesterday, which I repeated today! She asked the eldest: "Well, how?", Hoping to squeeze praise out of her. And she replied that they are constantly given such porridge at school ...

It was about vegetable salad, the company produces - washed and dry leaves

I began to wash such salads (and, by the way, they are not dry at all, but very wet) after the transmission on channel 1, even if they say: No need to wash. It said that E. coli can multiply there, because they can not wash such leaves very well.And the girl was shown who poisoned herself with a salad from such an allegedly washed package. Since then, mine, too, although nothing like this has happened to me.

For some reason, my aunt threw these bags out of the box on the floor, and from the floor she began to put them neatly on the shelves. It was March! Imagine what gender! And these candies are eaten by children, and those in strollers also lick the bags from all sides ...

I'm shocked

Regarding flying microbes))) I wonder if they take wings from chickens?
Cooks, after all, it is better to do their job)))
I couldn't even think of such a thing)))

In life, I will not put something that has not been washed in a pot. I just do not understand how it is, do not wash.

Well, never put dirty seeded meat in a cooking pot

here i am all washing for the same reasons

Several years ago I was visiting a friend in the Kursk region. The abundance of meat and prices was amazed. So she taught us how to make a sous brisket from the underneath. She told us that the meat before cooking should be soaked for at least 20 minutes. The girl kept her cattle, and said that before slaughter she was frightened, and this was not good. It is better to soak the meat for about 15 minutes, the negative will be removed. Maybe it's nonsense, but I always try to wash and wet the meat for about 20 minutes.

[Tatyana]

Tatyana, our friend explained to us the same that when slaughtered animals produce fear hormones adrenaline and cortisol, they decompose over time, so it is better not to eat very fresh fresh meat, preferably from 3 days after slaughter, also decomposition freezing also contributes to these hormones. I didn’t look for confirmations in the internet, I believe our friend, he is well versed in meat, so “for what I bought, I sold for that”

Regarding flying microbes))) I wonder if they take wings from chickens?
I couldn't even think of such a thing)))

Irish, alas! It is not the cooks' fault, they only follow the doctors (mostly, not ours) say so.

Not as a holivar - here are some links 🔗
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🔗 And the sea is spilled with such information, but you need to approach any information carefully and critically: common sense and our life experience says that you need to wash (thoroughly!) Everything - food, table, hands ... And everything will be all right.

[Buttercup]

Buttercup, I also did not look for confirmation. But I believed it and try to stick to it.

[Tancha]

Tancha, I agree completely

Common sense and our life experience says that everything should be washed (thoroughly!) - food, table, hands ... And everything will be all right.

That's for sure, Natasha!

[Common sense tells you to wash the dirty. And clean - do not wash.]

Quote from: grinaty on 22 June 2017, 18:45
Common sense and our life experience says that everything should be washed (thoroughly!) - food, table, hands ... And everything will be all right.
That's for sure, Natasha!

Common sense tells you to wash the dirty. And clean - do not wash.

Always wash my balls. Tin cans and bottles. I critically examine the container even when buying.

Not my ... milk, butter, sour cream. Bread, sweets and cakes. Cheese, sausage and sausages. Not my meat and fish. If they do not require it, they were sold in their original packaging and were completely (fish) gutted and cleaned. My (I already forgot when I came across this) meat, which came to me from the market from an unknown manufacturer, is not known how it was stored. But if it has mucus and dirt, forgive me, I would throw it away. But I don't buy that.

Thoroughly wash all vegetables and fruits. Fruit - to wash off the paraffin-like film from the skin. Potatoes from the ground. Even if it boils and all bacteria and others like them die. Mine to extract its true taste, not the taste of the soil in which it was grown.

Can I not write about personal hygiene? I undergo medical examinations regularly. So ... you can't wait
Maybe enough about that?

A question. M. B., and do something similar with cereals to extend the shelf life?

They do it, but they won't show it on TV ... it's called gassing of granaries.
In the room where grain products (cereals, flour) are stored, when pests are detected, gas is launched for a couple of days, which kills all living things - insects, mice. Then the smell disappears and the goods are sent for packaging and sale. This is so, the explanation is simple.

[Artem Sergeev, chef at Mercedes Bar]

quotes from the newspaper article "Arguments and Facts"
Artem Sergeev, chef at Mercedes Bar believes that any poultry, turkey, goose, chicken must be washed before cooking: “In any case, the products we get from retail outlets cannot be perfectly clean. It is necessary to wash the bird with running cold water: it washes away microorganisms, possible dirt. If you are particularly scrupulous, you can rinse the bird in a 1% water solution of vinegar - pour water into the sink and add a drop of vinegar. "
Andrey Zavarnitsin, chef at Meatless restaurant recommends using a saline solution to disinfect the chicken: “You need to dissolve 50 g of salt in 1 liter of water and lower the bird there for 15-20 minutes. Then rinse thoroughly under running water. "
If the meat is bought in packaging and even more so if you are sure of the manufacturer - it should be so perfectly clean (funny to read), - said Pavel Galkovsky, Chef of the T-Bon Wine restaurant. - Sometimes during transportation or storage, the temperature regime may be violated, and the meat secretes juice. If this happens, it is enough to wipe the meat with a damp cloth. If you bought a product on the market and are not sure of its quality, it is better to rinse it. "
further in this article, chefs advise even washed peeled nuts from dust ..

In magazines it is good, but in life ... In Soviet times, yes, the SanPin was followed very strictly, my mother worked, although I was little, but I remember how my mother told me.
I work in a restaurant and entered the kitchen of another cafe, plus I worked in a large hotel, I also went into the kitchen ... It seems that all the chefs now have the same approach as Gali's. Meat, both in vacuum bags and from half carcasses, is not washed, cereals, lettuce too. From the fish I saw only that the sterlet was washed, more it was brought alive. But there is no salmon ... Frozen pollock, of course - no. Frozen chicken too ... Vegetables, however, are washed. The boards are not signed, everything is on the conscience of the dishwasher, whether she treats it with bleach or not. The cooks work without caps, there is no talk about changing overalls when moving from shop to shop. I have never seen soap on the sinks in the shops! Dishwashers, as a rule, and cleaners (here he washes the dishes, here he cleans the toilets or the floors). Again, on the conscience of the dishwasher, she will wash her hands with soap when washing dishes ...
For myself, I concluded that when I break out of this sphere, I will not eat anything in such institutions!
About wash or not wash ... Wash !!! Who doubts there is SanPin on the Internet ...

Galya, she did not become personal, it is written in general ...

Yes, even at home I have different boards for different products. The neighbor I’m visiting has only a worn-out plywood board. One for everything. I have no offense - what if I was misunderstood?

Poppy with a roll. Today in Montenegro we bought such a bun. My life won't be the same

M.B., Does anyone have a recipe for a similar bun?

[Tatyana]

Tatyana, ask in the topic "I'm looking for a recipe on our forum", I'm just interested in the same thing ... how much poppy is needed in such a bun

Girls, did anyone cook from colored flour, black, red (or pink), green and yellow are now on sale?

then where, what are you doing with it?

and I add pork skin when cooking jellied meat. Jellied meat freezes very well with it.

I have such a question, maybe someone knows, someone saw. We need a thermos with a glass flask and a WIDE neck. We went around all the shops. If with a wide neck, then a metal flask, if a glass flask, then a narrow neck (

We need a thermos with a glass flask and a WIDE neck. We went around all the shops. If with a wide neck, then a metal flask, if a glass flask, then a narrow neck (

I have this kind of Chinese, bought many, many years ago. I don't know if they are released yet or not. I do not use it, because the layer has collapsed. int. cap.

sent the link in a personal

Buttercup, thank you friend! What you need. Moreover, I saw them, but I did not even suspect that they were with a glass flask

Is there a sorbet bowl?

The hand blender works great too ...

The hand blender works great too ...

Yes, but we need thirst for the geese - the goose-bird, for the ducklings - the duck-bird, for the blackbirds - the black-bird. If anything, not my pearl, tore it off here.

The help of the collective mind is required.
There is a pressure cooker Moulinex CE 501132

And I like everything about her, BUT recently something began to burn in her.
Something appeared at the bottom, which does not look like damage to the allegedly ceramic coating.

Boiled water with soda and citric acid, it did not help, although all other types of carbon deposits in other vessels with such a composition leave perfectly.
This something is in the recesses ... What to do? Any ideas?

[Ninelle]

Ninelle, there is no sorbet, it's a shame to admit it. The hand blender is: girl_claping
kavmins, I have only persimmon - not enough for the filling. I wanted to eat her alive ... ...

[Zebra]

Zebra, I treated such indelible dirt with a 15-minute soak in the Babyline baby product. There is a convenient spray and cleans everything, well, literally everything! I loved him dearly.
Now I'll find the picture, insert it.

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